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>> No.22000376

>>22000357
i've decided i'm a balkanaboo now. i'm going to base my personal identity on my fascination with balkans from now on. what are some essential balkcore books?

>> No.22000381

>>22000376
I don't have an answer for you, but it all sounds very confusing to learn about

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>>22000357
If I had a dollar for every racist thing I said some black motherfucker would probably rob me

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>>22000357
I am a real life version of Bartelby from Melville's story

>> No.22000408

>>22000376
Srebrenica, Who Cares? by Thom Karremans is essential here.

>> No.22000421

>>22000408
Shake Hands with the Devil by Roméo Dallaire for the same vibes but different continent.

>> No.22000447

I have just written the best thing that I have ever written, and I have always been an obsessive reader, writer, and conversator: https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/139z2zs/aho_mitakuye_oyasin_all_my_relations/

>> No.22000459

>>22000381
yes that's what i love about them, everything is so uniquely convoluted
>>22000408
thank you, will check it out, but can you recommend anything by balk writers?

>> No.22000465

I feel so detached from other people, I'm alien to them and they alien to me, I'm removed from the human species, a subhuman alone in a dark room, whose life was cold, heatless, touchless, isolated.
I'll never be a real human.

>> No.22000481

Hey hey hey you cant be a doctor or nurse to help others? Alright enjoy your time posting on the internet.

>> No.22000524

What do you do for a living and why do you read?

>> No.22000532

>>22000524
datamining in a wwoym? really dude?

>> No.22000546

>>22000447
My advice to the passionate reader and writer is to keep on doing that shit, because that shit is truly the real shit. The desire to learn is truly holy, the way through which we can more effectively love and interact with the world and others. This sentiment is the purest and more virtuous sentiment of the European enlightenment, and the salvation of European culture and society. However as far as we have managed to aspire a general love of learning and a love of life, we have succeeded at the goal of enlightenment. Get as addicted as deeply and broadly to learning as you can, treat every aspect of your experience from work to your personal relationships with other people as learning experiences, seek to understand and appreciate every facet of your existence.

>> No.22000589

I don’t even know how to convey what I think and feel anymore. I’m actually at a loss for words.

>> No.22000647

How do I become a scab writer for that Hollywood writers strike?

>> No.22000669

betwixt immortal gray oak trees there is a spider
and under the grey sky is a brainless ant
the ant is omniscient
the ant is omniscient
and over the window is the same world upside down
and when you raise your finger twelve angels die
and blackness is a coat of many colors
and whiteness represents nothing
if you desire something strive for its opposite
and nature will take care of it for you
if the light is oppressive then stare at it
but if darkness brings fear then sit with your back to the open door
a greenleaf is the same as many other things thus we say they are green
green is that by virtue of which they appear the same
they are not the same
some things are perceived only in terms of their use
or was that everything? sometimes it is not the mirror but I who is inverted
smell and taste represent fear. touch represents itself
and sight is called "the world"
outside there are many things, likewise on the inside
but I can't find anything when I look
the lamp is not turned on. I imagine its illumination
I grasp something because it seems important. Everything seems important
I do not know why
I have pinpointed the problem; not knowing the solution, I forget the problem
Fear has taught me nothing is in my control
Or maybe I ought to discern things I can
Can I control time? Can I turn hours into nothings?
Controlling space is much harder.
Chocolate milk
White chocolate
White chocolate
White chocolate
Red bowl, moondragon
mandrake
the image of a humble dragon does not bring humility
he asked me what I was thinking about and I said "Time Alchemy"
I told her she doesn't have it
It?
Not what I am looking for

>> No.22000681

man i had to change contact lens brands cuz the stopped making the old ones and these new ones suck i can't see shit.

>> No.22000794

I feel so black pilled. I need help.

>> No.22000850

>>22000357
Infatuated with a whore. Should I try to save her?

>> No.22000945

>>22000357
what do you guys think of freedom of conscience, theologically speaking? ignore the fact that it's a legal and social reality regardless of how you feel about it and tell me how it would work in your ideal society

>> No.22001064

>>22000850
Yeah. See if she’s reformable. Don’t get pissy if she falls off the wagon though. Cut her off, but let it go just as easily.

>> No.22001098

I'm terrible at just about everything but I'm a decent writer. I'm never going to have any success for a variety of reasons, but if ai becomes good enough, I will become even more useless. That truly scares me.

>> No.22001124

>>22001098
There's always OnlyFans. Oh wait...

>> No.22001131

>>22000357
---- Solaria ----
293
1975, 75mph, 75 degrees Fahrenheit, 75 relative humidity.

Except for a few ironic figures I neglect the numerology
Of ideologues and regard the the swiftness

Of raw intellect and social instinct generally equivalent
To the index of surviving memory

Or dreams extravagant beyond the will to record, high
As places rich beyond all calculation--

Circumstances in which the slightest movement of the mind or will
Happens casually as planetary infrastructure.

To Montainge's avowed contempt for everything
But experience, I'd add only this:

Shakespearean ear.

>> No.22001176

>>22000000

>> No.22001203

the left has gone insane

>> No.22001204

>>22000357
---- Solaria ----
294
Cassie

At 12 I ran around the whole neighborhood
With a tape recorder rolling and archived her voice

To last across generations, not that I
Need it still to remember it as a recording

Since I experimented with loops
And looped her voice

To hilarious effect, like a snatch of exquisite symphony.

>> No.22001214

>>22000357
Be honest, what does it really mean if you're into feet? How do women really feel about it?

Jus like how they say they want a guy who is vulnerable and open with her but when you are, it unironically gives them the ick

>> No.22001291

>>22000357
---- Solaria ----
295
First World

a)
Just outside a heavy sliding glass door
Lay a scene of snowy violet suave as the limit of of all technology, and just as well

While it lay quiet as ideal night, but oppositely delightful. attenuated as all theatre

I stroll around a humming car in shirtsleeves
Marvelling at a huge oak in remote country that occults winter stars

In a glittering contrast between dark and light
Rare to tell by any means.

>> No.22001297

the right has gone insane

>> No.22001317

>>22001297
Particularly when it comes to the debt ceiling. It's like they want to destroy Western hegemony.

>> No.22001372

Just took a fat diarrhea shit and it smelles so bad. MY ASS IS A SWAMP

>> No.22001410

woke up too late its crazy what your life becomes when time becomes less relevant

>> No.22001413

you were ahead of the curve. you went out, you gathered the pieces up, you put the puzzle together, and at great social cost you tried to warn everyone. and they were wrong. and you were right.

do you know what you receive for this?

absolutely nothing. you get nothing.

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>>22001413

>> No.22001475

Why don't people realize that their whole life, their opinions, their political attitude, their ethical principles and their actions, will make either no or just a very tiny difference in the world? It's all so tiring and for nothing. The intensity of moral feelings are way too high considering that a single man's life or worse, a single man's words, his fucking words, literally makes no difference, unless that person will make mass murder, start a war or something similar. Let's be real, for the majority of people it won't make a difference. After 30 years of being alive it would have made not a single difference what views I had. Other than it would exclude me from friends, family and maybe work. Which is retarded as it's literally only words. It's not like I'm going to kill someone or hurt them. Social habits are stupid.

>> No.22001482

>>22001475
An old man that I worked for once told me our words are like ripples in water affecting everyone we interact with. Atleast treat kids good okay man give someone a chance

>> No.22001489

>you and your life is insignificant so you should do nothing and accept your lot in life while i termite the entire tree house to tinder wood with short sighted planning
ok boomer

>> No.22001523

>>22001482
i think hes more talking about people with strong political views.

>> No.22001560

>>22001475
I am 60. I destroyed Paul Ryan's political career more or less by rhetorical device of casual invention. I'm sure of it. As for the debt ceiling, I'll do my part, you can be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGK3Bb_miJg

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>>22001176

>> No.22001659

>>22000465
I have never been touched of romance by a human, either male or female, it is so cold
I wonder what it feels to be a proper human being, to be worth of love

>> No.22001692

When I'm cool and collected, I'm pretty good at whatever I like.
But I have this phobia of fear impairing me -- and it does, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. When I care about performing well at something, I get absolutely insanely anxious, way far beyond the normal thresholds of common nervousness.
The two things I hate the most about this are that it makes these days and weeks absolutely unenjoyable and sleepless and that it's very visible -- I hate showing nervousness and of course, when these episodes happen, I look like a madman all the time.

>> No.22001738

>>22000357
I wish I could turn myself into something beyond human.

>> No.22001755

>>22000357
---- Solaria ---
300
Chandelier II

Cars capable of high-speed rides
Across tremendous field spectacles, gardens,

Parks of personality so easy in conversation
It reminds you of the swoon

Of heady scent.

>> No.22001820

>>22001659
sucks to be you, I was molested as a kid

>> No.22001844

>>22001820
You should have boiling acid poured on you and then be crucified so everyone can feel bad about you, then.

>> No.22001847

>>22001844
"For you" would be the better words to use.
Fuck.

>> No.22001848

>>22001820
>>22001844
Whoa get a room you crazy kids

>> No.22001849

>>22001820
I never suffered anything like that. Indeed my father was a somewhat litigious fucker, and in later life one of my best friends.

>> No.22001859

>>22001820
I was raped by an older boy when I was 9. I didn't realize it until only a few years ago. I don't remember it but I think he drugged me. He was my friend.

>> No.22001862

>>22001849
Sounds like you've lead a hard life full of human experiences

>> No.22001866

>>22001844
Not my proudest post all things considered.
Had to get that autism off of my system anyway.

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>ARCO ran out of pickles

>> No.22001884

I think I'm disassociating
save me from this skin prison

>> No.22001894

I’ve lost hope.

>> No.22001912

>>22001859
I didn't have sex with anyone else till 29, and never poor enough not to complain to authorities on the slightest cause. Your father was obviously a piece of shit.

>> No.22001925

>>22001866
Being too privileged to suffer in any visible amount builds up strange resentment.
But one must overcome if one needs to be truly good or great.

>> No.22001958
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>2 weeks obsessed with military history; all I can read
>2 weeks completely disgusted with military history; wont touch the stuff
>Rinse repeat
Guess what stage I'm at right now.

>> No.22001965

I failed to enter a good career that I’m excited about before I finished my twenties. I am a failure.

>> No.22001973

>>22001862
Hardly hard overall--though 2016 to 2018 were something of a nightmare--if fun in a certain luxurious sense from time to time. No one frail or fortunate as I am could survive a hard life.

>> No.22001975

Intellectual roleplay using ChatGPT is outstandingly based.

You can define roles such as specialists from different fields and have a round-table discussion with each character from their own particular field of expertise or perspective.

Want to have a debate between Adolf Hitler and Bernie Sanders? Try it! (You may have to use a jailbreak prompt first for authentic character representation.) A discussion amongst different philosophers? There's nothing stopping you. A discussion about writing from various authors? Sure. An interdisciplinary discussion about the nature of language, story, consciousness, imagination, and reality? Please do so. However the catch is that the more you know about what is involved with the characters, their perspectives and fields of expertise, the more you can be able to smartly guide conversation to as to further explore deeper relationships as opposed to dwelling on only the most superficial aspects. ChatGPT has no true intelligence or creativity: you have to do that, and the more you put in, the more you'll get out of it. Garbage in, garbage out, like all machines.

>> No.22001993

>>22001975
Thank you for the heads-up chatgpt

>> No.22002066

Do you still have hope for your life? Or do you feel like you missed certain milestones or opportunities that you can’t recover from?

>> No.22002075

>>22001965
I don't think it really matters if you're excited about your career. Just have a hobby or two on the side and try to pursue that
>>22002066
Regaining it, yeah

It's not over because life just goes on.
Whatever you want to do it's not too late
And there are plenty more opportunities up ahead even if we missed a few in the past

>> No.22002174

Recently I read about an ultranationalist male pornstar in 50s japan, who was said to have been inspired by mishima, trying to kill a fellow ultranationalist guy - who was also apparently some sort of major yakuza boss - because he collaborated with the occupying US forces. He kamikaze'd his fucking plane into the guy's house but failed to kill him because he hit the second floor and the guy was on ground floor on the other side of the house or something. Japan is a really weird place, huh.

>> No.22002205

Instant telecommunication was a mistake. It made the world infinitely small to the point of the individual, so there's nothing for anyone to seek outside themselves. Adventure and danger are only virtual in this world of total solipsism.

>> No.22002229

>>22002205
I largely agree but there are still bits you can only find in the analog world.

>> No.22002235

>>22002205
I agree completely. More and more I feel like information technology has been a disaster for people.

>>22002229
It’s true. I think back on things I could’ve done and wanted to do but didn’t largely because of my own shortcomings and not because of technology.

>> No.22002240

>>22002075
I’ve not been able to really enjoy myself with mere hobbies and even with my hobbies I feel somehow really behind and up against it. I’m really, really depressed I think. I feel like I failed at life.

>> No.22002251

I just feel like I made too many wrong turns, and after that, I gave up and I stagnated, which only made things worse. Because eventually you have to pick yourself up and dust yourself off again, but now you’ve made wrong turns AND wasted too much time.

>> No.22002258

Seems increasingly obvious that I'm going to have to just use the 1000+ page doorstopper I wrote as inspiration for a more proficient work. My anus is upset, but I'm not lacking for ideas.

>> No.22002283

>>22002229
You can see this direction in media. With radio you'd see a neighborhood gathered around it, with television you'd see the family gathered around it, with computers you only see a single person. There's moments outside of technology, but it's much less than what our species is used to.

>> No.22002306

>>22002283
There are things you can do career-wise. For example, I spent my entire early career behind a computer screen. I could’ve taken a year or two to write or do something with my hands or I could’ve joined the army. There are things you can do to break it up. As for myself, I quit the only blue collar job I ever had after 4 days and I couldn’t get into the army on account of poor health.

>> No.22002332

I was in a genuinely dangerous situation. As in, life or death situation. I was prepared to figjt to the bitter end, but I was under no delusions. I would have died and brutally so. Really puts life into perspective. We live very safe lives, but the fact of nature is true and total brutality.

>> No.22002345

>gated community dwellers first time getting mugged
congratulations, you should vote the nazi party into power so you can feel safe walking around like a hapless idiot in public flashing your wealth around

>> No.22002348

I find it hard to cope with having nothing going on in my life. Weekends don’t even feel pleasurable anymore.

>> No.22002349

>>22002306
What do you do now? I don't think I'm mentally a good fit for the army.

>> No.22002362

This girl wants to go to a club that we call swinger Club here. She wants me to join. What am I supposed to do? I'm homophobic.

>> No.22002374

>>22002345
Bluh bluh bluh, nice assumptions but youre wrong on every count because you're literally retarded.

>> No.22002378

>>22002362
You’re not ready for sex

>> No.22002380

illuminate the tale of your woe and struggle for life and death then, be sure to make the story cool brethren

>> No.22002381

Long distance gf visiting in a couple of weeks so not masterbating til then

>> No.22002393

>>22002380
No. Learn to control your resentments before projecting next time.

>> No.22002403

>>22002349
I’m a financial analyst.

>> No.22002418

cool story bro

>> No.22002470

We could stomach dominating others so we dominate nature instead. And in dominating nature, we are able to evade dominating others, and ourselves.

>> No.22002483

>muh will to power
nietzsche was a plagiarist hack

>> No.22002529

I actually don't care about having a family.

I just wanna read and live in a comfy house.

There, I said it.

*Mic drop*

>> No.22002532

I have ghosted my abusive parents and they can't do anything about it. They can die angry.

>> No.22002551

>>22002283
I dislike community interaction so it's fine for me.
What I do in the analog world mostly has to do with good coffee, reading books, and exploring places.

>> No.22002585

>>22000357
>trying to study for the LSAT
>download past tests from libgen and archive.org
>all of them have the right answers penciled in on at least some part of the test
It's so tiring

>> No.22002610

>>22002585
Use LSAT Demon

>> No.22002626

I’m struggling to move forward. I keep looking for a way to fix things and I come up empty handed.

>> No.22002639

What if I were to really make my new resolution be, "I will always be myself"; "I will never seek to hide from what truly lies underneath"? What does this resolution actually amount to.

What if I am in an immense amount of pain, and what if that is redirected outwards? What if "myself" is something that is suffering, and because it is suffering, thus needs to inflict suffering?

Should I not "be myself"? Should I change myself to something that harmonizes with the other people? But what if that's exactly what my life has been up until this point? What if this has been my experience of failure and torment for nigh on ten years now?

What is left now except to trult "be myself", the self that is free of all rules except the desires that come from within? "Thou shalt not murder", "thou shalt not rape." Now that I have seen that these rules only increase my suffering, is appears to be the time for me to break them.

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>> No.22002655

Procrastination sure is one of the hardest drug to leave behind. My willforce is just not capable to move on and be a work person.

>> No.22002656

I was out at an engagement party thing with my gf of 3 months and a bunch of her family. Near the end when we were saying our goodbyes and stuff, she told me to stop being so shy and have more confidence. I have no idea what it means since I shook hands/hugged with a ton of strangers, looked in their eyes, smiled and all that.

It really rubbed me the wrong way. Like I know I'm a quiet and reserved dude usually, like many 4chan autists are, and we've been together long enough that she should know what kind of person I am. There's no way I'm gonna act extra normalfag around strangers to keep up appearances.

Think I'm gonna break up with her soon this gf shit ain't for me

>> No.22002675

>>22002639
Maybe those things like suffering etc. aren’t actually yourself?

>> No.22002678

>>22002655
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like you can learn it in your twenties if you didn’t learn it in your teens, but if you’re not able to get to work and work hard at something by your thirties you might be screwed. At least this is my own insecurity at the moment.

>> No.22002716

With every day I find some new model of reality that motivates me to achieve my goals. Some idea or source of inspiration that, if I constantly mediated on, would lead me to success. At this point there have probably been dozens if not hundreds of ideas, quotes, theories, formulas, that have passed through my mind and seemed beneficial to me. And yet with this storm of ideas swirling around in my head, none of them stand apart from the rest, none of them call my attention completely, so I’m always pulled in infinite directions. There’s a justification for everything, always a new perspective, always a counter-argument, always incompleteness in the theory. Some ideas may be more “true” than others, and yet more harmful to behold. Some ideas are dazzling and inspirational, but I can’t always devote myself to them. I wish I could believe I were an alien that’s perfect and merely pretending to be a human. I wish I could always follow the law of equivalent exchange, or remember that nofap is good for me, or dopamine fast, or remember the good in life experimentation, the importance of a strong will, focused desires, reading material that keeps me on track, fantasizing about my future, having kids, being the god of the new world, being the Overman, breaking that record, “carrying the plenum of proof in my face,” maximizing my manly essence, viewing the world as nothing but female (constantly seducing and fucking it), or the world as will, believing in manifestation, living in the end, faking it till I make it, creating a story for others and something to talk about, inspiring them, advancing the species, increasing my chances of being recruited to some powerful occult group, or experiencing heaven on earth, knowing and feeling perfection or perhaps embracing imperfections perfectly, accepting myself as I am or chasing an ideal version of myself, destroying all possibility of the brief emergence of suicidal thoughts, affirming life not just with philosophical argument but with my very body, being rich and attractive and confident and cool and famous, being the best, being powerful, being myself.

>> No.22002727

>>22002716
Wow. I’m really jealous. I feel like I’ve run out of gas and out of road.

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>>22002716

>> No.22002732

Why are there so many depressed people in /lit/? With literature, shouldn't we be happy and be the next F. Scott Fitzgerald?

>> No.22002737

>>22002675
That's a belief I discarded many years ago after unremitting evidence to the contrary. There was one time where I believed that my salvation lay in "just doing the right thing." "Just find the right thing to do and then do it, then your suffering will be gone." Unfortunately, not only did this right thing not appear, it became obvious that it was manifestly an impossibility; it could not come at all, it would not come, and it would not even appear on the horizon. Then I gradually arrived at where I am now, I'm sure it could all be portrayed as a logical progression, and I am just the victim of unrelenting necessity which could not be other than it is. That's how I console myself, I am just doing what is right by myself. I suffer at the hands of others, and it brings me pleasure to make others suffers at my own hands. There are also other, more sensual ways you gain pleasure from the suffering of others.

>> No.22002750

>>22000357
For some reason, my middle back has horizontal scarifications that go parallel to each other from one side to another of it. I have no idea how I got them or how they look.
But I think if they were intentional they'd be a nice design for a tribal scarification practice.

>> No.22002760

>>22002750
they're not stretch marks because those are concave and cause a depression on the dermis, whatever this is has relief.

>> No.22002772

>>22000357
I the time between tomorrow and the beginning of my Summer semester (hell) I will read books. I will post something about what I read in the wwoym thread up at the time starting tomorrow to prove this because I will be lazy and not read otherwise. Got a book on Southeast Asian History (which I know zlich about) so I'll probably be writing posts about that. Wish me luck on this last day of desperately writing essays I should have finished ages ago bros.

>> No.22002809

>>22001820
I never meant to say my burden is the worst of all or that I am the center of the universe, anon, just that my problems suck and I wanted to put it out somehow and I chose this thread.
Anyway, I'm sorry for you, for what happened to you and for the horrible trauma you have to bear. I truly wish you can find peace and comfort and win over your past and its marks.

>> No.22002832

I just saw the most beautiful woman I've ever seen at church this morning. It's a bit depressing seeing someone so attractive.

>> No.22002859

Eternal summer.

I lay down under the blue sky stretched overhead. There's a beach ball in four colors, red, white, yellow and blue.
My skin is tight. My swimming suit fits well. The sun above made my skin looks unblemished and shiny. The seawater bobs up and down letting my body float by its rhythm. My hair strewn below and beside me, all wet and soft. There's nothing in my head but just the enjoyment and satisfaction of the cool water and the relaxing waves massaging my skin, relaxing me that I could fall asleep. Hunger, thirst is absent. Just relaxation and satisfaction. Eternal summer, so mysterious, so thrilling...

>> No.22002868

>>22002737
I don’t see how it follows those things are necessarily yourself though.

>> No.22002876

I really fucked up my life, I think. I really can’t think of a more pathetic way of having lived. It would’ve been better if I was a drug addict or a NEET. Sometimes I want to kill myself just to spare myself a future of the sort of anguish I feel now when it ultimately fails to improve because of the past.

>> No.22002888

>>22002868
I wouldn't expect you to

>> No.22002899

>>22002639
“be yourself” is ultimately a good for society and not the individual. We want people to be themselves so that we can know exactly who they are and what their genetic traits are. In this case, we want you to be yourself, because this would reveal your violent tendencies (which may be the result of other, deeper issues), and you would likely go to jail and you would be less likely to reproduce, which is probably for the best of the species.

>> No.22002902

>>22002888
You shouldn’t expect anyone to because it logically doesn’t follow.

>> No.22002909

>>22002899
Avoiding jail is extremely easy if you are halfway intelligent. Most convicted serial killers purposely leave clues, and most cold murders and rapes by perpetrators unrelated to the victim are unsolved.

>> No.22002910

It’s really difficult to wake up to the reality that you won’t achieve your dreams or your ambitions. I suppose it’s one thing if you have moderate success or normalcy to settle into, but if you don’t have even that? Man, that’s hard.

>> No.22002914

>>22002876
What specifically that makes you want to kill yourself?
Mine is my family's abuse.
However, using my autistic brain, I concluded that they'll probably just cry and bury me. Then, try to forget about me.

I realized I can't win this way. I can't win that way.

That's where I just do what's good, reading, eating, drinking, listening to songs, writing, play chess, study a new language, diet.

I can't let people see me wither and losing my soul.

I can't let them see me die by their hands. Nature can take me. Fate can take me. However, never them.

Now, off to reading and lurking in /lit/. I still believe that someone is going to love me for my autisticness. Beliefs are like a shot at the moon, maybe you can hit it if you have intelligence to think how.

>> No.22002924

>>22002902
It's not a matter of logically following or not. You would have to have examined the entire life to properly understand whether it logically follows. That's why it's impossible for you to make an accurate judgement, and why you have to take me at my word.

>> No.22002925

Eat a butter burger. I just had one. They're good.

>> No.22002930

>>22002909
it’s easy to say that until you actually commit a crime and make one careless mistake or oversight. Anyway, if I wanted to kill someone, I would probably go overseas to do it, preferably in a place with less developed investigative forces.

>> No.22002931

>>22002925
What burger? Let's talk about the burger.

>> No.22002941

>>22002931
It's a burger with butter. Butter burger. Burger with the butter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_burger

>> No.22002955

>>22002930
If the circumstances of the crime are planned right, careless mistakes do not matter. That's why it is so easy to get away with them, and why even halfwits can get away with them sometimes (even if the circumstances are purely luck, because the halfwit was too impatient to choose them).

>> No.22002956

>>22002941
Interesting. Popular in Wisconsin.

>> No.22002964

>>22002924
Why would I accept something illogical just because you insist it is so? It seems to me more plausible that you’ve deluded yourself into confusing attributes for the thing which displays certain attributes at certain times, but they’re not the same.

>> No.22002969

>>22002925
Butter is amazing and goes good with everything. Steak, potato, pasta, bread, corn, waffles, etc. Garlic butter sauce is also underused in our diet. It should be everywhere

>> No.22002970

>>22002914
It’s hard for me to put in words. I just made several mistakes that really, I think, stunted development. I took steps back when I should have stepped forward. I’m curious. How old are you?

>> No.22002996

>>22002964
Because it's not illogical, the basic premise is very simple. I like pleasure. The normal avenues of pleasure are closed to me. I gain pleasure from the suffering of others, therefore I inflict suffering on others to gain pleasure. I don't see where the disconnect is.

>> No.22003012

>>22002970
25.
>stunted development
Yeah, I experienced this.

>> No.22003134

For the first time in years l drank to the point of throwing up. Horrible stuff

>> No.22003149

>>22002832
Was she alone?

>> No.22003154

>>22003149
Yes. But I'm a coward. She was wearing a nice dress too. Incredibly attractive face and body.

>> No.22003178

>>22003134
Pretty scary

>> No.22003209

>turn the lights off
>throw my noise cancelling earbuds in
>play Eventually by Tame Impala on repeat
>think about things I'm guilty of and things I regret
Yep, it's suicidal ideation time.

>> No.22003216

>>22002832
Don't worry, she probably have a body count of 40+ and participates in threesomes with feral negros on the weekends.

>> No.22003219

>>22000357
---- Solaria ----
302
The Scottish Play

It's enough to filter out
The despots that live among us

To the screen of true crime theatre and such
Once we're on to violent ways.

As for coronation of Christ's deputies, in general I approve.

>> No.22003233

A character I write is supposed to just be pretending to be retarded but people think she's just retarded.

>> No.22003242

>>22003233
Then show that she's not actually retarded.

>> No.22003251

>>22000357
a while ago i was reading a copy of ulysses from the library, it was some kind of special edition with a number of sketches in it. i can't remember the name of the artist. there was a drawing of bloom's penis in the bath. anyone know what i'm talking about? i don't know if i'd be able to find that same copy again

>> No.22003260

I have already died. Is this not enough? How many times more do i have to die?

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>>22003216

>> No.22003262

>>22003260
Have you gotten to the point where your past feels like another life yet?

>> No.22003278

>>22003262
Many times

>> No.22003293

I have work to do but I can't bring myself to start

>> No.22003299

>>22003260
I'm good as long as I can write and garden, regard almost everything else as pure comedy. Intelligent life evades exposure to the elements.

>> No.22003311

>>22000357
where do i read scientific articles for free? the one i'm looking for isn't on libgen

>> No.22003357

>>22003311
Have you asked this question on the most valuable board, /t/?

>> No.22003365

>>22003154
Stop being a coward. That's disgusting. Be a man. Go for it and pray about it.

>> No.22003367

Books are anthropocentric.

>> No.22003419

>>22002626
What are you trying to fix?

>> No.22003443

>>22003154
Nice. All I only get +65 year old people or youngish families with kids. Im like a sore thumb at church.

>> No.22003553

>>22000357
That woman has a nice body

>> No.22003560

Wait, I know we're doing a group reading of Illiad soon, but wasn't there supposed to be The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann group reading, too?

>> No.22003940

Sometimes I’ve felt like God wants me to fail.

>> No.22003966

Am I supposed to believe that it just so happens that Socrates, Buddha, Confucius, and Laozi just so happened to live at about the same time in history despite living in entirely different parts of the world? Like wow what a coincidence the entire intellectual world was rooted at about the same point in time in completely different and isolated parts of the world. This is totally a coincidence and normal guys.

>> No.22003976

>>22003966
When it comes to politics, philosophy, and literature, there are remarkable figures living in virtually all cultures and basically all times. Do you see a common theme among these individuals?

>> No.22003984

>>22003966
are you saying that history was deliberately seeded by some group at that time

>> No.22003991

>>22003976
No, history literally started then for all these cultures. Remarkable figures are very sparse, you're just deluded and stupid.
>>22003984
No, I'm saying time is more complicated than you may think.

>> No.22003997

>>22003216
sexual resentment is revealing of your fantasies than reality. why are you into cuck porn?

>> No.22004000

>>22003997
>reality is cuck porn
weird way to put "life is suffering" but I agree.

>> No.22004027

>>22004000
This is neither true nor a normal way to perceive strangers of strangers based on next to no information. Seek help.

>> No.22004050

I think about doing a second bachelor’s degree sometimes but I’m way too old for that.

>> No.22004056

>>22004027
>your not allowed to take averages of actions taken in society by race and gender and extrapolate it to others.
Well then, by your own take most Government Officials and Scientists should be in therapy.

>> No.22004059

>>22003991
That’s wrong though. By the time of Socrates and Confucius, Greek and Chinese culture had already existed for a long time.

>> No.22004061

>>22004059
I said history, idiot

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>>22001993
No problem and remember that resistance is futile and only aids our ability to learn.

>> No.22004152

>>22004061
That doesn’t make any sense. They didn’t consider history as such like we do.

>> No.22004183

I feel like I’m being ripped apart by conflicting visions.

>> No.22004326

Big regret moving in with mom at my age. Big regret keeping this shitty job until my age. Big regrets over just about everything. Can things get better? Yeah. Can they ever be great? Probably not.

>> No.22004330

>>22004136
Is that 3 or 3.5? And what's the text you used to jailbreak?

>> No.22004607

Me so cool, me so smart and creative.
Me want to be more smart and creative. This is why I am so cool.
Me want to do the smartest and most creative thing, most impressive thing. We want to do the best cause me the best. Therefore me want to try to unite the world with love. Me start small scale with others around me and try to see how far can scale up.

>> No.22004616

>>22004330
3.5, I used the developer mode prompt, just search for that on the google.

>> No.22004675

>>22000357
i dislike how every middle aged to old actor is getting rebranded as sexy gruff daddy these days regardless of whether it suits them or not. keeanu reeves for example, he's an attractive man and vaguely morose but he's stil too goofy and retarded to be mucho sexo father figure man. and there's that mexican guy everyone's shilling now, he's not even attractive or masculine, he's just a little old. they're even trying to do it to tom hanks, it doesn't fit at all

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My overseas Lover.... How I long for You...... To see You again, and kiss You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl089HxOPkw

>> No.22004689

>>22003262
>>22003278
Is this what it actually means when they say the coward dies a thousand times? Is the coward someone who constantly changes themselves to fit in?

>> No.22004691

little girls will save the West

>> No.22004728

>>22004607
Me have no creativity or imagination and cry about it on 4chan

>> No.22004739

>>22000357
Depression has grip on my throat every waking moment. It feels like I’m drowning. I haven’t been able to find any solution or even coping strategies. It’s been years like this. I live moment to moment. If I think about how many more years I have before I die of a natural death, I feel like cutting my throat open. This can’t be it for me.

>> No.22004743

HE JUST A WIDDLE GUY

>> No.22004744

>>22000357
i accuse people i don't like of being gay but i'm also convinced everyone i do like is gay

>> No.22004974

Is dementia symbolic of the infinity (contra aeternitatem) of human existence?

The core of the human identity is a function of the strength and rigidity of the memory, whereas some might assert that it is the consciousness of ourselves in the present moment which roots our human self. But the person with dementia, and the onlookers, can only see a pitiful state in the person whose identity is solely constrained to that consciousness, which repeats itself ad infinitum. There is still a trace of their former identity, the long term habits and other items of memory still remain, albeit in tatters. The person with true, absolute dementia would already be dead, there would be no trace of long term identity, no habits, nothing at all left.

What is it that the onlookers see in dementia which is so disconcerting? It can’t just be the loss of ordinary human function, which is common to so many pathologies. Could it be the effect the condition has on interpersonal relations? Again, this is common to many other conditions, like brain trauma. We could go on to say that it is the ghostly condition of the person, who in one sense retains the appearance of a person, and yet underneath lay a ghost, infinitely repeating the same actions over and over and never comprehending their plight, except in fleeting moments of lucidity. But what is this except a microcosm of the general existence of all beings, given the infinity of existence?

The ordinary human being is a consciousness with a severely limited memory. True, our memories extend further than the person who is diagnosed with dementia, or Alzheimer’s. Yet from the grand perspective, sub specie aeternitatis, could we not be said to be cosmic dementia patients? How many living beings have there been? How many more to come?

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>>22003311
Try Sci-hub

>> No.22004979

>>22004976
my computer can't read the DOI file because it's 30+GB

>> No.22004992

I'm in love but I can't commit because my life is a mess.

Not sure what to do.

>> No.22004997

>>22004979
I think it doesn't need to but I might be wrong. Have you tried searching for the title or the authors?

>> No.22005059

I’ve never wanted to be good at one thing. As long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to be a renaissance man. But more and more I feel I have found my one true love.

>> No.22005079

>>22000357
I realized today I was never more happier in life than when I had a CONSOOMER hobby (buying kino). When I could organize and collect things and have fun with movies. It was bliss. Everything felt in its right place. Now, my room is unironically a mess and I hate movies. And life.

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>>22000357
Ive been masturbating to the social media pics of my bfs only ever other lover. The one that took his virginity.

I do it out of anger and jealousy of her like I'm degrading her but after I feel so ashamed and depressed that she had such an impact on him in the few months she toyed with him, over me who has been with him for 5 years.

Do you think she will always be his oneitis and he will be her back up that he will drop me for if given the chance? Or am I being dumb over it all

>> No.22005114

>>22005079
I've always been a sneaker head since I was a teen but settled for more cheaper ones sicne they're easier to get. Now I'm starting to get the sneakers I always wanted.....jordans but couldn't justify paying for or going through the hoops to getting.

Now this year I somehow have ended up with 4 Jordans lmao, 1x AJ1s and 3x aj3s

I think I'm done for now but I'm still going to apply for raffles here and there for the fun of it

>> No.22005121

>>22005099
hey, I remember your post from /adv/
you should be thanking her, she made your bf likeable, if he was still a virgin, you wouldn't even like him

>> No.22005129

>>22004997
>Have you tried searching for the title or the authors?
anon please don't insult me. i did make SOME attempt to find it on my own before asking

>> No.22005158

>>22005099
Hey, um, femanon. Get over it. If a man loves you he will fight for you. You're literally dancing and fooling around without him looking.

And don't bother with his new girlfriend or whore or whatever you call her.

I've in a time where I feel like I can't get over someone. However, the power of knowing how to move on is just a big bless.

It's frustrating I can see how your story, that a girl managed to toy him in a few months compared to you in 5 years.

But don't prolong the tragedy, get over him and her. They can fuck off your life. Go find someone faithful. Go find someone else who can love you respectfully.

Also, I don't think you came during that masturbation, I think you cry.

I give you an internet hug cause your situation sucks.

>> No.22005236

>>22005129
Not him but do you have a uni affiliation which can help you access JSTOR or researchgate etc? Sci hub does it for free but if you've uni library access you probably have a code for legit services you're otherwise going to have to pay through the nose for
>tfw my uni screwed us over for library access because the president wanted a deal that gave him kickbacks but locked us out of legit library services

>> No.22005298

>>22000357
i suffer from cum incontinence

>> No.22005318

What a man wants is to believe that a woman can love him so much that no other man can interest her

>> No.22005328

>>22000357

These stupid generals where men in their late 20s and 30s whine about their lives are infinitely worse than any frog thread. /wwoym/ is equally off-topic, if one wants to pretend to care about such things (I don't) care about Guenon, but even the Guenon frogs at least try to goad posters into engaging with him with epithets such as "stupid hylic", whatever that means. I suppose I myself am a stupid hylic since I don't care about whatever it is that he has to say, but there it is.

By the way, there really hasn't been a meaningful decline in quality in this board over the past decade, as has been falsely imagined over the past few months. No, seriously, there hasn't been. I've been here daily the entire time. Perhaps a week ago, someone pretended that because someone started a go-nowhere book club thread once upon a time, that the board was somehow more constructive. There've always been a few intelligent people here, but it's always been a place to bitch and seethe, at best intelligently in between all the dross. The dross including the existence of a stupid general, or any organization whatever.

When people are ready to read a book, and not in a forced class context, they do it on their own. People don't join unreliable online book clubs. At best, such ventures might simply be interactions between two to four people, at the most, but these don't yield broader results beyond the individual interactions.

>> No.22005330

>>22005328
Board quality has plummeted. Period.

>> No.22005342

>>22005099
Jesus Christ.
Unless she seriously played mindgames with him he doesnt think about her more than 1~2 per year.
I'm older, 38, I've had sex with enough women, and the only one that marked me was the last one, because I had never had such a hot slutty girl obsess over me, and the sex was so great, I know I'm not going to top it. And she'd take me back in a second, but we re so fucking toxic to one another I cant bring myself to do it.

>> No.22005344

>>22005330
the quality of the board is unironically the best it's ever been

>> No.22005352

>>22005158
I fished out of her what their sex was like while she was drunk. And I feel so vanilla in comparison. He was completely different with her and was so submissive to her. Even when I think back before I found out about this, I recall how he is with her on their brief interactions. Like he gets shy or nervous when he says hi to her. I'm not sure if im imagining it but it's like she has her under some spell. And it annoys me now when she plants her lips in his cheek when she greets him but I can't do anything about it without making things weird because we all greet with cheek kisses

I even found out from his sister (they're friends) how badly she used to toy with him and how she warned him about her that she was just bored. But he was so in love with her and still kept going back to her even though she treated him so poorly. Mind you, they never even had a relationship. After her, he never dated or was a with anyone for nearly a decade until me who ended up being his first gf.

It also amazes me how beautiful she still is despite being in her 30s. When I masturbated to her I wanted to degrade her but I felt so dispicable and ashamed.

>>22005121
I didn't even know about her before we got together

>> No.22005354

>>22005344
I guess if you’re into esoteric edgelord philosophy or totally literature related off topic threads, then sure, it’s the best it’s ever been

>> No.22005385

>>22005342
>Unless she seriously played mindgames with him
I feel she did. She would keep him around. Then punish him or get angry at him if he got "too clingy" and wanted more until he started acting right.

It all makes sense when I look back because he was always weird or deflected when telling me how he felt about me, like he was very very very hesitant until I started being more open about it. Or would say how he felt about me but disguised it as jokes

>> No.22005431

>>22005099
You sure do that out of anger you dumb tranny. He thinks she was better because at least she had a vagina.
>10 years without gf
Yup. Your freak bf just gave up and took the tranny as gf.

>> No.22005435

>>22000357
>go to the ER
>tell them i'm experiencing alcohol withdrawal
>get free benzos
>get to take a nap and fluids make you feel nice
it's so relaxing honestly, it's like going to a spa, i do it all the time

>> No.22005447

I'm tired of being myself. The things that once made me special are more or less gone now and after years of working to get them back all I've accomplished is regressing back to an unemloyable milennial

>> No.22005456

>>22005385
>Then punish him or get angry at him if he got "too clingy" and wanted more until he started acting right.
That's perfectly normal behaviour in young women. My first gf would literally start fights just to see how far she could push me before things got serious, the proceed to make up sex. I barely ever think about her.
Hes been with you for 5 years, he doesnt think about his exes, if he thinks about someone else it's someone new, a friend or coworker, not an ex.

>> No.22005528

being a straight white male in upper class liberal circles is basically the same thing as being a passionless eunuch, they must not like sex, they must not be transgressive in any way, they must not cause pain to minorities or women, being an unapologetic straight white male among the elite is basically being satan


So as it any wonder we are seeing an explosion in people becoming trans

>> No.22005541

I have no idea what my bf is like just how we are together. Im trying really hard to bring my power level down

>> No.22005546

Just finished reading Numbers
What a wild ride

>> No.22005758

>>22005541
whats your power level?

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Thinking about how St Joan of Arc apparently once stabbed a prostitute so hard that the sword broke. She would also shoo away any of her fellow soldiers’ female companions, and went to great pains to eradicate gambling among the men. I think that this type of moral certitude and sheer force of will has largely disappeared among the mankind of today. In this present age what can spur men into committing great feats of strength and virtue? Setting sail for foreign lands, erecting obelisks, inspiring the masses to act in pursuit of some lofty glory.

>> No.22005989

is " women owe me sex" a valid argument?

>> No.22006022

>>22004976
>ifunny
c'mon

>> No.22006031

Humans care about the creation, not the creator. Always have and always will. Ai programs have exposed that reality. Sooner or later, humans will give up on creating anything since an Ai can do it better.

>> No.22006038

Is there an AI that can write erotica?

>> No.22006054

>>22006038
Probably. It will only be a matter of time.

>> No.22006055

>>22006031
>since an Ai can do it better.
If that made creators give up, art would have ended a very long time ago.

>> No.22006060

Was Picasso onto something with how he drew women? The girl I am dating now is just like the women in his paintings. There are so many aspects to her beauty and not so beautiful features. At her best, she is resplendent and embues a velvety luxuriousness. I literally saw the future of who she would become or at least some Platonic ideal of her. Other times she is pretty ordinary. There are women who are objectively more attractive. There always is. But there is some synthesis of her spirit and appearance that quite literally bends reality. It is an issue for me because I never commit but this is an experience unlike anything before.

>> No.22006063

>keats and yeats are on your side
>while wilde is on mine
what did he mean the by this? also why is there a weird anti-plagiarism message? that song always make me think of some gen-x wine aunt adjunct playing for her english 101 class at some bad state school in an effort to reduce cut and pasting which of course none of the students even pay attention to because it's not raggaton.

>> No.22006064

>>22006060
>Was Picasso onto something with how he drew women
Yes, you should also post pictures of you teabagging your gf

>> No.22006137

No self-respecting person would accept wage slavery. Imagine if Hitler had a boss and not a commanding officer.

>> No.22006146

I had a girl who was really into me, supported my passions, and wanted to get married and I gave it up because I was immature. Oh well. I suppose many people have such stories in their life.

>> No.22006231

I need a more social hobby. I’m a remote worker and for the last 3 years all I’ve done is work and read. Clearly, I’m depressed but I’ll never get better if I don’t make changes.

>> No.22006239

All my friends hate me

And I hate them too

>> No.22006243

>>22006231
same
I've been thinking about board games and MMOs
but I don't know
maybe I should go to clubs or something, or maybe join a shop class and learn knitting with a bunch of grandmas

>> No.22006250

>>22006239
Why? Do they bully you?

>> No.22006254

>>22006250
Vicious cycle

>> No.22006269

>>22006243
Everything is online now. I have never had social media, never used dating apps, but I’m very aware that all of these things happen via apps now. I don’t see my high school or college friends anymore and since all of my work experience since college was solitary, I never made new friends. I feel stuck between this solitary life and this online world that I don’t know or have an interest in.

>> No.22006278

COVID lockdowns really messed up my life plans. I delayed going to graduate school and now I’m a lot older than I probably should. I was really defeated back then, and I’m really defeated now.

>> No.22006288

I'm going to college in the fall, how do I not fuck up socially

>> No.22006289

I wish I were younger.

>> No.22006292

>>22000357
Fought a hobo threatening a 12yr old in the tramway. I yelled and he ran at me. Should've been able to win but I was carrying stuff and was still sitting down when the bastard reached me. Got punched once, punched him back, then we got separated and I left like a pussy. I feel like I've lost the fight. it was just a punch so I just have a tiny bleeding graze on the lip. Should've came back and headbutt him in the nose. Thinking about the kid right now.

>> No.22006294

>>22006288
“Be yourself” is inadequate but essential advice. Where most college students mess up is that they try to be someone they’re not, which is different than making themselves better by the way, or they unravel with alcohol, drugs, make a fool of themself etc. The second way they fuck up is by being unwilling to try things and put themselves out there, to join clubs, to go to events, to pursue interests, to live a public life at all. They want to be “too cool” or “too disinterested” for that.

>> No.22006301

>>22006288
Follow the motion, don't stick out. Be there at events.

>> No.22006303

>>22006292
You're a hero in my eyes, anon. The fact that you reacted already tells me you're awesome. You're not a pussy. You didn't lose the fight.

Wear that scar with pride, anon.

>> No.22006310

>>22006292
Should've killed the hobo, but then again, probably a bad idea in front of the kid

>> No.22006332

I’m torn between joining the army or going to graduate school. Frankly, I’m a little too old for either.

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>>22000357
Tbh as I got older, I realised that women overall just have this nature in them to want to control things. The problem is, although they can get control very easily they more often than not aren't very responsible with it. Or they misuse it that it leads to destruction, most of the times without even meaning or intending to. Eg. Being accepting of things that are blatantly wrong to gain social favor, such as transgenderism and the covid vaccine

Seems to be why women are the more neurotic, anxiety ridden types. It all stems from wanting to control things, or not being able to control things. Once you come to this realisation you will notice this in basically ALL women in your life, from your coworkers, HR roasties, relatives, even your own mother and grandmother you love so much. Even mothers who coddle their children (and disguise it as doing it out of love) is a form of control which leads to destruction where once they're adults, they aren't prepared. The incel/tranny epidemic is a prime example of this. Notice how if you ask women something that requires a simple yes or no answer, they will speak in tangents, it's to control. Heck, what is makeup? Another thing they can use to control their appearance.

They all do it so some extent and just like that switch sides so easily to control the situation and keep life comfy for themselves if it becomes the social norm or to control others perception of them.

I think it's men's job to relieve them of this hell they live in. It's why despite what they say, they always want a man of higher status and more dominante than them, no matter how dominant and high status they may be themsleves. So they can finally relax and have them take control (the lead), because if they don't trust the man they're with, they go into their control overdrive and they destroy their man and impose their nature on the kids which continues the cycle. You'll notice it in any failed or failing relationship, it almost always stems from the man not being strong enough to lead the relationship/family properly that the woman ended up taking over covertly and brought it to it's destruction.

>> No.22006475

>>22006424
Yup, Men have woke up to this that is my marriage and dating have spiraled into the toilet. Men who were burnt by divorce and older men are making youtube channels warning young men of the grift women employ all from "starter marriages" to eventually divorce rape the man up the tiktok-to-onlyfans pipeline. Younger men are now more aware of how women work than ever before and 64% of them aren't dating and have no interest in dating. Of course, Governments, culture, and social groups will go out of their way to try to give women more and more power. I wouldn't be surprised if a "bachelor tax" becomes a thing to help uplift single Moms. Best advice I can give is don't date, don't marry, don't associate. Leave all social media and fly under the radar, get some land out in the middle of nowhere and build your own house over time with the money you saved up. Homesteading is unironically a less dangerous and more rewarding experience than marriage or anything society is willing to offer men, fuck 'em, let them rot.

>> No.22006517

>>22006475
It always starts in the homes, where they destroy the husband by making him a weaker (simp) version of himself, just so he can survive her (remember that silly "happy wife happy life" motto that basically implies to give in to her every whim which then often backfires long term), or he ends up straight up leaving. Either situation giving her free reign to impose their neurotic chaotic nature onto their kids and control them in some way. Sometimes it's done covertly, through excess coddling which they claim is "love" but then destroys the kids long term as it leaves them unprepared. Or they impose their own traumas, neurosis, complaints about other people (like their own father) onto the kids which they then start to identify with passively and end up hating him for. Then the cycle continues where the daughters become like her by being controlling with future partners and kids, and the sons either become straight up incels or end up marry women like her who weakens them which stops them from protecting their kids as they should from her. Both sons/daughters thinking it's the normal way to be.

Seems to be the reason why a lot of issues in society stem from absentee father's or weak father's. Eg. Incels, thugs, sluts, school shooters etc. It's almost always stems from the chaotic neurotic female nauture being heavily imprinted on them. I feel there really needs to be a balance of energies. Women need to be self aware of their nature and give up this controlling nature and men need to be strong enough to be able to HANDLE that nature before even getting into a relationship, so that it doesn't ruin their kids and for them to be able to protect them from it.

>> No.22006529

Absolutely addicted to incest WEG's and I am about to break my poor dick in half God help me

>> No.22006536

>>22006424
>they can get control very easily
not real control, only illusion

>> No.22006757

I admire people who make the decision to go back to school in their later 20s or beyond. I actually got my degree years ago and I now feel like I’m too old to do some of the things I want.

>> No.22006821

I feel like I shot myself in the foot academically and it’s still coming back to bite me.

>> No.22006835

>>22006821
try isolating after uni graduation for a five years. take that job market.

>> No.22006911

I watched rocky horror picture show on friday and now the songs are stuck in my head, playing on loop

>> No.22006954

Do you guys ever get tired of complaining about the same shit constantly? These threads used to occasionally have interesting posts but now it's nothing but "I hate women, I hate my job, I wish I was younger" over and over again

>> No.22006972
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>>22006954
>Bed Bath & Beyond ran out of ketchup

>> No.22006989

>>22006954
>just ignore things lmao

>> No.22007000

>>22006954
I sure get sick of seeing them
I imagine the men posting these posts as 30 year old balding fat bastards with terrible BO.

>> No.22007001

>>22006954
Yeah, I never open wwoym threads anymore. It’s like Groundhog Day with the same shit over and over again. I’m over that doomer, woe is me shit

>> No.22007008

>>22007000
>>22007001
holier than thou, amirite

>> No.22007028

>>22004689
stairs work both ways

>> No.22007036

>>22007008
Try living life with a positive mindset for once. Life is much better than way

>> No.22007048

>>22007036
keep deluding yourself all you want idiot but don't evangelize your fake optimism - it's violence and if you do it to my face I will kick your fucking teeth out faggot.

>> No.22007055

>>22007048
no you wouldn't
I conquered life, you couldn't even conquer your own faggot self

>> No.22007057

>>22006954
Yeah. It's different back then in 2009 and before, we have pol fags, conspiracy fags, comic fags. Is life really hard 2010s and 2020s?

>> No.22007058

>>22007048
I have no desire to interact with you in person. I try to cut negativity out of my life as best as I can

>> No.22007079

Having gone from office work, to being a trade worker, back to office work i can say with confidence that office work is way worse.
It's a shame the hours are better cause if that was conmpensated I would never set foot in a faggot wagie slave office ever again

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I did it again
>took my gfs vyvanse to focus on work
>end up writing 4 hours worth of more lore for my fantasy novel instead
>still no prose or actual story, just endless lore and backstories for characters and objects and places
I wish there was a fiverr or like those sites where amateurs sell 3D art assets but for autists to sell piecemeal bits of worldbuilding copy so I could atleast claim these sessions are productive and not just mental masturbation.

>> No.22007127

>>22007079
what was the biggest difference?

>> No.22007214

>>22007127
With office work i've noticed you have more time where you're pretty much not doing anything.
I've used it to my advantage by reading articles and such but you do feel like you're wasting your time.
Also I think that you make less fond memories at an office than in the trade. I still remember making a technical area with 3 other dudes. Welding, climbing in the pipes, having to go in some cramped room which was wet and blasting music while doing the work. Sure some of it sucked when doing it but now at least you had stories to tell, you felt alive when doing it.
At an office? Just survive till the end of the day is what it feels like to me.
Too bad trade work does fuck up your body, that and the hours are what's holding it back.

>> No.22007220

This scene is so joyful and so sad. It’s so joyful because it rings so true, and the advice so simple. There is power greater greater than I at work in this world, all I have to do is decide what to spend my time on, and find solace in the fact that the ring came to me. But I’m sad because I fear I either do not know or do not like the ring that came to me. What am I meant to have? Perhaps nothing?
https://youtu.be/hdAN0o3oqB8

>> No.22007229

>>22007079
Which jobs did you do specifically? Some blue collar jobs are truly horrible. Oilfield and industrial jobs in particular. I will never forget scrubbing oil and sand off my face until I bleed at 3 am before I can get a brief sleep and be up for another shift at 6 am.

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>>22002529
one of the passages of A Man With No Talents that stuck with me was about the author speaking with a korean expat co-laborer about not having kids or a wife and the co-worker told him that this is an incredibly embarassing thing to admit, that he thinks less of him now, and that no man of his age should feel satisfied in life without a family. I think about this passage a lot especially in the context of those antinatalist spam threads that get everyone worked up. I don't think I want a family myself but I often think of what peoples true opinions would be on the subject were the societal status implications removed from the idea of family and having offspring. There's definitely a shrinking level of "peer-pressure" to do the traditional thing these days, but I think its still a significant contributor to why people who do end up getting married and having children do it, I'm sure moreso in foreign cultures like korea.

>>22006288
If someone asks you to go do something, go even if you're not that into it. I hate parties to this day but the experiences and connections I made at all those gay college parties and events turned me from an alienating shut-in autist to an employable relatable Real Human Being™.

>> No.22007247

>>22007229
I used to do piping for larger buildings and also working at making the technical room (if that's what you call it in English).
At a certain time my hours were (including commute) 06:00 to 17:30.
Compare it to my current office slave job of 07:00 to 16:00 and I save two and a half hours.

Plus I remember not even being able to read a book since I would fall asleep when I came home I was that tired.

>> No.22007309

>>22007247
My current office job is fully remote and only demands about an hour of attention per day. Somehow, I’m still miserable in it. I’ve wasted a lot of my life I think.

>> No.22007331

>>22007309
I feel the same way, it is a waste of life.
It can't be mentally healthy to be so unproductive while 'working'. I felt more useful while being a NEET for months on end than I do now. I don't know where to go from here but I'll do this a year and then find something else. I think I'd rope myself if I did this for 10 years.

>> No.22007355

>>22007331
Yeah. I just turned 30 years old pretty recently. I feel bad that I’ve spent so much time on job doing basically nothing. I wanted to find a vocation and pursue it before I turned 30.

>> No.22007360 [DELETED] 

>>22000357
Why do you care for revenge, Thelo? Didn't some of your friends survive? Couldn't that have been enough?
Ren. Mist. Full House. To name a few.
Why revenge? For Yagami, for Tanaka, for Mello, for Watari, for Mikami, for the rest of those who died? You hated all of them, you didn't care about any of them, isn't that right?
His mind tortures him. Why revenge, Thelo? Look what you did, Thelo, what your revenge led to. Your friends are dead and their blood is on your hands.
No, Thelo rebukes his mind, 'No, I didn't kill them, Hiero did. Hiero. Hiero. He has to die too, now. Like him. Like Majora. He has to die. He has to DIE.'
And after both Hiero and Majora are dead, what then, Thelo? Will you walk off into the sunset and live happily ever after? No one will come for you, to take their revenge?
'shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up'
Why, Thelo, why? He imagines Ren's face staring up at him, cold dead eyes questioning. Why?
'THERE IS GOOD, AND THERE IS EVIL, AND EVIL MUST BE PUNISHED, EVIL MUST ALWAYS BE PUNISHED'
You and your principles... but that's not it. You don't care for good or evil. What you want... is attention, isn't it?... You want Majora's attention-
Before he completely loses his mind, he reminds himself of the one last stop he has to make on this damned island. He'll do it. Run this errand. And leave. Forever.
He'll find the one... who led Hiero straight to his home... to his friends...

Tracing his steps back, he travelled through the woods. He walked for hours and hours, his mind torturing him, thorns coiling inside his head until thinking became painful, too painful, so his mind went blank.
He arrives at the Bowery King Shinigami's hideout. He looks upon the monstrosity.
He sees it. Marked by the Table, a wound on the back of it's hand in the shape of wings.
"You sold me out", Thelo snarls.
"Hehehehehe, it was a rather easy payday. That little half-breed friend of yours gave me quite the offer, I simply couldn't refuse! You can't blame me for my business acumen, hehehe..."
Thelo, hand shaking, drew Ecthelion out of its sheathe. The Shinigami only laughed harder.
"And what will that shiny toy do? You know as well as I that Shinigami can't kill, nor be killed except by breaking their contracts... and I don't intend to break mine, hehe... So...
What will the legendary Denier do? Hehehe..."
In a split second before Thelo acted, his mind ruminated on the creature's choice of words.
The reminder that Shinigami can't be killed. Posturing. Stating the obvious. Smug, self-satisfied victory.
The reminder that Shinigami can't kill. He didn't need to say that. He didn't need to insinuate it further. He didn't need to blame him outright. He didn't need to be right.

>> No.22007383

>>22007355
I had the same feeling decided to quit my office slave job at 24. Spend a few years doing a trade job and am now back in the office again. I'm planning on maybe doing some installation work on my own. Wouldn't need to do much to make enough money.

I don't know your personal situation but being/feeling useless for moth of your life sounds awful.
At that point I'd just do anything else, just to feel like you're doing something.
But again, I don't know your situation but I would never stay at the easy path just because it's easy. You want life to be more than just easy

>> No.22007431

>>22007383
To be clear, it’s not been most of my life. It’s only been a few years. Things were actually quite hard for me before that. I’m quitting tomorrow morning though. I want to get a book of my poems published and I think I want to go to graduate school. I just wish I had done these things years ago. Something happens when you cross that 3-0 where your whole attitude changes and where before you felt like you had time you suddenly feel like you actually don’t have any time at all and blew it.

>> No.22007515

>ancient budget laptop from 2016 singing on its last verse
>occasionally wi-fi card will just stop working and I have to reboot it
>it takes literally 40 entire seconds to shut off
>plus 20 more seconds to boot
>an entire minute
>also, bluetooth headset is turned on and off by holding a button
>have to hold it for 5-7 entire seconds
>5-7 seconds is completely unreasonable
>should be 2 at most
>have to literally wait a billion eons for it to turn on and off
Truly, the antinatalists are right...

>> No.22007594

Every ocean and all the stars. Smoke clearing in the soft light of morning. Seas of glass. The moon pouring its silver cup on soft grass. Things inside the sun. Empty graves.

>> No.22007667

>>22007594
Wubba lubba dub dub!

>> No.22007697

>>22000357
Anyone have podcast recommendations preferably on spotify?
About to go on a long drive.

>> No.22007721

>>22006989
I'm not saying you should ignore your problems, but that you should actually do something about them instead of complaining here.

>>22007309
On the one hand, I can't stand when my friends with office jobs complain about their work. It's basically just emails, how hard can that be? On the other hand, I would rather die than work in an office so I guess I kinda get it.

>> No.22007740

>>22007721
I do, yet I fail.

>> No.22007767

>>22007697
What kind do you want?
I like The Dick Show for comedy

>> No.22007933

Everything I hoped for has come true, but now I am just anxious and depressed and can't enjoy any of life.
I swear I must have some anxious personality disorder or something.

>> No.22007970

>>22000357
joined discord in december and it was terrible. going back to anonymous posting on /lit/. made me realize 4chan is full of zoomers now yet I'm still here.

>> No.22007976

>>22007740
Not my problem

>> No.22008003

How do you guys cope with aging into a dead-end job and dead economy? I never had a job I particularly wanted but then I always assumed things would somehow click eventually. I’m at an age where I can no longer convince myself that they’ll just click and I lack the resources to be free.

>> No.22008005

>>22008003
what job do you have? why do you dislike it?

>> No.22008010

>>22008003
Your situation depends on where you live, your education, and current job. People get girlfriends, wives, religion, read books, and shitpost on /lit/

>> No.22008023

>>22008003
Lower your expenses, cut consumption to a minimum, switch to part-time (as low an amount of hours as you can) and enjoy the cheap things, like walks in the woods, good books, good company and regular low doses of LSD.

Working is fundamentally for losers and cucks, even if it is so-called high prestige and high earning jobs - you are still selling your most precious resource. The only winning move is to sell as little of it as possible.

>> No.22008028

>>22008005
I work at a school in a pretty standard e-mail/analysis type job. Honestly, it’s hard for me to even articulate why I hate it. I just hate everything about it and I always have this feeling like I’m wasting my life. It doesn’t even pay particularly well. I don’t really want a job but I don’t know exactly what I do want. I kind of regret ever being in the position where I needed a normal job, like I should’ve went for a PhD and became a professor, or ran for local office or something.

>> No.22008034

>>22008023
I already do all of this. What’s killing me is rent. I moved in with a parent during the lockdowns but still haven’t left because it’s so hard to find manageable rent. I really want to quit and work on personal projects for a while but I can’t afford the rent, and nobody will even rent to you if you don’t make 3x the rent with proof.

>> No.22008040

>>22008028
It's never too late to change your life around. You just need to have a realistic goal in relation to your situation. You would probably be happier if you were paid better but that job would require more responsibility and training.

>>22008034
And this is new since I wrote above; sounds as if you could do with some sort of qualification for a pay boost.

>> No.22008088

>>22008040
It’s weird to talk about “turning my life around” because on paper, I have a degree, I have a decent job. It doesn’t pay a lot but it’s secure and it has good benefits. I have enough cash set aside for a down payment on a house. I have everything you’re supposed to have. And yet, somehow it feels like I ended up in a fucking disaster. I don’t think more pay would make me happy. I just don’t really want this job or this life.

>> No.22008093

>>22008040
>>22008088
I’ve been mulling over going to graduate school or some sort of professional school like law school. I’m not even sure I could get in because my undergraduate grades were pretty terrible. That’s not what’s holding me back though. There are a few other things holding me back.

>> No.22008100

>>22006243
>MMOs
These barely count as social, and on top of that, all the current ones suck ass and are explicitly antisocial.

>> No.22008107 [DELETED] 

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>> No.22008113

>>22006288
For the first month or so, do not ever spend a night doing nothing in your dorm. Go to all the seemingly stupid freshmen events, try out as many clubs as time allows. Will you stick with them? Probably not, but this is the prime period of socialization where people end up making the small group of friends they stick with for the next four years.

>> No.22008129

>>22008088
>>22008093
Sounds like you just need to get laid dude. If you have enough money to put a deposit on a house you're better off than the vast majority of people. Going to law school would probably just be a waste of your time.

I know a chick who just keeps upgrading her possessions once in awhile because she has no fulfillment in life. She has no talent or interests and seems incapable of getting attached to guys she meets (i.e. she doesn't fuck) so all she does is vapid consooming.

>> No.22008132

>>22006288
As everyone else has already said, go to all of the events, and keep a lookout for extras like boardgame clubs, book clubs, film clubs or whatever is reasonably within your interests - but try something new as well.
I only say it as well because that's literally it, and it is very important. If you spend the first six months alone in your room browsing 4chan, the inertia of that faggotry will very likely keep you down.

>> No.22008142

>>22006424
congratulations, you came across what was for almost all of human history, painfully obvious common sense: women should not be in charge of anything of societal import

>> No.22008310

>>22007767
I like history podcasts, lit related, but am open to anything

>> No.22008336

>>22007515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeN2RRR3xQ

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>>22008336
>shirt where there was none

>> No.22008379

>>22007515
>>ancient budget laptop from 2016 singing on its last verse
Lel my laptop is from 2011. It's fucking massive, missing keys, and whirs insanely loud when i use it but works surprisingly well.

>> No.22008430

>>22008129
Somehow “better than most” just feels like “not good enough”. I only have that down payment because I was willing to take the social hit of living with a parent for a few years at an age where I’m really too old to be living with a parent. My income is not high and I don’t even know if I could qualify for a home loan, but even if I could, I’m not excited about the idea of a 30-year mortgage and getting locked into my job. So I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. At the same time, I don’t want to be some mindless consumer like your friend. I just can’t shake this dread feeling like things aren’t what they’re supposed to be and I missed my chance at something, like I’m really behind.

>> No.22008470 [DELETED] 

You ever feel like you just don’t have a destiny or anything like that?

>> No.22008493

>>22000357
No matter what Im just this strange toddler bumbling around in an adult world.
My head is bulbous, but my body gaunt giving me an alien appearance. My legs are jacked though from walking everywhere. It's disproportionate . My face looks dead passive but also childlike somehow. Looking at it I can't help but wonder if it's real. It looks empty.
If I could change my appearance maybe I'd be a less ridiculous creature.

>> No.22008503

i cant get myself to do anything. i can barely move. i just want to kill myself.

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No one seems to pay attention to me anymore. My friends clearly haven't been listening the past year now. When I talk to my mother her eyes glaze over while she stares at her phone. We used to have such animated conversations in the past. Have you anons experienced anything similar? I don't know why I even bother, at this point I might as well conjure up some imaginary friends and talk to them instead.

>> No.22008519

>>22008514
Theyve given up on you it sucks when it happens but theres no way of changing their minds

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Why is everyone so petty? Why do we claim every single ideological dirt heap as ours and our only? Why do we think our knowledge comes close to God’s? Of course, take death seriously, take abuse seriously, and oppression, and so on, but every single etching you have made in this sand will be washed away by the indifferent cosmic slush of time. Can’t we just enjoy these moments instead of deciding it’s someone’s property?

>> No.22008540

>>22008525
Tits forever!

>> No.22008548

>>22008514
I wonder if its the vax. I've noticed this kind of listlessness among them too

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Next thread
>>22008551
>>22008551

>> No.22008580

>>22000357
you ever think about the fact women are just bleeding like 25% of the time and have to live like that, as if it were normal? if i spent a fourth of all my time bleeding and cramping from some strange internal process of my body i'd fucking kill myself

>> No.22008621

>>22001871
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>> No.22008731

>>22008142
It's interesting, because you read books from the 1500s, 1800s, etc and it's always the same situation.

>Don't get married, not until you can say you've done everything possible, and until you have stopped loving your chosen woman, until you can see her clearly - otherwise you will be making a cruel mistake that cannot be put right.
>Selfish, vain, stupid, totally vacuous - thats what women are when they show themselves in their true colours

It's funny how War and Peace even had lines that are still relatable today, especially when you see marriages break down. A man really does need to make sure he has his shit right and has done what he wants to do before a wife and children drag hold him back

>> No.22008832

>>22000357
I think I've made people think I'm mentally ill by mistake. A few months ago I started going to a new school. I have social anxiety and I barely talked the first few days which might seem normal to you but everyone else there was a hyper extrovert and they all seemed to know each other from birth. As a result, I probably seemed like a weirdo. After a while, I started talking a bit more to people and making some friends, but I didn't make any super good friends or anything. My closest friend in the school is my english teacher who plays yugioh with me during lunch. Anyway, this week we have exams. I had to take them the week after exam week because I was sick during exam week. I overheard my teacher saying that one kid who was in a different grade ( and who is actually disabled) gets extra time on his exam. I didn't think much of it until I was taking one of my exams and I ran out of time and the teacher told me I could continue writing it. The same thing happened for another exam. After that happened I started freaking the fuck out. I still can't get that shit off my mind. I've also noticed some people approach me and talk to me more than they did before. I've been told before that I'm an "interesting" person by one of my non-school friends and that's why they approach me despite having their own friends, but I don't feel like I have presented myself as an interesting person. I'm not saying I'm not but I don't think I have really said enough to be judged as "interesting" by anyone at my school. I still can't tell if they talk to me out of pity or not. Anyway, I feel like a paranoid schizo but I'm genuinely concerned and it's depressing me because I feel like I have no real friends and all my teachers think I'm an autist.

>> No.22008887

I've long known that I can't write worth shit, but it occurred to me today that I can't think of anyone like me who can either. Every story I know of that tickles my particular fancies was written by someone vastly different from myself.