/lit/ - Literature

I don’t really agree with that I don’t think anyone with a brain thinks Bach or Shakespeare are shitty. Most non retards appreciate traditional art forms and newer forms as well, with retards hating one or the other

>>22032013
>t.

>>22032013
Dunning-Kruger effect. You are retarded so you think you have nothing to learn from previous generations.

>>22032019
I'm talking about folk music and folk tales. Food like Surstromming. The Scottish aristocrats wearing kilts and playing bagpipes.

>>22032033
There's a handful of geniuses but that's high culture -- not tradition. Tradition is what the peasantry and decadent sages/prophets passed down.

>>22032045
>being this oblivious of the perversion of the church and the states that "freed themselves" of its influence
yagmi

>>22032021
but tradition turns you into an npc, its the opposite of free thought

>>22032036
the bagpipe and kilt shit isn't traditional

Before political ideology was all co-opted in a great power play, there used to be a different conservative-liberal dichotomy.
Conservatism was the camp that would prefer to keep traditions of old, ways of solving problems, obedience to king and/or country, if change was to happen it should happen slowly.
Liberal ideology back in the 1750s was at it's philosophical core, the rejection of tradition, or at least the idea that every new generation was entitled to remake society as they saw fit, no more king, equality for all, and so forth - the French Revolution sort.

>>22032013
based. pseuds will seethe

>>22032013
one hundred years of solitude

>>22032013
There's an interesting work called "Industrial Society and Its Future" that briefly discusses why modernity is "bad". You may have heard of it.

>>22032036
what amazes me about such food is the fact that you'd never discover it with your sissy foodsafe practices and yet it's still safe because of chemical interactions that you don't need to comprehend, all you need to know is that it's tradition and it's good

i learned a traditional method of making marinara sauce and everything about it seemed wrong and even unsafe. i spent years in the restaurant experimenting with the sauce and while i did end up with my own unique recipe after a lot of trial and error, for the restaurant i always went back to the traditional recipe, where we did certain things just because it was the way it was. i posted the method on /ck/ once and the thread was full of people bashing me saying this doesn't go in marinara, that doesn't go in marinara, this isn't foodsafe and this is nasty etc. but that sauce is handed down from generation to generation and it's what the people want

>>22032096
That depends entirely on your culture. If you're from East Asia or Islamic culture or something, then yes. But in the West, it's actually Progress that makes you an NPC, because that's what the mass media and cultural elite are pushing. These days, it takes real effort to be a traditionalist.

>>22032299
post the recipe

>>22032255
Ted has nothing to do with tradition

>>22032255
>>22032383
This. Tradition presupposes civilization.

>>22032382
no, cooking is too controversial and it's off topic and I'd spend an hour typing it and then however long arguing. the list of ingredients is mostly standard but there are some methods involved that make a journeyman cook get on his high horse and say 'no you're not supposed to do that!' but they'd get thrown out of the business for fucking with the recipe if they tried. for example, the fresh basil leaves are sweat with the onions and garlic, zapping the flavor right out of the basil. to most cooks who are trying hard in the field, they'd say this is wrong to do, but it's done intentionally

i just wanted to point out the value of tradition in the case of these weird food practices that come into fruition by a community doing what makes sense to them for so long and over time it evolves into this thing that somehow just works for reasons that aren't obvious. every culture has some weird food shit like eating aged fertilized eggs or whatever, shit that makes your stomach turn at the thought of it but is actually completely safe, nutritional, and delicious and without tradition you'd never know these delicacies. it can be really fascinating

>>22032096
>tradition turns you into an npc, its the opposite of free thought
1D thinking.
A truly free thinker is the only one fully capable of appreciating the traditional.