/lit/ - Literature

>>22027171

>>22027171
>Brown hand

Opinion discarded

>>22027171
Every reader has a different experience with a book. Do I agree that's the best self-help book that guy has read? As far as I can tell, yes. He said it himself.

>>22027182
/pol/ moment. Go back.

>>22027182
80 IQ

>>22027171
Has anyone here truly read tje Quran? I guess it is something like the bible, only with more wars

>>22027322
i bought it just to laugh at the verses about beating women and plowing them like a field

More like QUEER'an lmao gottem

>>22027322
It’s very different from the Bible and doesn’t tell a cohesive story. Non linear structure makes it very hard to follow, and even harder to understand once you learn that many things are said in response to an event or person that Muhammad witnesses/was talking to, but that is often not provided. Then there’s things like the distinction between verses revealed early into Muhammad’s prophethood vs late, where Islam had gone from a small minority group to a large political group which means you kind of eantto know the story about the first few decades of Islam in advance before you actually crack open the Quran. It also frequently calls back to stories from the Bible, or it refers to stories in passing assuming everyone already knows them, but sometimes those stories are slightly modified. There’s a lot of the same ideas expressed over and over but in slightly different words which can be cool if you dive into the mega autism of the meaning of the names of surahs or names of god and so on. The laws and long chapters are front loaded while the late chapters are more eloquent so reading it cover to cover is a bit painful but it’s overall much shorter and less of a pain than books like Numbers in the Bible.

Would I recommend? If you’re a nerd yes. Otherwise honestly no you won’t get much out of it just picking up a random copy with no context and blasting through it like a novel.

>>22027393
Kinda sounds like a LitRPG.

>>22027487

>>22027194
>>22027219
>shitskins seething

>>22027322
Yes, very boring and repetitive. Not a single thought provoking sentence.

>>22027171
>This is the only book I've read
checks out

>>22028407
>Not a single thought provoking sentence.
Yeah I'm sure this is a really delicate and sophisticated thought you've arrived at by reflection and thanks to years of experience with thinking and reading

>>22027171
The Bible mogs it. You can cope, seethe and mald all you want. Christ is King.

>>22028445
>I understand comparative literature through zoomer memes
Go back.

>>22028448
Not an argument

>>22028494
Neither was yours.

>>22027194
>>22027219
Seethe and bleed you will never be white

>>22028790
And that's a good thing. The West has fallen.

>>22027171
As a muslim I don't even agree with him kek.

>>22028436
Correct.

So is it safe to say the the previous Orthodox/tradcath twitter larpers have moved on to Islam at this point?

>>22027487
>>22027490
The amount of bullshit this guy was spewing is unreal,especially the part about the apostasy of Muslim intellectuals,i had that he's a Mossad shill but it looks like he's possessed by demons.

>>22027322
It's not really like the bible at all. It's Arabic poetry that has been badly editted and is deliberately repetitive to facilitate memorisation.

It references some Bible stories and retells them but doesn't follow a narrative or listing structure like the bible

>>22027188
Yeah dude. Im sure he means it and isnt virtue signalling for upvotes.

>>22029026
You're upset because he's right.

>>22027171
I read it (without commentary) and found it devoid of anything of interest, except vague retellings of stories better told in the Bible.
Thinkers and poets born under islam might be more interesting than this book, I suspect, but I don't know for sure.

Every muslim explanation of the "deep spirituality" within the book has felt like massive cope.

>>22027487
>>22027490
I like intellectually crippling views because it would have preempted industrialization, the biggest mistake in all of history that has in fact cost more devastating loss of life than any other imperialistic tradition.
What I dislike about Islam is how it treats the natural world as a kind of "playground" to be used and abused, that it's just a stepping stone to paradise. This criticism, however, is likewise applicable to Christianity, and it also brings me to why I dislike Christcucks the most: Christians always act like they have the moral high ground, but their Abrahamic tradition is not that fundamentally different in its anti-life tendencies (e.g., both Islam and Christianity have histories of chopping down ancient pagan trees); moreover, Christianity's worship of "reason" is fundamentally more destructive than the Islam's regressiveness, which would have kept population levels stable due to lack of medical intervention (from introduced industrial tech), and infant mortality is known to play an important role in genetic winnowing. Both Islam and Christianity are anti-life, but Christianity's emphasis on reason paved the way to semi-autonomous technological industrial systems stripping man of autonomy and self-reliant ways of life, and it also led to erosion of traditional integrity, overcrowding, and behavioral sinks around the world. In this sense, we can call the Christian's humanistic reason defined by heavy anti-life tendencies. Thanks to the Christian, we are now dealing with entirely novel problems such as the Anthropocene, environmental pollutants, pesticides, overpopulation, and much more. Furthermore, secular liberalism is, for all intents and purposes, an offshoot of Christianity, for they believe in its fundamental eschatological tenets of "progress" and "Day of Judgement / renovation" on the Earth. For example, transhumanists and singulatarians feel oddly Christian (and likewise Jewish).
Buddhism is obviously the superior tradition but not in the way majority of Westerners interpret or practice it. The reality is that the authentic, true Dharma is likewise incompatible with industrialization and modernity.
When one country industrializes, it forces others to do so also in order to avoid being cucked, so it causes a disastrous chain-effect. Therefore, the one who deserves the most blame is the one who started it: Protestant Christians. This, thereby, leads to the conclusion that the vast majority of the world is Christianized/Judaized to a large extent.

>>22027171
>oi this is bunch of crap, I have to help myself

Christians basically turned Original Sin into a reality with the Anthropocene. Things like oil spills, cutting down Amazonian rainforest for farmland to export goods to higher-developed countries, nuclear radiation, pesticides, lead poisoning, and much more did not exist during pre-industrial times. Not long ago, children in the USA were being sprayed with DDT until Rachel Carson's seminal "The Silent Spring" exposed it.

Christians basically turned Original Sin into a reality with the Anthropocene. Things like oil spills, cutting down Amazonian rainforest for farmland in order to export goods to higher-developed countries, nuclear radiation, pesticides, lead poisoning, and much more did not exist during pre-industrial times. Not long ago, children in the USA were being sprayed with DDT until Rachel Carson's seminal "The Silent Spring" exposed it. There are many modern practices analogous to the the destructiveness of DDT..

>>22029833
Imagine if the good guys had won in WW2, and we could actually talk about these things in a neutral medium and have an unbiased discussion of "climate change" without knowing 90% of it is astroturf coopted by the CIA to justify biopolitical control mechanisms.

The fascists basically invented modern green politics, green parties, agrarianism, etc. They wanted to effectively terraform Europe to undo the damage of modern industrialization and restore natural ecosystems. Instead we got unrestrained Americanism and CIA coups if you mildly criticize it, but oh, it's okay, you can still go write your master's thesis on DDT at the Cohen School for Ecology in the Goldberg Library at Lev and Barbara Abrams Memorial University (formerly Baptist University of Louisiana).

>>22029851
>The fascists basically invented modern green politics, green parties, agrarianism, etc.
You cannot compromised with the semi-autonomous technological industrial system; passing regulations merely defers the issue. The human psychology of the masses will never change, so it is preferable to remove the source of the problem: organization dependent technologies. What this has led to is the mechanization of man and the loss of self-reliant ways of life; it has also led to opposing the natural biological, evolutionary state such as high infant mortality. High infant mortality serves an immensely important role for genetic winnowing, and without it, you simply receive more and more cretinized, mechanized fools in overcrowded areas, which are full of behavioral sinks.
>Imagine if the good guys had won in WW2, and we could actually talk about these things in a neutral medium and have an unbiased discussion of "climate change" without knowing 90% of it is astroturf coopted by the CIA to justify biopolitical control mechanisms.
Climate change is only one problem, brainlet, and it's not even the one I've mentioned. Just look at this shit, and be sure to click "show more":
https://imgur.com/gallery/aHLjq/new
These kind of problems didn't exist during pre-industrial times.
Moreover, cutting down tons of primeval forests for farmland in order to export goods to higher developed countries, which is what they do in Costa Rica and Brazil, didn't exist in pre-industrial times either.
In pre-industrial times, people were more self-reliant and lived off the bounty of the Earth. They were a sparse and noble species. Human beings were meant to live in homogeneous small-scale groups in connection with the land, but it was the Christian that changed this with industrialization, which basically turned Original Sin into a reality.
>They wanted to effectively terraform Europe to undo the damage of modern industrialization and restore natural ecosystems.
Such a mentality of "terraforming to fix problems" is at the root of the Christoid's sick mind. You cannot bring back an old-growth forest. There is a delicate ecological community formed through a long process of successional stages.
>Instead we got unrestrained Americanism and CIA coups if you mildly criticize it...
You've been worshiping a Jew for 1000+ years. You are psychologically no different than a Jew. The only difference is you are a "proselytizing Jew". Your race is literally responsible for introducing a way of living that is completely at odds with the vast majority of recorded human history.
I think all of this anti-white liberal propaganda is done to deflect any real criticisms of your depraved logocentric race.
All of these problems are literally the doing of your race. What would happen if your race never made the mistake of industrialization? Then none of these problems would exist.
Also, the Nazis were Islamophiles, dumbass. I'm not.

>>22029893
Sorry, I only read schizoposts if they're the fun or informative kind, not the bitter kind. Yours has a whiny feminine tone and while I don't know what specific axe you have to grind, I have a feeling there's an entire backstory to it and if I say anything at all you're going to write 50 more posts trying to bring me into your "world" and soon I'll be hearing about some other poster you had a feud with in 2019 and so on and so forth.

I hope you get well.

>>22029905
I have two STEM degrees, and I'll be the first to tell you: Not a single positive thing has come from the technological-industrial order or science. Not a single positive thing. For example, why did the medical system come? Because the technocratic elite like the Rockefellers funded it for the purposes of forcing man to depend on it, to break to degrade their own natural immunity and destroy self-reliance. Look up the book "Rockefeller Medicine Men", which has frequently been censored in physical copies.
What has come from computers and the digital? Cloud computing, the loss of privacy, the movement from "Internet of Things" towards the "Internet of Bodies", biodigital signatures, the growing uselessness of man to AI and Machine Learning, and so on.
Kys, arrogant snow nigger. Technophile or pro-industrial snow nigs are a bigger problem than inbred goatfucking Muslims. The technophilic, pro-industrial snow nig is an outgrowth of the logocentric Christcuck.

>>22029905
>schizopost
Also, there's absolutely nothing schizo about anything I have to say, illiterate dumbass.

>>22029927
>The technophilic, pro-industrial snow nig is an outgrowth of the logocentric Christcuck.
some real deal philosophics goin on 'ere

>>22027171
What’s the best English translation of the Quran and how long will it take me to learn Arabic to understand the actual Quran?

>>22029932
The problem is that you muddle your message with your other schizo fixations. This is one of the biggest errors otherwise potentially productive schizos commit online. Ever read a schizo website? It draws you in with
>I'm going to develop Kaczynski's analysis of....
but then you start seeing
>SNOWNIGGER CHRISTPIG THE JESUITS WHITE YETI YAKUB'S LAB
and you go oh it's just one of those.

Stick to one message. Make multiple websites, for example one about technological-industrial society, the other about snowniggers, the other about christfags. Don't lump it all together, and especially do not commit the #1 schizo sin of cultivating a mentality of constant irritability at not being listened to, and a frustrated sense of entitlement to be listened to even when your schizo babbling is tying itself in knots.

Hope this helps.

>>22029942
A lot of my views were inspired by Ludwig Klages, who was a great German philosopher. I believe he would have become more popular if it weren't for his (based) virulent anti-Semitism and anti-rationalism.
Sadly, modern Germans are a bunch of cucked, mechanized, technophile faggots, which Klages predicted.
A lot of my philosophy was influenced by my own development and Pentti Linkola, Ludwig Klages, Theodore Kacyznski, (some) Evola, and more.
I am the greatest intellectual on this cesspool of a site.
In fact, I will go a step further: People would be better served worshiping ME instead of a dead Jew on a stick or an infernal black rock of death. I am the closest being to Maitreya, Saoshyant, Mahidi, Second Coming of Christ, or whatever else.
Morons like you are better off worshiping ME. Making fantastical, phantasmagorical statues of ME is better than your dead Jew on a stick or the geometric patterns in a mosque.

>>22029968
The problem with you is you're an overly sensitive stupid piece of shit.
Plenty of people here were yelling racial slurs towards people of Middle Eastern descent, so I retorted "snow nigger" only a few times. Thus, you completely dismiss everything I said, retard.
If you have an issue with any specific claim I make, then bring it up. I have countless sources I can share. None of my claims are truly controversial to the initiated.
Also, I did not mention Jesuits or Yakub.
>for example one about technological-industrial society, the other about snowniggers, the other about christfags.
My message is that Christfags led to the technological-industrial society. It's the same as Ludwig Klages' arguments.

I actually do not dislike NW-C Euros racially. For example, I respect their pagan heritages and past. I think Christianity, however, was a disaster for your race and, by extension, THE REST OF THE WORLD.

>>22029984
>Plenty of people here were yelling racial slurs towards people of Middle Eastern descent, so I retorted "snow nigger" only a few times.
See >>22029905
>if I say anything at all you're going to write 50 more posts trying to bring me into your "world" and soon I'll be hearing about some other poster you had a feud with in 2019 and so on and so forth.

I'm sincerely trying to help. You have a whiny, gay tone that makes you sound bitter and pissy, and you muddle your message, first by throwing all your grievances into every post you make, and second, by assuming it's YOU vs. EVERYONE instead of just realizing you're one of many people discussing viewpoints, and most people are going to be dismissive or even disrespectful by default.

Over time what usually happens to schizoposters is these factors mutually reinforce one another, as they become more and more idiosyncratic and the slightest pinprick of irritation can make them launch into a tirade about snownigger yakub jesuits, which alienates them more as people are even less inclined to listen, which validates their schizo assumption that it's all a grand conspiracy to silence them, so they get even angrier about the snownigger jesuits pagancucks, etc., until eventually they're saying completely random shit nobody can even decipher, like references to past guys they argued with.

If this doesn't apply to you I'm glad. But it's a pattern, and I detected it in your first reply, mistakenly or no.

>>22027182
Valid criticism.

>>22030019
If it helps, I apologize for saying you have a whiny gay tone. I am being disrespectful and mean because it's 4chan. A nicer and more diplomatic way to say this would have been that you come across as already embittered and already ready to fight about the smallest thing. This leads to spirals of bitter arguments, usually by naturally selecting for other schizos bitter enough to get into a "debate" spiral fueled by pettiness and mutual retardation accusations.

The only way out of the schizo spiral is to be pleasant and forgiving, and not to care so much when people are lazy or wrong, or even misread your posts.

>>22029968
For example, I worked with IoT sensors and data mining technologies on the cloud for some time. When I say we're moving in the direction of "Internet of Bodies" from "IoT", I am serious.
https://www.rand.org/multimedia/video/2020/10/29/what-is-the-internet-of-bodies.html
In our lifetimes, things like "brain-cloud interfaces" may become a reality. I even read a peer-reviewed journal article, in full, discussing this, which I can share and more. I am academically rigorous in my claims, as one who posses two STEM degrees. Technologies like "syringe injectable self-assembling nano neural meshes" are rapidly becoming a reality.
The whole point of Corona was to monopolize data on spread-out AWS/Azure datacenters. They even have undersea cables connecting datacenters in USA to Europe, and I can share maps for this. As Klaus Schwab said, "Data is the new gold."
CORONA WAS A HOAX. A GLOBAL HOAX.
The whole point of all this, which sounds like schizobabble to haughty morons like you, is to make my point clear: ORGANIZATION DEPENDENT TECHNOLOGIES HAVE A TELOS. What is this telos? The further loss of self-reliance, further social atomization, loss of communal integrity, mechanization of man, the further sacrifice of biodiversity, and so on. How did we reach this point? From the logocentric elements in Christianity, which BELIEVE ONE CAN REACH A UNIVERSAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD THROUGH REASON OR *ABSTRACT KNOWLEDGE.

>>22030019
>>22030032
You are a pseudointellectual, haughty faggot and brainlet who cannot ENGAGE WITH ANY OF MY COMPLEX IDEAS. Therefore, out of compassion, I shall break down my conclusions for you, and I have spent a lot of time defending each idea:

1. Industrialization was a mistake. It is a small percentage of total recorded human history, yet we are dealing with unprecedented problems. Here are some problems:
a) mechanization of man
b) loss of self-reliant ways of life
c) breakdown of community and tradition (e.g., mass migration)
d) rapid loss of biodiversity and pollution of earth (e.g., invasive plant species, oil spills, pesticides, and much more)
e) the worship of reason over other forms of "knowing" (e.g., the discursive mind is privileged over the empty mind devoid of abstractions)
f) overpopultion, overcrowding, and behavioral sinks around the world due to lack of infant mortality
g) forced reliance on a medical system that aims to destroy man's natural immunity (e.g., what is typically known as Big Pharma)
h) and much more...

2. Organization-dependent technologies have a telos, hence why I call them "semi-autonomous". The telos is defined by an increasing loss of privacy, loss of self-reliant ways of life, increasing overexploitation of the earth, and so one. This will culminate in things like "brain-cloud interfaces", "fusing with the machine", and so on. Already it is rendering man useless as he is replaced by automation.

3. Industrialization was born from the logocentric elements in Christianity... the belief "one can reach a universal understanding of the world through reason or abstract understanding", and that "one can thereby improve the world via increasing abstract knowledge".

I WAS SIMPLY MAKING THOSE THREE CLAIMS.

If you agree with all 3 claims and understand them deeply, then there is no point in arguing.

>>22028790
Feed and seed you will never breed

>>22027182
The weak thumb bothers me more. If you can't bench at least 2 plates your opinion is worthless.

>>22027490
This was incredible. Muhammed was a servant of the devil and the Qu'ran is not even worth reading.

>>22030109
Jesus is literally Satan:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/uqN8sIksj60x/

Jesus is Satan as an intermediary and Allah is Satan with no intermediary. However, it is better to be low IQ and inbred than to start the disaster of industrialization.

>>22030066
I agree with this post. It is the greatest and most important post I have ever read on this shithole of a site. Verily, you are the greatest of Buddhas. I can sense the sublime awakened mind in you. Through your unbounded all-pervading compassion, I can sense the most magnificent of Bodhisattvas. I kneel before your wisdom. Thank you for this incredible post and for parting the clouds of delusions to reveal the omnipresent sun of awakening.

>>22030066
I never dismissed any of your ideas, I haven't actually read any of your rambling posts with alternating capslocks and mentions of yakub jesuits. For all I know I agree with you on everything. I'm just letting you know that you're headed for schizo town with this kind of bitterness, overly fixated on stereotyped enemies, and you won't be the first to take this path.

Nothing against having enemies but bringing them up in every exchange no matter how tangential is a warmup for paranoid schizophrenia.

>>22027322
I read few random chapters, it has >1000 pages and written weirdly.

>>22030232
If you agree with my 3 points in that post, then shut the fuck up, retarded cunt. Anyone who disagrees with that post deserves an excruciating, slow and painful death. They are icchantikas of the highest order. If you agree with that post, then you should revere each and every single one of my posts with the highest honor, for I am dealing with the full implications of the Dharma ending age.

Now shut the fuck up, icchantika. You should kneel and prostrate before me, kissing the ground before my feet. Stupid icchantika fucking faggot.

Anyone who justifies the existence of the industrial system is undeserving of moral consideration. I don't hate Europeans, but #3 leads to having to admit you are responsible for this global crisis. Therefore, you are not in the position to attack or denigrate any other world traditions.

In fact, morons like you should stop thinking and simply embrace everything I say unthinkingly. I have seen morons like you completely flip-flop to archeofuturism, and by doing so, you completely lose every bit of your soul.

>>22030252
Why would anyone read your posts if they are strained through this tiresome gimmick and full of superfluous references that make them seem like an involuted blog nobody has been reading for 10 years but the guy just keeps going?

>>22030285
My post is absolute truth regardless of whether or not the insipid rabble choose to read them. The three points I've enumerated are irrefutable to the one who is entirely honest. Arguably, #1-2 are the most important, irrevocable, and I am willing to consider robust arguments against #3. I have no time to deal with brainlets like you who can't follow a simple argument. If you want to discuss this further, then take it to this thread:
>>22030132

I care little about a person's character in this regard. In fact, one can fuck billions of little babies and be an anti-industrialist, yet I would consider him more moral than the anti-pedo technophile.