/lit/ - Literature

where is the new wandering inn chapter...
he's taking too many damn breaks lately.

books for this feel?

Veins of Gold was one of the most emotional and inspirational chapters I read at the time but now that I'm older and more cynical I can't help but laugh that Rand's big revelation is literally "Live. Laugh. Love."

But I still like it. Fuck you.

I'm reading picrel. Twenty pages in, and so far, it's shit. Who cares about the jibber-jabber and haditch-patch or whatever. Also, cliche villains sitting around talking about their plans, come on, is this the best sci-fi can do? Although I already want to bone the MILF.

>>21958204
if you dont like it by 20 pages you're not going to like it.

Post your Sandershelf

>>21958040
Ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy.........

>>21958244
More like Kushiel's dank kušys.

>>21958075
Eragon

>>21958383
You telling me he got his elf waifu in the end?

>>21958075
>replace sun with dark evil foggy nights
>replace smile with stone cold stare
>replace woman with sex slave
Kane

>>21958075
The Destroyer

>>21958244

>>21958388
Never finished it but apparently she fucks off and Eragon is forever alone.

>>21958430
>denied elf waifu oneitis
Off, grimdark even.
But according to wiki they just end it on ''wait and see'', so maybe there is hope.

>>21958204
>sci-fi
Dune is space fantasy.

>>21958460
More like sci-fi is fantasy.

250 or so pages into the way of kings and it's not bad, just wish the story would hurry the fuck up a bit

>>21958075
Pretty much any japanese work.

>>21958040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6O1o3hGgtQ
Oh, /sffg/, it seems I might have to read PKD as I listen to synthwave. Oh my. Oh me!

Are the R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms books good?

>>21958204
It is not action adventure, my guy. It is ecology and politics and building the fremen culture.
It is going to filter your ass real hard if you didn't already like the gom-jobbar.
Ever sift sand through a screen?
If that line doesn't get you, then just put it down and go back to harry potter, please.

>>21958635
DnD shit all comes from other fantasy novels, so just read those.

>>21958244
A book about prostitutes with no sex scenes, incredible

>>21958075
The Faerie Queene

>>21958651
Still amazes me that CAS was overlooked.

>>21958460
All literature is fantasy.

>>21958707
What, really? I actually have one of those books but never read it.

>>21958773
I sped-read it looking for something to jerk off to and there was NOTHING

Despite not being sexy at all the book was still creepy and gross

>>21958791
>still creepy and gross
how so

>>21958405
That sounds amazing. Just asking to make sure: you mean the Kane series by Karl Edward Wagner, right?

>>21958075
belgariad desu (except Ce'nedra is a petite elf waifu and doesn't have huge boobs)

>>21958821
No, he means Caine.

>dark
>monolithic
>esoteric
>ethereal
>instilling a sense of mild dread

Any books with this feel?

>>21958791
> I sped-read it looking for something to jerk off to and there was NOTHING
clearly you missed all the BDSM sex scenes.

>>21958833
The Book of the New Sun and The Book of the Short Sun

>>21958833
House on the Borderland
At the Mountains of Madness
Magus
Book of the New Sun
God's Demon

>>21958843
He needs Long Sun before Short Sun or it doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>21958040
Do you guys read on your phone? I just started reading Red Rising and it’s absolutely amazing so far but I can’t imagine reading the whole thing on a screen. I always want to get a physical copy but that defeats the purpose of why I want to read on a phone in the first place (save money and space). How do you do it?

>>21958854
That’s true. I didn’t list it because Long Sun doesn’t really fit what he described.

>>21958635
Yes. Salvatore is obviously no genius writer but he is something of a master of pulp. Especially after reading other dnd novels (dark sun, dragonlance) I've really become quite enamored and impressed with how rock solid Salvatore's pacing and action is. His books really are nonstop entertainment. And his characters might be simple but they're not the empty, forgettable simple of that other trash, they're the emblematic, archetypical kind of simple like a great Saturday morning cartoon, like Batman TAS or Gargoyles.

>>21958858
I used an app called moon reader but you should just get a kindle to be honest.

>>21958865
I like moon reader a lot. The paid version was a good investment.

>>21958863
Urth fits his description best to be honest and he still needs New Sun before it.

>>21958803
It's a book about training children to be sex slaves to cater to every "kink" the elite might have.

>>21958864
This is probably the best way I've ever heard anyone describe exactly why I love RA Salvatore. Thanks anon.

>>21958864
How is he "not a genius writer" then?

>>21958858
Very rarely. When I'm in a bus station sometimes. But then I tend to browse 4chan, and if I read then it's usually some pdfs.
>>21958879
wtf

>>21958868
I consider Urth to be part of BotNS

>>21958215
Can you imagine actually owning and displaying this slop? And it's all paperback too. I feel ill

>>21958858
just get an e-reader dumbass

>>21958073
>where is the new wandering inn chapter...
>he's taking too many damn breaks lately.
Pirateaba took a break because he's writing Gravesong 2. Sucks a bit, as it's going to be published on Yonder, but as long as the semi-edited drafted gets published for patrons again, I don't mind.

>>21958635
>Are the R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms books good?
No. Absolutely no. Reading the Drizzt series had given me mental damage that I feel to this very day. Unironically, my serious rating scale has the Drizzt Trillogy at its very bottom, a monument to human folly and mockery of the true craft of writing. Salvatore is a hack and should have never been allowed to write. By the Gods, just look at his post-comment at the end of the first book, he speaks about being 'surprised' that in a story you can't just have someone run at a knight with a knife and simply have the character take damage, but actualy see the character dying if the knife hits the throat. Like, this fucking autist was so D&D-brained he was surprised by the rules of reality itself.

To the two anons who recommended I read Lyonesse by Jack Vance: thank you, it was wonderful and not at all what I expected going in. I'm going to be reading more Vance now.

>>21958904
His prose is clunky

>>21958992
any good ones? does /lit/ have a tier list for these? i tend to read on my phone or my pc and i used to read on my old surface tablet, but that was heavy as fuck.
preferrably something waterproof because i also like to read in the tub

>>21959067
Check out The Dragon Masters, that's my favorite Vance but I haven't read Lyonesse yet

>>21959084
I love my kobo libra and the newer ones are waterproof. If you want a kindle or something then idk but kill yourself

>>21959084
I use a Kindle Paperwhite. I use it strictly for books and I have never turned the wifi on.

I am going in blind. He has been memed so hard that I am finally falling for it and taking the plunge. I am autistic and only read hardcovers so I am getting these three right now and will either think it is the greatest thing ever or burn them when done.

>>21958210
Shit I wondered about that
>>21958460
Wait, so is it sci-fi or not
>>21958638
My friend swears by it but he also dislikes Shakespeare so I don’t know how this is going to go, but Harry Potter, KEK, I’d rather put myself through reading Proust than that

>>21958635
R. A. Salvatore is one of the most braindead writers of prose ever to live. It is fully possible that the stories he tells may be good; I cannot tell for certain because his writing style is so monumentally stupid and infantile you actually lose I.Q. points by reading it, absolutely agonizing to get through. He makes Ernest Hemingway look loquacious by comparison, you'll get a more intellectually stimulating experience by reading See Spot Run.

>>21958833
night land

>>21959067
god bless

>>21959084
do it NOW, easily one of the best purchases you can make.
and you can't really make a bad choice with current e-readers, it's not like computer parts or phones.

look up comparison videos on youtube if you care about the software menus, features, etc.

>>21959131
>>21959142
>>21959355
leaning towards a kobo libre 2, but in the back of my mind i'm thinking that i could just as well buy a budget tablet instead. dunno if it's worth the price desu..

>>21959431
the difference is the fact that a tablet's just another screen blaring at your eyes while the e-ink technology is pretty much like looking at paper. idk how this kobo libre thing works but i need a night light to be able to read my kindle, it's much more gentle on the eyes.
you're going to be saving thousands through piracy and it's going to be with you for years so no point in getting hung up on price

>>21959431
it's worth it.
there's no going back to reading on lcd screens after you try e-ink.

dittoing the above anon.
piracy and they last forever. I'm using a 9 year old paperwhite 2 and the battery has lost a tiny amount of max charge, if any, despite sitting for literal years on my shelf in an uncharged/dead state collecting dust. e-readers are fucking tanks.
if you're extremely strapped for cash you can drop the waterproof requirement and get a used paperwhite 2 or 3 off ebay or something for very cheap

>>21959431
Don't buy a kindle, their devices are good but the software is terrible, kobo runs android so you can use whatever reader you want and there is a ton of customisation options and features.
I have a paperwhite 3, I had it jailbroken and it is still garbage, kindle jb are basically simple apps that run on top of native os, they tend to run out of memory and crash constantly, also you cannot really change any system settings for example changing and adjusting touchcreen area to do different things. Kobos which run on android are simply a better choice given that they use same eink screen technology.

>>21959524
>>21959476
but how much difference does the e-ink make when reading during the night with only the backlight? wouldn't it be pretty much the same? of course it being lighter and bigger is appealing, but still.
also they look kinda laggy. all these things kept me from getting one so far.

>been reading the witcher
>interesting chapter about snow white
>cursed princess who ran away from mother and socially retarded wizard
>princess grows up and chases the wizard to kill him in revenge
>geralt kills her and her squad before they can butcher the town to get to the wizard
>silly dramatic ending with the town banishing him before even letting him explain

>remember netflix made a witcher series
>read about the snow white episode
>they changed the story to the wizard now being evil and chasing the princess because men bad
ah, now i recognize california again

>>21959556
Eink screen are not transparent and they are not backlit, there are tiny leds at the bottom and the top of the screen which then illuminate the top layer/coating on the eink screen. The difference is huge compared to an lcd, it is more or less the same when you illuminate and actual paper with light except you can easily adjust how much light you want it, the color tempereture etc.

>>21959160
Let us know how it goes, anon. You’ve a brave heart.

>>21959567
I watched two episodes and dropped it instantly after the second one, the hacks butchered the story into a meaningless slaughter with next to no subtlety or nuance. How can someone fuck word by word source material this badly?

>>21959556
NO

e-readers/e-ink is lightless technology, unlike lcd screens where the backlight is an inherent part of the screen/image display.
the "light" you see advertised on e-readers is a separate F R O N T light that sits atop the screen itself and shines across the screen, it's not a BACKlight that is inherent to the workings of the display.
this is *why* e-ink is better, because it's not backlit image display.

this frontlight is akin to taking the lamp above your head/shoulder, shrinking it down, and sticking on the inside bezel of your device, which of course you just turn off when you're reading in sunlight.

I beg you bro please do not get a tablet

>>21959556
>laggy
nigga it's a book

>>21959567
This is why I never bothered with the show, as I knew it would be tainted. The book on the other hand is quirky and fun with its odd inversions of fairytales. Don’t bother with the main series though. The story works best in the last wish and sword of destiny because it’s still about Geralt hunting monsters. The main series is almost like a completely different book series.

>>21959581
>How can someone fuck word by word source material this badly?
By intentionally altering it in order to spite the fans (and apparently actors).

if the characters in the book don't have sex then i'm not reading it

>>21959355
How much should I pay for a used e-reader, a paperwhite for example? Can you directly download books from libgen or other sites on it?

This is really fucking good.

>>21959581
I think I watched 20 mins of first ep, I think Gerald was in some town or village and already the plot was about some roastie and some wizard(?) I didn't pay too much attention to it but from the beginning it was about some woman and geralt simping, I dropped it then and there.

>>21959555
I've used a regular Paperwhite for several years, probably since the middle of last decade, and I've never had any issues with random crashing. How about you don't buy jailbroken shit and do it yourself if it's that big of an issue? Just don't turn wifi on and use the e-reader as a (wait for it) e-reader.

Guys, a long time ago I read almost all of the Isaac Asimov's Galactic Empire cycle, but lost interest around Foundation and Earth. Are the rest any good?

>>21959716
I meant that the jb apps crash regularly, the kindle software runs fine however it is extremely limited, the number one thing I hate about kindle and pw3 is that tapping the left side of screen will go page back, in other words If I am holding the kindle with left hand hand then I cannot turn the page forward.

>>21959584
>>21959596
>>21959573
huh, the more you know.
i didn't think it would be that different. guess i'll give it a shot

>>21959084
I'm a huge fan of the new paperwhites, the screen yellowing slider is fantastic for late night reading and side loading with Calibre is braindead easy

>>21959725
None of the ones after the original trilogy are any good, they were a cash grab.

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>>21959605
>>21959567
Just read Elric instead

>a time traveller did it
>a shapeshifter did it

Way to make the entire series up until now meaningless, Wolfe.

>>21959695
jewish literature

>>21959895
explain

>>21959899
guy gavriel gay is literally a jew

Opinions on The Barrow by Smylie? Is it YA crap?

>>21959902
Damn, with a name like that I imagine an Angloid demigod.

>>21959902
lol what a complete fucking moron, he's a Christian Anglo-Canadian who writes explicitly Christian literature, you gonna call J.R.R. Tolkien a Hindu next? or are you one of those brainrotted larpagan atheists who screeches "magic jew desert god sky daddy" at everything to do with Christianity

>>21959930
He's literally Jewish. Look it up. Or just look at his face.

>>21959067
Based Vance enjoyer.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oiOt6eW0pZI

>>21959941
It's KAY not KATZ you brainrotted troon

>>21959930
where do you think christianity came from

>>21959974
from the Turks

>>21959067
Try his books on Tschai - fell in love with them as a kid. The first book has this meh sub plot on the flower of Cath, but the storybuilding of the old Chasch civilizations and all the other races in the later books is something I have just rarely come across. Revisit them every few years.

>>21959685
>should
depends on the model age. I remember seeing paperwhite 2 and 3 for like $30 on ebay US.
honestly I would save up and just buy new, it will last you forever anyway

>Can you directly download books from libgen or other sites on it?
not that I know of
you're going to have to plug it into your pc and drag n' drop or use calibre

if you jailbreak it and install KOReader, then you can send stuff from calibre to the kindle over wifi, but again, from your pc

>>21959731
just curious, what apps were you using and how long ago? KOReader used to crash occasionally (memory related like you said) on my paperwhite 2 but a koreader update last year solved it.

>>21960001
Jack Vance

Top 3rd
The Last Castle
Emphyrio
Trullion
Cadwall Chronicles
The Cugel Saga
Ports of Call/Lurulu

Middle 3rd
The Faceless Man trilogy
Rhialto
The Dying Earth
Planet of Adventure
Big Planet

Bottom 3rd
All Magnus Ridolph stories
The Grey Man
The Demon Princes
Lyonesse

Everything else I either haven't read or don't remember

>>21958215
I can't wait to go to Mormon heaven and read new Sanderkino for all eternity

Can anyone recommend some mystical sci-fi or fantasy?

>>21960068
I don't know what you mean by mystical. Radix maybe.

>>21959930
>>21959969
https://www.timesofisrael.com/out-of-this-world/
>Your novel “The Lions of Al-Rassan” is a fantastical rendering of the conflicts between Christians, Muslims, and Jews in medieval Spain.
>Did your own Jewish identity influence your depiction of the Kindath, i.e., Jewish characters in the book?

>"Yes, of course it did." -Guy Gavriel Kay

>>21960033
>$30 on ebay US.
>honestly I would save up and just buy new, it will last you forever anyway
Buying a new kindle is really a waste of money, 30$ for a second hand pw2 or 3 sounds about right, my pw3 is in excelent condition, almost like new and I got it almost at lauch, unlike phones owned by smelly 'jeets, ereader owners tend to somwhat look after them.

>just curious, what apps were you using and how long ago? KOReader used to crash occasionally (memory related like you said) on my paperwhite 2 but a koreader update last year solved it.
I have koreader, to be fair I have not updated it in long time, that might be the reason for crashes, another issue is that its unable to open large files, I have a rather large ~12mb mobi/epub book, no images, just text and it won't open in koreader

>>21960073
>I don't know what you mean by mystical.
I'm not so sure either, to be honest. I guess another word would be "magical." The only real comparison I can think of would be something like Alan Moore's Promethea.

>>21960120
I just thought of some other comparisons, like A Time of Changes and Downward To Earth by Robert Silverberg, or Lavondyss by Robert Holdstock.

>>21959734
Check out the Boox line of ereaders also, I like them better than kindle because you don't have to mess with the calibre program you just drag and drop the file into the reader.

>>21960120
>>21960137
Try reading The Hill of Dreams by Arthur Machen.

>>21959909
judging by that cover yes

>>21959763
MORNING MORNING MORNING!!!!!

>>21958707
>>21958773
>>21958803
>>21958837
>reads a book about BDSM
>finds every scene with a whip creepy and gross and not sexual

Hmmmmmmmm

>>21960302
Good marning sar!

>>21960306
Well, some whips and BDSM is not creepy.

>>21959895
So what did you think of the book when you read it?

>>21959895
How do you feel about this?
> The Silmarillion is a collection of myths and stories in varying styles by the English writer J. R. R. Tolkien. It was edited and published posthumously by his son Christopher Tolkien in 1977, assisted by the fantasy author Guy Gavriel Kay.

Why do fantasy authors love to to include cuck shit?

>>21960462
Because it makes the romance even better.

>>21960407
my guess is an endless repeating litany of "jew jew jew kike cuck jew holohoax jew jew jew goyslop jew jew"

>>21959763
Just dropped reverend insanity. Wasted almost a fucking week reading that trash to chapter 1200.

Very few good moments in my opinion. It went to shit after like chapter 600 or something, after he turned into a zombie. The traslation changed and was even worse and the prose that was already shit also turned much worse. Maybe it was related, because you can see the author stopped trying after Fang Yuan turned into a zombie. Always telling, never showing, terrible perspective changes, omniscient narrator always fucking with you because you don't know if it's the character thinking or not, etc. Very very very amateurish, like 12 yr old writing fanfic shit.

After chapter 500 or something was also when Fang Yuan stopped with the poems and the sparse introspection. The good moments were always when he justified his unreleting chasing of immortality, and the fucked up shit like the girl and the bear and the eating monkey brains thing. That was cool. After chapter 500 he's just a psychopath, and that's fucking boring. Psychopath mcs are terrible because they're basically retards without a huge part of what makes someone interesting or even human. It only worked for some time because of that introspection and the goal, without that it's literally just someone with 1/3 of a nonfunctioning brain.

2/10

>>21960496
>Read 100+ chapters before you drop it
The author already won

What proportion of fantasy to sci fi do you anons read? I read nothing but fantasy, myself. I have never really been able to get into sci fi. Perhaps that is due to my complete disinterest in real science.

>>21958075
Pic related, it's a 6 books series but the two omnibuses are easier to find (and pirate)
Riftwar

>>21959084
Kobo aura one

>>21960529
probably a ratio of 10 fantasy books for every scifi, roughly
it's honestly kinda hard to find good scifi out there, because the overwhelming majority of published SF tends to fall into 3 categories:
>Asimov-era philosophical/conceptual hard SF that typically only appeals to turbo-geeks and literal autists with its glut of unnecessary technical jargon
>gungho braindead military fiction often written by army brats about killings bugs or he-men or something with even more unnecessary technical jargon (but about tactical stuff)
>cyberpunk dystopias about gay black transsexual atheist muslim communists and their inexplicable elf, goblin, orc and minotaur sex partners fighting da corporations and then dying from cyber-AIDS
trying to get something as compelling and creative as Dune or Jurassic Park is a tremendous crapshoot - they are the exception, not the rule

I haven't made one of these in awhile, so here's a book I like, but don't adore.

>>21960462
I certainly don’t, but not all of us can be as unhinged as Richard Bakker.

>>21960587
Bakker? I hardly knew er!

>>21958075
Tarnsman of Gor
>>21959890
that's only the first part of the series

>>21958858
I think less of any person who actually thinks the first red rising is amazing
The whole series was no great, people said it got better and it very mildly got better but it stays YA rubbish

The first book is the worse
I suggest going for a CT scan you may have a growth

I finally have a prologue I'm happy with, only 50+ more chapters to write.

I finished between two fires. I m disappointed that Thomas is now a bugger priest. I loved the epilogue though, a bit sad but the execution was fantastic.

>>21960496
it literally get better again

>>21960656
Nice work, anon! Too bad I'll skip it lol

>>21960656
cute
>>21960658
wtf? dropped

>>21960684
Do people really do that?

>>21958958
You sound jealous anon

Do you guys want to read my royal road fantasy novel?

>>21960772
Does it have incest?

>>21960680
when and why?

>bad half-orc commit crimes against humanity
>crimes include necromancy, forcing his brother into killing a bunch of kids, mass murder, turning people insane including his brother's daughter
>due his daughter being insane, she end up killing herself
>when confronted by the good guys he dares to play the "treason" and "REEE IF YOU KILL ME YOU'RE A KILLER" card
>his dumb brother still fall for it
You can't make this shit up
Also, bad half-orc motivation is looking to stop insanity to he can stop putting his dick in crazy

>>21960785
It actually does.

>>21960785
FUCK
Why do i want a thick white girl for purposes of procreation right now?

>>21960798
sorry anon, but I'm kind of a christian and the most I tolerate is cousinxcousin

Reminder to the Mysteries 2 bros to vote for the novel on webnovel.
>tfw only found out about the author asking for it through pirate sites

When is the E William Brown fagget going to release an audiobook for this Daniel Black System Apocalypse ?

>>21960772
whats it about

>>21960843
WONG'd

>>21960845
He smartly didn't have system or apocalypse anywhere close to the title or series name.

>>21960844
Adah Phenric took a vow to protect the world from any threats when she took an oath as a Knight of Valora. All was well until she and her team were sent on a routine mission to hunt a monster, but things go awry and Adah finds herself to be the sole survivor. Unconvinced her comrades are dead, she ventures out into the world to uncover the reasons for their disappearance. Coming in contact with a mysterious merchant, her investigation leads her to uncover a plot that threatens the world and discover the nature of the Goddess herself. Armed with nothing but her wits, friends, and a bit of magic, Adah commits to bringing the culprits to justice. For duty binds all.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/67568/a-knight-of-valora-serenity

>>21960863
>she
stopped reading right there

>>21959890
I finished it a year ago and I still don't know how I feel about it, I don't know if I ever will. Basically the Twin Peaks season 3 of literature

Any of you read this yet?

>>21960808
What about Lot's Daughters?

>>21960926
I thought about reading it months ago since I could get in advance for free but decided against it.

>>21960942
that whole passage was just to shit on the moabites, it's not supposed to be a positive thing to imply they were born of drunken father-daughter incest

Anything good in the current Audible 2 for 1 sale?

>>21960942
There was an AFK botter I'd always see in Fort Aspenwood (Guild Wars 1 pvp map) named Remember Lot's Wife, who, in addition to simply standing there to soak up passive victories, was also always looking backwards. I think of that guy when I think of biblical stuff.

how is she so based?

>>21960971
Good taste in vidya.
21961123
Shit thread bump.

>>21960956
No

>>21960791
Within 30 chapters Fang Yuan will go to Southern Border, from there on things will pick up again

>>21961123
she intentionally stuck it to white people by making the main character brown and the barbarian savages on the periphery white
extremely powerful

I'd rather take a bullet than be forced to read a Pierce Brown novel

>>21961321
I read this as Pierce Brosnan

>>21959695
Until you actual learn about the cultural and political dynamics of the Iberian Peninsula and realize how much GK whitewashes his "tolerant" muslims and mischaracterizes the not-christians, and that without even going into how utterly irrelevant the medic main character is in the entire plot, her relevance reduced to being the bed-warmer for the movers and shakers of the story.
If I didn't knew better I would even assume it was writen by a middle-aged wine aunt and not a grown ass man.

>>21961388
>until you actually learn
I played the El Cid Age of Empires II: The Conquerors campaign as a kid so I'm already pretty well versed.

Just finished picrel.
How are non-human characters better written than humans?

>>21960572
>>21960529
Read early John Crowley

>>21960796
That's stupid.
>>21961317
Not reading her books then.
>>21961371
The Prince of Architecture, by Pierce Brosnan.

>>21960579
If you encounter a book with "SF Masterwork" on it, 60/40 the book is retarded.

>>21961647
Roadside Picnic and the Stars My Destination, I am Legend, and Flowers for Algernon were SF Masterworks and I enjoyed them.
Their choices for book covers are questionable. Here we have a token female lead whose only purpose is to climb the World Trade Center and look pretty.

>>21958830
>>21958405
>>21958821
I own all of the physical Karl Edward Wagner Novels in Edmonton, Alberta. I'm looking for others constantly. Mirin?

>>21961668
>Their choices for book covers are questionable.
The weird thing is that a lot of the Fantasy Masterworks have great covers.

>>21961816
Case in point.

any fantasy about hunting down powerful unhinged psycho witches with bros devil may cry style?

>>21961834
I wish there was more of this in Lord of the Mysteries

>>21961834
There are Devil May Cry light novels that have been officially translated and published

books with twink protagonist?

>>21958075
A Princess of Mars (Burroughs)

>>21961925
does he fuck the princess?
i aint reading more fantasy novels until i get sex scenes or slavery

Are there any medical fantasy books, like about being a physician in a fantasy world?

>>21961668
Well, you found the /40 part!

>>21961938
Don't know of any that specifically focus on that. Protagonist of the Black Company books is doctor/surgeon, but it doesn't go into the depth of medicine, which I assume you is what you want.

>>21960314
You cannot read Kushiels Dart and think there is no sex in there

>>21958040
FUCK he is good.

>>21961938
There are light novels, manga, and anime about that. Certainly there must also be webnovels and self-published works.

>>21961956
This is the author. Well, when she was younger.
She's probably into kinky sex.

>>21958244
>The Kushiel's Legacy series is set in a medieval world modeled after Earth (the map at the beginning of the novels is a map of Earth, with creatively historically named countries). The main characters are from Terre d'Ange, which occupies the area of France.
Why do Americans do this? How would you feel if we write about America being some low fantasy shitrealm with story set in West Virgil'd Ennia?

>>21961938
Off the top of my head no. The most prominent physician in a fantasy novel I have read was Lions of Al-Rassan. But there are a lot of point of view characters, and her medical practice isn’t the focus of the book.

>>21961938
Outlander, Redo of Healer or the Naruto fanfic Sanitize?

>>21962067
Shouting “heal” and then mind fucking your sex slaves into loving you has very little to do with medicine. Also he asked for a book.

>>21962071
Redo of Healer is a book series

>>21958244
Is this the new King posting? Weird choice.

>>21961963
yummy

>>21961444
>I played the El Cid Age of Empires II: The Conquerors campaign
I kneel before your power and your digits, my liege.

>60 books

As someone who vaguely knows what Warhammer is please explain this bullshit

>>21962124
There's few core books there, a lot of standalones and some compilations.

>>21962125
i guess I picked the wrong image

>>21962124
>>21962132
Explain what specifically? Horus Heresy? It's pure slop that sells to fans of the hobby who buy and read it do express their nerd cred, simple as. Mostly bad slop at that, due to being mass produced by a battalion of bottom-tier authors with serious lacking of self-awareness. It's pretty much directly analogous to old Star Wars EU novels in most of it's characteristics, including like 3-6 books in the entire series actually being rather some ok slop.

Think of these books like they're Nendroid, but British and made out of pages and fanfiction.

>>21962052
>West Virgil'd Ennia
HOLY SOVL AND KINO
>>21962083
Clearly I am a King for posting such gems

>>21962124
>The new light of science shines more brightly than the old light of sorcery. Why, then, do we not seem to see as far?

The series fractures after 3 books. Regains focus in book 51, and concludes in a more focused and continuous 12 part series called The Siege of Terror. Everything in-between is just "What was Aurelius KillMurderfist doing when Swarmbucket the Vile Orificer broke the blockade on Lucifer Prime" side stories that you only read if you are a fan of those characters.

16 books total, still an outrageous amount considering the quality of what you will be reading, but that is basically what it all reduces to.

>>21959763
>>21960302
Was bored this weekend and reread mother of learning.

One thing that stuck out to me a bit was the golem crafting - there was never any real 'training arc' with them like there was with other specialties. For something that he ended up using almost as much as his mind magic, the lack of focus on that area of development was pretty odd. I know a lot of people complain about the story being too long already but I'm an autistic person who is happy to read 50000 words worth of descriptions of magic mechanics at a time so I would have liked to see more of that.

Anyways I need something new to read if anyone has any recommendations

>>21960772
>>21960863
>Do you guys want to read my royal road fantasy novel?
Not really but you were brave enough to throw your hat in the ring so I'll go read it anyways

>>21961938
This sounds like a medical student looking for proscrastin... i mean motivation!

What were they thinking with this cover

>>21962227
That is fucking odd. Great book however.

>>21962124
>>21962132
It still applies. For example, first five books cover the same events from different perspectives for the most part. They're not redundant, but HH as a whole is not some ironclad linear affair where you must read all the books.

>>21961933
They have two kids.

Read and really enjoyed lathe of heaven
How do I into more le guin? Or any other reccos

What is the best elves fantasy? I'm talking classically ethereal high or wood elves type and with possibly lots of material about them

Ahhh we've been using the words wrong! We should be improving our verse, not prose!

>>21962431

Does he just not give a shit anymore?

>>21962496
nope

>>21962496
Never has

>>21962496
Busy with finer things in life.

>>21962431
So even with that guide, you completely failed to understand the difference. Pathetic.

>>21962496
the more he drank the less he shat

>>21962534
powerful

>>21962430
Shes overdressed

>>21962514
Who are those two men in the top left of the thought bubble on the left? I keep forgetting their names. And who is the chick in Martin‘s bubble?

>>21962565
Guy on the top left is Heinlein, I'm pretty sure.

>>21960921
I thought about it, and you're right.

>>21960921
Perfect analogy

Just finishes Fall of Hyperion. If Dan Simmons doesnt have a hidden library of lewd John Keats erotica, Id be extremely surprised. The book is basically,
>kino shrike stuff
>kino galactic war stuff
>time to suck off John Keats again
>glack glack glack glack glack
>AI v human hyperwar kino
>gluck gluck gluck
>OH YEA LIL 5 FOOT MAN DEEEEEEPER OH MY GOD
>jews complaining and getting cucked by mudslimes
>L O V E

I give it a 4/5 on Good Reads

>>21962766
reads like a shitty IGN review

>>21959890
I just finished this last night, you're not wrong, but I still enjoyed it quite a bit. Severian is such a good character.

I'll probably start Long Sun today.

>>21961933
The fuck and they have kids, they are the protagonists of some of the sequels

>>21962766
>>gluck gluck gluck
what

>>21962788
GLURP GLURP
GLURP GLURP

>>21962778
You have to read through book of the new sun/Urth over again at least one more time before moving on to Long and Short. Also be a faggot and read through it with those Alzabo soup podcast cucks.

>story about lesbian necromancers in a grimdark Warhammer-like universe
Necromancers are my favorite class in video games, did I get baited by my librarian, or do those books deliver and my wild teen wet dreams will come true?

>>21963065
Sounds like you will like it. Personally, I won't read anything with a female MC especially a lesbian (which are just as real as necromancers)

>>21963065
I've read two excerpts of Gideon the Ninth and both were fucking abysmal. On top of that, the three people I've talked about it to have all agreed that it is trash of the highest order.

is there a single past 90s fantasy book worth reading
don't answer if true

>>21960428
Imagine being the assistant of not even an author but a guy just compiling what's already written lmao

>>21963102
Those three people are idiots. The books may not be to everyone's tastes but they are definitely not trash.

>>21963065
Tone down your coomer expectations, they are not smut. Plenty of necro stuff though.

>>21963065
>>21963085
>>21963102
>>21963184
I have about as much respect for Gideon the Ninth as I do for the dogshit on my shoe. It is reddit. It is video game hot pocket. It is capeshit. It is cheeto dust. I'm literally screaming right now and slamming my arms down on my desk just thinking about it. It is the most depraved video game infantilized manchild degeneracy. It is saturday morning cartoon. It is non-neurotypicality. It is memes. It is video game. It is tarantino. It is imdb.
It is coca-cola puberty. it is axe body spray. it is a white stain on boxer shorts. it is arri alexa hot dog caffeine on disney channel.

>>21962514
preston jacobs is a faggot who doesn't even like fantasy

>>21963204
I don't like him either, but it was just a meme.

>>21963212
I know. I just wanna say how much I despise him. The faggot will make hour long ridiculous convoluted theories for why asoiaf is actually sci fi because deep down he thinks the fantasy genre is silly, despite being a fantasy youtuber. Actually pathetic.

>>21963224
Tell him that sci fi is fantasy too.

>>21963199

>>21963265
okay reddit

>>21962565
the chick in martin's bubble is sibel kikelli, she's a turkish former pornstar after a nose job who played a prostitute the dwarf in the game of thrones show fell in love with
rumor is grrm hired her because of her "looks" and then became smitten with her

>>21963065
>female author
you know better than that dawg

>>21963228
Everything is fantasy. Especially realism.

>>21963272
Where do whores go?

>>21963297

>>21962766
yeah usually you expect genre authors to be kind of up-front and transparent with their fetishes, that's nothing new. but what you get out of hyperion in terms of fetishistic worship is
>keats
>jews
it's kind of weird

but if you read the endymion books, you get to find out what simmons' real fetish is

>>21963065
I've only read Gideon and a bit of Harrow, but it definitely reads like it was written by somebody who used to write Homestuck fanfiction. I generally like the characterisation, but the utilisation of the characters is very weird, especially in Gideon. Basically it's a murder mystery, where the protagonist, Gideon, spends basically the entirety of the book not participating in said mystery while it just kind of happens around her. It's interesting in a way, but it makes for a really mundane first read. I've heard Harrow is a bit better about having the protagonist actually be involved in things, but it's still very weird.

>>21963301
What kind of man brings his wife and his whore?

>>21963297
Pretty plain jane for a woman who's had plastic surgery.

>>21963307
Disgusting.

>>21963297
insane how good a literal former porn star who whored herself out to an ugly old bastard and a couple of jews for a bit role is at presenting the outward appearance of a perfectly normal pleasant and attractive woman in her 30s. just look at that cute sweater

maybe women really are that good at dissociating from their former behavior. maybe to her her pornstar self was another person entirely and she's just a different sibel now, unaffected at all by her previous behavior. or maybe they're just that good at faking it.

>>21962124
It’s just a popular series that the IP holders have a pretty easy license policy. Most of it is nonsensical fanfic. Some of it is probably good though. Like Star Wars books

>>21963351
I dunno anon, I dunno.

>>21958828
What's other notable stereotypical slop like this? I'd prefer something that's not YA, Belgariad does feature violence and horny.

>>21963297
>>21963301
YJK

>>21963363
codex alera

>>21963365

>>21960462
write what you know

>>21963182
I think it would have been really cool to help edit the Silmarillion desu

>>21963363
David Eddings' other books, particularly the Sparhawk trilogies
you might like Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series (I didn't) because they're basically Harry Potter written by someone who isn't mentally retarded

>>21958075
>271 replies
>no Gor
You literally drew pic related. Zoomers should definitely read it so that they can become more sexually aggressive.

>>21963452
You're blind >>21960605

>>21963452
>Transman
No thanks.

>>21963452
I just forgot about it. It did have few nicer fap scenes, and ironically noblewoman dominating another noblewoman was the hottest part in one of the books.
But frankly why I remember Gor is because author actually finds a working and reasonable enough of an explanation as to why technological level in Gor is the way it is. I wish more fantasy authors paid attention to that.

>>21963452
>37 books
>last one came out last year
>dude is alive at 91
Dang, this series is commitment.

>>21963452
>Tarnsman of Gor John Norman The Chronicles o Counter-Earth
what the fuck is this title.

>>21963452
Was it Moorishcock that had a melty over these books? Yet despite him white knighting it's the women who like these books the most and shlick off to them.

>Moorcock
Is any of his work Shakespearean?

>>21963750
Shakespeare is the only Shakespearean work and anyone who claims otherwise is a retard.

>>21963750
Is the evil sword a metaphor for an overbearing mommy though?

Can anyone recommend a book/series similar to Iain M Banks Culture?

>>21962124
It's not a series it's more like Marvel Comics. It's all in the same setting but you just pick and choose based on what interests you.

>>21963307
A king

>>21963833
40k is also inspired heavily off of 2000 AD comics. So, good comparison.

>>21963452
Can't swipe books 36 and 37. Guess I'll have to buy them if I like the series. Jezzus.

>>21962564
She's meeting her husband for their anniversary.

>>21963750
He tried so hard for outer /lit/ but that's what sealed him in the ghetto. Some people love him, I guess.

>>21963452
>The Gor series repeatedly depicts men abducting and physically and sexually brutalizing women, who grow to enjoy their submissive state.
Absolute based, pirating everything, ima read every book.

>>21963984
>The Gor novels have been criticized for their focus on relationships between dominant men and submissive women, the latter often in positions of slavery. The Encyclopedia of Fantasy has stated that the first several books are "passable exercises" of Edgar Rice Burroughs-style fiction while "later volumes degenerate into extremely sexist, sadomasochistic pornography involving the ritual humiliation of women, and as a result have caused widespread offence".

Ultra based

>>21963065
shouldn't this be
>Gideon the Ninth
>Gideon the Tenth
etc?

>>21963994
>caused widespread offence
Uh huh, but women kept reading them.

>>21963994
The sci-fi version featuring latex-clad women and horny AI is even better.

>>21964009
No because it's not the same character, retard. But all the characters are in the Ninth House, which is where the epithet comes from. Why comment if you're just going to be stupid?

>>21964009
No, Gideon/Harrow/Nona are about those respective characters who all come from the Ninth world.

What are some exit-tier works of genre fiction? Book of the New Sun is close but not quite up there; Barefoot in the Head comes to mind, and Dhalgren too

This shits all over Dune and BotNS, god damn. Surprised it's not mentioned here more.

>>21964031
Absolutely devilish, anon.

>>21964031
you're baiting but the eye of argon honestly isn't that bad for being written by a 16 year old

>>21964031
I remember this

I officially like this again. Maybe even second to DCC among the big ongoing western litrpgs. Defiance seems tapped out. TWI is endless melodrama. Infinite Realm and Primal Hunter are probably peers for managing this sort of sprawling mess.

It clawed its way out of the dead-end Earth arc and got its sense of fun back. It's loose and playful. The author seems to have grown up a bit and is now aware of when he's indulging himself with his politics and knows how to take the cringe out of it. The MC has a new skillset to play with, so it's not the same old plague kill every time. Though there's still quite a bit of same old. It's a 9-volume shaggy dog tale, make no mistake. But if you liked it in the beginning and fell off during the detour to Earth, and you have a tolerance for these sorts of stories, you might like it again.

>>21964129
That's interesting to know, but I'm kind of curious if the author ever realised that Jason's major character flaw (never knows when to shut up) is only a flaw if he ever actually gets into trouble because of it. Because that stuck with me after a while. I can respect Jason being a flawed dipshit sometimes, but it became more and more clear that it wasn't actually seeming like a flaw, more like he was just "an actually correct dipshit all the time". I dropped it during the Earth stuff too because good god nothing fucking happens of interest there.

dcc 6 july 1

>>21964135
Well on the last Earth book he mouthed off to a minor deity and lost his one extra life in a one-shot kill. I took that as a yes on this myself.

>>21964129
You enjoyed it? Even after the book was basically a therapy session every chapter? And him breaking down to show how human he is (such emotion much feels many wows)?
I don't know about you, but the how the book started with recapping shit, and then side characters bringing up shit that happened books before to pad the pages, I would say this book was shit. I read fantasy to get away from real life shit, Jason being emo every fucking book and breaking down is getting tiring. It was okay for a book or two, but since those three literally filler earth books, Jason has being a moping pussy that cries all the time.
No one wants to read someone breaking down every fucking chapter then going to mommy therapist to discuss muh mental health.

>>21960068
The audible versions are solid

>tell girl I'm dating my true name
>"oh...thanks..."

>>21964129
>Earth arc
that has only ever been novel when i first saw it in digimon back in the day. it has never been good ever since. anywhere.

>>21963452
Will be reading this, sounds cool. Seems like Conan but less palpable for normies
>t. zoomer

>>21964031
this book is unironically better written than Bakker

>>21964205
Gor is pretty bad to be honest and I say this as a woman beating appreciator.

>>21964160
But by the end he was quite confident in his choice to cross his boundaries and soul-torture the pixie chick into submission, and doesn't go all emo after it. Felt like this installment was about him putting that one step further behind him, even though I expect it'll function as a Tony Soprano plot device here and there in the future.

>>21964031
>16 year old writes fantasy story for some shitty fantasy mag
>a bunch of middle aged men say it is the worst thing ever written and spend literal decades making copies to sell and do ironic live readings at cons
>16 yo is shamed and never writes anything ever again
>finally read it a few years ago after hearing how awful it is for years
>it's bad but not even as bad as some things major publishers have released
>when considering a kid wrote it it is actually pretty decent
i genuinely don't understand how anyone can in good faith claim the eye of argon is the worst thing ever written. i can only assume the whole thing got started by bitter middle-aged losers upset that the initial magazine published a story from a teenager instead of them.

>>21964294
Probably at least in part bullied to an early death too!

>>21964289
The next is later this year (November I think), I'm 100% sure all the progress made at the end of book 9 will be thrown out the window in book ten. They author always does this shit, ends the book making you think that things will be better in the next book, or that this was a step to building a foundation for a better future, then he throws everything away at the start of the next book. Book eight gave you some positive vibes, then book 9 was business as usual with mopey Jason and emo shit. If you like emo shit and broken protags, more power to you, but I do not enjoy such.

>>21964287
What about Princess of Mars? Both seem to be similar

>>21964294
>Sometime in the 1970s, science fiction author Thomas N. Scortia obtained a copy, which he mailed to Californian writer Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. She showed it to others, and it was met with a tremendous and incredulous reaction.
So, a writer of pure b-grade shlock and a tarot-reading wine aunt who participated in "spirit-channeling" sessions bullied a teen who just wanted to write fun shit

>>21964294
I agree, it's retarded that certain works and individuals are used as sacrificial lambs i.e. William McGonagall, where it's deemed acceptable to throw abuse their way. The quality comes secondary to the fact that they actually tried, as gay as that may sound. Maybe I just have a tendency to worship the underdog, as I have no qualms in lambasting established works.

New thread boys (third time in a row!)
>>21964437

>>21964323
Do you honestly not think the author has grown at all since his pure proxy voice days in the early books? I mean like this guy says >>21964135. I mean obviously he's an autistic horsefucker so he's not going to turn into Socrates, but I felt like the therapy volumes were him turning that ship around and he can take some of the worst aspects of the early volumes and play them off for fun now. Maybe he was in therapy irl and it worked, but with that caveat of people in therapy have to talk about therapy. I don't know. I just know those middle volumes were dreary and my engagement has only increased since he returned from Earth.

>>21964445
We're only on page 5, bruv.

>>21964338
I'm not a fan of PoM but Burroughs has writing talent while Gorman does not.

>>21963204
I thought preston jacobs was black

>>21964031
It may have the wrong words used and the plot may have crashed towards the end, but it had soul, passion, and is an impressive piece of writing for a teen.

>>21958040
I've been reading REH's Conan stories and they're fantastic, is there anything else that captures a similar feel I can read next?

>>21964893
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser by Fritz Leiber
Jirel of Joiry by C. L. Moore
Kane by Karl Edward Wagner
Elric of Melnibone by Michael Moorcock
Imaro by Charles R Saunders

>>21964893
Also everything else by Robert E Howard, specially Solomon Kane, Kull and Bran Mak Morn.

I noticed Sword and Sorcery stuff is what the cool people of fantasy recommend

Any vamp lit with a male human MC and a female vampire romantic partner?

>>21958204
Dune 2 is better

>>21965097
I don't know of any, closest might be those vampire novels for Warhammer Fantasy, but I think they had female vampire MC. Or maybe several POVs.

>>21965097
there's japanese stuff, fanfics, and twilight reimagined

>>21958204
>Twenty pages in

Know what I like about sci-fi?
Every book has you convinced, "Ah, yes, this is how aliens must evolve and act, it makes perfect sense!" and every book is different.
>Read Blindsight
Oh wow, they're just mostly nerves and atp and they don't understand "self" so they're perfect cells for the organism whole.
>Read Project Hail Mary
Ah yes, talking with aliens would be easy! The sound of 2 rocks touching would sound the same on every planet, the footsteps of a predator. So we all hear!

Also I started reading Hail Mary because some anon spoilered You blew out a scab and it almost killed me.
For the entire book I thought the protagonist was going to be talking to a giant cloud, like a whole system was an alien or the whole atmosphere of a planet was an alien. It's still a good book, but...

Any books where the aliens are like that? Gaseous?

The fuck happened

>>21965402
? am I supposed to know who this is?

>>21965330
>Any books where the aliens are like that? Gaseous?
Fart aliens? Brapaliens?

>>21965402
generational trauma from the holocaust

>>21965402
Probably content burnout

>>21965402
he read his reviews

>>21965402
man made $120k off shitty amazon kindle novellas cause of yewtube networking

>>21965480
how

>>21965501

>>21965097
>>>/a/

>>21965506
damn his book is shit and it really is that easy to make money from fame alone

booktok was a mistake

>>21965653
The fuck is booktok?

>>21965653
video reviews in general were a mistake

>>21965658
booktube but for tiktok I guess

>>21958040
I keep seeing Gardner amazon ads on /lit/.

I want to look forward to reading a book again...

>>21965740
New

>>21965743
angry shitting bun