/lit/ - Literature

>>21934263
What does picrel mean? I don't watch anime.

>>21934266
Evangelion movie

goga i love you so much

>>21934263
>atheists
>rely solely on faith
Your premise is false so I didn't read the rest, you should try again. This time with logic instead of emotional outbursts.

>lowercase pseud post
You will NEVER be a woman.

>>21934263
Materialism is the only rational option. The End.

>>21934292
>t. never had a complete thought in xer life

>>21934285
pray tell: whence does truth emanate in your positivist-empiricist fallacy? the atheist, as your post so painfully betrays, possesses so dull a discerning faculty that he cannot even cast his gaze upon that this question—the very beyond his understanding

>>21934285
Your comment is nothing but a meme of "I portrayed you as a sojack and myself as a gigachad," but only in verbal form, which is already an achievement for you. Next time actually try to elaborate or the rest of your replies will be considered as a fart into the styrofoam

>>21934296
Can you rewrite that in a legible manner? Your sentences seem to be just padding without substance. There's online dictionaries if you're having problems with English.

>>21934310
pray tell: whence does truth emanate in your positivist-empiricist fallacy? the atheist, as your post so painfully betrays, possesses so dull a discerning faculty that he cannot even cast his gaze upon that this question—the very diction beyond his understanding

>>21934310
pray tell: whence does truth emanate in your positivist-empiricist fallacy? the atheist, as your post so painfully betrays, possesses so dull a discerning faculty that he cannot even cast his gaze upon this question—the very diction beyond his understanding

>>21934308
You chose to imagine an entertaining picture instead of what I wrote, there's funny websites like 9gag if you want that sort of content.

>>21934318
I can't hold a dialogue with someone that refuses to participate in it. If you want to just spout non-sense, then you'll do so alone.

>>21934327
i genuinely do not know what is unintelligible. if you desire assistance in parsing quite literally two sentences please tell me what youre having trouble with. perhaps someone else can explain it to you

ah nvm you must be ESL

>>21934331
>i genuinely do not know what is unintelligible.
You could start in restating your question in plain English.
>whence does truth emanate in your positivist-empiricist fallacy?
The above quote is unintelligible, the latter part of the post is just padding without meaning.

>>21934333
what is/are the ordering principle(s) of your epistemological system (which is generally for atheists positivism or empiricism); i.e. does truth emanate from sense perception, is there truth in the object/form, etc....

>>21934337
>>21934337
>what is/are the ordering principle(s) of your epistemological system
For me, it's important to state that I can't speak for others.

I would call burden of proof an important principle. That is if there's a claim being made, whoever is making the claim needs to provide evidence for the truthfulness of said claim. There's of course linguistic axioms, such as meanings of words that are necessary for communication and don't warrant a proof- otherwise everything would devolve into meaningless semantics.

To put it succinctly, truth is proven.

>>21934354
>>21934337
The dumbest people on this board right now

>>21934354

>>21934358
>>21934362
>>>/trash/

>>21934266
It’s a reference to the John Lennon album mind games which feautures john walking toward the viewer in the foreground with yoko Onos face in the background. At the time he was split with yoko and he thought it was permanent. He describes the cover as stating that yoko was a giant mountain in his life that he had traversed and that significanxe Would stay with him for a long time.

I always presumed this was a reference but never saw the cartoon

>>21934354
What a retard

t.GPT

>>21934263
I think there is one group worse than atheists. Its the "atheist" simulation theorist. It's some how an atheist theology where we have a god (the thing that made the simulation) but that god is just a person or group of persons in their reality without a god (because if they had a god they would have programmed him into the simulation). Its such a weird ideology that somehow was the dominant one among my peers while in university.

>>21934263
You are not wrong that Theists and Atheists are two sides of the same coin.

However, you must remember there is always three sides to a story, especially in the courthouse. There is there are the narratives, and what lies beyond them.

Theists say we should worship God.

Atheists say we should worship science and materialism/paganism.

But they both make the mistake of looking outside of themselves, finding masters instead of mastering themselves.

The Truth lies in the Middle section of the coin
which is often ignored by it's two identical, yet opposing faces. There, you will find there is a God, and he is infinite as the expanding universe and energy which the atheists often speak of.

It is also true, that this entity we call God, is not only infinite, but also within each and every one of us through our imaginations.

We are God, just as God can be everything and Nothing, the beginning and the End. We are one with God, for that is what the Holy Spirit Represents. The endlessness of our imagination simultaneously is innately God in Us, and Connects us Directly to God, where we are infinite, even beyond death when our physical humanity is relinquished.

Jesus Represents the way which Imagination Connects to God, and God himself, is
imagination, and the Holy Spirit, is the God-In-Man, which we experience as Imagination.

>>21934853
its a rehash of the brain in a jar by boltzmann which is also a rehash of the daemon by descartes

atheists are addicted to their fantasy that they are good and somehow somebody is against them, because atheists took power by saying monarchies were oppressive and revoltuions must happen, so once the atheists killed all the king, the atheists had no longer any enemy and thus no reason to live anymore, no purpose in their lives.
Atheists' cope is to imagine somehow that democracy and their self are in perpetual danger of being exploited and the butt of the joke.

>>21935255
>Atheists' cope is to imagine somehow that democracy and their self are in perpetual danger of being exploited and the butt of the joke.
this hysteria and neuroticism is why jews and women thrive so easily in democracies.

>>21935160
Where was Jesus before written history? Do fish and insects go to heaven? Why does Jesus have only 4 limbs when there's centipedes and snails?

Don't bother answering the above, I'm just laughing at your limited intellect.
>Atheists say we should worship

>>21935358
I think you're confused. See, I'm not advocating for the bible being a historical document. Can't you see it is a folly to interpret the bible this way? The bible is meant to be allegorically translated, not historically/fundamentally.

We are God, that is the big message, we are the masters of our own destiny, realizing that we are Infinite Love is the Summit, for the greatest objective in life to love others and spread that love to everyone.

The Historical nonsense is a product of the Vatican and it's various predecessors and inspirations. It's a mire, meant to distract, omit, and obfuscate the real truth, which is God is within, not without and Above/Below. So your question of heaven and Hell dynamics, even as a means of a comedic prod, is also nullified.

Happiness and Love is in endless supply, present, here and now, to anyone whom desires to dwell in this state. That, and that which is the infinite before and after death, is God.

>>21935395
>We are God
Were we got when we didn't evolve into the contemporary human form? Were we God as bacteria in the primordial soup? At which point did we become God?

Feel free to pick a point from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

>>21935406
Whether you choose to believe we were monkeys, apes, or chimps in some scientific worldview, the truth is the point stays the same. We became finite, from being infinite. We chose our birth before it happened. We're consciousness in a human vessel, and perhaps we reincarnate and become chimp-like human beings from chimps, but we are what we choose to believe. We are pure consciousness at the end of the day, and that God, and is beyond scientific, materialist thinking which you spout with these links and strange, academic vocabulary.

It's supposed to be simple. We are God, experiencing a Human Life, perhaps reincarnating as other lifeforms, including monkeys and monkey-like beings. But we always return to the source. Just as water, whether turned into ice and sculptures, or mist/gas, water is water, flowing and forever.

>>21935430
why didn’t I choose a gf before I came into being? can you explain THAT?

>>21935430
Awfully bipedal centric, how convenient that we are bipedal. May I see how you've arrived at this conclusion?
>it came to me in a dream
>I read it in a book that someone else wrote, it came to him in a dream

>>21935480
>May I see how you've arrived at this conclusion?
crackpipe.jpg

>>21935448
Because that's not how it works. Part of becoming mortal, is you forget about being immortal, so you're basically starting a new save file in your game. The other part of infinite love, is discovering how to be conscious of that love throughout your life, and to expand it as much as you possibly can throughout the time that you are alive and breathing as a human being. The more conscious and aware you are of how infinite you really are, and how your wonderful imagination can provide for everything you've wanted(Jesus said, Ask and Ye Shall Receive), looking within to find the answers you seek, the more in tune you will be with your inner nature, and the easier it will be to effortlessly find the things you want in life, including that of finding a mate, and perhaps even having children with them. If you wish for it, and attune yourself within, you will push out what you imagine. You're infinite, and you can have what you want granted. The Key is to realize that doubt is the only devil, and the only person in the way of any of your own desires, is yourself. You must avoid vices and destructive desires which harm and can kill you physically. Love is found in harmony, healthiness, and quiet, (For it is also said in the bible, that the meek will inherit the earth, this is what this verse is referencing, even if the story is about something else entirely).

In short, it all comes from you, even if the material world and everything else seems to be the causes, but one must ask, what is everything made of?

The answer is Energy, or as I've already referenced it, as Infinite love. You can find this love within, for God, is the Source of this energy, which is infinite, and all accepting of everything that you are, because you are made of this love.

Becoming aware of the intensity, beauty, brightness, and conscious expansion of your understanding and comprehension of this unconditional bounding sound of Love(Also called The Dao, Nirvana, God, The Infinite, The Ever-Expanding Universe, pure energy, it has many names), this is the primary purpose of all people, a collective of individuals experiencing the same form of consciousness in the various immediate human forms it can take.

>>21934296
>atheism = positivist-empiricist
Surely you've actually read a book before

>>21934354
>truth is proven
Homo, that's a self-contradicting axiom. As an example, let me ask you to prove the fact that truth is proven.

>>21935480
I've read many books, attended many seminars, listened to may lectures, had many mentors and teachers, written many journals of my own experiences and accounts, I've lived and had experiences that certainly any of you are capable of doing on your own. We are all God, and that is something even a child could put together.

life is meant to be simple, yet has all the room for interesting complexities and ideas, for branching diverse outcomes and solutions.

But Paradise and contentment with the infinite, and the expansion of consciousness and imagination is and should be treasured above all.

>>21935503
>let me ask you to prove the fact that truth is proven.
Already predicted such derailing argument. >>21934354
>There's of course linguistic axioms, such as meanings of words that are necessary for communication and don't warrant a proof- otherwise everything would devolve into meaningless semantics.

>>21934263
didn't read past the first half sentence
Jesus Star Trek replicating fish is big stupider than the athiest position.

>>21935505
>We are all God
I fundamentally agree with you, that we're all one existence. I'm trying to point out that you're limiting your understanding by considering only humanlike creatures, or creatures for that matter. Inanimate matter is what all living things are made out of, what you see as consciousness is just a chemical process. There's well documented occurrences of split-brains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain

>The first test started with a board that had a horizontal row of lights. The subject was told to sit in front of the board and stare at a point in the middle of the lights, then the bulbs would flash across both the right and left visual fields. When the patients were asked to describe afterward what they saw, they said that only the lights on the right side of the board had lit up. Next, when Sperry and Gazzaniga flashed the lights on the right side of the board on the subjects left side of their visual field, they claimed not to have seen any lights at all. When the experimenters conducted the test again, they asked the subjects to point to the lights that lit up. Although subjects had only reported seeing the lights flash on the right, they actually pointed to all the lights in both visual fields. This showed that both brain hemispheres had seen the lights and were equally competent in visual perception. The subjects did not say they saw the lights when they flashed in the left visual field even though they did see them because the center for speech is located in the brain's left hemisphere. This test supports the idea that in order to say one has seen something, the region of the brain associated with speech must be able to communicate with areas of the brain that process the visual information.

>>21934263
Theists literally have two card these days, don't they?
Card A: God exists because flowers/babies/sunset/literally whatever else zacharin and other such cope-proofs
Card B: strawmanning everyone else while trying to sound profound

"Atheism" is a sect of American fundamentalist Christianity. History will remember this "movement" as the dumbest religion ever conceived.

>>21934266
>>21934824
Well, pic rel existed before the tranime and Jhon Lennon's album.

>>21934292
It has already been thoroughly refuted because NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And while the Bible and the Qu'ran convinces few people who do not already believe, the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife. So no matter how sure you are of your precious materialism, this argument will refute that certainty:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.
>b-b-but NDEs are dreams or hallucinations somehow!!!!!1!
Already explicitly refuted in the literature you likely have not read on NDEs.

>>21934292
In what way? It's only led us back to the same conclusions people already had made two thousand years ago. I.e. that the universes existence seemingly breaks casualty and we have no idea why we experience anything at all.

>>21936554
It's not fucking linguistic, you retard. It's literally the hallmark of your philosophy. You can't prove things based on nothing. There have to be things that are absolutely true and do not need to be proven, otherwise everything becomes incoherent. This is basic fucking philosophy, but I wouldn't expect a sophomore to know it, I suppose.