/lit/ - Literature

First

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/66380/the-allbright-system-a-sci-fi-progression-litrpg
Thoughts?

>>22010647
>female lead
Dropped

>>22010649
do women scare you anon?

>>22010612
magining an alternate reality where brandon sanderson is translated to the chinese and analogously to jerry lewis's films in france is canonized by intellectuals who read the sizeable corpus of D&D mormon fantasy not as schlock but as an oulipo like masterpiece of generative literature, going as far to deny it was influenced by tolkien at all it method of construction compared to the poetry of Charles Olson while Russia's foreign policy reverse kremlinologists study it arduously hoping to unlock the keys to the american socius' holofractal TTRPG structure streaming up from the RAND corporation down to suburban basements

>>22010652
>do women scare you anon?
Do misogynists trigger you, femanon?

>>22010658
Not in the least but thanks for confirming what you are. There was me thinking you were simply an idiot.

>>22010652
became a tranny because of role playing games and still hate women

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/56454/voidwalker-a-litrpg-progression
Oh yeah

>>22010652
No, but they’re certainly annoying as fuck.

Transmigration, Regressor, Litrpg, NPC-chads, I kneel.

is rock falls, everyone dies a good introduction to the genre? ive been wanting to try reading some litrpg but most of them are really serious time investments (100+ chapters)

>>22010612
What is the appeal?

>>22010773
most people get introduced to the genre through japanese LN/WNs.
like kumo for example:
https://nyaa.si/view/1605550

>>22010649
Incomprehensibly based.

>>22010612
>All harem in the OP pic
>All shit recommended links
I sleep

>>22010612
...is a single of those books a LitRPG? From my knowledge they are just basic and dull harem erotica novels lmao
>>22010773
Rock Falls is great, go for it

Noah "Pirateaba" James has been making millions on Patreon writing their webserial The Wandering Inn. By now, the word count is over 12 million words, making the series over triple the length of Wheel of Time. They are putting out over 2 million words per year - ASOIAF is 2 million words so far. Pirateaba is likely writing for 6 hours a day on a consistent basis.

>>22011288
all to further the story of a stay at home moms power fantasy. What a world in which we live.

>>22011288
So much utter delusion.

>>22011173
Life Reset is good. His new series is shit though.

>>22011173
This
I like prigression but fuck this harem garbage.

>>22011288
>Pirateaba is likely writing for 6 hours a day on a consistent basis.
...no? He's streaming his writing sessions, they usually range from 3 to 6 hours, twice per chapter. There are two chapters a week. So four days of work. That doesn't include thinking about what to write, but Pirateaba infamously creates very vague notes, keeping most of the time in his head.
Sometimes he writes for up to 12 hours in one sessions if they really want something done, though. Usually those chapters are the best ones.

>>22010612
what would it be like if someone wrote an episodic story (isekai) where anons from a particular thread, provided that they get trips or higher, are taken directly to a rural/wooded utopian village and all the anons had to work together to succeed?

When I was a kid (decades ago), I used to run characters through an RPG scenario, and write about what happened.
I showed them to my peers, who sneered at what they called "stupid D&D stories".
At some point, LitRPG actually becomes a genre.
So I took a new stab at what I used to do, but I sure as hell am not getting gazillions of readers, comments, or ratings on RoyalRoad.
What does a LitRPG need to get attention?
I feel like my childhood peers are still sneering at my work.

>>22013077
How often are you putting new material up? Once or twice a week is a minimum for your fan base to grow. Plus like it or not you have to be market savvy and write to what the audience is looking for.

>>22013077
Give me a rough-outline/run-down of your work and it's tags and i should be able to tell you where you are going wrong.
>t. avid RR reader
>>22011457
I too am an enjoyer of progression provided it progresses at a reasonable pace. So many stories have it in their title and do the exact opposite these days.

>>22013483
It was once per day, until engagement fell off a cliff, then I gave up on it for a long time.
Right now it's once per week.
Evidently, I have no idea what the audience is looking for.
>>22014024
It follows some entry-level PCs as they uncover a conspiracy of bards who use compulsion magic to force people to watch their terrible work. So, MST3K the RPG scenario.
Later I'll incorporate bad movie tropes. It's supposed to be silly, and vaguely inspired by the Xanth series.
Definitely not what everyone else is doing.

>>22014233
Are your characters aware of the game rules under which they operate?

>>22014422
Sometimes.
For instance, after the wizard gets a negative-level applied to him, he verifies it by checking whether he has any level-2 spells prepared anymore, and finds he doesn't.
Much later, they'll meet a frazzled-looking cleric who tells them about his conspiracy theory of the existence of a "gamemaster" who controls them AND the gods.
Mostly, I keep their awareness of the game-rules subtle.

>>22014434
Seems more like regular fantasy than litrpg.

>>22014233
>It follows some entry-level PCs as they uncover a conspiracy of bards who use compulsion magic to force people to watch their terrible work. So, MST3K the RPG scenario.
>Later I'll incorporate bad movie tropes. It's supposed to be silly, and vaguely inspired by the Xanth series.
>Definitely not what everyone else is doing.
This is not LitRPG. This doesn't even stand next to a LitRPG story. I really hope you are just trolling because no way any individual capable of writing a story would be at the same time retarded enough to buy into 'LitRPGs are just DnD stories' meme. LitRPG is fantasy with organized power system with absolute numbers atached. Nothing else, nothing more. Classic DnD is not something LitRPG readers like, generally.

>>22010649
Just read Battle Trucker and is the only exception.

>>22010612
This is a really shit list of litrpgs.

>>22010656
>the american socius' holofractal TTRPG structure streaming up from the RAND corporation down to suburban basements
now that's a conspiracy theory I'd buy into

>>22014811
>This is a really shit list of litrpgs.
There is not a single litrpg on the list

>>22014811
This thread was made by someone who hates the subgenre in an attempt to create a justification to kick topics he doesn’t like out of /sffg/ by claiming that they belong in a different thread. Of course his recommendation list is gonna be shit he probably just grabbed the first results off of google.

>>22010612
What litrpgs are you currently reading?
Me: Defiance of the fall, Battle trucker, Weapons of mass destruction.

>>22014606
Then I guess they really are stupid D&D stories.

>>22016819
What did you mean by this.

>>22016819
No, don't need to be hurt. Anon is just mad that litRPG is a stupidly niche weeb subgenre where people explain outloud their stats. Your concept is too close to literature for him.

If you write for fun just do whatever the fuck you want and if you try your best it might be decent. Anything can work if you do it good.

>>22016852
They are different though. In litrpg the system/rules/dm whatever is a part of the story. If people started out engaged with anon's story and dropped off, it's probably because he was misrepresenting it as something it isn't. It he'd tagged it as romance he'd have lost his audience when they figured out it wasn't romance. Maybe gamelit is a better tag, if it's like quag keep or NPCs, where it's a game world but not so much. Or maybe it's just a normal fantasy that anon compromised to grift off its audience.

>>22016873
that anon had some sort of trauma with people mocking his D&D derivative stories when he was little and D&D wasn't what it is today. I don't remember reading that he had that kind of issues when posting it online until he came to this thread and people were mad about niche subgenres.

>>22016873
I was trying to turn an RPG scenario I wrote into a LitRPG, since the latter seem to be so popular.
But from reading around, it seems LitRPGs are more about *computer* RPGs, e.g. Everquest or World Of Warcraft, and not table-top pen-and-paper RPGs. Mine is definitely the latter.
I have no plans to post actual stats along with the action...that seems so banal. Besides, the way I GM, the players can always talk their way through a situation; they don't have to kill everything. I give them XP for defeating opponents, however they do it.

>>22017146
Had you ever even read a litrpg before trying to turn your book into one?

>>22017218
I read the first 16 chapters of "Never Die Twice" on RoyalRoad.
Other than the incongruous stat blocks, it looked like something I'd be willing to write.

>>22017146
There is a manga (adapted from a light novel that I won't read) called something like "A Munchkin Surviving with 1HP" that tries to do this genre with D&D. It doesn't really work because D&D aims at being a transparent system. You know it's there but if you unfocus your view a little bit you're just telling a story (5e and OSR mainly, 4e and 3.5 were different).
I still think your idea of fantasy MST3K was okay, if anything take away the D&D elements and just make it a fantasy novel compatible with D&D like Record of Lodoss War or Slayers. I feel that will suit you better and it is the more relevant genre.

>>22017233
My story's engagement says otherwise, but thanks for the vote of confidence.

Bump

I don't like the crossover of litrpg and coomlit. What are some fun ones that don't devolve into coomerism? Even better, what are some with no females at all?

The only literary RPG is the Duing Earth RPG since you literally gain levels by your literary skills

>>22020006
okay, you got me. Tell me more.

>>22010649
Didn't know 4chan fags and I shared the same habits.

have people here looked at flan t5 before?
apparently it is very good at summarizing text specifically.

>>22010612
>try to jerk off to harem litrpg audiobook
>all voiced by some gruff 50 year old guy

Why, these are made for men aren't they? Meanwhile the romance audiobooks made for women have either female or mixed voice narration. Explain
At this point i might have to go full AI

>>22016873
>They are different though. In litrpg the system/rules/dm whatever is a part of the story.
I'm still not sure if even this is actually a good definition. I've admittedly only read the more popular/recommended series, so maybe I'm not aware of exceptions, but this description is too broad for what LitRPG actually describes and I think people would get pretty autistic about it if you tried to stretch these boundaries.
So, as examples:
If the world has strict rules and systems that closely mimic an RPG -- but only the narrator is aware of them, without the characters knowingly interacting with those systems -- is that still LitRPG? Everything else is the same, the characters just don't know or understand they have stats and think their progression is just vague magic power or whatever, without being aware of any of those underlying systems.
What if the systems aren't represented with numbers, but I don't know, fucking palm-reading or something -- so your character sheet is represented on your palm, without any explicit numbers, it's just lines and astrology shit -- is that LitRPG?

> LitRPG is fantasy with organized power system with absolute numbers atached.
See this anon as an example for said autism. His definition of LitRPG is just Brandon Sanderson with explicit numbers attached to mana count and spell level. He gets mad at the people saying LitRPG is just DnD, when that's exactly what his definition describes.
I won't blogpost about this all day, but my point isn't that LitRPG *is* actually DnD, my point is that the definitions suck. The stated definitions are too vague and most actual examples of the genre are far more specific.

>>22020706
Isn't it just a niche online definition for a niche japanese genre that will never recognize that term?
Most of the japanese stuff here is clasified as fantasy and dunjon

I remember reading D&D parodies in like 2000 that were basically what litrpg is now.

>Reading Delvers LLC after seeing it in the OP
>It's kind of fun, with a bit of a twist on the genre
>Half way through the second book and suddenly a literal gay black tranny is introduced and it promptly goes on a tangent about how it's completely okay and how the McAmericans now feel responsible for making everyone accept gays and troons

>>22022437
And that's a good thing.

>>22020711
The term was coined by the Russian authors who first started writing it there.

>>22023569
That isn't where it started.

You faggots can’t even define the genre

>>22024221
Get a lawyer

It shouldn't be surprising that genre boundaries aren't defined. No one knows what fantasy or science fiction even mean either.

>>22024224
Make me

>>22010612
Are you counting Xianxia, Xuanhuan, and Wuxia works like Coiling Dragon, Desolate Era, Renegade Immortal, I Shall Seal the Heavens, Cradle etc.?

How does LitRPG compare to conventional fantasy as a genre, specifically things like WoT, ASOIAF, Stormlight etc, in terms of worldbuilding and plotting? I love progression elements in series like Codex Alera, but I'm new to the genre itself. Will the vidya game elements ruin the immersion for me?

>>22025362
I think you're a sincerely stupid person for even thinking of this question in the first place.

>>22010612
I quite like litrpg and I recognize none of these books but they all look bad based on the cover

>>22025362
depends on the author obviously.

>>22025362
>>22025479
that said the vidya game element doesn't need to clash with world building, I can't think of better world building in classical fantasy than there is in Defiance of The Fall even though it takes hundreds of chapters to fully flesh out why things are the way they are

>>22010780
I can sort of get the appeal. It's effectively reading a story of video game, or a scifi/fantasy story with a hard magic system involving very tangible numbers or clearly defined rules for the characters.

It can be kind of fun to learn about an idealized video game or system. You get items, loot, XP, battles, do quests and shit. It's a bit like reading Let's Plays instead of watching other people play it.

But I haven't seen any story do LitRPG justice though.

Writing is amateur, painfully amateur, which is expected due to the web-novel origins of the genre. But readers seem way more attached to system/worldbuilding than characters/story. So if you're looking for an engaging story of twist and turns, you aren't gonna see much of it. People rage in comments if there's any sort of "setback" or loss of progression. Instead what happens is power + ability creep and ever escalating stakes and more dangerous enemies. So you end up with a core audience who want constant dopamine hits of loot + numbers-go-up!, rage against anything that roadblocks their self-insert protag, and put story second to system/worldbuilding all the while being extremely permissive to bad writing, no matter how much they rant about how bad it is.

It feels a bit like how I view isekai. The idea is cool. And there's so many different isekai manga out there. You read one hoping it'll actually be good and end up disappointed. LitRPGs are the same way. There's so many, you just keep pulling that slot machine lever hoping this one will actually be good for once.

vool, when did lit get a litrg thread?
can i get a recommendation?
i read/listened to the first 4 he who fights with monsters— good but going off the rails
3 booka of nova terra— shit
virdian gate online— just starting, ok but not great
cradle— only first 2 books but good

any recommendations based off of this?
anything with good characters and writing?
thanks

>>22025594
Monsters rallies when the MC gets back from Earth.

Asking for good writing in this genre is a bit much. Way of the Shaman for plot twists and Dungeon Crawler Carl for characters.

Bump

>>22024221
Oh, look, everyone...the world's last epistemologist! Isn't it precious.

>>22025895
thanks, good stuff

Thoughts on Randidly Ghosthound?
I am oddly addicted to that novel.

>>22026734
It's has fast pacing and lots of action. Overall it's just popcorn entertainment.

>>22026772
Yeah, I feel the same way about it desu. I feel like puddles is attempting to make some sort of philosophical message but it just get's lost and muddled in the 2300 chapters it has.

Feel the same about The Primal Hunter and HWFWM. Real good popcorn entertainment,

It's just a fad soon to pass.

>>22028082
Over a decade old now.

>>22013077
>>22014233
>>22014434
Despite the fact that no one cares about my story, I've begun writing it again.
Part of the reason is that it's easy.
My job has been particularly soul-draining for the last few months, and I've been unable to write, but somehow I'm able to write this.
So at least I'm writing again.
And it gives me a reason to read through my old RPG scenario, get familiar with Pathfinder 1e's ruleset again, and other things that bring me personal nerdy joy.
And maybe I'll actually finish writing the scenario, and do something with it, even though all my players moved out of state long ago.

>>22010729
Is there any female lead story where the FMC isn't annoying?

>the mc loses their unique advantage/cheat mid story
why do authors do this, it makes the story less interesting

>>22028878
The original premise lost steam/novelty.

>>22029044
that's like cutting off the leg to revive a horse, you're not getting that steam back by subtracting the only appeal

>>22028481
Rebirth of the Malicious Empress of Military Lineage. Unfortunately the male lead sucks.

>>22029263
Fuck you

>>22029298
sorry little marquis

>>22028878
Because if the protagonist is OP and never under threat it quickly becomes boring to read.

Female MCs are shit right?

>>22030309
No, but most litrpg authors are incels or anti-social so have no idea how to write female characters.

>>22030309
They are. What do you think makes for a good FMC?

>>22010612
Are these books good if you want an edgy and based MC?

>>22010649
typical LitRPG reader attitude

>>22030618
>Are these books good if you want an edgy and based MC?
No.

Most MCs are simps and don't even entertain evil thoughts. If they do have evil thoughts then they're usually a monster race and the author writes regular races as assholes to justify the monster mc being evil.

That's why I'm planning to write my own book about a slave master MC who actually does become evil and has no shame or cope about it.

Also some of these progression books can have the MC return to an older area where the people treated him like trash and he doesn't get revenge because
>it's not worth my time heh
Absolute cringe imo.

>>22029475
I drop the book when this happens either way. So they lost a reader and shiller in the end. Others drop books if it gets too boring, I will drop the book if the author retconned the protagonist into being weaker than he started out with.

John Conroe loves to do this. His Demon Accords series had the protag being "too op", so he pulled some shit out his ass that depleted uranium is all of a sudden his bane, and how a granny just has to open her purse and pull out some depleted uranium and he is done.
Hack author pieces of shit.

>>22030752
I agree that is bad writing but for a different reason. The protag should never have been OP to start with.

>>22030822
>a literal angel of war shouldn't be OP when he comes to murk the mortals

>>22030752
>John Conroe loves to do this. His Demon Accords
Is that the series where in the first book story starts in some gay club in new york (or san francisco) everyone talks like they are homosexual and some of them are actually vampires? I dropped it there, was expecting at least some sort of Dresden rip off instead got some faggotry garbage

Is there a site like readcomicsonline or watchseries for books? Where I could just type a title and read it like that? Need something like that for the next couple of months.

>>22031371
for webnovels or books?

>>22031394
Preferably both but I'll take either or at this point.

>>22031371
like, real books? check the sitcky
trash? Royal Road and Wattpad

>>22031420
Doesn't seem to work. Thank you though.

>>22031403
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/67568/a-knight-of-valora-serenity

You can read my book!

>>22032347
No.

>>22032347
Will do, thank you.

>>22029263
Apparently it's getting a TV adaptation. Makes sense, I keep wanting to read it instead of playing video games.

>>22032347
Pass.

>>22031371
What a terrible way to read.

>>22031371
There's writing atlas but that's for short stories: https://writingatlas.com/

Can any patreon chad upload the infinite realm chapters on Kemono party desu?

>>22028481
Azarinth Healer desu

>>22030667
Drop some names anon, I want to know what to avoid. This shit sounds hair-pulling annoying.

>>22010780
I like when number get bigger

>>22018300
>no females at all

I'm waiting for that one as well. We're better off writing your own material at this point. After all the average writing quality of ProgFantasy is no higher than a moderately gifted high-schooler's fanfiction.

>>22030309
unless she is getting fucked constantly then it's shit

Fuck, I hate it so much when an author has the MC do something based but then immediately break into a monologue about how absolutely necessary it was and how he's totally the good guy here. And you know damn well it's not supposed to be some profound portrayal of self-delusion, but a pathetic attempt to appease a vocal minority of upset moralfags GGGNNGGHHH IF YOU WANT TO BE EDGY, GROW A FUCKING SPINE AND OWN IT!

>>22010612
KNELL

>>22035263
>I hate fake sociopaths, why can't they be real sociopaths like me?! That would make my self-insertion so much easier for me!

>>22029263
i will never get tired of dumb Chinese femal led romance .
it's fucking ridiculous.
>3000 chapter
>Female lead with amnesia .
>she's actually a super agent ,super human hacker .who also look like a model
>People challenge her
>she bitch slap them
>rinse
>repeat

>>22035585
oh, but just to be fair.
Rebirth of the Malicious Empress was pretty decent

>>22035585
I see you are also familiar with Reincarnation Of The Businesswoman At School.

To be fair the Chinese male led webnovels are not any different.

>>22035648
yeah , but cultivation novels ' try' to do something interesting from time to time . female lead novels are the same template ,copy and pasted .
and why is Chinese writing so dry? ,they can't write dialogue or banter if their life depended on it . And who the hell end a 2500 chapter novel in 15lines?

>>22018300
There aren't any such litrpgs, the rpg game formula and story mechanics always involve mc going on adventure and falling in love or least finding a love interest, that's is basically the core of litrpg. Other than that people who write litrpg tend to be complete amateurs obssesed with games and also obsessed with women and cooming, they have no experience (real world or not) or knowledge to write anything but most coomer focused simple academy setting where the plot/story is about a woman (sorry "girl") and any actual adventure is just padding for the shitty and unrealistic ya drama.
It's so bad because relationships is the most important thing to them other than games but they have no irl experience in relationships either, so the relationships they write are entirely based on what they have seen in movies and games, it would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Writing an adventure story that has no women/cooming, for example one that has strong political element and characters with realistic motivations is completely outside of their worldview and unerstanding.

>>22035875
>wordswordswordswordswordswordswords
holy shit dude, dis a litrpg author fuck your mom or something?

>>22035875
Is this pasta?

>>22035889
>>22035930
Is the litrpg audience always this scared of paragraphs? I can see why the royal road shit always feels like a discord convo.

>>22035875
go psychoanalize your own shit, let my coomers cum

>>22035889
>litrpg aurhors having sex ever
lol

>>22035693
>why is Chinese writing so dry?
Unironically communism.

Part of the switch from traditional Chinese to simplified was to make memorizing 50k+ characters easier for the average peasant to improve literacy. A byproduct of Lenin-Marxist-Maoist education was an emphasis on strict rote memorization and very basic sentence structure that was utilitarian instead of poetic. Hence why Chinese commies love simple slogans and catch phrases that appeases to the typical peasant. This makes modern Chinese extremely dry because the people writing it never read anything more creative than a typical web novel or Mao's little red book, which only breeds lower standards.

The appeal isn't the writing, the appeal is the fantasy/ideas/harems/power-ups.

>>22036145
There has to be writers that understand classical Chinese with all it's proverbs, double entendres, and Buddhism motifs

>>22036173
nta but he was somewhat correct, it is not the writing exactly but communism. Communism kills creative freedom, those that were intellectual were oppressed or killed, those that were stupid unthinking robots were promoted instead, cummunism is censorship itself, it's why all chinese works are so similar, because they just copy their old wuxia classics because they are unable to come up with good new ideas due to decades of indoctrination and goverment oppression which applies on individual level but also cultural level that affects the entire society.

>>22025560
>You read one hoping it'll actually be good and end up disappointed.
read mushoku tensei

>>22036279
Its garbage

>>22036173
>There has to be writers
The best one I've seen that does it is Ravages of Time that retells Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, which is Hong Kong-based and references a bunch of Confucius/Mencius/etc... and other random Chinese poetry shit I never heard of it. It also has some pretty clever dialogue and foreshadowing referencing famous Rot3K events and lesser known legends. It's not litRPG but it's lit.

>understand classical Chinese
Classical Chinese isn't really emphasized. It's like expecting English readers to read Shakespeare and make references to Julius Caesar and expecting everyone to get it.

>proverbs, double entendres, and Buddhism motifs
Proverbs/double entredres/Buddist motifs exist, but then it gets meme'd to hell because everyone uses it, hence 'jade beauties'/'you court death!'/'I do not know whether to laugh or cry'.

I guess the other issue is that writers have to be as unoffensive as possible. The CCP will crack down and delete your fic if there's even an iota of potentially political commentary. Novels got purged for suggesting a protagonist overthrow a corrupt government implying that the corrupt government is an allegory to the CCP. It's pretty common for the CCP to censor shit without warning, randomly, and for the pettiest of reasons.

>>22036279
Its trash

>>22036289
>>22036283
It's not. I guarantee neither of you have read the books.
The worldbuilding, plot, and characterization is also masterclass in Mushoku Tensei. Unironically among the best Japan has to offer in terms of fantasy

>>22036299
I watched anime and it was enough.

>>22036299
>The worldbuilding, plot, and characterization is also masterclass in Mushoku Tensei. Unironically among the best Japan has to offer in terms of fantasy
I cringed reading this. You come off as someone who hasn't read much in her life.

>>22036309
The anime is good but it's not as good as the books, because it cuts out A LOT of the worldbuilding and characterization to fit the 20 minute time slots that all anime are confined too.
>>22036313
I've read and enjoyed LOTR, A Song of Ice and Fire, Dune, and Wheel of Time. So I consider myself pretty well read.
Moreover, you're pretty tone deaf, anon. You're in a litRPG thread, and you have the audacity to critique other's taste?

>>22036335
>LOTR, A Song of Ice and Fire, Dune, and Wheel of Time
mainstream reddit r/fantasy bestof list reading. ok pedro.

>>22036444
popular is LE BAD

>>22036457
When all you read is flavor of the month, then yeah, it's pretty bad.

>>22036506
Mushoku tensei is the flavor of the month?

>>22036517
Is one of the most popular web novels/LNs with an incredibly popular anime adaptation that nobody outside the season its airing gives a shit about flavor of the month?
I don't know pedro. You tell me.

>>22036533
That's pretty niche bro.

>>22036533
Not that anon, but I read Mushoku Tensei in 2016. So I'm not a FOTM reader
>>22036506
>When all you read is flavor of the month, then yeah, it's pretty bad.
There is literally nothing wrong with the books I listed.
Asoiaf has fantastic prose, worldbuilding, and plot threads.
Dune is the fucking father of space opreas and it's famous for its worldbuilding.
Same with LOTR which is the father of fantasy and the fucking gold standard for what good worldbuilding looks like
I can't fucking stand contrarians like you who act like everything popular MUST be of a low quality.

>>22035585
Isn't that a reversed gender version of most chinese cultivation/reincarnation/isekai novels?
>X000 chapter
>Male lead with amnesia/reincarnated/isekaied .
>he's actually a super genius with a cheat item / skill/ inheritance and also look handsome with a big dick
>People challenge him
>he bitch slap them
>rinse
>repeat

>>22010612
you are reading childrens pulp.
what he actual fuck is wrong with you people?
Ancestors cry

>>22036800
yeah I read a lot of garbage schlock but that crap is on another level
mind-boggingly horrible

>>22036335
The anime is garbage, the first few eps were interesting and then it went to shit.
the protag is garbage, then he joins the team which one of them of course a girl, then there is of course another girl, he goes to shitty adventure where he meets more girls, frees slaves etc. Literal japanese isekai garbage story and characters.
If muhoku tensei is what japanese neets fantasize and self insert into then Japan is truly doomed.

>>22029475
so make threats that match the cheat.

>>22037262
That leads to a never ending spiral of power creep. That could be fun if handled well, but let's be honest, most litrpg authors are bad writers.

>>22037262
that defeats the purpose
You make them OP so the story doesn't have physical challenges. This could mean focusing on internal struggles, or using them as tools to develop other aspects.

Paying respects to Azarinth Healer. It got repetitive towards the end but had an acceptable ending and the sheer quantity of text was impressive. The only other one I read is Beneath the Dragoneye Moons but I'm finding the author's personal/political views hamfisted into things more and more irritating. Narratively the story is also all fucked up because he spent two books on massively boosting the main character's powerlevel (without technically levelling her, she's approximately 5x more powerful due to body enhancements and wizardry training), so there's really no serious threats anymore, whereas early on there WERE serious threats that had to be overcome with teamwork. It came to a head in the latest chapter, where she and her girlfriend straight up murdered a gang of adventurers less than half her level when there was absolutely no need to do so. This will probably get a chapter or two of retrospection in the next couple chapters, but it underlines the point that the current arc, just like the last two, has no real threats. Maybe this will pick up in the next arc/volume when they start dealing with immortals who've been around thousands of years and have levels in the 4 figure range, but I'm starting to doubt it. We're not going to get another bug war or trapped in caves arc.

>>22030624
>typical LitRPG reader attitude
If that's so, why are there so many litRPGs with female leads being written?

>>22037547
That made me curious. I know the few incels here raging about female mc's don't actually reflect the vast majority of the readers, but are there actually female readers of litrpg?

azarinth healer is pretty subpar relative to its popularity imo. has serious pacing problems

>>22037760
The author admits they were a complete beginner when they started and you can definitely see them gradually improve as the series progressed.

>>22037813
I think I read like 500 chapters, but she had barely gotten any real connections before she was the strongest human on earth. I guess I like my progression slow and not a huge fan of those "stuck in a cave growing stronger before entering society again" storylines.

>>22010612
Wait. This place has a litrpg general now? You mean we won't have to bear that bullshit in sffg anymore?

>>22037873
I post all my litrpg comments to sffg.

>>22037873
No. It's just a butthurt tranny upset his sffg is not "pure". This thread will eventually die and not appear again.

>>22010612
is harem lit stagnating?
every story is the same now . Shifter,superhero, or magic user .
it's weird the authors take so little risks considering their genra is niche to begin with.
i'm rereading tamer king of dinosaurs just because i can't stomach anything else.

>>22037904
>Shifter
What's a shifter?

>>22037928
human that can turn into a hybrid.

>>22010612
so i found this author . what's the deal exactly?
what to expect?
Beautiful lesbian girls being elegantly lesbian ?

>>22038023
Yes. It's lesbian smut for 12yr olds.

>>22010699
based

>>22037227
>The anime is garbage
We're talking about the books
>the protag is garbage
He's incredibly complex, and he feels real. Watching him evolve throughout the books is incredibly entertaining, especially since he isn't perfect, because the dude is massive fuck up.
>then he joins the team which one of them of course a girl,
And this is a problem why? Why is he not allowed to travel with a women?
>then there is of course another girl,
Slyph? His wife?
>he goes to shitty adventure where he meets more girls, frees slaves etc.
Rudeus did not free slaves or end slavery. He actually bought a slave.
>Literal japanese isekai garbage story
The story is fantastic. The Hitogami payoff + the aftermath is incredible.

>>22037562
>but are there actually female readers of litrpg?
Even the most liberal stories with tons of female character and main protagonists being women like The Wandering Inn managed to achieve ONLY 10% female readers. Don't expect more than 1-3% of female readers for the typical litrpgs.

>>22038023
bad fiction, bad smut. It's an extreme autist obsessed with lesbian characters, except that he writes it as good as an autist can, which means it's shit. You're better of reading actual mainstream fantasy, which actually has good lesbians because it's written majorly by fucking lesbians.

>>22038224
>all the colors of the rainbow and yet they choose near identical shades for 45-54 and 65+
triggered

>>22037873
no, it's a forced meme, post away in sffg

>>22037928
>dear fellow wolf people

>>22038224
The wandering in doesn't appeal to women though. it appeals to soft fat guys that don't shave

>>22038371
>it appeals to soft fat guys that don't shave
then why doesn't it appeal to me?

>>22038379
I guess you're past the entry level soft fat guy that doesn't shave stuff

>>22037562
No, it's just incels

>>22038762
Can confirm, everyone here is an incel, both the womanhating and simp varieties.

>>22037562
>but are there actually female readers of litrpg?
not really. women's trashy modern slop of choice is stuff like cozy mysteries.

holy fuck this general sucks so much. /litrpgg/ now to save /sffg/, the autism is contagious

>>22039980
nobody wanted this general but that barneyfag guy

>>22037943
>hybrid
What's a hybrid?

>>22037333
just make the cheat weak, most people authors that remove it already passed that a while back

>>22037562
some of the most popular progression lit authors are women

>>22040934
Who and which series?

any well written litrpg/progression novels?

>>22041059
Not that anon, but Worm comes to mind

>>22041095
Delve is decently written. do you mean well written as in "high readability without seeming clumsy or amateurish" or do you mean excellent on the merit of prose alone, like gene wolfe? there's nothing like that in the genre yet

>>22041316
Wildbow's name is John McCrae, friend

>>22041324
>>22041095
Delve is shit. It stopped being good at the barrier arc, then went downhill.
If you want good progression check Dungeon Crawler Carl, Mother of Learning or Infinite Realm.

>>22035531
Based. Better than everything else shilled here, at least it was when I last read it 500 chapters ago, going to have to re-read it

>>22041718
defiance of the fall is much better than infinite realms for that kinda story. also I agree it peaked at barrier arc, and it doesn't sit well with me that the author doesn't quit their day job while racking thousands upon thousands per month on Patreon . dcc is great but the name sucks to the point I'm embarassed to recommend it.

>>22041324
somewhere in between; though i've found one that didn't keep reminding me of being amateurish, and that was cradle, though i havent read many litrpg or progression books yet.
he who fights with monsters was close, too. it started off pretty rough though.

>>22041718
the next 2 i was going to try was the healer one, and dungeon crawler carl. ill try your other recommendations as well. (and delve too)

>>22041991
skip the healer one it's thoroughly mid

>>22041991
>>22041095

>>22041783
DotF has fallen apart as a story and is just the MC wandering around muttering mumbo jumbo at this point.

>>22042150
that's a terrible list. also objectively bad taste aside how do you even get around to all this slockiest-cover-I've-ever-seen trash and you've missed Savage Divinity or he who fights with monsters, I don't even like those but they're objectively way bigger deals in the scene than 90% of these, and those are just examples off the top of my head. this feels like it was made by a grandpa that can only find litrpg through amazon self publishing and has never even visited royalroad

>>22042150
That list is awful.

>>22042224
>you've missed Savage Divinity or he who fights with monsters, I don't even like those but they're objectively way bigger deals in the scene than 90% of these, and those are just examples off the top of my head. this feels like it was made by a grandpa that can only find litrpg through amazon self publishing and has never even visited royalroad
Hilariously inaccurate. I've lived and breathed Litrpg for years. Are you blind? If you take look at this list you will see most of the stories are the most popular ones on RR.

Savage Divinity is
a) not a Litrpg, so it wouldn't be on a list even if I read it
b) it has horrible reviews and no one has ever said a positive thing about it. Literally never seen anyone praise it. Why would I read it then?

As for HWFWM, I read one book and dropped it. Absolutely hated that and would put it Do Not Read tier if at all, but as I read only one book I wasn't comfortable to just put one of the most popular litrpgs in the trash tier. Also, HWFWM cry babies would seethe and scream that I dared to not like their amazing story.

>>22010612
harem lit is stagnating . nothing of value is being produced.
the only authors worth shit now are MSE,arand and KD robertson. mostly because they take time to write books.
and that's about it . every other author from vall to king are just making shit and throwing it at wall. Maybe it stick or it doesn't . no originality,no new ideas.
it's either shifter or superhero .

>>22042656
best harem litrpg? ill do my homework and then singlehandedly bring the subgenre back

>>22042656
What are you talking about, Bruce Sentar is doing good work, his recent Dungeon Diving 101 series not only provides a decent read, but also appears to not suffer from harem creep. His Saving Supervillains in particular is a good story, even if you disregard harem elements. Arand's last work (Save State Superhero) was an utter trash exemplifying all the worst qualities of his writing. His System Overclocked was decent exploration of semi-erotica+sci-fi idea, though. Call Me, Beep Me is a recent funny read. Anya Merchant is bringing fresh air to the genre with maturity and storytelling you can scarcely find even among the best authors. Just look at Castle Town and Domestic Decay (the second is derivative in ideas taking a lot from Worm, but that in itself shows taste).

You are just not looking hard enough.

>>22042696
Randi Darren's Fostering Faust is a great idea that fumbles from the midpoint, but an excellent blueprint for how to write erotica with uncommon elements and characters. His System Overclocked manages to use erotica and harem not as a goal in itself, but tries to make an interesting point as well. Darren's work are flawed, of course, but these two are good enough to emulate.

Aside of that, for a perfect erotica story consider Good Intentions. It gets worse starting with the second book and the third I didn't even read, but the first one in and of itself is great.

Consider Prism Academy in particular, solid interweaving of harem elements with the story.

>>22042785
bruce sentar's only decent work is dragon justice.
as for dungeon diving ,not only does take a serious nosedive when it come to writing (it make suspect he didn't write it himself) but it feel so childish that whenever i read the character dialogue , i instinctively imagine them as 12 year olds.

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mother of learning is good when it's just the hero meandering, exploring the world and bettering himself and learning about people. every call to action and insistence on conventional pacing makes it worse

>>22042785
good reqs, thanks

Flat colour WIP art of one of the main characters in my webnovel, Talisman Mistress Yao Fu. A powerful and infamous master of talisman magic who participated in a major and still ongoing conflict in her homeland. A concerted effort was made to cripple her ability to draw talismans (right hand+wrist and left arm to the elbow), or to use any magic in general (burst dantian/"soul furnace"). Her leg and left eye also got taken out at some point. After fixing herself up as well as she could, she fled to what is effectively the not-middle east to rebuild her strength and lay low.

>>22042841
>bruce sentar's only decent work is dragon justice.
I am still not convinced he didn't just plagiarize Endangered by ltpc. There are SO many similarities, even the name Dragon's Justice is actually the title of one of the chapters of that one...
>as for dungeon diving ,not only does take a serious nosedive when it come to writing (it make suspect he didn't write it himself) but it feel so childish that whenever i read the character dialogue , i instinctively imagine them as 12 year olds.
Yeah, it felt really childish and I found the whole Emperor class thing extremely retarded. At least make it an unlocked class at lvl 10, 50 or whatever. Everything about this screamed instant gratification to me.

>>22040934
that is solely because women in general are hugely overrepresented as authors

>>22043059
it seems to me he's trying to mimic danmachi with some kind big dungeon story, but he just didn't work on a proper mythology and his world building is nonexistent

man, royalroad's algorithm sucks
amelia the op hero keeps showing up even though all the top reviews are negative
can't find any good fictions when basically everything's 4-5 stars regardless of its actual quality

>>22043284
It's a completely fair algorithm, based on a story's actual popularity and readership as well as ratings. Negative ratings, as I recall, have a significantly smaller weight than positive ones, but they still have a net positive impact in terms of algorithm visibility.

Imagine getting one bad review early on and basically getting your story shadowbanned because the algorithm has negative reinforcement for negative ratings. They've been struggling with driveby rating bombers for years now, so there's not a snowball's chance in hell that they will even consider making negative ratings harm your algorithm weighting.

>>22043284
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/67568/a-knight-of-valora-serenity

Do you want to try my book?

>>22043317
My main issue is that having every high ratings on every fiction makes the rating system useless for filtering by quality. It seems the culture on that site is that 5 stars is the default rating, and that anything lower than 4.5 is a bad rating. I would not be surprised if 90% of all rated fictions on the site fell into the 4-5 star range.

>>22043325
lol this is like the exact opposite of what people go on RR to read. You literally have the main character, a knight, begin the story by doing boring paperwork. What the FUCK where you thinking?

>>22043342
Point based rating systems are honestly pretty retarded for this kind of stuff. They should just have number of people that favorited it, number of views, and number of people that finished all current chapters. Then keep the reviews but make it like steam where it's either thumbs up or thumbs down.

>>22043343
Someone was mad I had the MC begin the story with an investigation. I took his advice and it seems to be bad advice . It's not even a litrpg

>>22043325
To be honest, not really. It seems painfully generic. The pitch really doesn't tell me too much about the genre and/or the setting.

>>22043342
This issue is both extremely old and prevalent and by no means exclusive to RR; rating-bloat is everpresent, that's why 7/10 is an average rating for games these days. Various versions of the rating system have been tried over the years and this one has been found to be the least fucked.

>>22043355
This isn't even how it really is
4-5* is the real rating range and many people filter with 4* as the minimum
3-4* is "has serious issues"
anything sub-3* is dogshit

>>22043348
His advice was to make your story start with your main character (A FUCKING KNIGHT) doing paperwork? And you thought it was good idea? lmao

>>22043355
The rating bloat issue is a lot more prominent on RR than normal. Like I mentioned before, I think it's the culture that led to the skewed perception of ratings. I think something like newground assigning each star value an emotion is a simple change that improves rating quality by attempting to establish a baseline.
>>22043346
Yeah, the star rating system isn't necessary by any means, I see plenty of fiction sites without it.

>>22043325
>After her
stopped reading there.
why did you write female character? Is it because of incel reddit crowd and (potential) patreon money? I can accept that, but if not that, as a male why would you write an adventure/action story that features females?

>>22043425
Just a challenge. My other stories are male MCs, so I went with a female MC for this one. I also needed a character that's somewhat incompetent without enraging readers. Nothing worse than an incompetent male.

>>22043388
They're cops. Just called knights. The advice was given because it's a mystery, readers needed to care about who went missing since it directly involved the MC. If it was just some random murder, nobody would give a shit. Which would also work as a start, but I went with paperwork because of the boring peaceful life trope

Guess nobody here will give it a chance. I'll try elsewhere.

>>22043444
>I also needed a character that's somewhat incompetent without enraging readers. Nothing worse than an incompetent male.
Why?
There is no better (main) character than genuinely competent male.

>>22043425
Not that anon, but I write FeMC because I'm into actually strong, confident, and competent women (i.e not the dogshit portrayal woke hollywood gives)

>>22043425
Patreon money? Aren't most top writing patreons male MC? Sure there's some female MC too but I'm pretty sure overall it's not even skewed female, much less "best path to patreon bux".

>>22043519
The top fictions on RR are an almost even split between male and female mc, with a couple percent skew towards male

>>22043456
Watch some noir detective movies. The way to lead into a high profile case is to start with a small seemingly simple one that can quickly establish characters and tone. Then throughout the introductory case you can organically worldbuild and stage foreshadowing, and end it with a hook for the main story.
Also note the usage of narration, which translates easily and naturally to prose. Just the WAY you write something can heavily color the impression it gives. For example you can do paperwork in a couple of interesting ways that dynamically establishes the character:
>blindly rubberstamping through forms
>shoving pile of pointless red tape into the trashcan or overfull filing cabinets
>hurriedly scrawling through forms on a tight deadline
>working extreme overtime over night to meticulously examine everything and diligently make sure it's all perfect
Combine with character voice and emotion
>snarky
>serious
>distracted
>resentful
>depressed
And you've got a scene that while on paper seems boring or unimportant is a major establishing chapter that defines the entire story.

>>22043503
>I'm into
Is that some sort of sexual fantasy? If not why females and not males, what makes females better?
Competent males, those who have historical significance were all adventure, exploration, conquest oriented, it is in competent males blood to go out and conquer new land, while historically significant females had most of the time been passive. Why do you think strong competent female is more interesting than a strong competent male to a male reader who wants (sff) action and adventure?

>>22043541
because i want to see her girlboss through a patriarchal world, idiot

>>22043547
And this is why I don't read female lead stories.

>>22043550
It's your god given right to have bad taste, I know, anon

>>22043325
Eh, I did read the first chapter but I don't think the litrpg crowd is what you should be trying to appeal to with this, maybe /sffg/?

I do get the sense that a lot of world building's been planned especially from the names of all the gadgets, places, swear words, and info dumps, but I personally think there was way too much info dumping.

It feels strange how characters will just use names of stuff that they should already know of in the world and suddenly have a random info dump explaining the role of each random character in battle, or what it means to have mana.

Like I'm a big fan of info dumps, it just feels weird to me to dump it all in literally the first chapter when I don't care about the characters/story/setting yet.

I don't think I'm interested enough to continue reading with this first chapter. I feel like it could've worked better as a flashback chapter whereas the 1st chapter could start with the actual "incident" or problem happening to hook the reader in.

>>22043456
>>22043540
read dresden files, if there's one thing it does well is ramp up action

>>22043541
Firstly, I'm not >>22043547, if that isn't obvious by the dogshit baitpost.

You're really reading too deep into this, anon. It's just what I like to write, it's not as if I don't have hypercompetent, powerful male characters in my stories (pic related).
Would you read this deeply into Roy Thomas's reason for writing Red Sonya? Somehow I doubt it.

>>22043576
its not baitpost im just honest with myself, and you aren't. seeing a female mc girlboss in a world that inherently expects her not to is what's fun about it. provide a real reason you like female mc or you're just in denial

>>22043576
Red Sonja*
>>22043588
Strong lady hot
Simple as

>>22043589
and why is strong lady hot? is it because of the contrast between how women are generally soft, which makes a strong one even more pronounced? you say other anon is overthinking it, i say you're underthinking.

>>22043569
>I don't think I'm interested enough to continue reading with this first chapter. I feel like it could've worked better as a flashback chapter whereas the 1st chapter could start with the actual "incident" or problem happening to hook the reader in
I like this idea. I'll push chapter 1 to chapter 2 and chapter 2 to chapter 1. Or split chapter 1 around the story and see how that works

>>22043604
Just rewrite it to be a litrpg, it's free money

>>22043595
It's definitely not just the contrast with traditionally feminine traits, otherwise I would eat up hollywoke goyslop "stronk femul lead" shit. Traditionally feminine but personally strong women also have an appeal to me.

In the immortal words of Yoko Taro:

>>22043610
based caveman logic
strong woman strong children
unga

>>22043610
What's a traditionally feminine character you like? Read: soft spoken, avoids conflict, empathetic. Girlbossing isn't just punching people, it's having strong wills and getting shit done, which is what I meant by 'not traditionally feminine'.

>>22043628
>What's a traditionally feminine character you like? Read: soft spoken, avoids conflict, empathetic.
Pico

>>22043628
...I explicitly specified "traditionally feminine but personally strong". As in, for example, the protagonist detective's wife who, despite lacking personal physical strength, still acts to support him in various other ways and takes initiative. Another easy example, the typical archetype of a village wise woman - a crotchety grandma that can't do anything approaching combat, but is nonetheless driven, intelligent, and has a massive positive influence on the young, soon-to-be-hero protagonist.

>>22043644
I don't think you know what 'traditionally feminine traits' are.
"Traits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness, supportiveness, gentleness, warmth, passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness, modesty, humility, empathy, affection, tenderness, and being emotional, kind, helpful, devoted, and understanding have been cited as stereotypically feminine."
Acting against this, or being ""personally strong"", (I never meant punching people and muscles, and even said so last post) is girlbossing.
You like girlbossing because of the contrast to traditional/expected femininity.

>>22043657
Whatever makes you feel good I guess, makes no difference to me. Not to what I write nor to what I think of my own preferences.

>>22043672
lol, this is just coming from someone else who likes strong female protags. I'm just pointing out that you're in denial and sound stupid. "Lol I just like them" is retarded and surely you know it is. There's a reason for it, and I've given it to you

>>22043676
Sounds to me like you badly want to get in an argument with someone and make them mad. I'd suggest just going to /wg/ and trying to actually talk about writing, that ought to get you what you're looking for.

>>22043678
honestly I gave a real reason for liking strong female protags and you called it bait, then responded with your own enlightening "just like them lol, don't overthink it". Do some self reflection friend

>>22043678
Do you also read lit with strong female protagonists? How do you self insert as a male? Now of course not everyone self inserts but in a fun action adventure novel most people let themselves go and self insert especially people who primarily read litrpg

>>22043689
NTA, but I always see people talk about 'self insert' and don't really get it. I don't self insert into characters I read, ever. It seems retarded to me. It's just a story. Do you watch movies and self insert into them too?

>>22043689
I read lit with both male and female protagonists of all sorts. I don't self-insert, neither when reading nor when writing. Might be why I don't have the issue so many seem to have of sperging out if the protagonist isn't a generic nobody blank slate.

>>22043696
Same, I don't get it either. It feels to me like the same mental divide as people who have a mental breakdown whenever someone makes an mmo character that doesn't look like themselves.

>>22043696
reading gives a lot more immersion into the story and characters than movies

>>22043699
>issue so many seem to have of sperging out if the protagonist isn't a generic nobody blank slate.
quite the opposite, a reader cannot self insert into such character, character has to be relatable in some ways, iq, competence, correct gender, bland sexless tranny is impossible to self insert except for irl bland sexless trannies

>>22043722
retard
taking my post overly literally again
when I said generic blank slate i meant something like picrel

Honestly, the more I've ruminated over litRPGs, the more tempted I am to write one. It'll be like every other litRPG, with the sole gimmick being that I will write it with a theme in mind, like "we must destroy the China and the Chinese race". The idea will be subtle, yet present at first, such as every character who commits the most morally abhorrent acts being some kind of racial allusion to the Chinese, but I'll gradually ramp it up, doing things like drawing on classical Chinese literature, only to twist it in the most unflattering way possible, to creating a race with zero redeeming qualities who will be the stand-in for the Chinese. Eventually, I will escalate to the point where the main character begins his ethnic cleansing campaign, spouting parodies of actual Chinese slogans as he murders members of the stand-in race. So that, ideally, on multiple levels, you could find a core of anti-Sinicism that is gradually being revealed as the chapters go on.

The only reason for this idea's tantalizing nature is that I want to see how long it would take for my readers to realize the anti-Chinese sentiment, which would only get blatant in Chapter 400 or so. Then, when someone finally brings up this core idea of "Total China Elimination", I'll respond to them in Chinese and refuse to elaborate further.

>>22043862
You mean like D&D did with orcs?

>>22043862
Unironically based, do it
And odds are they probably won't realize it unless you explicitly, straightforwardly refer to china or chinese people
If you use paperthin fantasy stand-ins, 99% of your readers won't notice and will in fact be completely onboard
source: I've done this and know other WN writers who've done it, though not always with china

>>22043862
I want to do this but tr*nnies

>>22043874
wouldn't happen to involve a cyberpunk serial killer with an ultra-high-penetration handgun, right?

>>22043877
No, an anti-natal gnostic cult steeped in alchemical traditions.

>>22043879
also good
you better include some gnostics not in that cult

>>22043862
That's basically what this got cancelled for, and the anime it was going to have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life%2B:_Young_Again_in_Another_World

>>22044201
>Japanese
There's your problem
he's a pussy conformist jap who bent under "le cancelled"

>>22044209
It's not like a person has a choice when their employer fires them. You know you're extremely online when you think cancelled means only one thing and the person has any choice in the matter.

>>22010612
/a/ here, new to /LitRPG/, what can i expect from the series above. Seems as good as isekai

>>22043862
This is /litrpg/, not sure why you are bringing up Chinese here.

>>22044481
china is where I get my stories from!

>>22044397
go to >>22040654

this is a fake general made by 1 mad retard bc we were talking about books he doesnt like, the whole chart in the op is trash goyslop

>>22042161
wrong, the psychobabble is the best part

>>22044201
>A number of commentators on Twitter claimed that the series depicts the protagonist as having taken part in the Second Sino-Japanese War, where he killed 3,000 people with a katana, later going on to kill another 2,000 after the war.
Never read the thing, but is it true the protagkun was originally a WW2 war criminal? That's pretty hilarious.

The new gold standard of progression fantasy.

>>22047054
only among the reddit crowd

>>22047299
it's the best progression fantasy of all times ,and you know it.
Embrace the truth,be free.

>>22047324
>redditor detected.

>>22047324
How's the prose? Sell me on it

>>22047369
Who are you quoting?

>>22047373
not a quote but a 4chan security alert about redditor on the loose

>>22047425
isn't this a reddit general on a reddit board on a reddit website

>>22047455
no this is 4chan

>>22047456
exactly

>>22047456
>>22047457
>this is 4chan !

>>22047480
ops, sorry.

>this is 4chan!

>>22047480

>>>/vg/429688447
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1279
Who Framed /aa2g/? Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases
Anon's Modded Pre-Install: https://pastebin.com/42JS3q6E

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

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>>>/vg/428858839

>>22047456
>no this is 4chan
4channel is clearly reddit 2.0

>>22010612
I'm just going to start bullying authors that lie about when they are going to release the next book. I'm going to do nothing but post negative comments on Aleron Kong's discord, Twitter, emails, ect. I want him to wake up everyday and be reminded of his lies. I will not stop until he physically shakes and eventually deletes every social media account he has.
That aside I'm new to this board and need new recommendations. I've gone through The defiance of the fall, the Land, and dungeon crawler carl.

>>22047710

>>22047710
But 4chan was good before reddit was bad.

>>22048305
>>22042150

>>22043342
some guy scraped RR and did the math, the average score is 4.38, and yes, most series are above a 4.
https://cosmiccoding.com.au/tutorials/royalroad/

>>22049218
It's common in all such rating systems. People only rate when they really like something or really hate it, when something is just average people aren't bothered to spend the time to give a rating. So the stats are all skewed towards 5 or 1. I would be curious to see if the low end of that graph showed that.

>>22043862
Then write one pussy.

>>22049382
I downloaded the data to check, and that's not really the case. There's a whole lot of entries with a score of zero, but that's because that's the default if there's no ratings. if you filter them out it's not bimodal, just the skew to 4.4

does this ever get good?

i've found that 5 stars is not enough to properly differentiate books. even 6 would be great, but that's ILLEGAL

>>22050174
Makes a kind of sense. No one is going say, "I read 500 chapters and hated it, 1 star". Instead they'll drop it after a chapter or two and move on.

>>22050316
Ratings shouldn't be numerical but follow the adventurer's guild model with F to SSS grade, really.

>>22050316
Use out of 100 then as some places do

>>22050729
That's just obfuscating numbers.

>>22050174
Surely there are far more stories on there than that.

>>22047373
>asking about prose
Literally irrelevant apparently

>>22011392
It's upsetting how creatives can't be consistent in general.

>>22050298
No, none of any of this does.

>>22048561
No.

>>22043576
>it's not as if I don't have hypercompetent, powerful male characters in my stories (pic related).
I doubt it