/lit/ - Literature

>>21951842
Taras Bulba

>>21951842
Alexiad

>>21951842
The Holy Roman Empire?

>>21952012
Byzantine Empire

>>21952017

>>21952012
The who what?

>>21952017
The Roman Empire. The portion that did not fall to the Germanic people. Byzantium was a port town built over

>"Of that Byzantine empire, the universal verdict of history is that it constitutes, without a single exception, the most thoroughly base and despicable form that civilization has yet assumed. There has been no other enduring civilization so absolutely destitute of all forms and elements of greatness, and none to which the epithet "mean" may be so emphatically applied ... The history of the empire is a monotonous story of the intrigues of priests, eunuchs, and women, of poisonings, of conspiracies, of uniform ingratitude." —William Lecky
>"Its [Byzantium's] general aspect presents a disgusting picture of imbecility: wretched, nay, insane passions, stifles the growth of all that is noble in thoughts, deeds, and persons. Rebellion on the part of generals, depositions of the Emperors by means or through the intrigues of the courtiers, assassinations or poisoning of the Emperors by their own wives and sons, women surrendering themselves to lusts and abominations of all kinds." —Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
>"The history of the Greek Empire is nothing but a tissue of revolts, seditions, and perfidies." -- Montesquieu
>"There exists another history, more absurd than the history of Rome since the time of Tacitus: it is the history of Byzantium. This worthless collection contains nothing but declamations and miracles. It is a disgrace to the human mind." -- Voltaire
>“Let us not follow the example of the Byzantine Empire, which, being pressed from all sides by the barbarians, became the laughing-stock of posterity because it was preoccupied with petty quarrels while the battering-ram was breaking through the city gates" -- Napoleon

>>21952867
imagine being a revisionist over a meme empire that declined and fell within a few decades

> Holy
> Roman
> Empire

>>21952883
> William Lecky
> Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
> Montesquieu
> Voltaire
> Napoleon
Yeah, I trust these faggots to give a good take on the greatest Roman empire.

>>21952012
The Third Rome.

>>21953271
Christcuck cope and lies. Shameless.

>>21952883
>Its [Byzantium's] general aspect presents a disgusting picture of imbecility: wretched, nay, insane passions, stifles the growth of all that is noble in thoughts, deeds, and persons. Rebellion on the part of generals, depositions of the Emperors by means or through the intrigues of the courtiers, assassinations or poisoning of the Emperors by their own wives and sons, women surrendering themselves to lusts and abominations of all kinds.
How is that any different than Rome after the fall of Carthago? Byzantium is Rome and it shows.

>>21953278
Moscow is the third Rome.

>>21953271
Based and truthpilled. Westoids are filtered by Byzantium

I

That is no country for old men. The young
In one another's arms, birds in the trees,
—Those dying generations—at their song,
The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
Whatever is begotten, born, and dies.
Caught in that sensual music all neglect
Monuments of unageing intellect.


II

An aged man is but a paltry thing,
A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
For every tatter in its mortal dress,
Nor is there singing school but studying
Monuments of its own magnificence;
And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
To the holy city of Byzantium.


III

O sages standing in God's holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity.


IV

Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come.

>>21953315
Came here to post this. There is evidently some strange prejudice against the Eastern Roman Empire by these Western thinkers and I can't even understand why.

>>21953315
>How is that any different than Rome after the fall of Carthago?
It's politics. Western Euroep had to glorify Western Rome but attack Eastern Rome. That's why they changed its name too, Byzantines always called themselves the Roman Empire because that's what they were. The change of name came much later from Western Europe.

Learn Greek and Romanian and read their byzantology academic journals

Cloud Cuckoo Land by Doerr

>>21953612
I don’t like Yeats. He insists on himself.
He’s implicitly claiming himself a place above Virgil and Statius here, for example.

>>21954526
>He’s implicitly claiming himself a place above Virgil and Statius here, for example.
Based Yeets