/lit/ - Literature

It's also gay

>>21958086
>tfw no Antinous bf
Give me ONE fucking reason not to kms RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

>>21958261
Because there are cute boys irl anon :)

>>21958286
How do I get one to kill me?

>>21958537
Stage a coup to restore the emperor

>>21958540
Good to see you again.
I still want to die
and have a qt twink bf

Why must my suffering have no end? ;_;

>>21958541
When did we speak before anon? I have a vague memory, but I cannot remember the context
How old are you, where do you live
Have you ever had crush on boy,..

>>21958545
You posted the exact pic that you (perhaps not you?) posted in a gay Mishima thread. Can't remember the context.

Early 20s, England
No ;_;

>>21958557
It was probably me I think I'm the only anon who has posted that pic before
Cute... when are you coming to Australia

>>21958579
That could actually happen; my father's an Aussie and wants me to come live with himkinda
City? BF status? Top/bottom?

>>21958591
PerthI have a bf so now I feel bad about leading you on, but it would be nice to have lit friends and we are not disinterested in fooling around with cute bois..Top, also I like more exotic pleasures.. bondage..

Apparently love can bloom in the most unexpected threads.

>>21958604
Nice.
Were you the one who was smaller and yet fucked his bf?

Hope you guys are happy together :) <3

>>21958617
do you mean smaller in terms of cock size or something? we're teh same height
thank you very much anon, although it has been a bit rocky lately

>>21958623
Being together is usually better than being alone! Don't lock yourself into an unhappy situation, but remember it isn't necessarily better outside of it!

It wasn't you but some anon on /k/. He was smaller and more psychologically submissive but still fucked his kinky bigger bf who loved to be tied up.

Favourite book? Gay book?

>>21958660
Favourite book? That's a tricky question anon. My favourite book with homoerotic themes is probably The Confusions of Young Törless, although that is not the primary reason why that book is so special to me, and it would be crass to call it a gay book. I do like Mishima a lot too.

How about you?

>>21958694
I like Demons. It's even (imo; though don't tell any Russnats) kinda homoerotic, if in more of a 'young man in awe of an older politically idealistic one' way.

I just recently read The Confusions. I thought it was neat, and the setting was really cute, though I felt it have the author grandstanding too much with his philosophical background and not enough explicit naughty stuff, though considering the wiggle room stuff like Death In Venice got I suppose it would've been censored. I think my favourite 'gay' (more paederastic, really) one is Sandel, an adorable story about a 19 year old falling in love with a boy.

Least homosexual /lit/ thread

>>21958086
I adore this book. It's one of my absolute favourites. I rarely have physical emotional reactions to literature, but Antinous' funeral elicited one.

>But I hesitated still about where to place the tomb. I recalled that in ordering rites of apotheosis everywhere, with funeral games, issues of coins, and statues in the public squares, I had made an exception for Rome, fearing to augment that animosity which more or less surrounds any foreign favorite. I told myself that I should not always be there to protect that sepulchre. The monument envisaged at the gates of Antinoopolis seemed too public also, and far from safe. I followed the priests' advice. On a mountainside in the Arabic range, some three leagues from the new city, they indicated to me one of those caverns formerly intended by Egypt's kings to serve as their funeral vaults. A team of oxen drew the sarcophagus up that grade; it was lowered with ropes to those subterranean corridors, and was then slid into position to lean against a wall of rock. The youth from Claudiopolis was descending into the tomb like a Pharaoh, or a Ptolemy. There we left him, alone. He was entering upon that endless tenure, without air, without light, without change of season, compared with which every life seems short; such was the stability to which he had attained, such perhaps was the peace. Centuries as yet unborn within the dark womb of time would pass by thousands over that tomb without restoring life to him, but likewise without adding to his death, and without changing the fact that he had been.

>all of his three novels are out of print in my language, but somehow managed to find Stoner and loved it
inb4 "hurr durr read them in English"
No.

I am certain you cannot get tradpublished for historical unless you sign on to promote the farce that our western progenitors were ass pounding fruity little faggots. The hero of the jews, David, was a bisexual promiscuous fagwad who took it up the ass and stirred his rod in shitholes. And we all know that, HELLO, WHO DO YOU THINK OWNS THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY?

I'm with the muslims on faggotry. All faggots should be defenestrated. Everyone promoting faggotry should be shot in the head and removed from this world. Committing faggotry destroys a man inside and out and permanently severs his connection to God. That's why hedonistic satan worshipping kikes love to push this myth of Hellenic/Roman faggotry so much.

>>21959194
>The word 'homosexual' is nowhere to be found in ancient writings
Sure. The relevant words are 'pederasty' (boy love), 'erastes' (lover), 'eromenos' (beloved), etc. Erastes is used for heterosexual lovers too.
>The ancient word the Greeks used for homosexuals is 'kinaidos'
Only passive homosexuals. In the entire Aristophanic corpus, no one is ever mocked for being attracted to males or fucking them, only for being fucked. Aristophanes himself defends pederasty in Plato's Symposium.
>Kata Timarchou
Aeschines is talking about men who prostitute themselves, not male love in general. He makes this clear:
>According to my definition, desire for those who are noble and decent is characteristic of the generous and discerning spirit, but debauchery based on hiring someone for money I consider characteristic of a wanton and uncultivated man. And to be loved without corruption I count as noble, to have been induced by money to prostitute oneself is shameful. (Against Timarchos 137)
Aeschines also says that he himself has had homosexual love affairs, says that Solon the lawgiver gave pederasty special status by permitting it to the free alone, and alleges that Homer intended Achilles and Patroclus to be read as erotic lovers.
>Plato's Laws
These aren't actual Greek laws. They are Plato's suggestions. Plato himself says in this text that outlawing homosexuality in the Greek peninsula will be quite a difficult endeavor, given its popularity. Plato also wanted to ban Homer, have children raised communally without knowing their father's identity, advocated equality of the sexes, etc. Not a Greek traditionalist.

>>21959194
>>21959557


The Sparta thing is true, although it ignores the fact that pederasty still existed (Plutarch, Cicero, Xenophon) just without anal copulation. Cicero says they "permit everything except the filthy act itself". Plutarch says it is shameful for a Spartan youth "to be without lovers". Xenophon says the laws in Sparta are unusual, and that "most of the cities do not censure men's desire for boys"

Regarding Alexander the Great, these are selective quotations
>King Alexander, too, was quite excessively keen on boys: according to Dicaearchus in On the Sacrifice at Troy, he was so taken with the eunuch Bagoas that under the eyes of the whole theater he bent over to give him a kiss, and when the audience shouted and applauded, he very willingly bent over and kissed him again. Charon of Chalcis—so says Carystius in Historical Notes--had a beautiful boy who was devoted to him. Alexander remarked on his beauty during a drinking bout hosted by Craterus. Charon told his boy to give Alexander a kiss. "No!" said the king. "That would pain you more than it would please me."
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 13.602
>When Alexander arrived at the palace of Gedrosia, he restored the army with a festival. It is said that he got drunk and watched choral competitions. His eromenos Bagoas won in the dancing and he traversed the theater in his costume and sat down beside him. Seeing this, the Macedonians applauded and shouted out, bidding Alexander kiss him, until he embraced him and kissed him deeply
Plutarch, Alexander 67.8
>Alexander laid a wreath on Achilles' tomb and Hephaestion on Patroclus', hinting that he was Alexander's eromenos, as Patroclus was of Achilles.
Aelian, Varia Historia 12.7
>Euxenippus was still very young and a favourite of Alexander's because he was in the prime of his youth, but though he rivaled Hephaestion in good looks he could not match him in charm, since he was rather effeminate.
Curtius, The History of Alexander 7.9.19

>>21958722
Wasn't aware of Sandel, thanks for the recommendation anon. Sounds like Henry James The Pupil

>>21959572
It's really cute. Their relationship is adorable. A good moment is when an Austrian exchange student Engrishes out the question "Do you have fire for me, sir?" (can we light the fire) to the teacher, Sandel's lover; to which he responds indignantly "X has 'fire' only for ME, sir!"

I wish I had a boy like that...

>>21958113
If you get a boner looking at Hadrian's face on the cover, then it's a you problem.

>>21958557
>England
==EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.==

>>21958086
Can we discuss the book itself and not homosexuality? What were your favourite parts? I have a copy of it but have yet to read it.

>>21960015
HOMOSEXUALS NEED VIOLENT PHYSICAL REMOVAL FROM THE MORTAL COIL

>>21960141
okay

>>21959072
Thanks for posting it, it served to brighten my day and got me interested in the book, my wife ordered it for me now.