/lit/ - Literature

Which side mogs?
Also sneed

>>21974252
I'll always be on the Right side of (his)story.

Are there any fantasy novels that explicitly use the motifs, aesthetics, and themes of black metal or is it up to me to make it happen?

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>>21974304
Are you me when I was 14?

thread has gone to shit in just a few replies

What's is the most sexually suggestive piece of literature have you seen

>>21974426
Lolita

>>21974358
Stop whining and make a difference.

>>21974244
>Conan Edition
Would a Stygian noblewoman. The pale ones that came from the east, that is.

>>21974569
A man of good taste.

What is the Final Solution to the Discworld Question?
Having finished 8 books, I find the average quality of the series rather lacking. I started with Guards! Guards! and it was amazing - distinct characters, fun jokes about society and politics, interesting mystery plot with a definite direction, I loved it.
Didn't want to progress too far into City Watch without reading some of the earlier stuff, so I read the starting books in other subseries, beginning with Colour of Magic, and currently reading Soul Music.
Most of them are not that interesting - Equal Rites and Mort are good, but Reaper Man and Soul Music have so much stupid childish filler. I would probably have liked them at the age of 16, though.
Are all of them like that, on average? Should I just finish the City Watch and ignore the other crap?

>>21974679
What do you mean by 'childish filler'? Pratchett did tend a bit towards overt parody in the earlier books, but that gets phased out over time. Sounds like you're generally only interested in the Watch, Witches and would probably enjoy the Moist books, though I generally recommend reading all of them anyway... Though I doubt you'll be interested in the "explicitly for younger audiences" ones like Tiffany Aching and Amazing Maurice.

>>21974694
In Reaper Man I didn't like the supermarket quest - it started well and had me hooked on, but then devolved into wizards shouting one-liners at each other. No depth to it either, unlike in Guards! and Men at Arms - those are proper thrillers.
The Death parts are good, but what accompanies them is a bit simplistic.

Light Fantastic felt like a repetition of the first book, and, like Sourcery, didn't make me care enough about the plot. Although I enjoyed the worldbuilding and the introduction of the Academy.

Equal Rites had an appealing story of growing up, learning new skills and making first steps in the world. The entire book was dedicated to developing these plot points. Jokes were abundant, but supplementary. Whereas in Reaper Man and Soul Music it felt like the jokes and dialogue were the primary focus instead of the story.

Truth and Postal Service do seem like something I'd like, judging by their descriptions.

feeling empty and want a heartboner
Any romance book involving young friends that turns more awkward, cuter and lewder over time?
No incest, but I accept cousins preferibly

>>21974787
A woman on /sffg/? Do you live in London?

>>21974779
I'd say keep going, honestly. Pratchett never stops trying to be funny (even the Watch books will just occasionally have "Nobby does some weird stuff" scenes, but they're in service of something usually), but it tends to be handled moreso as a matter of course rather than as a deviation from the story. Give Small Gods a read, as well. Some of the standalones you'll probably be iffy on, can't think you'll like Monstrous Regiment too much.

>>21974794
no, anon, I´m from a different continent altogether, and I´m a dude.
I´m just bored of the typical sword and sorcery high fantasy for the time being and want some cute romance (sex included)
>inb4 hasn´t even kissed a girl and almost bald

>>21974252
Can somebody name these authors? I recognize a few like Robert E Howard, HPL, and Gene Wolfe, but who are the others?

>>21974893
Bearded guy in the top right of the left wing is Rothfuss, I'm pretty sure. Guy above HP Lovecraft is Heinlein. Fairly sure the woman is LeGuin.

>>21974252
obviously right. Not even up for debate

>>21974893
dude with the eyepatach is laird barron. the fat guy is game of thrones man. the bald commie at the bottom is china mieville.

>>21974893
>>21974930
>>21974973
>left
bakker, rothfuss, erikson, le guin, abercrombie, laird barron, china miueville, grr martin, ligotti, assimov, moorcock
>right
vox day (lol), robert jordan, lovecraft, re howard, wolfe, tolkien, karl edward wagner, fritz leiber, er eddison, goodkind, e r burroughs, frankl herbert, heinlein

>>21974339
>neuromancer instead of the original
>between two memes
please

Realm of the Elderlings!

>>21975072
is shit

>>21974252
Malazan is the best series to come out of this pic

>>21974426
Gor is nice

>>21974694
>What do you mean by 'childish filler'?
an aspie discovered discworld and identified with carrot. a tale old as time.

i am currently reading the newish alien novels, some are good, some are bad.
how are the old novelizations of the dark horse comics, anyone read em?

>>21975143
Why would you say something so wrong?

Just started reading Gunmetal Gods.
Really enjoyed the first chapter and the authors writing style. Not really a fan of middle eastern style settings but I don't think I've ever actually read a fantasy book with that type of setting before.

>>21974339
I read like three books of cradle. Anime story that reads like something made by a guy who plays too many videogames.
Anyone got recommendations for something like pic related instead? I've got a hard-on for classic fantasy from the pre-2000's, and what I'm reading mow just isn't cutting it for me.

>>21975366

here's a classic to sink into. plus another 20 books by Brooks.

>>21975399
>That cover art
God I miss soulful book covers. Thanks, Anon. I'll check this out.

>>21974252
Damn, I didn't know More Cock was a genuine anarchist faggot. I thought he just engaged in a little bit of social buffoonery, like Frank Herbert with his occasional spice orgy. But no, he's a legit ancom retard

>>21974339
Thomas ends up as a bugger priest.

Does anyone have that list of the most grimdark books? It got posted a while. I remember that the Manifest Delusions series was #1 on it.

I a got a gift card for a book store and I'm heading out right now.
Recommend me some comfy adventure, sci fi or fantasy, doesn't matter.
Just something. I'm basically gonna go blind.

>>21975776
Mother of Learning

>>21975776

anything by Bob Asprin

>>21975776
Just buy a collection of Robert Louis Stevenson stories

>>21975664
Enjoy your spoonfeeding. Try to learn his to use the archive, a search engine, or even clicking on the previous threads in the OP of each thread.
>>21940545

>>21975831
Thanks

>>21975664
1. Bakker, The Prince of Nothing
2. Bakker, The Aspect-Emperor

>>21974252
>Bakker
>Left wing

Fucking what lmao

>>21975934
Yes?
He's quite obviously leftist...?

>>21975934
do you not know him?

>>21974252
PKD should be on a plane above this on an enlightened axis.

>>21971134
I just finished it recently. It's broken up into three parts: the first half where there's an alternate universe discovered in which they use to solve the world's energy problems, second half in the "para universe" of the three-gendered species, probably the high point of the novel, might use that if I ever start D&D this summer, or maybe my own work, and a moon colony where the problem is resolved. Allusions to genetic engineering are made, but since most of the book is conveyed through conversation, you really need to pay attention to what they say and how they say it.
Overall I'm halfway through Heinlein's Moon is a harsh Mistress, and I've been enjoying that far more.

Where the fuck do I download the Blue Core series? only book 1 is on libgen
also why doesn't the goodreads page load?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57924083-blue-core?

>>21976019
no idea what this series is but I think I found book 2 instantly.

>>21976044
On what? I only found his first books

>>21976077
search on annas archive I guess

What I present are too different dramatisations adapting the same scene, "The Council of Elrond" from 'The Fellowship of the Ring'. One was produced by the British "BBC", while the other was by the American publisher "The Mind's Eye". Which do you prefer?

https://litter.catbox.moe/852t25.mp3
https://litter.catbox.moe/skt7ny.mp3

>>21976080
Book two is there but not 3. Damn. Well, thnaks, that's something.

>>21976081
two*

This is better than I thought it would be...
Aleister Crowley and Nikola Tesla, together again for the first time!
Decent detective story woven into it as well...

>>21976077
check if the book in there is actually 3 books in 1, I recall it has around 2500 pages (unless one book of that serie is that long)

>>21976019
>>21976082
The entire series is on RR. Just use WebToEpub if you want to make it an epub or mobi.

Grimdark Fantasy reigns supreme. I'm awaiting my RoyalRoad serial to upload.

What is it with cat-people in classic sci-fi? How come writers of that era were obsessed with them?

>>21976130
Oh, it might be. I don't think I can right now but I hope that's the case, thanks.
>>21976235
I don't know what any of that is but if I have to I'll look it up.
>>21976309
furries
also, that cover looks kinda NSFW

>>21976326
RR is Royal Road. The site where the story was first posted and other stories like it.

>>21974244
The Elric VS Geralt fandom dispute is probably the gayest nerdfight I've seen since Star Wars vs Star Trek.

>>21976437
Everyone knows Skafloc reigns supreme and was the inspiration for Moorcock (BBC?)

>>21974252
Why is KEW right wing? There's barely anything political in his writing but I haven't red anything beyond the kane trilogy.

>>21976452
look at the pin on his jacket

>>21976462
I must apologize but I am not american, therefore I know fuckall what these pins are supposed to mean. Are these some kind of biker stuff?

>>21976483
It's just edgy stuff that boomers wear sometimes. It's literaly nothing

>>21976483
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf#Nazi_Germany

>>21976452
>Why is KEW right wing
just look at him

>>21976437
>The Elric VS Geralt fandom dispute
???

>>21976725
People think Geralt was ripped off from Moorcock, and it’s mainly because Adrej 3000 translated some Elric novels or something.

Any anons read the new Brent weeks title night angel nemesis? I enjoyed the original trilogy and kinda enjoyed this but am on the fence about the unreliable narration

Looking for recs that have spooky and mysterious environments like Blame! or Clarke's Rendevous with Rama. I've read some of the common recs here in those categories, looking for something new. danke

>book one
into the trashcan it goes

tell me your favorite standalone books

>>21976751
lord of light by zelazny

>>21976732
Explains why he's such an outcast now, he will never be the big boi

>SKINNER!!!!!!!!!!!

>>21976744
What are the common recs, I've read those and it sounds like a good category.

Maybe I’m a Pseud, but I feel like the writers of centuries past wouldn’t have really cared about the distinctions between genre and high literature. After all, Kierkegaard and Shakespeare had more common appeal than we would think now. We bundle classics into high art since it lasted the test of time, but there were many staples of the canon now that were based on penny dreadfuls and literal muckraking, such as Daniel Defoe (who brought about the English novel as we know it, at least retrospectively). I wouldn’t say someone of Defoe’s calibre would write science fiction as it’s stereotyped though. None of that stuff feels particularly artful nor do I find many titles full of cliche enjoyable to read. But I wouldn’t put it past a great writer to write in “the future” with a certain generic background for their art, either to play with tropes or whatever.

>>21976815
Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days - Alistair Reynolds
Revelation Space - Alistair Reynolds (this one has less of a spooky vibe, but it has a lot of mysterious alien artifact stuff)
Roadside Picnic - Arkady and Boris Strugatsky (not really spooky vibe, interesting take on alien artifact stuff)
Blindsight - Peter Watts

There's also this one book that's recommended often, I can't remember the title. I will vaguely describe the plot and maybe some anon can remember what it was. Don't read to avoid spoilers

>arc ship type human populated vessel looking for place to settle
>lands on spooky alien planet. planet has underground areas where there are tons of human (and maybe other alien) corpses that all look like they have been brutally tortured and murdered
>arc ship leaves to follow some signal found on the planet, some people stay behind i think
>arc ship finds apparently empty alien ship with odd human lady
>ITS A TRAP

Something like that. I really don't remember, that book had a cool setup but bad payoff iirc.

>"It is you! Delat! You shape-shifting bastard!"
Laughed so fucking hard which I rarely do while reading. I'm sold on this book cause of that entire part alone

>>21976815
Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days - Alistair Reynolds
Revelation Space - Alistair Reynolds (this one has less of a spooky vibe, but it has a lot of mysterious alien artifact stuff)
Roadside Picnic - Arkady and Boris Strugatsky (not really spooky vibe, interesting take on alien artifact stuff)
Blindsight - Peter Watts

There's also this one book that's recommended often, I can't remember the title. I will vaguely describe the plot and maybe some anon can remember what it was. Don't read to avoid spoilers

>arc ship type human populated vessel looking for place to settle
>lands on spooky alien planet. planet has underground areas where there are tons of human (and maybe other alien) corpses that all look like they have been brutally tortured and murdered
>arc ship leaves to follow some signal found on the planet, some people stay behind i think
>arc ship finds apparently empty alien ship with odd human lady
>ITS A TRAP

Something like that. I really don't remember, that book had a cool setup but bad payoff iirc.

>>21976899
Get ready to be disappointed
Brando was a failed writer until Big Mormon got him a publishing deal to push their Big Mormon agenda

>>21976903
Your spoiler is Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo. It was one of the suggested monthly /sffg/ reads.

>>21976918
Yeah that was it. Thanks anon

>>21976908
anon what the fuck are you talking about
the post you replied to has literally nothing to do with sanderson

So you still like him, right? Big Mormon funnelling money into this with anonymous backers, and it snowballed there into what it is now. Tax evasion at its finest.

>>21976725
Whenever there's discussion about either, there's always a retard who tries to gaslight everyone into thinking that Geralt is a dollar store version of Elric which is a completly retarded take.

>>21976908
I'm talking about Malazan but I'm curious as to what Sanderson book/character you thought I was talking about

>>21976908
Rent free lmao

>>21976930
You realize Words of Radiance is the most reviewed book on goodread? You know how popular Sanderson is? How much money there is in the mainstream publishing industry? It didn't surprise me his le heckin wholesome pandemic book writing marathon kickstarter raised that much money.

HAM BEAST

>>21976944
Brando rode off the coattails of Erikson, among more obvious writers. It’s clear as day. All to shill the good Book

>>21976955
>Words of Radiance is the most reviewed book on goodread
And how did it get to that? He obviously didn’t have a following into pushed into writing and “finishing” (read: ruining) Wheel of Time because Big Mormon had gotten the rights and connections.
All his wholesomeness and even lectureship had been invented by Big Mormon, using all the research they had at BYU from avoiding taxes and charging retards extortionist fees, while they go to Korea and Polynesia for 2 years and take money (a tithe, or “donation”) from unsuspecting colonised people.

All Mormon heretics please leave this board.

>>21976813
>AHHH SAVE ME ARDATA

It's really criminal with how popular Malazan is, how shitty majority of the fanart for it is.

>>21976903
Nice, thanks brother.

I'm reading a Marion Zimmer Bradley novel for the first time and I'm really regretting it
The fact that she's a lesbian pedophile really oozes through her writing, it's insane

>>21977030
And yet she's written probably the second most famous modern era Arthurian fantasy work. Sad!

>>21977036
Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight mogs cringe Mists of Avalon

>enter thread
>ctrl+f favorite author name
>0 results
>breathe sigh of relief
anyone else or just me

>>21976955
It has relatively few reviews. He isn't popular overall.

>>21974835

My gf is super into A Court of Thorns and Roses. There’s a whole side of TikTok for it.

Any "high fantasy in space" series besides Dune, 40k, and Star Wars? I hate normal space opera but love it if it has fantasy elements.

Thoughts on John Carter of Mars? I've been thinking about picking that series up.

>>21977120
Boring to me, maybe not to you.

>>21974787
>romance
Yeah theres plenty of-
>young friends that turn more awkward, cuter and lewder over time
Just go to the YA section and pick up something with sparkles on the cover.

>>21974787
Wuthering Heights.

>>21973667
http://www.luminist.org/archives/

>>21977120
Does that woman have three cocks?

>>21977145
Do you want that?

>>21975812
I wanted to recommend this to somebody that posted about comedy books. At least few first ones I have read were great.

>>21976081
For me? Either Bob Inglis for his voice or Phil Dragash as far as audiobooks go.
>>21976118
>Aleister Crowley and Nikola Tesla, together again for the first time!
>>21976309
Cat women have an appeal, I have to say.
>>21976437
Their stories are not quite the same, so who cares if some aspects were ripped off.

>>21977145
It's just a ruffled loincloth, anon.

>>21977030
>The fact that she's a lesbian pedophile really oozes through her writing,
So are you trying to sell it, or..?

I hate webnovels. I hate everything about them, but the absolute worst is their absolutely retarded single line paragraph breaking. Fuck those fags.

I'm ambivalent towards webnovels. I hate some but like others, but the absolute best is their sensible single line paragraph breaking. Well done guys.

I adore webnovels. I love everything about them, but the absolute best is their absolutely exquisite single line paragraph breaking. Love those guys

>>21974252
Both sides have good authors, and all these right wing left wing dichotomies are mostly artificial. Some might be even wrongly put to one side or another. Anyways, here's some authors from the picture that are good in my opinion:
>R. Scott Bakker
>Ursula K. Le Guin
>Robert E. Howard
>Frank Herbert
Others are decent also but I left them unnamed. I'd like to conclude this topic by saying that if you like an author, never ever go and read what they post online. Never read their blogs for the love of god. It is like Bakker himself said it: Reading an author's personal blog is like looking up a tranny's skirt. All you will find is another dick.

>>21974339
I hate how this image persists here as some booby trap or rat poison; all rat poison is also food but there's poison. Only here, the ratio of poison to food is about 60 to 40.

Anyway what's up? I tried to read Rise of Endymion but holy shit that book is so bad it killed all my will to read any more science fiction so instead I read:
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Inferno
>Confessions
>Oresteia

Is there an alien race in any of science fiction that gives off the same feeling as Loveless by My Bloody Valentine? Something aggressive, mysterious, but sensual

https://youtu.be/1wxc2zfM-Tg?t=153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voyvH3nhAFE

>>21977294
shoegaze is just too dreamy to materialize it

Just finished blue remembered earth series, man Alastair Reynolds dropped off HARD, how did we go from revelation space kino to this trash? Same with Peter F Hamiltons new series and its unbearable trannyshit plotline.

>>21977156
N-no…I just…uh…

>>21977338

>>21977120
John Carter of Mars can be a fun time. It's basically
>What if Dune was a swashbuckling adventure featuring Conan, but he's a southern gentleman? Also everyone is naked.

>>21974252
Comparing economic value from 100s years ago.

Howard would be a centrist according to most right wingers

How long does it usually take for a new book release to go onto kindle unlimited?

Signed up for 2 months free, there seems to be a lot of authors that don't put there books on it. Lots of well known series that are years old and have sold millions that aren't on there either.

>>21976744

>>21977292
>Prydain
>Belgariad
>"D"
>A literal fucking tripfag shiteater
Checks out

>>21977245
>>21977248
>>21977254
Screw webnovels.
Bring back webcomics.
You are now manually remembering Dominic Deegan.

Is there a wikipedia of book covers or something?
If I start blowing my money on some retail therapy I want nice hardcovers.

>>21975934
shitty bait

>>21977292
>Worm Ouroboros
>Easy reading
Brilliant.

>>21977441
Way better than the actual Dune. It’s like pulling fingernails out, reading that.

Well I found this to be mediocre and poor in relation to its popularity and the aura it seems to carry in fantasy communities. It is on par with a 40k or Star Wars novel in terms of quality and depth (which is fine), only people seem to be suffering from mass-psychosis where they all pretend it isn't and this bloated superhero book is placed first on a bunch of lists. Now I'm sceptical about picking up a new popular series, I was thinking about Malazan but the same people seem to be recommending that too.

>>21977579
It’s what happens when people only read genre (or barely read at all). They lose objectivity and the ability to spot great works compared to the pulp mill. It’s fine to like pulp, I don’t mind it, myself, but I don’t delude myself about what I like.

>>21977579
New to Sanderson; I read the "prologue" of this book. I was shocked to find that there are two prologues, and the first wasn't even gripping, I didn't finish it. I guess he has enough fame to do this type of nonsense, so people will keep reading his book otherwise, for me though, it just turned me off completely, what a hack.

>>21977627
Filtered kwab

>>21975831
has anyone read 'beyond redemption' from this list? it has a higher grimdark rating than the second apocalypse

I just finished the blacktongue thief, Fun popcorn fantasy romp. Was anyone else surprised when the mc was anally raped by a viKANG?

>>21977579
I’m about halfway through, I’m liking it so far

Am I just a pleb with shit taste?

Is science fiction dead?

>>21977780
The sci fi mags are run by females who want character driven stories written by minorities, so…

>>21977780
It's dead until an author decides to write a vamp lit with a human male MC featuring romance with a female vampire

>>21977834
I don't want any romance in scifi

>>21977907
you're the reason why sci fi is dead

>>21977918
Why not have scifi in scifi novels and romance in romance novels

>>21977949
Because women keep lit alive. Not men.

>>21976725
>>21976732
>>21976764
>>21976942
cope witcherdrone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkiP64adGjY

>>21977441
>What if Dune was a swashbuckling adventure
Dunekiddie doesn't realise that hack herbert plagiarised barsoom

>>21977834
Tsukihime

>>21977949
Because sci Fi romance is the best and easiest way give MC motivation.
>StarCraft
The only reason Jim goes off to fight the Zergs is to have sex with the zerg mother.

>>21977791
Didn't the internet change how science fiction literature is published and sold? Aren't any independent authors managing to break through this problem? Is there any hope?

To the anon with that posted his Royal Road story a few threads back. Knight of Valora, it's not bad. It certainly doesn't belong on a litrpg forum like Royal Road.

Good:
Adah is incompetent, which is refreshing
The mystery aspect is far more intriguing than the action scenes

Bad
Action scenes are dumb
Prose could use some work
Setting isnt really described. There's just some magical electricity but there should be an entire chapter dedicated to world building.

>>21978074
>easiest
Yes
>best
No

In scifi it should be some scientific event or ground breaking discovery + political event that motivates the character, for example some alien tech has been found and there is political angle from humans and also aliens who left it there to be discovered, this in turn motivates mc (because he is man with great ambition not a coomer) to go out there investigate, solve and take advantage of the situation.

>>21978100
NTA, but it's cool you're taking time to help others. I don't want to shit up this general with my stuff, but seeing as you're critiquing web novels, and if you'd like to read my new prologue, here it is:
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/67893/the-god-of-the-spark/chapter/1198641/prologue-the-changeling
I would actually want to dedicate the entire story I'm going to be publishing weekly or biweekly to /sffg/, since their recommendations helped form my ideas for this.

>>21978100
>there should be an entire chapter dedicated to world building
I disagree. The world should be built through sight not word.

>>21978090
No, it did change things, but not much in terms of who is in charge of publishers, smaller sci-fi pubs and mags. The difference is you can self-publish, if they won’t take your work, for whatever reason. It’s hard to break through and even harder now for white guys.

>>21978105
It's well written but incredibly generic. Elves, trolls, goblins oh my. Nothing that someone can't pick off a shelf at Barnes and Noble.

That said, the names Astrid and Ulf make little sense if they're sisters. Unless you can explain why one is called stars and the other wolf. The two names sould way too far apart and not consummate of a "culture". For example Chinese people won't call one child Jacob and another one Ling.

Ulf is masculine and German, Astrid is Scandinavian and feminine. Nadj is Hungarian.

>>21977714
No, it doesn't surprise me that modern fantasy has gay rape or emasculates the MC.

>>21978150
>Ulf, or Ulv is a masculine name common in Scandinavia and Germany. It derives from the Old Norse word for "wolf" (úlfr, see Wulf). The oldest written record of the name's occurrence in Sweden is from a runestone of the 11th century.
>Astrid is a given name of Scandinavian origin, a modern form of the name Ástríðr. Derived from the Old Norse Ássfriðr, a compound name composed of the elements áss (a god) and fríðr (beautiful, fair)
I guess I went off generic knowledge about names, but I thought they were both Scandinavian, which is repeated on Wikipedia.
>sisters
They're brother and sister, and I thought that was obvious from Ulf's name and demeanour, not to mention he says he is a "mourning son."
I should have done more work to make this more obvious though, so I'll make a note of that. I'm dropping the first person voice as it was only used for the 'reveal' at the end of the prologue, which might amend ambiguity.

>>21978150
>Nadj
Are you referring to my character called Njal? The name comes from Njal's Saga.
>Njáll (Old Norse pronunciation: [ˈnjɑːlː]; Icelandic pronunciation: [ˈnjautl̥]) is an old Viking given name[1] native to Iceland and other Scandinavian countries.

>>21978178
My bad. This is what I get for speed reading. Disregard my criticism

>>21978204
No problem. I guess the story's worldbuilding needs more signposting, anyway.

Any good schizo sff? Conspiracy reptilian Illuminati /x/ stuff? Something insane and high brow like Laffery's Fourth Mansion or PKD.

>big mormon
>big mormon
>big mormon
>big mormon

On an unrelated note, I have a couple questions for you guys.
1. Does the 7 book Barsoom series by Burroughs have the remaining four short stories within it, or should I find a PDF for the last four?
2. If I am looking for a hardcover copy of Altered Carbon, are there any publishers you would reccoment? I have been listening to the audiobook, and I am really enjoying it and would like to have a physical version.

Aside question: I have been reading Conan, and am blown away by the prose that both he and HPL put to paper. The notionthat such writing was printed on low quality wood pulp, yet the sophistication on its vocabulary has made me write lists of words and objects that I have to look up in a dictionary. perhaps it's conspiritorial, but I have come to believe that there has been an effort at dumbing down out populace if this is the sort of writing was the type to be mass marketed and produced.

Sorry for the tangent, maybe it's my limited experience in these writings, but it impresses me to no end.

>>21978500
Forgive me, not a question, but simply an aside.

>>21974244
Thoughts (and general info) on this compilation book, please?
Is it any good?

This book is unnerving. H.G. Wells just sat down and wrote this behemot of a book within what, 3+ years? Its depth of thought, exploration of humanity, WW1 and speculative dive into possible future is colorful, brilliant and creative beyond anything I've seen from fiction in a long while. This reads excatly like something 40+ years old life-long sci-fi writer would write. Huxley is a damn trout in comparison, not only in writing style, but in the sheer variety ot topics tackled. I know Huxley was described as 'sterile', but damn, it if this was his contemporary then Aldous Huxley must have been a pseud if you juxtapose the two.

Just look at this hilarious fragment about the removal of religions in the new world order (keep in mind this was written in 1933, years before WW2):

>After 2020 there is no record of any schools being open in the world except the Modern State schools. Christianity where it remained sacerdotal and intractable was suppressed, but over large parts of the world it was not so much abolished as watered down to modernity. Everywhere its endowments had vanished in the universal slump; it could find no supply of educated men to sustain its ministry; the majority of its churches stood neglected and empty, and when the great rebuilding of the world began most of them vanished with all the other old edifices that lacked beauty or interest. They were cleared away like dead leaves.

>It might have been supposed that a people [Jews] so widely dispersed would have developed a cosmopolitan mentality and formed a convenient linking organization for many world purposes, but their special culture of isolation was so intense that this they neither did nor seemed anxious to attempt. After the World War the orthodox Jews (...) [were] far more preoccupied with a dream called Zionism, the dream of a fantastic independent state all of their own in Palestine (...).

>And yet between 1940 and 2.059, in little more than a century, this antiquated obdurate culture disappeared. It and its Zionist state, its kosher food, the Law and all the rest of its paraphernalia, were completely merged in the human community. The Jews were not suppressed; there was no extermination; there were world-wide pogroms during the political and social breakdown of the famished fifties, but under the Tyranny there was never any specific persecution at all; yet they were educated out of their oddity and racial egotism in little more than three generations. (...) The world is as full as ever it was of men and women of Semitic origin, but they belong no more to ‘Israel’.

I don't know whether to see it as hilarious or insightful. Wells had a visible tendency to assume cultures and religions would just vanish, as if no one cared. As weird as this sounds now, remeber this was written 15 years before Israel was founded. This is european-centric to the fullest, without care for other continents except for general thought of 'they just folded and submited.' Fascinating.

>>21978105
>I don't want to shit up this general with my stuff,
You mean like you're doing now?

>>21978105
>Eyeing the glittering beams inside the prism of ice, my sister
Stopped reading there, another coomer strong womans drama story. Kys.

>>21978728
>3 hour old post
Look in a mirror.

>>21978760
On a thread that lasts two days.

>>21977949
Because romance novels suck. The couple only ever properly gets together at the end. But I want to read about their romance payoff. I want to read about how they juggle that with the rest of their life too.

>>21977956
How do you explain the popularity of harem novels?

>>21978781
Read whatever you want but don't pollute scifi and fantasy with that crap.

>>21978788
There are harem novels? Like actual books, not just LNs?

>>21978565
Classic high adventure. It's fucking great.

>>21974794
>>21977126
>>21978781
>Can't get into romance without being called a womyn
What am I to read? Those books where eveyone have sex from the first chapters with no build up? or those badly written haremlitrpgs?
And what about those romance book that do not involve harem elements and aren't written by female authors? are those also made for womyn?

>>21975356
Sounds interesting, keep us posted

>>21978917
Anon, the people who frequent this thread mostly have adapted to all the cuckshit, rape and faggotry in the books they read by despising romance/sex and becoming apathetic so now they think your desire for a wholesome and cute romance in a fantasy adventure is a sign of weakness or something.

Alright, Gormenghast here I go. You better not cheat me again /sffg/.

>>21978973
Read a bit more today. Really enjoying it so far, the two main characters are interesting and considering it is a grim dark book there is a decent amount of humor. Still early on in the story but it is building up nicely to what seems to be a siege of a major city.

The setting seems to be a mix of Greek, Roman and the Middle East. There are djinns, angels, gods, magi, magus'. There is also a labaryinthos (obviously a labarynth), krakens and other mythological stuff in there as well.

>>21978604
this is what you get when the Idle Rich overdose on socialism and have nothing to in their lives except dream up asinine fanfiction

>>21977579
>I was thinking about Malazan but the same people seem to be recommending that too.
Erikson and Sanderson share a genre and that is about it. I'm a huge giant Malazanfag but I couldn't finish Way of Kings. I'd be surprised if there is much of an overlap between fanbases. I was maybe 80% through WoK and I just wasn't interested enough to finish. Haven't considered to read another Sanderson book. Malazan is a tough sell so I normally don't try to sell it. It doesn't pick up until the second book and most people don't like Gardens of the Moon. I'm not even sure why I bothered with Deadhouse Gates but I'm glad I did.

Is it even worth starting KKC knowing that fat fuck Rothfuss will never finish it?

>>21979091
no

>>21978604
>there was no extermination
How was Wells so right? Was he a time traveler?

>>21975356
>I've ever actually read a fantasy book with that type of setting before.
please read The Mask of the Sorcerer. Thank you, sir.

>>21979141
>he thinks The Time machine was fiction
Lol, it is non-fiction based on his time travelling adventures.

>>21978728
>"Huh, huh, huh?"

>>21979002
Projection on a massive scale.
I haven't read a single book that has a rape in it yet.

>>21979091
You've already decided that it isn't with that attitude, which means you posted that for some other reason than to ask that question.

>>21979059
I like both but I think Malazan is slightly better, if incredibly autistic

I just bought "wizard knight" and "between two fires". Am I fucking retarded?

>>21979213
Yes, but not because of buying those books.

>>21979180
Not necessarily I'm just apprehensive about starting another series that won't be completed and from what I've seen about Rothfuss' antics since book 2 (his twitch spergouts, not delivering charity chapter etc etc) makes me lean towards a negative opinion of him

>>21978873
Yes, try searching for K.D. Robertson or Mike Truk.

>>21979213
Wizard Knight is great, might even be up there with Book of the New Sun, desu.

>>21979179
>I haven't read a single book that has a rape in it yet.
so I was only 2/3rds right? I consider that a win.

>>21979300
Now I might have to buy those as well. Think before you speak anon!

Any indie books worth checking out

>>21979353
The royal road shitters are okay. They should probably put it up on Amazon as a paperback though

>>21979208
>Malazan
>More autistic than any Sanderson series
Lol, lmao.

What are some stories that feature talking horses? Preferably female talking horses, because then I can be assured the relationships in the book are clean and not threatened by YJKposting, but I'd gladly accept male talking horses as long as it's CLEAN. Get those dirty thoughts out of your brain, that's not what I'm asking for.

>>21979511
If you don't mind centaurs...

>>21979520
ooh

>>21979520
I do mind, because I have not read a single book about centaurs where the first, last, and only thing on the author's mind was SEX SEX SEX, and that one goes for both genders, because it's not just about the women and stallion "you just know" dynamic, men are coomers around centaur females as well.
On the other hand, if your recommendation is clean and wholesome I'll look into it, but I was hoping for the other half of the horse.

Also I do mean talking, and not internal monologuing like Black Beauty or telepathy like the Companions of Valdemar

>>21979538
the greeks understood this

>>21979538
The connection between a Man and his Mare is sacred, your ancestors all partook, they all knew.

>>21979542
I know they knew, but I want a fantasy novel about talking horses that doesn't have any fucking sex in it! That shouldn't be too much to ask!

>>21979520
>>21979538
is kind of weird that I'm not into centaur girls
I consider kind of a degenerate, would even bang the curvy monster from Evolve, but a woman with horse gneitalia is beyond my limits

>>21979511
When I was young I read The Immortals Quartet and the female protagonist could talk to animals including her horse who was like her only family member. That's the closest I can think of.

Does anyone have a decent site for epubs?

>>21979624
read the sticky

>>21979624
libgen

>>21979629
>>21979632
Libgen doesn't have what I'm hunting for, it was the first place I looked.

>>21979643
what are you hunting for then

>>21979654
The Firefly/Serenity novels, there's like 9 of them now, last I read I was on the fourth.

>>21979643
then try z-lib

>>21979538
>On the other hand, if your recommendation is clean and wholesome I'll look into it, but I was hoping for the other half of the horse.
It's a BDSM Smut, with serious Master/Sub dynamics. It's wholesome insofar as you are into that, because their love is pure. Like, it's not typical explicit smut, the author is one of those that REALLY get into sexual ideas. For a LitRPG Harem Smut it's solid. Having a smooth writting and a horse girl elevates it above the usual rabble.

>>21979643
Check Anna's archive it searches a multiple sources at once

>>21979655
yeah, looked for you, they're on zlib

>>21979658
>Is it clean and wholesome?
>It's BDSM smut, so yes
OKAY FINE YOU ZOOPHILES, JUST GIVE ME THE GODDAMN MAREPUSSY NOVELS SINCE THERE'S NO WAY I'M GETTING NON-DEPRAVED TALKING HORSES

>>21979665
Oh, excellent. Ta, Anon, found my stuff other than the latest book.

>>21979656
>>21979669
Z-lib got seized, can't even access it with a VPN far as I saw.

>>21979688
consult the archives, it's just hidden away from tiktok zoomers

>>21979691
Aye I figured it was all but gone thanks to normie cunts, I shall have a nose.

>>21979691
why tiktok zoomers specifically?

>>21979688
Np, Anna's Archive is the shit.

>>21979697
Booktok is unfortunately a thing and Tiktokfags always ruin things by exposing them to their brainless masses

>>21979511
Realm of the elderlings has a talking horse and she's a bitch

>>21979710
that's kind of funny but I'm not sure I want to start on a book series with like 20 entries

>>21979713
Yeh it's not till one of the later books and it's a really small part

I'm 50 pages into Bakker book one and liking it. Going good so far. I am horny

>>21979703
Same goes for 4chan, chud. Brainless masses repeating memes about books they don't read.

>>21979918
anon, stay off tiktok

>>21979906
>I am horny
GRIbros we got another one.

>>21979971
I am the most violent of all men, and you know what that means.

>>21979918
>chud
Don't type in my direction again.

>>21979520
>here is also a single very brief (1-2 paragraph) netorare rape scene.

Anon...

Does the series get good after?
I really, really liked the first book, but Children of Dune completely bored me to death that I speedlistened to last 2 hours or so of audiobook.
Any time someone points out that Children of Dune was dissapointing, then everyone shills for God Emperor Dune to be the best book in the series.
True or false?

>>21980350
correct

>>21980350
I thought Dune was great, thought Messiah was amazing, then didn't like Children and put the series on hiatus. I recently read God Emperor and liked it more than Dune.

>People are already getting Advanced Review Copies of Light Bringer
I can't fucking wait any longer bros......
The next 3 months are going to be torture

>>21980315
not that guy, but where did you find this info?
reading the reviews, I don't see any mention of this

>>21980522
nvm, found it

>>21980501
I only read the first few pages of the first book of the series. Are they all written in present tense?

read malazan, chuds

>>21980649
I will definitely never read it now

>>21980501
They've been getting them for some time already. If it was a series I had already been reading and enjoyed I would've requested it when it was first added. There's a chance you don't have to wait, but I wouldn't count on it.

>>21978500
He shrugged his shoulders. "I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom's realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer's Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content."

>>21975366
Death Gate Cycle

>>21976309
All of them were inspired by Cordwainer Smith, one of the masters of Golden age space opera and he wrote catgurls, so everyone else started writing catpeople because they wanted to homage him but then in went out of control and the furries came in (ie c.j cherryh's chanur series)

I think the adaptation would work better in the style of Arcane instead of live action.

>>21980816
Yes but Sandersnoy is convinced that it's an amazing heist movie that needs the full Oceans 11 treatment

Fantasy and Sci Fi should only explore religious themes.

>>21980866
the bible is a fantasy book

>>21980844
doesn't the heist thing get broken up halfway through? hard to remember

>>21980884
Depends on your definition, but it is certainly "true" while being a "fantasy."

>>21980909
it doesn't matter, sanderson is convinced it's the greatest heist story ever told and only a proper hollywood heist flick can capture what makes it great

>>21980920
>>21980909
>>21980844
>>21980816
Can you talk about another author who isn't god awful at writing? Do people just like bland, simple prose with anime animes? Is that all I need besides the LDS connections to make it as a millionaire?

>>21980925
Oh have a cry
>g-guys can we please talk about someone else!
You start faggot

>>21980927
Okay. Anyone like Tanith Lee? Her prose is quite interesting and slightly poetic, while the worldbuilding doesn’t suffer for it. It’s sad we don’t encourage people experimenting more with writing now.

>>21980927
Percy Shelly wrote Frankenstein and you can't convince me otherwise.

They don’t make sci fi fantasy like this anymore because we’re POZZED

>>21980933
>her
Stopped reading there

Thoughts on the Malazan audiobooks?

>>21980962
You stopped reading every novel you ever picked up, and that's why you're on /sffg/ making the same inane jokes day in and day out.

>>21974244
I’m reading the Fafhrd and The Gray Mouser stories for the first time and I just finished Adept’s Gambit and it sucked ass. I understand it was an early work, but Lieber should have left it out of the anthologies.

>>21980990
>audiobooks
not my preferred style but you do you

>>21981003
>You
Stopped reading there

>>21975399
Pretty hard to go back and read these as an adult, they are pretty basic. The top tier illustrations by the Bros. Hildebrandt are an excellent addition to the novels if you can find the illustrated versions. Better to give to kids.

>Master, This Poor Disciple Died Again Today
I've noticed this story pop up again and again on Royalroad. The title of it told me to stay away, but I eventually decided to give it a shot.

I regret it. The style and grammar are good, the worldbuilding is fine, but the characters and the story are awful. This is one of the worst protagonists I've ever read. He seems to have no real positives and is just unlikeable. He doesn't have loyalty, smarts, curiosity, talent or anything else really. He wasted an entire 10 years in the story doing absolutely nothing useful. How do people enjoy this type of novel?

>>21976744
Robert Reed's Marrow is good, well described environments in an ultra massive spaceship. The sequels fall off, but the short stories and novellas are all good.
Generally ignored author, but he is talented.

>>21981177
>He seems to have no real positives and is just unlikeable.
>He doesn't have loyalty, smarts, curiosity, talent or anything else really.
>He wasted an entire 10 years in the story doing absolutely nothing useful.
Wow, he's literally (and I mean literally) me.

>>21980350
Ehh, God Emperor ties it all together and has the best prose of all of them but it is a slog. Worth it to make it to the last two books and the non stop hyper intrigue/violence/ninja/sex. Heretics and Chapterhouse are really something else.

Since there's no books I want to read I guess it's fanfiction or royalroad

>>21981248
There’re*
Maybe pick up a book sometime!

>>21981287
Contractions are terrible and "there're" is some special kind of terrible. Contractions being spoken lead to lazy writers like the frogposter above and the millions of proud "should of" users.
We should return to physically beating grammar into children at public schools.

>>21976908
id say mistborn is slightly above average. storm light is below average. his work output is great but he will never be a steven erikson

I'm surprised I made it though Egan's Zendegi, it was alright. Tons of Iranian politics and culture, which was interesting at first, but got old once the dad and son were in VR world and reliving old Iranian/Persian tales. I loved Permutation City and I'm willing to give him another shot - how is Diaspora? people seem to talk about that one a lot.

>>21977292
swap book of the new sun with malazan

R8 my tat lit. I’m an Aquillonian

>>21981194
>someone else in this general finally read the Great Ship books

>>21981315
Diaspora is easily his best novel, and I think it's much better than Permutation City, which has cool ideas diluted in a bunch plenty of filler and topped with a clusterfuck ending.

Opinions on The Last Ringbearer, a published fan-fiction of Lord of the Rings?

>>21981331
Why would you ever permanently ink this on your body?

>>21981493
Have not read this one, but I have Nik Perumov's hardcover translations of his LotR series.

>>21980933
>Plains's
I know that's not technically incorrect but it always bothers me when that isn't just written as
>Plains'

>>21981375
nice, thanks. what's the overall idea / plot of the novel? I don't want to look online and spoil anything. do I need to brush up on my lack of quantum physics knowledge..

>>21976744
>spooky and mysterious environments
hard sci fi, very weird and unusual setting

>>21981315
Quarantine.

>>21980866
This is why I love John Crowley and Wolfe

>>21981375
>>21981315
>As of 2015, Egan lives in Perth. He is a vegetarian[3][10] and an atheist.[11]
Are there any non gay hard sci fi writers?

>>21981623
>what's the overall idea / plot of the novel?
The world is post-post Permutation City - almost every "human being" existing is a simulation ("citizen") assembled by other simulations, with exception of some weirdos hard-wired into robotic platforms ("gleisners") and even fewer biological humans (turbo-wierdos, and I don't reember how they are called in the book). Nobody is very bothered to really do anything for any reasons other than artistic self-expression or scientific research, everyone's just straight chillin'. Extrasolar exploration and colonization is considered cringe.

Our protag is a simulation boi assembled by the data center he inhabits (polis) out of pure random seeds, with no input from "parent" citizens, as influx of such new random folks - called orphans - is considered healthy for the culture. His name is Yatima and he loves him some math.

Turns out our solar system is a fuck due to imminent gamma bursts. Some folks including out orphan boi figure out that it's time to get the fuck outta Dodge. Intraplanetary and multidimensional shenanigans ensue.

Re-reading New Sun and seeing a lot of stuff GRRM lifted from Wolfe into Ice and Fire for the creation of three characters

The most notable one being Jon Snow the guild is almost similar to the Night's Watch in a lot of ways. Both wear black and both Severian, and Jon are gifted special swords both come back from the dead too.

Severian and Arya are both trained in the art of assassination and receive a special coin one from Jaqen the other from Vodalus

Severian has repeated his life over and over potentially countless times until he users in the New Sun. There.is a theory Bran is the mystical 3RE who for some reason has went back to trigger possibly specific events either to grow his own power or to prevent some sort of catastrophe from happening in the near future maybe related to The Others

>>21981722
Greg Egan is way too much of a math-autistic bugman to ever participate even homosexual sex. He's one of the only 5 people in history that actually succeeded in actually irreversibly scrubbing all of their photographic images from the Internet.

>>21981732
All of those pictures were of him having gay sex.

>>21981729
Definitely not the only one of his peers he lifted from. Now there is no one good enough alive to do so. No wonder he stopped writing.

>>21975366
I haven't read them yet but I've read some good things about the Winter of the World by Michael Scott Rohan. Got them on my bookshelves but haven't started them yet

>>21981729
>Both wear black
>both are gifted special swords
>receive a special coin
It's almost like this is some mythical archetype shit typical for cool badass dudes...

>come back from the dead
It's almost like this is some religious archetype shit typical for holy prophet dudes...

My man you got filtered hard. GRRM did not lift shit from BotNS - GRRM enacted a number of the traditional, deeply-codified narratives, which are the same ones that Wolfe deliberately fucks about with in BotNS.

>>21978141
To anyone still on the fence about whether or not this is paranoid, get this. I'm in a Facebook group for independent writers to share their current works, questions, etc. There was a post that had a dude talking about the book he was writing and how he gave it to his beta readers. I shit you not, he apparently got an overwhelming response by the beta readers that "it all sounded too white", including the prose and characters.

I'm not even white but holy shit. How the fuck is that even a critique? I don't get it

>>21981728
wonderful

>>21978604
Holy shit. It's almost as if there's a pattern going on...

>>21980866
dangerously based

>>21980884
The Bible is "myth", not "fantasy", and I do not use myth in the pejorative sense of meaning the same thing as fantasy, i.e. something deliberately made up. Myth can contain fantasy, and fantasy can refer to myth, but they are not the same thing.

>>21981729
>wolfe invented wearing black and special swords
by those standards wolfe plagiarised elric because elric wears black and has a special sword
retard

>>21981778
I’d never join a group like that anon. Most of those writers don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. But that is highly disturbing, to hear that from beta readers. I heard it straight from an agent’s mouth in person.

>>21981872
The point is that nothing Martin did is new and original at all. He’s a hack.

>>21981898
Why couldn't we apply those same standards to Wolfe?
Using your standards I could say that severian is an elric ripoff and that wolfe's setting is a zothique and dying earth clone

>>21981918
My standards say that even Tolkien is a hack, stealing directly in many cases from Irish mythology. But he at least had shame enough to invent languages and manipulate the material enough so that it is hard to recognize it. Martin just ripped it. Lazy fuck.

>>21981943
So is wolfe a hack or no
We know wolfe took a lot from the dying earth so by your standards wolfe must be a hack

>>21979010
Sounds cool

>>21982155
Just read a chapter where the one main character after taking the city, kills the Shah's (king) whole family including women, children and even newborn babies in graphic detail trying to get him to swear his faith on another god. Got to admit that was pretty fucked up shit to read.

What are some other great stories involving picts?

>>21975356
One of the prequel novels to the dread empire series is basically all set in the not-middleeast
Sorcery is kinda popular, young boy gets a vision from God and then goes on an anti-sorcery jihad

>>21982647
Got that book for free from the authors website by signing up to his news letter.

I'd already started reading the first book so decided to read it after that before starting the second book.

>>21981806
Don't you mean mythos, fagget?

>>21982716
No, he doesn't.

>>21982716
No(ggerman)

>>21974339
How is Between Two Fires? It seems interesting.

>>21982506
rudyard kipling

>>21982760
it isn't, it's edgelord revisionist trash with gay priests

>>21977292
Both your charts are gay. Something something your charts are gay with lots of quotations and a recommendation to fuck off.

>>21983024
What are you talking about, both of those charts are excelent.

Make a new thread

>>21983282
"No"

new
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>>21983306
>>21983306

>>21982693
It's a prequel, I'd read it in release order desu. Ruins some of the mystery you learn in the first three books.

>>21981898
>The point is that nothing Martin did is new and original at all. He’s a hack.
Quite the opposite. Martin didn't do anything new, he just did it better. I wish more writers would try to do that. There are far too many 'quirky' novels out there, but few that try to do better than the rest.