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Preferably on goodreads.com

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>>21889798
Replies to a 2 stars review of iliad by Homer

>> No.21890458

This thread is already worse than any blackpill I could possibly take

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>>21889798
No different in quality from virgin takes on books posted in /lit/

Also, sage.

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Muslim goodreads reviews are funny too

>> No.21890538

Any seeting female review of Harlan Ellison's books
>muh misogyny
>1/5
Get fucked dyke

>> No.21890600

>>21890469
show bobs plz

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>> No.21890631

>>21890458
>most people are dumb as bricks, women even more so???!!
>aaaaghhh i’m going insane help me niggerman

>> No.21890667

>>21889798

At least now we know where to meet girls that read.

>> No.21890709

As a part of my creative writing practice, I deliberately author incomprehensibly retarded product reviews. Seeing such mastery in this thread only reinforces that I have a long way to go. It's a little disheartening, desu.

>> No.21890759

>>21890631
Uses "white man" twice. Yet doesn't even mention privilege. Why are women like this?

>> No.21890765

grim thread

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>>21889798
>old english

>> No.21890783

>>21890626
this updike fella sounds based

>> No.21890835

>>21889798
To be fair, Dracula isn't a very good book.

>> No.21890838

>>21890759
they venerate outgroups while codifying their specific demographic, which is harmful to civilization in the long run

>> No.21891076

>>21890709
Great idea really

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>>21889798
>>21890458
>>21890538
My CHUDAR is going off like crazy. Line up against the wall chuddypies, it's buckbreaking time

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>>21891127
>Yes, he was a Victorian

>> No.21891368

>>21889801
>>21891127
If you agree with Nietzche, you should want an anti-Nietzche gf

>> No.21891370

>>21891127
Ella is at least honest

>> No.21891378

>>21891368
If you agree with Nietzsche, you should want someone who understands the deep profound friendship as seen with the Greeks.

Therefore you want a man, since women are incapable of anything similar.

>> No.21891381

>>21891193
Is this chatGPT?

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>>21891378
VGH...

>> No.21891389

>>21889801
Women cannot be autistic. Autistic people often lack empathy, therefore Nietzsche is only good for men with autism

>> No.21891396

>>21891387
Yes.

On a more serious note, I might have bad news for you if your first thought when you read, "deep profound friendship with a man" is your dick up some dude

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>>21891389
>He thinks women are capable of empathy, especially towards a man
ngmi

>> No.21891430

>>21891424
>a man would want to HELP
kek how did this nigga have so much insight into women at 22

>> No.21891455

>>21891430
That's a good question, are you disagreeing with what is said though?

>> No.21891478

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyVAU5iGe0k&list=PLE33BCD966FF96F23

>> No.21891488

>>21889798
My respect for women hangs from a thread made of spider silk

>> No.21891536

>>21889798
you can simply check the reviews of any classic on goodreads and their retarded reviews will be there waiting for you

>> No.21891556

>>21889801
Based NEETzsch

>> No.21891568

>>21890483
Don't muslims have sex with children?

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>> No.21891677

>>21891568
yes but female children mostly

>> No.21891689

>>21891424
>sex and character
ngmi, that book is pseud shit

>> No.21891713

>>21891127
Based Ella, i felt the same years ago with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. but now i tried again and i get it a lot more than before, i guess she just need to read more.

>> No.21891720

>>21891424
That’s not what I said. But I forget /lit/ doesn’t read

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>>21889803
marvel movies and their consequences

>> No.21891777

>>21891568
Saint Augustine writes in his Confessions that he was waiting for two years for his bride to reach marriageable age, that is, 12 years old.

>> No.21891786

>>21891614
>listened
I hate this shit so much. Lit classes in university are a joke these days because half of the dumb-shit students can't be bothered to even look at words on a page.

>> No.21891825

>>21890626
this is written by someone who thinks they are smarter than they actually are

>> No.21891830

i love women

>> No.21891852

>>21891777
Most of those so called "holy men" were degenerates and perverts.

>> No.21891855

>>21891830
ur gae

>> No.21891864

>>21891756
>1822 reviews
I have this bitch blocked, as well as dozens of other "professional reviewers", almost all of them - women.
Go to the Top Reviewers pages for US and UK, open their ugly profiles and block everyone you can (sadly, authors can't be blocked). That should get you started with about 80+ pieces of trash swept away. No more seeing their word vomit.

>> No.21891874

>>21891786
Don’t be dumb for the sake of some arbitrary hatred. Oral storytelling predates written, you know that. Listening to book is every bit the same as reading it, as long as it isn’t being relegated to background noise

>> No.21891875

>>21891864
Why would you even look for "reviews" there. I trust this board's taste more than any of those dumpsters, no joke.

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>>21891689
Women or got filtered

>> No.21891886

>>21890469
kek

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>>21891830
Gay.

Wanting to fuck women and seeing them as an amoral, sometimes pleasing aesthetic phenomenon that you want to stick your dick in = Straight

Developing romantic feelings for women, seeing them as human, as an equal, sharing your life, feelings and thoughts with them = gayer than fucking another dude in the ass

>> No.21891921

>>21891897
based and greekspilled

>> No.21891929

>>21891127
Refreshing honesty.

>> No.21891931

>>21891875
This board rarely gives reviews, only drops names instead. I'm simply trying to collect more information. I'd look at negative reviews to find proper criticism, or glance over some random opinions hoping in search of anything constructive. It doesn't help very often, but still useful sometimes.
Furthermore, I can compare books with the reviewer to see if he can be trusted. Women there clearly identify themselves - practically begging me to dismiss their opinions.

>> No.21891936

>>21889798
The top voted review for 2666

>> No.21891944

>>21891875
I look for reviews from men (usually a profile name and picture scan can eliminate 99% of woman accounts). Secondarily I scan the reviews on rare/controversial/chan related books and if I find a review that looks good I follow those accounts for more of their takes. That’s the best method, I’ve found some good recs from this.

>> No.21891953

>>21889798
god. I havent read Dracula because Im just not interested in vampire related stories, I think, but after reading these I got a little curious, and downloaded the pdf (in a Hungarian translation), now Im hooked. Its really well written and not boring at all, I am surprised. And I think Im gonna read it, so thanks retarded cunts

>> No.21891963

>>21891193
Nice projection

>> No.21891992

>>21891874
Assuming this isn't bait
>Listening to a book is every bit the same as reading it
Not true. Not to say it's a value judgement that one is superior to the other, but when you're engaged in study of a written medium you have to engage with words on a page. It's like studying film by only reading the scripts. I wouldn't be surprised if reading produces a different kind of memory from listening either. I've seen plenty of discussions go dead in the water simply because not enough people can accurately reference the written text or specific phrasing, they rely too much on oral memory from audiobooks.
>as long as it isn't being relegated to background noise
That's precisely the issue. Reading requires at least marginally more concentrated effort, it can't be passive in the same way listening can.

>> No.21892180

>>21891992
You call my post bait but you make a bunch of assumptions based on bias and false premise.
>I've seen discussions go dead
And what leads you to believe this a problem with the format of the medium and not the people discussing it? Reading can absolutely be done on auto-pilot, not sure why you think it can't. If you want to argue that it's easier to be passive when listening, sure I guess, but that was the purpose of adding my qualifier

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Unsure if it's a woman, I just absolutely hate this 'review'.

>> No.21892204

>>21892202
>review includes an entire autobiography
It's a woman.

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lol she gained 20 followers for this meme review

>> No.21892381

>>21892202
I hate women.

>> No.21892382

>>21891127
>Nietzche was just a smelly incel, ew
Gooble gobble one of us!

>> No.21892393

Reminder that the entire world is now administered by these creatures + diversity hire minorities

The level of civilizational collapse that is coming is going to be astonishing

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>>21892393
>The level of civilizational collapse that is coming is going to be astonishing
The only reason I keep deciding to not fucking end it all.

>> No.21892414

>>21892398
>>21892393
Technological society will prolong these unnatural horrors beyond what is comprehensible. That's the only reason I'm not an accelerationist. An imminent collapse is a hope that could only belong to the past.

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>>21892414
I've been thinking the same thing for the past few years, problem is, if I fully accept that notion, I'll have no other choice than to blow my brains out.
I prefer the comforting lie. The collapse WILL come!

>> No.21892435

>>21892414
Have hope! All the people running the technology are retarded women who cry openly at work when someone doubts their competence

>> No.21892442

>>21889800
>Traci
>After all when I reread Call of the...
What is it? Wild? Crocodile?

>> No.21892445

>>21892435
>All the people running the technology are retarded women
Oh dear, sweet anon...
The people creating AI are most certainly not poos and women.
Fear the AI.

>> No.21892656

>>21891885
that guy is a schizo

>> No.21892986

>>21891381
>write a seething /lit/ post

>> No.21893006

>>21890783
He buckbroke Butters.

>> No.21893011

>>21890835
Say of it what you will, it is the seminal work upon which most other vampire narratives derive.

>> No.21893022

>>21891370
She knowingly critiqued his work as being poor due to her own incompetence. Whatever you call that, it outweighs her honesty.

>> No.21893032

>>21893011
Pamela was the first English novel, influential beyond measure, and it's also a huge steaming pile.

>> No.21893051

>>21889798
Their loss. Dracula has its creepy moments and the atmosphere all throughout and characters are very good. Why would they ever think it would be like Twilight?

>> No.21893061

>>21891852
>being holy means marrying barren roasties

>> No.21893074

>>21891825
She will never have to face that reality either

>> No.21893086

>>21891874
Pseud take. The novel is not even three centuries old; it was invented to be read, not listened to.

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>>21891193
>“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

>> No.21893121

>>21893108
holy gemmy

>> No.21893143

>>21892202
>review is just her babbling about her own mundane life

absolutely a woman

>> No.21893422

>>21893061
Nah, they took on celibacy and started diddling choir boys instead.

>> No.21893454

>>21890626
>get btfo
>can only save face by making concessions
>pretend to make them and forget were btfo of what you still think afterwards
>woukd still get btfo bybthe exact same argument
>too stupid to realise this

>> No.21893597

>>21892431
My cope is Christianity. The world was already doomed and everything will stop at it's worst at which point the revelation (english for apocalypse) starts. Those that endured are eternally rewarded, the rest are sent to hell (likely being left in the hell they created first)

>> No.21893627

>>21892442
Cthulhu

>> No.21893637

>>21891885
That guy is based

>> No.21893658

>>21891478
She seems pretty retarded, but not watching all that.

>> No.21894192

>>21891076
Thanks. It's a lot of fun when I'm in a rut and the cobwebs need clearing.

>> No.21894353

>>21891389
No woman truly has empathy you adorable bastard. Women are the most self centered creatures to ever exist.

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>>21893422

>> No.21894647

>>21890783
What's up dyke?

>> No.21894653

>>21890835
partially saved only by Van Helsing's autism

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>80% of review is thinly veiled blogposting
many such cases

>> No.21895142

>>21890777
Mutts actually think early modern English like Shakespeare and shit is old English lmao

>> No.21895145

>>21889801
There are concepts women are just biologically incapable of ever understanding

>> No.21895168

>>21891786
I think most people are incapable of reading comprehension.

>> No.21895177

>>21891568
Fucking little boys and trannies is a widespread activity in the Middle East because it’s the only way to have sex outside marriage

>> No.21895202

>>21889801
How much mental gymnastics do you need to find antisemitism in nietzshe?

>> No.21895207

>>21894660
Why do women include unnecessary cope in their reviews?

>> No.21895208

>>21895202
Are you questioning the Jew's ability to identify oppression within all things under the Sun?

>> No.21895217

>>21895207
Because they have an inherent need for their coping and seething to be validated. It is a good lesson for us as well - to ensure that we do not fall into that same trap.

>> No.21895228

>>21891713
Thus Spoke Zarathustra was the first book in a long time that actually bored me to the point of putting it down. I understand what the guy is saying, but I find it neither novel nor profound. Maybe if I grew up religious or something, it would stick more with me, but the whole thing just reads like some fartsniffer creating Zoroastrian fanfiction.

>> No.21895229

>>21895202
>he thinks women bother to apply any sort of mental gymnastics at all
>implying they don’t just babble about themselves and things they don’t like (or like if it’s tiktok approved) regardless of context
>blaming them for such shameless stupidity when the whole western society is now arranged around their queefy whims
just stop interacting with women altogether (denying attention is the only weapon you have against them) and use your energy to fight the simps instead

>> No.21895383

>>21893011
Dracula came out near the end of the Gothic and vampire literature period. It also copies a lot of the tropes and characteristics of previous vampire works of the period. It's only important due to the play and movie adaptations that came out in the early 20th century, which restarted the popularity of the horror genre, but they deviated heavily from the original novel (if I remember correctly, the play version was just a "whodunit" closed room mystery). Faithful adaptations of the novel came out later in the century, but the vampire/horror genre had moved away from Dracula by that point, so the novel itself was never important or seminal for vampire narratives.

>> No.21895392

>>21890626
should I read the centaur now bros?

>> No.21895396

>>21895383
Also, the play and movie adaptations didn't come out due to the merit of the novel, but because Stoker's wife wanted to make money off of her deceased husband's writings. So, instead of some playwright reading the novel and thinking it would be great for adaptation, Stoker's wife had to work hard to get someone to adapt it.

>> No.21895438

>>21891885
After a few months of dealing with a woman complaining about shit all the time, it really starting to wear me down mentally to try and listen. I ended up finding whatever pill this guy took on my own.
I recognized that it was never going to stop, and attempts I made to try and suggest fixes to problems/solutions to the situations causing the complaints wouldn't be seriously considered, so why should I put in effort to give them?
A gentle expression, "Hmm... sorry to hear it," and a pat on the back or hug is all I offer nowadays, and I don't think much beyond it otherwise except for rare occasions. It's seriously improved my mindset. Women love to talk AT, rather than talk WITH; my prior misunderstanding of how they functioned had caused much wasted effort on my part.

>> No.21895444

>>21895202
It's not gymnastics, just the result of skimming and seeing him say things that at first glance without understanding context, can and are often misinterpreted by lesser men as well as being antisemitic.

>> No.21895453

>>21891885
>>21895438
least based lit anons sir

>> No.21895460

>>21891786
These people have no internal monologue, they can't form images in their head about what they're reading, they have to listen to spoken word because it's the only way they can comprehend. Colleges used to weed out these people, but not any longer.

>> No.21895462

>>21895444
Just skimming his fucking wiki is enough to know that he jeopardized his career and broken ties because he hated antisemitism so much. Women are malicious retards and get away with it nonstop.

>> No.21895468

>>21895460
>These people have no internal monologue
If they discover that you have an internal monologue then they will brand you as a schizo.

>> No.21895518

>>21895453
How many times have you tried to help a woman with something she complains about?
How many times has she actually taken your advice seriously or even just sought to fix the problem she's talking about on her own?
I find it few and far between that either occasion actually happens. More often she simply wishes to dump negative feelings onto someone else and then resume her suffering without action to improve her situation.

>> No.21895526

>>21891874
>as long as it isn’t being relegated to background noise
Why do you think audiobooks are so popular now?

>> No.21895528

>>21893086
it's over 400 years old
I don't disagree but just keep your dates straight, it came out in 1605 (and part II in 1615

>> No.21895534

>>21895462
>Just skimming his fucking wiki is enough to know that he jeopardized his career and broken ties because he hated antisemitism so much.
Unfortunately, many are too lazy to do as much when assigned a text for a college course (which I assume the reviewers encountered it in, doubtful they would seek it on their own). The reactionary impulse to certain words or phrases is stronger than the desire for knowledge or dialogue, and so they leave such reviews and don't seek to read it having designated it as something oppositional to what they are allowed to think.
>Women are malicious retards and get away with it nonstop.
I suppose, if ignorance is to be considered malicious. Though, when the ignorance remains so thorough even with others attempting to refute, it comes down to a matter of prideful stubbornness rather than outwards ill-intent.

>> No.21895553

>>21895202
There's plenty of surface level antisemitism in that book, but it's kind of like saying Macbeth was Shakespeare arguing that Ghosts are real.

>> No.21895563

>>21895534
Spreading completely unfounded slander is malicious, especially when the accusation is antisemitism. Then again, it’s entirely possible that the retarded woman doesn’t even consider consequences and thinks saying “antisemitic” will earn her internet points, like a parrot babbling for treats.

>> No.21895580

>>21895563
>Then again, it’s entirely possible that the retarded woman doesn’t even consider consequences and thinks saying “antisemitic” will earn her internet points, like a parrot babbling for treats.
It is, and any of the lesser men that do the same are also doing it for that reason: societal approval. Seeking to be as submissive to social standards as possible is the standard for the ignorant and unadventurous. These plebs believe they can solidify their place in the good graces of other more powerful plebs or of their onlooking masters by putting on a good show of obedience to the norm.

>> No.21895592

>>21894660
Buddy try asking a woman for her opinion on a book or movie and you get a daily diary entry about the people she was with and their relationship drama and how that one bitch made her so mad but then her boyfriend has a small penis so really she’s laughing at how unfortunate she is and what was the question again?

>> No.21895607

>>21895592
Very accurate.
Source: 3 exes
Never again.

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I used to confront the few /lit/ GFs I had with pic related when I was younger. We would discuss interesting lit topics and I always tried (in a Nietzschean sense) to confront them with things they would never agree with at face value. The result was always that they stopped being my GF really fast, and got utterly mad insulting good old Neetzsch as a virgin. I thought that confrontations like that build intellectual character and expand our views, I also thought it might be useful to debate things we don't agree with in a purely rhetorical sense.

This even happened with women that didn't resort to such tactics usually. They never allowed themselves to zoom out and look at the broader question. I remember one that was working at an Uni as a history teacher, denying the historicity of "the Greeks got stricter towards women", basically laughing at Neetzsch claiming he made stuff up. A few months later I found the same statement in Paideia by Jaeger and told her about it, as it was interesting to me. I remember her literally belittling me about in the sense of why I keep bringing these things up. Younger me was used to talk about interesting topics that do not concur to the mainstream with Friends, and by extension people we spend a lot of time with and respect. I basically approached her like another man that would be interested in the topic.

It took me time to realize that she was getting mad because I was disrespecting her "authority" as a university professor by being able to find contradictory statements to what she teaches.

I've changed my outlook on things, I'm a published author in my country (not a really popular one but still). When women come at place I let them take pictures in front of my bookshelf to post on social media, I've seen quite a few do that but not one ask to borrow a book or something. When they pretend interest, a usually tell them in a joking way, "oh come on, don't pretend that really interests you", and cut of the conversation. I never talk books or art with women, if I can I claim the books aren't mine and I'm just keeping them there, they are from my dad or something.

I had several girls that I dated for months without them even knowing I wrote a book. Sometimes they find a copy in my flat and they're dumbfounded, in the sense that I didn't tell them, but I feel it really lowers their attraction.

I banged a few arthoes by being a published author though, I did realize that the fact does nothing to promote my success with them, its just the fact they can tell their arthoe friends that they are dating an "author".

It hurts my soul to think I'll never find anybody I'm intimate with that I can really share this interest with openly, but I really feel that women suspect something inherently anti-masculine in all intellectuality and they start losing respect for you.

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>>21895684
Women physically cannot think without a man guiding them. Otherwise, they just have what Weininger calls 'henids' which they vomit out like cats do furballs. I'm convinced that female emancipation hurts women more than it does men. For men, it's just the disappointment of not having a good partner, but for women, it's a reversion to more primitive chimp modes of being where individual consciousness is sublated to the mob.

>> No.21895761

>>21895721
This is retarded... she is obviously asking "according to who?" Rhetorically, she's pointing out this guy is stating an opinion like a fact (like men often do) and no one normal would agree with this but the dude is too retarded to pick up on it and instead just assume she's the dumb one and condescends her over it (as men often do). I also don't know what this guy is saying "women don't exist when alone" where's he even pulling this statement? What do you think happens, my personality dissapears? Of course not I feel fucking stifled when people are around because I am a private person but men literally can't view women as people like them so they project and assume women just turn into robots when we're alone. I once spent a month alone in my apartment to commune with God (summer between classes, I had a lot of freetime) and I came out realizing the ego is an illusion that blinds us to other people. I realized other people are almost invisible behind projection, assumptions, and past experience. And I see other people do this (men most often) because they are unhappy with themselves and have to view others as shitty so they feel less shitty about themselves (as men often do)
Do not bother responding, you are blinded by your own ego and insecurity, all opinions will be discarded. I am praying for your enlightenment and I hope you kill your ego and become a true observer, but if you are past 25 it's probably too late and if that's the case I hope women are staying the fuck away from you

>> No.21895805

>>21895761
hysterics: the post

>> No.21895841

>>21895761
>I once spent a month alone in my apartment to commune with Go
AHHAHAHA. Post your tits next time when you think about posting (if you're under 30, if you're older don't bother posting at all)

Also >>21891424

>> No.21895845

>>21895805
Cope moid you will never experience true mental freedom from your earthly shell. Enjoy raging in testerics and throwing the controller at the wall cause you fucking died in league, I will be laughing at you from a true observers perspective.

>> No.21895849 [DELETED] 

>>21895841
A month alone without contact, no electronics, I bet you can't go three days without porn. Yet "women can't exist alone"

>> No.21895875

>>21895761
>she's pointing out this guy is stating an opinion like a fact
Yes, and the implicit meaning of her statement is that unless a statement is acceptable to or verified by someone authoritative (socially acceptable), it is a non-statement, thus proving the guy right: women can't conceive of an I-Thou relationship to Truth Itself. Women hear "If you keep smoking cigarettes, you may get cancer" and their mind goes
>Cancer? I don't want cancer
>That makes me feel sad
>That makes me feel bad
>That makes me feel mad
>Who made me feel sad bad mad?
>OH YEAH, IT WAS THIS GUY!
>{{{{GUY TARGETED}}}}
>HEY GUY, FUCK YOU
>WHY SAY THAT?
>WHY ARE YOU TO SAY THAT?
>LMAOOOO I'M DYIN RN U ACTUALLY SAID THAT SMDH LOLLLLLL
>{{{{INITIATE CRYING}}}} omfg ;_; you really... i cant believe you said that? like wtf??? can we get this guy banned/burned/shamed into silence??? ;_; i'm crying
>UH LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW ME? YOU DON'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT ME? WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS?
etc. until the problem goes away. Meanwhile she gets cancer

>> No.21895881

>>21895761
>>21895845
>I identify myself with a religion I don't understand, and use it to make myself feel superior to others

>> No.21895921

>>21895875
If anything irl I've noticed the opposite, men tend to blame the world if no one wants to sleep with them or no one likes them, women tend to blame themselves. Men have this externalizing view where they can't self-reflect properly so the project their faults onto others and hate them for it, rather than fixing themselves. Like how men accuse women of riding the cock carousel, meanwhile I've noticed men tend to casually date more and then get try to get settled/marry more in their 30s, while women tend to try and settle with their highschool sweetheart or date with the intention of marriage. Men also accuse women of liking bad guys and hating nice guys, yet men hate pick-me's and love women who are bossier and independent.
This is also why you have more women being insecure, if no one likes her she'll assume she's ugly or that her personality is bad, and try to figure out the problem. Men just say "women don't like me because they're all stuck up and picky" and so you have these men who will never groom themselves or fix their personality and end up perpetually making themselves more alone because they can't look in the mirror.
This is what I've noticed from IRL interaction, my brother in law is the 4chan type and he still lives with his parents at 34... called me a gold digger despite earning more than my husband. These people are sad

>> No.21896036

>>21895921
you talk about men lacking the ability for self-reflection and yet you want us to believe that your brother in law just randomly called his brother's wife a gold digger? Without any reason? You never did anything at all to warrant such animosity from him? He's just an inherently evil "4chan type" who has the audacity to live with his parents at age 34?
Let me tell you one characteristic of the "4chan type". Despite how they act online, most are quite averse to conflict in real life, especially with their immediate family.

>> No.21896081

>>21893597
Religion isn’t a cope, Fisherbrain. It’s existence itself.

>>21894353
I actually think it’s better not to have empathy in all honesty. If a woman can’t go 30 seconds without being disloyal, I have every right to treat her like shit in return, jail time be damned. Domestic violence has to come back in full force. And the reason I said that is because legally I have autism, and not having empathy is intrinsically part of our being. Two can play this game.

>> No.21896111

>>21895684

I'm the same. You either put up with dumb bitches who believe everything you say, or less dumb bitches that think they know all the right answers but can't actually hold a conversation about it without taking it personally and having nothing to support their argument. I've dated some very intelligent women, in terms of credentials, but I've had more intellectual stimulation from unemployed nerds I've met at Warhammer World. It's astounding.

>> No.21896133

>>21895849
Holy midwit.
>>21895845
Testosterone has a calming effect, men who rage are feminine and more likely to have low test.
>>21895921
>Men just say "women don't like me because they're all stuck up and picky"
And what? Personally, I have no trouble with women, but even in your reasoning there's the inherent presupposition that the masses can never be wrong, which was the point of my post in the first place: women can either get their reality from a father figure or in the absence of one revert to mob consciousness. I'm only clarifying this for you so people reading can better understand what I'm talking about, (you can't even perceive it, it's akin to describing colour to the blind.)

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>>21895849
meant to reply to >>21895761 instead of >>21895849

>> No.21896139

>>21896133
Proof? Nothing scientific please

>> No.21896145

>>21895921
>yet men hate pick-me's and love women who are bossier and independent
The absolute state of romance writers.

>> No.21896180

>>21895921
You're right that men tend to blame external factors more while women tend to be more self-obsessed (thus blaming themselves more). Women are highly insecure and because they are incapable of reason, their self-loathing can leak out to inexplicable hatred for things around them. The modern world encourages that type of hatred as well by encouraging women to blindly "accept" themselves and think higher of themselves. Simping culture and dating apps have helped facilitate that as well. Modern women have become insane messes due to their insecurities conflicting with their false vanities.

>> No.21896216

>>21896036
I hadn't even met him yet when he said this, I think the only reason he said it is because I'm am younger than my husband. I think there was some frustration on his part involved too, I don't think he's had girlfriends. I don't care if someone has to live at home at 34, some people have had luck, but in case I don't think that's so.

>>21896133
>Low t made them do it
so? Your point? It's still men commiting 97% of violent crimes. Men throw absolutely testarical episodes and then act like their toddler tantrums are logical.
>Men just say "women don't like me because they're all stuck up and picky"
They do act like this, have you been on this website?
>I have no trouble with women
I wasn't refering to you, but once again you have to assume every sentence revolves around your ego. You are too retarded to actually dissect anything, just deflect by posting some anime meme. Literal retard.

>> No.21896217

I think women are npcs who are not real.
I don't think they have agency. I don't think they have their own opinions. They're like those mobs and npcs in video games. Men are the main characters of the world. We have a story that we're the heroes of. Women don't. They have nothing, they're blank.

I can't believe this, but I have a wife and she's always craving attention for some reason. Men can function alone, women can't.

>> No.21896242

>>21895438
femanon here, what youre doing is better for the woman as well. or at least thats what the author said in Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars: if a girl is upset she just needs you to listen and emphatize. If you are giving her advice she will be frustrated because that is not what she wanted. I find this true. That doesnt mean that women do not want to talk WITH you ever, just not about their problems. We dont want a brainstorm, we need to vent. (Although if someones only way of communicating with you is complaining, its a cunt.)

>> No.21896250

>>21896216
Men are the "doers" so of course they commit more crimes. They also invent everything and are the only ones who do anything worthwhile. Women are perpetual children and weaklings who huddle around the mean of the bell curve in all measurable biological differences so naturally they will commit less crime. If women and men were to switch bodies for a day violent crime would skyrocket. People don't notice when women "act like toddlers" because that's what's expected of them by default. The rest of your post is hysterics. Anyway, post tits or go back.

>> No.21896255

>>21896217
Women are hardwired for breeding and maintaining social hierarchy (gossip, playing with babies, nagging betas, cheating with alphas). That’s all there is to it, a century of “education”, if you’re willing to call contemporary unis as such, and a decade of whoring apps make no difference. It’s sad that most young men have to learn this by getting burnt in real life instead of being mentored by their fathers.

>> No.21896280

>>21895518
yeah no you're exactly right, least x y is memespeak to say that y is very x

>> No.21896288

>>21896255
Men should not have social hierarchies to begin with, women’s sole purpose is to make sure our species doesn’t die, nothing more, nothing less

>> No.21896314

>>21893597
Well the golden age of humanity is definitely long over. Be happy it happened.

>> No.21896319

>>21896255
It really is amazing how they had 150 years of feminism = "Give us voting and equal opportunity and we'll show you we're exactly like you, there are no innate differences between men and women and all the existing differences are due to socialization" and within a generation of feminism being implemented they were all massive fucking whores and nothing else

Imagine showing Mary Wollstonecraft a modern whore college whore whoring around with no clothes on, imagine explaining Onlyfans to her. If I were convinced there is even one woman on earth with enough of a soul to understand how bad this is, I would feel really bad for that one woman, because she's surrounded by 3.5 billion whore retard disgraziate.

>> No.21896394

>>21896242
>That doesnt mean that women do not want to talk WITH you ever, just not about their problems. We dont want a brainstorm, we need to vent.
The thing is, most guys (or at least just me and some other men I know) don't often just vent to vent.
Usually when we discuss something that's troubling us, it's only if it has become so troubling that we seek advice/support with it. And for many (or maybe just me), we hesitate to seek support/express our troubles at all unless absolutely necessary to avoid unnecessarily burdening others AND to keep up a strong appearance.
This mode of behavior is then compounded with the gut instinct of most men wanting to ensure their partners' happiness leading to the knee-jerk reaction of trying to problem solve, which then can leave a man frustrated/confused if she is only seeking to vent and not looking to get any input from him. It would start to feel like, "If you don't want my input, why tell me about it?", since I myself will really only open up to others in that way if I'm seeking comment from them.
All that said, I mostly meant the WITH/AT distinction in the specific case of complaints/problems, but there certainly have been times where I encountered a few women that could not handle discussion on the level of equals and needed to alter the power dynamic by invoking the "you don't/can't/couldn't understand" phrase which in some environments said by some parties can magically absolve any need to explain oneself or one's position. Still, that's not restricted to women, as I've met men who try to make use of that as well.
In the end, I think more transparent communication of intents is the key to avoiding misunderstandings.
>>21896280
Ah, gotcha. I guess my reading of the sentence was jumbled up by the "sir" at the end, leaving me confused on if it was ironic or not.

>> No.21896458

>>21896394
A man like me wouldn’t care to understand in the first place as empathy doesn’t come naturally to someone like myself. I’d just tell the bitch to get over herself.

>>21896319
I don’t think those women exist anymore they all have the coombrain virus.

>> No.21896462

>>21894612
>jew yerk
Who woulda thunk?

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This is what I picture as the woman equivalent of a /pol/-/r9k/ anon.

>> No.21896529

>>21891885
I feel the same way.

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>>21896503
haha lol look at her crazy pfp! i love her

>> No.21896682

>>21891127
It never ceases to amaze me how women can't grasp that being a misogynist will genuinely get you better results with women than actually treating them politely. I guess it would short-fuse their brain but it's always funny to me

>> No.21896687

>>21896458
>those women
What women? Mary Wollstonecraft? She was a whore.

>> No.21896694

>>21892393
unironically this. Men will still get blamed for this collapse but holy shit, the cockstorm we're about to get is gonna be hilarious

>> No.21896700

>>21896503
The robots are way more edgy and less apologetic.

>> No.21896705

>>21896682
>women can't grasp that being a misogynist will genuinely get you better results
Prove that it is not a shit test.

>> No.21896720

>>21896705
Do simps get any pussy?
No.
It doesn't take that much to figure it out

>> No.21896728

>>21896682
It's more like a man's opinion on women has zero influence in either a positive or negative direction when it comes to success with women. If a woman found you attractive and wanted to fuck you there's very little that you could say that could change her mind about wanting to fuck you, and if she didn't find you attractive to begin with you could worship the ground women walk on and you will still not become an attractive partner in her eyes. That is besides the fact that there's a horseshoe effect going on with men's opinions on women, where men who either have a lot of success or no success at all will be the men with the most negative opinions about women (probably because they are the ones seeing them at their most hateful and the most desperate?) and the normies who are somewhere inbetween the two ends of the spectrum are the ones with the highest opinion about women (because they are too attractive to see what women act like when they think a man is subhuman but aren't hot enough to see how pathetic women are when they are desperate for a man's attention).

>> No.21896757

>>21896728
On another note, I do wonder if this is also true for women. Are women who are moderately attractive the women with the least negative opinions about men because they are too hot to know what men act like with a woman that they don't want to have sex with, but aren't hot enough to know how crazy men can be when they are obsessed with a woman?

>> No.21896758

>>21896720
Do you understand what a shit test is? It would achieve the same result. You cannot distinguish the difference by result alone.

>> No.21896779

>>21896757
>Are women who are moderately attractive the women with the least negative opinions about men because they are too hot to know what men act like with a woman that they don't want to have sex with, but aren't hot enough to know how crazy men can be when they are obsessed with a woman?
Statistics say otherwise
the 90% of women want and think they deserve top 10% of men

>> No.21896802

>>21896757
Outliers, maybe. I don't find most women able to interact with men on that level unless someone in the equation is gay or really close to it.

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https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7324650-anhel-s-nchez

>> No.21896857

>>21895228
interested if you could expand on your opinion of Neetchee and why you feel that way

>> No.21897189

>>21896857
I don't dislike Nietzsche and expected that I'd enjoy the book. I just felt a lot of it was preaching the the choir, but in a way that I found tedious and lacking in novelty. I'll likely pick it up again eventually, but it didn't vibe with me the first time around.
I do find Nietzsche's "God is Dead" speech to be rather profound, essentially laying out the consequences of humanity moving towards independence from God.

>> No.21897198

>>21896779
So? You can't control what people desire. What is the issue

>> No.21897259

>>21896757
I was unattractive in highschool and attractive in college. I have maybe the worst opinion of men, but also this phenomenon isn't just with them, it's everyone. I was kind of dumpy in highschool and I got treated like shit and made fun of. I thought it was just me, but it wasn't until college where I started dressing better and learned to do my hair and make-up that everyone started being nice to me, it wasn't just men but women wanted to be friends with me too and all my weird awkward behavior was now cute too. People will also walk up to you more in the street and try to start conversations, and even store attendants will be nicer and more helpful. It's actually fucking disheartening how the way everyone treats you comes down to your looks, and I think the emphasis on looks = worth is a lot higher in women. This effect is tripled with men, I have seen men go from being nice to being downright hostile to a woman they're not interested in, its terrible. I dress mostly in baggy clothes now and don't wear make up so I'm more invisible now, which I prefer, but for a while I was very bitter about it. You can get away with being ugly if you're very funny, confident, and charismatic but if you're normal or awkward it's actually fucking over.

>> No.21897519

>>21896319
>tfw came home from the shops the other day and every zoomer girl was either wearing yoga pants or bike shorts
Just let them vote bro

>> No.21897525

>>21897259
>You can get away with being ugly if you're very funny, confident, and charismatic but if you're normal or awkward it's actually fucking over.
Only if you're a man. If you're a woman being at least passably attractive is a requirement for any positive social interaction.

>> No.21897698

>>21897259
Hello beutiful i hold your breast so you donot need bra?

>> No.21898097

>>21889798
ITT regards who think they're smarter than other people making fun of retards who believe they are smarter than other people.
Inb4
>but you're in this thre-
Yeah.

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>>21891396
>"deep profound friendship with a man"
if you think that isn't historian cope when confronted with a gay guy, I have bad news for you.

>> No.21898149

>>21892202
terrible as a review, but I did enjoy reading it

>> No.21898151

All women, by natural rule, are retards.

>> No.21898166

>>21895438
women love to complain and cry to get men to fix their daily problems

>> No.21898174

>>21896394
I agree with your conclusion, but it is very hard to accomplish, because as you just stated, men assume that women need advice when complaining because men think like men. When women hear a man complaining, they also think like women and assume that man just needs a shoulder to cry on, meanwhile they are possibly looking for answers and real help. We are just different and if we could keep this in mind, lots of relationships would work better and lots of arguments could be avoided.
And what you said implies that men complain less and they only do so when things are real serious and they already thought them through. I respect that and love that about you but I will never do that because if I cant let my feelings out from time to time I will explode lel.
Thank you for being so reasonable anon. Have a great day.

>> No.21898223

>>21891885
I must say I share this man's epistemological inclinations

>> No.21898248

>>21895684
>It hurts my soul to think I'll never find anybody I'm intimate with that I can really share this interest with openly, but I really feel that women suspect something inherently anti-masculine in all intellectuality and they start losing respect for you.

The whole and sole perk of being a male is that nobody will care about you. Whereas the sole perk of being a vagina is that all the men will talk to you spontaneously.
To be happy you must live in agreement with your nature.
The male nature is to be forever alone. On the female side, it is not all rosy, women hate to have a flock of ugly orbiters, and they hate it even more when there is physical contact with those. In other words women hate that too much men care about them. So everybody is unhappy, especially the men. Thanks to a twist, women are actually happy because, doing it for free, the chad orbiters will beat up the ugly orbiters for the sake of the women.

So to be happy as a male you must rejoyce in being a loser. This is the only truth in the universe.

>> No.21898250

>>21895921
>women tend to blame themselves
Women have this luxury because they have tons of orbiters desperate to give them sex free of charge.

>> No.21898378

>>21897198
oh yeah?
Well yes I think people are retarded.

>> No.21898410

>>21897198
Yeah you can. Through force of law.

>> No.21898424

>>21896728
>If a woman found you attractive and wanted to fuck you there's very little that you could say that could change her mind about wanting to fuck you

Holy cope. Touch grass.

>> No.21898448

if you want to see a woman go full retard talk to her about great gatsby or catched in the rye
there's something about these 2 books that makes even the smartest women say the dumbest shit you've ever heard, it's bizarre how strongly these 2 books lower the IQ of women and the longer they talk the dumber they sound
if you were to tell a girl to talk about them for 2 hours, I'm sure they would eventually turn into an algae

>> No.21898514

> thread turned into incel census
Not surprising I guess.

>> No.21898521

>>21896111
The girl with 8 master's degrees is the most difficult one to discuss anything with. Any challenge isn't viewed as a fun mental game like it is between intelligent men. They view it as a personal attack and just get upset that you don't agree with them. I have met girls who think outside the box and actually read things to obtain new ideas, but they were all institutional level crazy. It sucks it took me so long to figure out. I used to date highly educated women thinking it would be great to have someone to talk about things in a creative way. Too bad it looks great on paper and in reality is just them repeating their college education.

>> No.21898529

>>21896319
>how they had 150 years of feminism = "Give us voting and equal opportunity and we'll show you we're exactly like you, there are no innate differences between men and women and all the existing differences are due to socialization"
They did, but also socialization differences and prejudice still exist to this day, my retard.

>> No.21898533

>>21898529
Leftist really love pathologising everything don't they

>> No.21898570

>>21898514
ok simp

>> No.21898590

>>21898529
If you're so fucking weak and pathetic that over a century of legal equality, and endless encouragement and sympathy from your supposed oppressors, isn't enough opportunity for you to overcome whatever mild adversity you experience, then the misogynists are right that women are essentially weak and pathetic and the oppression was a result and not a cause.

Black slave men created more within a generation of liberation than women can create in centuries of sympathy with the entire culture clapping every time they achieve even mediocrity, and here you are still fucking WHINING. Try one year without whining, complaining, crying, or making excuses and see what happens, if your walnut brain can even conceptualize that.

>> No.21898601

>>21898151
Wish we could end this boring discussion at that. Simps are such npcs.

>> No.21898612

>>21898590
Some people are destined to be stuck in external locus of control thinking and it's hard to help them.

>> No.21898643

>>21898590
>Black slave men created more within a generation of liberation than women can create in centuries
What are you even talking about, specifically? There are shit ton of women in science, for instance.

>> No.21898658

>>21898612
>>21898590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBgcjtE0xrE

>> No.21898827

>>21896319
young women are outearning men, say what you want about feminism but women finish school at higher rates and get more jobs, by most metrics that aren't sniffing your own farts as you partake in the arts that seems like it did something good for them. Young women also have way more self-respect than the average man, 60% of men under 30 are incels. Don't blame whores for being whores, blame the simps who haven't had a glass of water in the past 3 days and spend their disability checks on findom feet pics to enable this level of thottery.

>> No.21898839

>>21898643
There is not one field of human life in which women are the top performers, and in almost every field, women are constantly complaining they don't get enough handouts and sympathy

>>21898827
>women are better managerial class drones within feminized institutions
Why wouldn't they be? They run them with their redundant affirmative action HR jobs. Male work culture has been destroyed, academia has been destroyed, all merit has fled these institutions. The only men who can thrive in them are feminized and neutered, those types of guys who lisp in an openly gay way yet somehow have wives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOTj9NDv80

>In the three or four civilized European countries, one can in a few centuries educate women to be anything one wants, even men--not in the sexual sense, of course, but certainly in every other sense. At some point, under such an influence, they will have taken on all male virtues and strengths, and of course they will also have to take male weaknesses and vices into the bargain. This much, as I said, one can bring about by force. But how will we endure the intermediate stage it brings with it, which itself can last a few centuries, during which female follies and injustices, their ancient birthright, still claim predominance over everything they will have learned or achieved? This will be the time when anger will constitute the real male emotion, anger over the fact that all the arts and sciences will be overrun and clogged up by shocking dilettantism; bewildering chatter will talk philosophy to death; politics will be more fantastic and partisan than ever; society will be in complete dissolution because women, the preservers of the old custom, will have become ludicrous in their own eyes, and will be intent on standing outside custom in every way. For if women had their greatest power in custom, where will they not have to reach to achieve a similar abundance of power again, after they have given up custom?
- Nietzsche

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>>21898839
WOW women do better in academia and environments where everything is set up in their favor, and where anything remotely masculine is shut down by the feminist hive mind. SHOKING

>> No.21898866

>>21898862
Meant for you fag >>21898827

>> No.21898883

>>21898839
>There is not one field of human life in which women are the top performers
Why are you just changing your point like this?
Due to pregnancy and the fact social difference still exist and may always exist women will always be statistically worse than men. Which is fine.
Unfortunately, retarded incels will always point fingers at these statistics.

>> No.21898890

>>21898883
>there are no female philosophers because on average women have to deal with career delays from pregnancy
A wise man once said "Try one year without whining, complaining, crying, or making excuses and see what happens, if your walnut brain can even conceptualize that."

Go look up the male variability hypothesis and look at the bell curves.

Here is a Camille Paglia quote:
>Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social obstacles: it will overcome. Men's egotism, so disgusting in the talentless, is the source of their greatness as a sex. [...] Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species.

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In the time you spent reading this thread, you could have been reading or writing.

>> No.21899007

>>21898448
Lmao, greentext? Never read those books, they are in my backlog but in the end of the line basically.

>> No.21899056

>>21898166
And, try as you will, if you are unable to fix the problem, they accuse you of not ''listening''.

>> No.21899083

>>21898643
>There are shit ton of women in science, for instance
A shit ton? No, and the ones that are there still exhibit womanly characteristics on the job. While you are doing your job, you have to worry if they are going to fuck up their end or else drag drama into the project.

>> No.21899090

>>21889798
i'm surprised women can even read desu

>> No.21899099

>>21889801
they're right, you know

>> No.21899113

>>21898658
Menopause has hit her harder than the proverbial wall. she's a granny now

>> No.21899200

>>21898658
I watched this. Books for this feel?

>> No.21899201

>>21899113
Nothing wrong with that, she's a human and has the right to be unattractive in old age. It's one of the perks.

>> No.21899346

>>21898892
Churchill was a cunt who is rotting in hell

>> No.21899351

>>21899201
It's just sad. No perks in old age, only coping

>> No.21899384

>>21899113
>ad hominem attack
Not an argument.

>> No.21899388

>>21899384
Calm down autist. I love her, just wish age didn't rape her.

>> No.21899414

>>21899388
The wall spares no one. There is no use lamenting the wall following its destiny.

>> No.21899572

Bumping this goldmine

>> No.21899578

>>21899351
>No perks in old age, only coping
For people born in the 2000s who think the purpose of life is to look hot and fresh while tooling down the street eating gogurts with light up sneakers on then yes, for people who understand that human life is not just one unnaturally prolonged adolescence no

>> No.21899947

>>21899578
aham, i see you're gonna cope like a champ when old age pains catch you.

>> No.21899964

>>21899947
t. madonna

>> No.21899981

>>21899947
All things must yield.

>> No.21899991

>>21899964
Getting bogged is an even worse cope than pretending there is grace in osteoporosis and senility
>>21899981
I hope my heart yields me into a grave before i even need to wake up multiple times a night to piss or something worse

>> No.21900014

>>21899991
>pretending there is grace in osteoporosis and senility
I remember Socrates dabbing on the Athenians for giving him an honorable path off of the mortal plane before he humiliated himself with senility.

>> No.21900019

>>21900014
based

>> No.21900102

>>21898521
My mother was like this and it always bothered me.

>> No.21900206

>>21900102
I know this feel. They often get angry if someone presents information to them, even if they agree with the information, just because the information was not formatted in the exact same way as they are used to encountering it. It reveals a very rigid orthodoxy, probably harboring a lack of mastery of the topic. This reminds me of the inventor of the klystron being caught by an investor in an elevator. During the elevator trip, he was able to give a rough understanding of how pulse radar worked in terms that a layman could understand. He had complete mastery of the topic and his ability to engage with the topic so casually and spontaneously clearly demonstrated such.

>> No.21900537

>>21896728

Women don't have the same calculus as men when it comes to sex. Men are obsessed with physical attractiveness and love, whereas for women those things count for little. What matters for a woman is whether pairing with a given man will improve her position in the social hierarchy. Hence why there are no brothels for women, nor are there millions of women providing money to Chad on OnlyFans.

>> No.21900545

>>21900537
https://youtu.be/bR638YYph5g

>> No.21900588

>>21896111
>>21896180
My ex girlfriend just got her phd in philosophy this week. This is the same woman who once burnt down my kitchen because she didn’t know you were supposed to take off the plastic wrap of a frozen pizza before cooking it. There are no smart women, it’s a lie.
Also I find it strange she went ahead to get a doctorate in philosophy considering she graduated in criminal justice or some such and I could never get her to discuss anything about metaphysics deeper than a puddle because she wanted to watch the kardashians instead. Western civilization is doomed.

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>>21889798
>it’s not twilight

>> No.21900614

>>21900588
Women in Philosophy PhDs are turbo-midwits, they have no love of real cosmological or metaphysical questions, they just regurgitate and annotate. The ones who achieve average male levels of competence in something like logic are always the most uppity about it, but they never have any larger vision, never any interest in anything beyond the technical day to day work that enables them to socialize and feel like a boss bitch. Horrible people, all of them. Not at all like math, where there are women who are at least very serious.

>> No.21900701

>>21898862
How is academia set up for them?

>> No.21901085

>>21891936
Holy shit thanks anon that woman is fucking retarded
>Typically, a good novel will have an interesting plot, significant character development, or thematic or political significance. 2666, though, lacks all of these things.

>> No.21901198

>>21899346
You Nazis lost the war, deal with it and stop crying

>> No.21901342

>>21901198
We all lost.

>> No.21901404

>>21891713

Well he does have Ms. Frizzle as her display photo so she is obviously well versed in good literature and healthy female role models.

>> No.21901411

>>21895761
You're the condescending one by not even understanding what he meant and yet making a bunch of assumptions about him or men and general, as facts, "like men often do". The lack of self awareness in this post could only come from a woman, according to me.

>> No.21901422

>>21896081
>Religion isn’t a cope, Fisherbrain. It’s existence itself.
Funniest post ITT

>> No.21901444

>>21891786

I'm reading Moby Dick right now and one thing that's struck me is how it forces me to read differently. There's a shit load of comma's, It's 30% Comma's. If I don't take the comma's seriously and pause for a good moment, long enough to let what I've just read set into my mind, then I don't really read it properly and it doesn't flow. I'll often just sit there at the comma for longer than the sentence itself.

With other authors I can mentally take not of a comma and read on but in Melville's case it seems I have to do what the Comma tells me.

This is new to me, I'm pretty green. How much Id miss out on if I simply listened to it, is anyone's guess.

>> No.21901568

I only had one ex who was into literature. One day she decided to read C&P, and that made me excited, i couldn't wait to discuss one of my favorite books with her; then, to my surprise, dare i say, she didn't had any observation that went beyond superficial observations like: "that character is so boring!", "oh, that part really sucks", "this character is so crazy", "she reminds me of that meme" and so on. I was so profoundly disappointed by that, since she was someone that i considered to be a smart person, that i couldn't bear to treat her as my equal as well, and coincidentally, our relationship improved after that decision. Even so, the relationship was hell, she only talked about herself and every interesting topic that i brought up to the table was always dismissed or she managed to turn that conversation into a different, more insipid subject, usually about her boring life and problems. Sex was great, though.

>> No.21902016

>>21900588
yeah ''educated women'' is a huge meme lol

>> No.21902023

>>21900537
women also love raw sexual cravings towards Chads. women love to be fucked by Max Hardcore, James Deen, Woodman. Women say it explicitly and they keep doing it.
Women don't love the guy infatuated with beautiful women. What In their teen age men know unconsciously, then very much consciously in their adult age, is that women
-never value the eternal beta orbiter
-women will have debased sex with the first stranger who ''makes them vibrate''

Women don't give a shit about long-term relationships. Women just want to larp over a few days as the non-slut girl and then they want the sex, and they want it bad.

The second strategy women build to avoid viewing themselves as slut is their fantasy of ''summer love'', which is just the situation with the ''stranger which makes them vibrates all over'' extended to a few weeks of casual fun sex with no string attached and zero bad consequence for the girl (especially no pregnancy, which is reached thanks to normalization of abortion).

And by the way, women cannot be degraded, because women are not pure to begin with . Purity of women is myth, built by men but which women find very very useful. Jews know that women are whores, contrary to romans who think women are pure lol. So jews only define jewisness through women, because only the mother is sure to be known by the community. On the opposite side is literally homosexuals like greeks and romans and kings who keep basing their lineages on purity of women, which we all know is a lie.
This is why I will always respect more jews than goys.

What a girl utterly despises are 2 things:
-being called a slut, but only outside of the romp
-having physical contact with repulsive orbiters (but still wants all their attention and all their money) which is why tinder and other onlyfan are a godsend and makes women thrive in democracies

Women don't want to to be respected and make love in the dark with their devoted provider. What women want is to be fucked raw by an Adonis they barely know who makes them squirt everywhere and fuck them until they can barely walk the day after.

Women want the convulsive orgasm where they lose consciousness to the point that they roll their eyes and lose their social self, getting in touch for the first time their true self, ie the sheer whoredom. You think they will get that by looking into the eyes of their generic subservient beta appliance fucking them in the missionary position?
Think again.

>> No.21902112

>>21902023
This simply isn't true. Your mistake lies in the idea that a woman go to men for orgasms. Inequivicably false. Random sex with men is not fulfilling and often times men are really bad at sex. The best earth shaking orgasm I ever had was from a homestuck fanfic.
Here is what I want:
-a husband to breed with (achieved)
-a lifetime supply of stories about men fucking and a dildo (achieved)
-a comfortable home with which to fill with my children (a work in progress)
Chad will never provide an orgasm that can rival the one that comes from a self-administered dildo and no man is ever hotter than gay erotica. You are literally only useful for breeding and nesting. If you want access to a vagina you must provide nesting materials and high quality sperm. Im sorry that's just the way it is. "women do this women do that" I literally do not care. You are worth nothing to me.

>> No.21902140

>>21902023
There are no Jews. Without The Covenant, they literally don't exist. By following the matriarchal line, they broke The Covenant. What we have today are the ''Jews'' from Revelation 3:9.

>> No.21902142

>>21902112
>all that anger
Go yell at your husband about nothing.

>> No.21902159

>>21899099
except they're not, so

>> No.21902167

>>21902142
>anger
If you want to interpret the cold hard facts as hostility, that's on you.
>go yell at your husband about nothing
Maybe I will

>> No.21902178

>>21895438
>>21898166
They're so crude and awkward about it, too. I'll be half-talking with one about work or a show or something and apropros or nothing she'll say "My back hurts" or "this coffee is icky" in a way that makes me think of a bird or squirrel or some jittery animal like that.

>> No.21902300

>>21895684
This is how you go about it anons. Don't be scornful or confrontational, just brush off their pretentions towards any kind of intellectual topics. Gently steer them into the topics they actually want to talk about, namely themselves.

>> No.21902306

>>21895761
retard

>> No.21902375

>>21902023
this man is 100% correct

>> No.21902389

>>21901422
Funny because it's true

>> No.21902396

>>21901568
>i couldn't bear to treat her as my equal as well
You were never meant to. I've found that if you want to converse even with "intelligent" women, you really have to infantilise the way you speak and be non-confrontational. They were created to be man's support and helper, not his intellectual peer. Worst mistake you can make is want to marry a woman who is academically accomplished because you're dealing with a woman with somehow greater hubris than the average modern woman

>> No.21902403

>>21902167
>If you want to interpret the cold hard facts as hostility, that's on you.
What "facts" you dumb creature, you're just coping and not realizing how dumb you sound; i loved how you NEEDED to make a dumb reply to the other anon to express you much you thought he was worthless.
>i-i'm not angry
lol

>> No.21902417

>>21890483
She's right though

>> No.21902418

>>21902403
>you dumb, dumb reply, dumb cope dumb
Get a bigger vocab and stop taking yourself so seriously. I'm not sure why you're getting so assblasted over my shitpost replies

>> No.21902439

>>21902418
case in point

>> No.21902464

>>21902439
I think you might be genuinely retarded

>> No.21902465

>>21902439
If we are not having a good time then we are doing it wrong. There has been nothing good in this thread for ages. Let that hole ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryBk4T4-gw

>> No.21902556

>all these posts
>no bob
>no vagene
I am dissapoint dear sei bastards

>> No.21902681

>>21891424
What book?

>> No.21902742

>>21902681
Otto Weininger - Sex and Character

>> No.21902767

>>21900701
How is it not? If college populations were 60% male, we would definitely hear about this nonstop. I know that's not a true argument/ explanation, but still. Most of it probably has to do with compliance. Women are much more likely to fall into societal order. Modern academia and economy is based on getting good grades in high school--> getting into a good college --> getting degree in whatever is popular at the time--> employment. It is a very systematic institution that isn't pushing forward thinking, but purely adherence to an established hierarchy. Engineering and a few other departments are slightly different because the education is based more on problem solving than repetition/ acceptance. But the actual interest in the learning has been boiled out and replaced with a numbered list. Add in the fact that feminism has only been pushing for representation in white collar jobs, and you have an office/ "educated" workforce tilting towards female representation with that same equality being spread throughout trades and manual labor. Summarized: our whole world is set up to give women pointless busy work to feel better about themselves.

>> No.21902801

>>21902767
I think the system of college test taking was set up before women could even go to college

>> No.21903056

>>21902112
Thanks for your hysterical participation, don’t forget your adderal!

>> No.21903071 [DELETED] 

>>21902023
The problem is with Western men becoming simps after the disaster of secularization and industrialization. Women are not supposed to have much autonomy; they're supposed to imitate the man and emulate his values.
For example, let's say you read a good children's novel that promotes wholesome values and has nice aesthetics. You are supposed to cajole your wife to read it and then discuss and analyze it with her. Even the best picture book artists are typically men...
Sex and having children is overrated. What's essential is to make your wife's values and aesthetic sensibilities significantly align with yours. Significant differences in values or aesthetic sensibilities should not be tolerated.
While I dislike all of Abrahamism, Muslims treat their wives in the way men should. The thing is, Islam is a very stupid tradition, so what you can do is create a better alternative to force upon women.
Women are genetically predisposed to mold themselves after men they devote themselves to. It is your job to ensure they are not led astray in the alleys of vice.
Never marey a contaminated woman (i.e., non-virgin). By having sex with a contaminated woman, you are having sex with all the men before her too.
As a man you must remain masculine while learning and dabbling in the feminine in order to mold your wife into a proper lady.

>> No.21903082

>>21902801
And college test taking has clearly not changed even a little bit in the ensuing what, centuries? You're so fucking intelligent anon-kun.

>> No.21903118

>>21902112
>-a comfortable home with which to fill with my children (a work in progress

It's too late for you roastie

>> No.21903142

Men are for loving
Women are for investing

>> No.21903252

>>21895592
https://youtu.be/UqjhNf1h-v4?t=159

>> No.21903505

>>21891885
kek average mind palace chad take

>> No.21903514

>>21896242
who cares what you want? Either show your tits or fuck off

>> No.21903531

>>21898827
so what? academia rewards being a drone and blindly accepting what they tell you, two things women are incredible at.

I'm not even being snarky btw, I'm legit impressed with how easily women are swayed and just accept anything that's socially acceptable with such fervor. I wish I had that kind of conviction for things that mattered

>> No.21903536

>>21903082
Really? You don't think a huge influx of liberal women professors flooding unis changed exams even a little bit? It's only the male dominated fields that women have less success in STEM fields (hint: it's because STEM mostly deals with numbers and logic, which are unironically more geared towards men)

>> No.21903608

I always wonder if female lurkers actually appreciate seeing what men really think of women when they aren't bound by threats of social ostracism or getting fired. 4chan has to be one of the few spaces left in the modern civilized world where normal white and blue collar men speak their mind freely.

If any simps or retarded women just read the preceding paragraph and are currently scrambling to post "no because I know the only people who express these opinions are bitter incels" you can save your time, I'm only talking to people who can understand the value of harsh and polemical criticism over normie conformity and empty niceness. I'm specifically wondering whether at least some thoughtful women can see through all the superficial polemical aspects and extract the honesty as something valuable.

>> No.21903637

>>21890626
If someone had told me Updike was a boob man I would have read him a long time ago.

>> No.21903638

>>21895202
He does name them as a source of slave-morality. The "Nietzsche loved jews and hated antisemites" hyperbole is just as bad as the people who pretend he's actually a Tradcath populist.

>> No.21903696

>>21895592
Brutal. Womankind will never recover.

>> No.21903731

>>21902112
ywnbam

>> No.21903758

>only like 5 pictures posted in this entire thread
>average post length in thread is 50000 characters per post because incel freaks can't stop essayposting about holes
i genuinely moot dies of GRIDS for bringing back /r9k/ and /pol/ instead of driving you animals out

>> No.21903770

>>21903758
>moot
Who?

>> No.21903771

>>21903608
Women aren’t capable of deep thought and introspection, so unfortunately no, they probably can’t

>> No.21903776

>>21903536
Your reading comprehension score is in the negatives my guy.

>> No.21903793

>>21898890
>criminality and asocial tendencies are correlated to genius
Even this woman is an utter midwit and is more interested in talking about her aesthetic perception of genius than reality.

>> No.21903830

99% of scrotes are literal subhuman animals in every way shape and form inferior to the average roastie whore, but since fate is cruel, the top 1% of men are the only reason society functions. Women are morally, spiritually, and intellectually in the right to engage in hypergamy, as vast majority of men are not simply low value, they are literally negative value, and if they were violently culled off the face of the planet, society would enter a new Golden Age.

>> No.21903834

>>21903830
Society would immediately collapse if they were culled since they do everything

>> No.21903842

>>21903830
>the top 1% of men are the only reason society functions
Someone post that old "red pill comics" with the woman's view vs. man's view please

>> No.21903849

>>21903834
The only parts of society that would suffer if you freaks were culled would be doordash, nintendo, and pornhub, and we're far better off without those.

>> No.21903850

>>21903638
>He does name them
That's literally the most antisemitic thing anyone has ever done.

>> No.21903857

>>21903849
Look to your left and look to your right. Nothing you see would be there without beta males.

>> No.21903899

>>21903857
You've never done manual or trade work in your life. You don't even know how to unclog your own toilet, your geriatric boomer father has to do it for you. Your life revolves around debating the proper roles of women and minorities in superhero movies. You are a useless eater.

>> No.21903903

>>21903776
>>21903536

Sorry that was meant for >>21902801

>> No.21903904
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21903904

>>21903899

>> No.21903907

>>21903608
Unironically, I don't think women are capable of that. Maybe some on the autism spectrum can since they seem to have a very logical mind most times but for the most part, I genuinely don't think women understand why there's even criticism against them to begin with and only see it as 'misogyny' or 'inceldom'.

>> No.21903914

>>21896081
Kek this is good shit right here. Give me another based take, anonpai

>> No.21903918

>>21895921
We are reaching levels of blue pill that I never thought possible

>> No.21903926

>>21903899
Nice try. I am a manual laborer. I don't talk to my dad and I make my wife clean the bathroom. I don't care about gender roles. I havent watched superhero movies since I was a teenager.

>> No.21903949

>>21903830
>the top 1% of men are the only reason society functions
your thinking is a little sloppy. The top 1% of men is the only reason society ever advances, but it's the 99% of men that allow it to function.

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21903950

I'm not even trying to be edgy but all you bluepilled faggots will pay with your life. Of course, not literally, but the suffering with what we call the red pill, or generally, with being aware what women truly are, is nothing compared to the suffering you will experience due to your fantasies about women that they will mercilessly use against you at every given opportunity in life.

>> No.21903955

>>21903950
wait a minute I've been busy and not checking this thread, are there really a bunch of white knights in here? why? who do they think they're saving?

>> No.21903957

>>21895921
The reason men blame the world is because logically, a woman shouldn't have the audacity to be so picky.

Nowadays, a man has to look good, dress well, have some sort of thing going on with his life, has to make (good) money, has to be charming, funny, sexy, sweet, bad boyish, last more than 10 minutes in bed, know how to please a woman but also not be interested in other women, provide, protect, suppress his natural inclination to want other women, entertain, banter, be socially competent... For a woman to then dismiss their very existence because... "the vibe wasn't there XD" or "he's too nice".

Bitch, you better be licking my nuts as soon as you realize I'm willing to be a good man to you. What the hell do women have to do except exist and wait for a man to try and fuck them? What do they bring to the table other than pussy?

I'm way past the anger that comes from that but if you think that men who complain are man-children over how completely autistically women choose men, you're either a woman or have never interacted with a woman. Women need to be arranged into marriages again because it's clear that they have no clue how to keep a good man

>> No.21903963

>>21903950
Pretty much. I hurt for a long time after I was red pilled back in 2016 but I'm glad I was because holy shit, my life would've sucked

>> No.21903973

>>21903957
We either have to regress into arranged marriages or we have to progress (and I know that's a poisoned term) into holding women accountable for the same virtues as men and utterly rejecting female parasites from society. Doing that while retaining the realistic knowledge that women are not 'just the same' as men is a very difficult balancing act though, so most people default to the reactionary position.

>> No.21903977

>>21898892
I wish to hone my misogyny

>> No.21904022

>>21903536
how did test taking change

>> No.21904040

>>21903957
If you don't like them then don't date them, no one is forcing you to

>> No.21904182

>>21904022
Standardization of test taking literally removes critical thinking skills from being a tested subject. Now its how good are you at following the instructions. Not that this specifically targets or advantages women, but it is a notable change that has allowed large amounts of non-critical thinkers into the higher education system while simultaneously excluding men at the highest end of the intelligence spectrum who typically struggle with coloring in the lines.
A more specifically sex-targeted change in education has been the universal demonization of traditional male youth behavioral tendencies, or in effect the feminization of young boys in the education system. This massively disadvantages young males at the earliest possible point in their education by enforcing maladjusted behaviors onto them and in the worst cases chemically altering their behavior to the point of medication dependence, which systematically destroys their prospects at higher education.

>> No.21904241

>>21904040
typical woman "everyone is an individual just do what u want :P" worldview enabled by countless invisible men making the world keep running beneath her feet

shut up roastoid this mentality is a historical anomaly and look what it caused, it will be replaced soon, if not by whites seeking to unfuck their society then by non whites who replace them through having a non fucked society

>> No.21904336

>>21904241
What do you want women to legally have to date ugly men?
No one cares if you can't get a girlfriend. I'm sorry girls dont like you but raging on 4chan isn't going to fix it

>> No.21904351

>>21904336
>women shouldn't date ugly men
ayo das diskuhrimination yo muhfuggin bigot ass honkie

>> No.21904396

>>21903973
>we have to hold women accountable
>women
>accountable
stopped reading there

>> No.21904400

>>21904336
Not him, but you utterly retarded whore, no one is raging that you're unwilling to date ugly men, hell, we're unwilling to date ugly women for the most part as well.

The problem is your perpetual infantile stance towards society, men, and sexual dynamics. You see, a man can see an imperfect (physical) women, and can rationalize other traits and factors that make her acceptable as a partner for the future. Is she good a person? A good wife? A good mother? Emphatic?

Women operate on instinctual behavior that is understandable to men, but absolutely abhorrent due to the fact that it is not based on any logic. It's a childlike level of fascination with surface level traits, no way to calculate anything for the future - or, is that why women write love letters to prisoners and serial killers; you operate on the thing Zoomers call "vibes", which is an undefinable feeling based entirely on a milisecond with no real connection the person you're vibing with.

Therefore, men are not mad that they're undesirable, or that you don't want men that are ugly, it's that every aspect of what we would call virtue, goodness, selflessness and so on is absolutely undesirable to women. It destroys the fundamental foundation of male psychology which is to protect, to in some sense keep you safe from the world with his offspring. Yet, you keep negating that very instinct with your choices, your absolutely whorish and shameful fixation on everything that is fleeting, shallow, sometimes downright evil. You force good men that would dissolve themselves in an acid vat to protect you to embrace evil as a mating strategy, you force them to be selfish, destructive, you make them go against their nature. And even if they find success with you after their metamorphosis they will never forgive you, because when they look in the mirror they just see the mask they created to have an opportunity to shove their dick up your pussy.

Compared to women, if we could zoom out, look at all things considered, create a psychological and biological profile of the average - men are saints. If the world was left to you there would be no goodness, religious, philosophical, see it as you will, because you can never sacrifice, never be selfless, you have no soul, you have no will for truth, you are amoral beyond redemption. If I could somehow turn every hot women I've been with into a guy, I'd consider them mediocre and uninteresting at best, downright selfish and evil at worst.

>> No.21904430

>>21891992
It is true, faggot. Sorry you aren't white.

>> No.21904512

>>21895761
Shut up ,whore.

>> No.21904524

>>21895921
Women are retarded and don't realizes that you will end up looking uglier and smellier than a man of the same age. Cope whores, lololololololololololololololololololol for days nigger. HAHA IM FREE BITCH! LICK MY FUCKING SACK!

>> No.21904527

can we PLEASE have another thread about women since I'm feeling like venting

>> No.21904539

>>21904336
We have to date ugly women so why not? Y'all all look like a fish with the top of a cake slapped on where your face used to be. You also probably smell like something is rotting in your meat sock.

>> No.21904574

>>21904400
I mean... so? I don't care. I skimmed your 4 paragraph rant but I don't know, just get over it. What do you want me to do

>> No.21904587

>>21904539
No one is forcing you to date ugly women, if you don't want to then dont

>> No.21904593

>>21904574
kill yourself you permanent whore

>> No.21904904

stop feeding the pathetic woman attention, she will get confused and leave