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22013108 No.22013108 [Reply] [Original]

why do you guys rarely talk about contemporary novels? even if it's mostly shit don't you get bored of talking about the same thing over and over again?

>> No.22013113

>>22013108
start with the greeks

>> No.22013116

>>22013108
I love contemporary novels, recommend a few good ones please

>> No.22013119

>>22013108
Because they're hipsters, they also have a fetish for the new, which accounts for why only 15 of the 100 books date from before 1900 and omit even such major works as the plays of the Greek tragedians, the works of the Greek and Roman historians (indeed, ALL histories, the only nonfiction being written by philosophers or religious scribes), Beowulf, The Tale of Genji by Murasaki Shikibu, any of the Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese literature, The Song of Roland, the Norse and Icelandic sagas, The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio, The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer, Le Morte d'Arthur by Thomas Malory, etc., etc., etc. There are only three plays by two playwrights, Goethe and Shakespeare. There is NO lyric poetry. At all. And yet you want us to believe that this is "a list of the highest and most sublime works of art known to man". Then all I can say is that it's too bad poetry is such a washout. Personally, I thought Goethe wrote some fine verses, but unless they're recited in the context of a play they don't count. For that matter, it seems that most theater doesn't measure up either, and all history is a dead loss. Pity poor Thucydides: his recounting of Pericles' Funeral Oration became the model for the next 2,500 years of public speaking, but it just doesn't quite measure up to the standard set by Gene Wolfe's The Book of the New Sun. And old Plutarch must be feeling chagrined, given that his Parallel Lives was the main source for Shakespeare's Roman tragedies, sometimes in near word-for-word borrowings (as in the famous description of Cleopatra by Enobarbus).

>> No.22013122

>>22013113
start with the vedics

>> No.22013125

>>22013108
Nothing new under the sun. Old dead niggas wrote all the interesting stuff first and best.

>> No.22013131

>>22013108
I don't know contemporary novels (but I never post on threads about novels). I read contemporary philosophy, but I never make threads about that because 4channers don't even understand Plato or Aristotle...

>> No.22013132
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22013132

>>22013119
>>22013108
So what are some good contemporary novels

>> No.22013135

>>22013132
Houellbecq
Delillo
DFW
Pynchon
Cormac

>> No.22013141

>>22013132
Omega Minor by Paul Verhaeghen

>> No.22013144

>>22013141
Alright bucko I'm starting it

>> No.22013145

>>22013141
Very interesting.

>> No.22013146

>>22013141
Lol

>> No.22013150

>>22013144
It's not on libgen nevermrind

>> No.22013180

>>22013150
It's on mobilism. Here's a link
>https://mega.nz/file/v74BgCiJ#6AXyg7n_Um7y0VxqcLtTQty1rVJyxa0PQwnobG5vM7A

>> No.22013187

>>22013180
Thanks very much anon, didnt know about mobilism. I will report back after 100 pages

>> No.22013196

>>22013187
Stfu

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22013207

>>22013108
The west has fallen the east has risen

>> No.22013214

>>22013196
I will find and murder you if you dont apologize for this post

>> No.22013245

>>22013207
>Anime
The east has fallen even harder.

>> No.22013253

>>22013132
Yann Martel. Underrated af

>> No.22013318

>>22013141
>Im Anfang war die Tat—In the Beginning was the Act.
what does he mean by that?

>> No.22013320

>>22013245
kek

>> No.22014031

Those are containment threads

>> No.22014048

Quite like Colm Toibin. Austere minimalist prose. House of Names was good.

>> No.22014050

>>22013135
>Old men or dead men
Wow so contemporary

>> No.22014079

>implying people here even read the classics

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22014144

>>22013135
>DFW

>> No.22014279

I think most post-war novels are fairly bad. 21st century novels are especially bad. I could go into the reasons why I think this is the case, but suffice to say that I just don’t think they’re good.