/lit/ - Literature

>>21888343
>Descartes' Secret Notebook (2005) citing René Descartes: Correspondance avec Elizabeth et autres lettres (1989) ed., Jean-Marie and M. Beysaade, pp. 245
so apparently Descartes retroactively quoted Evola?

>>21888343
You can tell the person who wrote this is too stupid to emulate Evola's complex writing style.

>>21888362
>ed., Jean-Marie and M. Beysaade, pp. 245-246.
No, you brainlet. Look it up.

>>21888362
Yes, you do know how to retroactively quote someone, right?

>>21888374
You posted a fake quote you dumb shitskin, post a link to the actual quote if it exists to prove me wrong. You can't.

>>21888377
Are you legitimately retarded?

Imagine the type of freak who sits in tranny discords all day and posts this shitty bait. He's been doing it for well over a year too.

>>21888380
>post a link to the actual quote if it exists to prove me wrong. You can't.

Why are you so angry? Are you an incel? Maybe you need a good prostate fucking to calm you down.

Anyways, I don't have the book digitally, nor online. I found it in a library that's a two-hours drive away from me and no longer have it.

>>21888382
>he doesn't know

>>21888395
I'm just bullying you into submission.
>Maybe you need a good prostate fucking to calm you down.
I'm not a sexual degenerate like you. You're an animal, not even human.
>Anyways, I don't have the book digitally, nor online. I found it in a library that's a two-hours drive away from me and no longer have it.
I actually just astral projected and saw you jerking off to sissy hypno furry porn just now, I read your pathetic faggot pedophile aura to confirm that you're lying and that you made the quote up while you were masturbating in your mom's basement. Prove me wrong.

>>21888395
>Anyways, I don't have the book digitally, nor online. I found it in a library that's a two-hours drive away from me and no longer have it.
You're too stupid to even transcribe a couple sentences correctly, i don't believe anything you say.
>pretending you have a driver's license
My sides

>>21888343
>Letter to Pierre Chanut (Nov. 1, 1646) as quoted by Amir Aczel, Descartes' Secret Notebook (2005) citing René Descartes: Correspondance avec Elizabeth et autres lettres (1989) ed., Jean-Marie and M. Beysaade, pp. 245-246.
Alright I'll bite.
>The quote doesn't exist
of course.

>>21888343
Why do trannies and 3rd world degenerates project their bestiality fetishes onto white women all the time?

>>21888423
Get out of here, chuddy, stop embarrasing yourself. This thread is for serious discussion. You can piss and soil yourself and cry and scream but it makes no difference to the truth. Go back to /pol/.

>>21888444
Because metaphysically these people serve "Ahrimanic" or "Satanic" or "evil" forces. They are against the light of Truth/Love/Joy/Sun. They quite literally are demonic or influenced by demons.

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>>21888450
Ask that of your beloved Evola. Wasn't he all about White Supremacy???

>Get out of here, chuddy, stop embarrasing yourself. This thread is for serious discussion. You can piss and soil yourself and cry and scream but it makes no difference to the truth. Go back to /pol/.

>>21888449
>serious discussion
HAHAHAHAHA
You can't even post a source for your shitty fake quote, you're being laughed at. You're too stupid to immitate Evola's style too. Get to work on your wrists in a hot bath, crossdressing freak.

>>21888457
>literally too stupid to follow the conversation
Tie the noose.

>>21888457
>MUH WHITE SUPREMACY
You're a stinky crossdressing subhuman leeching off your parents well into adulthood crying about non-existent nazis on the internet. Do you know what a fucking loser you are?

>>21888450
It would be surprisingly easy to set out a theory of troondom using both Steiner's Ahrimanic concept (since they are being manipulated by disintegrating, anti-human forces into being vessels), Guenon's concept of quantity (the application is obvious), and Evola's concept of abyssal/telluric forces overwhelming people whose "formation" starts to break down and who are thus open to influences from other planes, but cut off from higher planes and only really open to lower ones

Troons are very similar to some of the hollowed-out monstrous people used as slaves and psychic terror weapons by the mind parasites in Wilson's The Mind Parasites. I'm thinking of the guy whose connections to his own soul/the spiritual world they severed, and also the Andy Warhol character who was like a walking psychic weapon that spread nihilism wherever it went

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>>21888380
Samefag /pol/cel. You are an embrassment to this forum and to your parents.

Evolabros…not like this….

>>21888473
>doesn't even know what samefagging is
>n-no YOU live with your parents
>MUH POL!
How pathetic. You will never be a woman. You will never have sex. No woman will ever find you desirable. You're literally a failed incel.

Kill yourself, faggot.

>>21888473
>Gets refuted
>Cries about pol
Your parents pray for you to commit suicide, fag.

>>21888482
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>>21888501
>homosexuality: the image

>>21888512
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>>21888501
Rent free

>>21888521
Don't mind me, I'm just laughing how at brutally they're bullying you. Keep coping.

>>21888516
>faggot who watches gay porn everyday insists that others are gay too
You're mentally ill. There are probably worms in your brain, you can't think straight.

>>21888521
Kek this is the most obvious projection I've ever seen, subhuman. Now get to work on your wrists.

Why are trannies usually lower in IQ and more likely to commit suicide? Is it true that theyre losers who sit in discord all day masturbating?

>>21888542
Well imagine walking around public in a dress looking like the most obvious faggot pedophile to everyone, while your parents are disgusted and ashamed, but too nice to say anything/afraid of you. Being a tranny is a living hell. These people are severely mentally ill, just look at the posts by OP itt.

>troon OP still can't post the source
I think you guys legitimately made him khs

>>21888573
Praise Allah.

>>21888457
Do you even read the posts you reply to? Can you even read?

>>21888444
That picture is fucking horrifying.
>these are the people calling you an incel on 4chan

>>21888343
Fake quote.
I respect Evola, even with significant disagreements, but his fans here piss me off a lot. Also, most of them just twist what Evola is saying and shoehorn their own views to shill.

>>21888374
so those guys edited an Evola quote into one of Descartes's notebooks? what's the point of that? was Evola a reincarnation of Descartes or something?

>>21888625
You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that whoever posted this is a fan of Evola and not a tranny trolling Evola readers.

>>21888651
No, they're just lying, they've been doing this for well over a year. Mods don't care about it either.

>>21888692
it's one thing to lie. but whoever came up with this lie didn't make it believable. why the fuck would an Evola quote be in some weird edition of Descartes's notebooks? it sounds like somebody just copied their current semester's reading list when coming up with a citation

Yikes, what a cuck. I was going to read him because he seemed trad but there must be better options

>>21888692
>You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that whoever posted this is a fan of Evola and not a tranny trolling Evola readers.
I was talking in general like that retard who always yells "shitskin" and acts like Evola wanted to genocide every Muslim when in fact he called Islam superior to both Christianity and Judaism in Revolt. I don't agree with him though. I think all of Abrahamism is equally bad, but I agree with him that Protestants are the worst out of the bunch for how the paved the way to the cancer of industrialization and "work as religion".

>>21888716
>the paved
they paved*

>>21888441
/Thread
I hereby motion for the immediate suicide of OP. All in favor say 'kys op'

>>21888711
OP is just a stupid boneheaded troon

>>21888713
Kek you retard

>>21888716
Shitskin is just a funny word, sorry it hurts your feelings, why can't nonwhites handle bantz?

>>21888764
We are already working with Pazuzu on the astral to protect white women from trannies and hostile 3rd worlders. Trannies a là OP who are trying to fight the Traditionalist resurgence are already tormented in their sleep and have their corrupted life energy vampirized, but they don't remember a thing.

>>21888849
Stfu, snownig peasant trash.

>>21888893
Germanics are the most noble race, you're coping. Traditionally, that is to say normally, darker skin tones are associated with lower castes.

Even in India today light skin is synonymous with higher caste, dark skin with lower caste.

These are just generalizations of course.

>>21888876
I'm projecting my tulpa onto OP's liminal substrata as we speak

>>21888917
>Germanics are the most noble race
Back then, yes, especially during Ghibelline times, but now they are the worst and most insufferable of all races.

>>21888926
Wrong. 3rd worlders are so eager to run to the white materialist and liberally degenerate countries by the 10s of millions, and when they come they bring the quality down even more. You're just biased against white people because they make you feel insecure, you wish you were more white, I see Indians doing this all the time. Trying to show off how white Indians can be. Same with Muslims and Asians. Low-class garbage. Loud and obnoxious, smelly, no respect for the environment or their neighbors.

Also, Germanic or not, white features are the most beautiful and noble.

>>21888919
Project her onto mine too, Wizard! Let her help me for a while!

>>21888970
>3rd worlders are so eager to run to the white materialist and liberally degenerate countries by the 10s of millions, and when they come they bring the quality down even more
I'm not claiming they're significantly better. It's just they didn't *start* the problem. I would blame those who *start* problems more than those who exacerbate it further. Even Evola near the end of Revolt makes it clear the problem began with Protestantism leading to "work as religion" and valuing material progress over higher ideals. While the Germanics had a great traditional culture oriented towards the above during the Middle Ages, in modern times they were the ones to pave the way to Anti-Traditio with industrialization, which Evola greatly critiqued too.
>You're just biased against white people because they make you feel insecure, you wish you were more white
Stop strawmanning retarded cunt. I'll tell you why I despise MODERN white people. Because they won't shut the fuck up about a profane conception of "progress". The very notion of "progress" in relation to technological and material progress is the root of these Anti-Traditional times, which Evola would agree. This notion of "progress" came from modernized Germanic snownigs.
I have no sympathy for your plight when you keep digging your hole deeper.
>Also, Germanic or not, white features are the most beautiful and noble.
You're disingenuous trash. Evola is focusing on deeper metaphysical topics than your vain obsession with superficial appearance. I have light skin and want nothing to do with you modern snow nig trash. My cousin has blue eyes and blonde hair too and rightly views you all as savages.
Your race started this downward spiral and trainwreck, which other people had to hop on to barely survive.

>>21889006
top kek

>>21889006
This is just more cope. If any race of people are going to save the West and thus the globe, it will be whites. The biggest fighters against global technocracy and sjw cancer, who will put their lives on the line, or actually change their lifestyle and ditch the degenerate metropolitan cuckery, are whites. Whites flee from cities, nonwhites coalesce around them and make them more dirty, violent, depressing, etc. As soon as the West begins to fall, all the nonwhites will just run away to their home countries, as they ran from them in the first place. There is nothing noble in the average 3rd worlder.

The reason Germanics paved the way for anti-Tradition comes from subversive elements embedded in their societies. Possibly jews, but ultimately it is of a non-human origin.
>progress
Nonwhites buy into this just as much or more, they are all "modernizing" or "progressing", much more frantically than whites ever did.

It took the West hundreds or thousands of years to go from Traditional to anti-Traditional. The east accomplished this decline in a couple decades. Why were degenerate whites so easily able to corrupt their nations? Why did all the nonwhites take to the degenerate materialism so fervently? There is nothing noble there. At least whites were conquering the globe again, even if what they were doing was spreading anti-Traditional cancer.

>>21889006
>My cousin has blue eyes and blonde hair
Also you're proving my point about nonwhites valuing white features. Why would you tell me this? I don't care, I know that ancient Iranians had white features.

>>21889130
>The reason Germanics paved the way for anti-Tradition comes from subversive elements embedded in their societies. Possibly jews, but ultimately it is of a non-human origin
A truly superior race would have been able to expunge it before it reached this massive and complex scale. It is almost intractable now.
>If any race of people are going to save the West and thus the globe, it will be whites.
These problems were started by whites, but I don't think they will truly fix it. The ones who previously wanted to truly fix it like Pentti Linkola, Ludwig Klages, Kaczynski, David Skrbina, and Evola, were marginalized in academic discourse.
>The biggest fighters against global technocracy and sjw cancer, who will put their lives on the line, or actually change their lifestyle and ditch the degenerate metropolitan cuckery, are whites
The biggest voices supporting degenerate metropolitan cuckery are also whites. Just look at how modern USA basically has Europe as a vassal and uses globohomo as a banner to fight more senseless wars.
>As soon as the West begins to fall, all the nonwhites will just run away to their home countries, as they ran from them in the first place
Well, I consider my parents to have made a grave mistake coming to your declining hypocritical countries, so yeah, I will leave eventually. I agree that 2nd generation immigrants who have children in your collapsing countries are asking for trouble.
>The east accomplished this decline in a couple decades.
The decline in the East began with Anglo-Jews carving up the region after Ottoman collapse. Before Ottoman collapse, it was entirely different and more stable.
What happened in Syria would take decades to achieve in pre-industrial times. These advanced artillery make Mongols look far preferable.
>At least whites were conquering the globe again, even if what they were doing was spreading anti-Traditional cancer
At least you admit to spreading Anti-Traditional cancer. There is absolutely nothing noble in that. You're not interested in gloating and claiming superiority rather than getting to the root of the issue in an honest way.
>Why did all the nonwhites take to the degenerate materialism so fervently?
I've never argued they're great in modern times. Most of them are trash just like you. There are only a few exceptions like me.
Granted, I was arguing your race started the Anti-Traditional sewage that everyone started drinking from, including Easterners especially after Ottoman collapse.

>>21889148
I don't value white features. What I value is patriline. I would rather have dark features and know for sure I descend from a king from patrilineal side.
You can have light features and still descend from an interminable line of peasants like you.
Only the patriline matters. Women don't matter.
>I know that ancient Iranians had white features.
I wouldn't be surprised if some Zagrosians like Gutians had lighter features than Persian royalty. Don't give a shit about that superficial stuff when compared to the Transcendent, which you're completely cut off from as a Spiritual Jew.

>>21889171
>You're not interested
You're more interested*

>>21889171
>A truly superior race would have been able to expunge it before it reached this massive and complex scale.
That's literally what they did for thousands of years.
>These problems were started by whites
No they weren't, this is a materialistic interpretation. The origin of these forces is non-human, whites are just the most effective vessel, since they are the pioneers and conquerors.
>Just look at how modern US
Modern USA is controlled by Jews, whites have no real power in it.
>There is absolutely nothing noble in that
Conquering new continents is noble, the problem was the anti-Traditional orientation.
>Granted, I was arguing your race started the Anti-Traditional sewage
Wrong. I've already refuted this

>>21889176
>have dark features
>descend from a king from patrilineal side
Unlikely. The slave castes were darker in all Traditional (normal) civilisations.
>You can have light features and still descend from an interminable line of peasants
Maybe theoretically. In general, Germanic or Aryan blood is more noble. You can see it in the way Whites behave vs the average turd worlder. Evola talks about the Aryan spirit, which would have been passed down through the blood.

>>21889206
>That's literally what they did for thousands of years.
Why couldn't you cut the root of the problem instead of allowing it to metastasize into a cancer of this unparalleled magnitude? It is pretty much intractable during these globalist nightmarish times.
>The origin of these forces is non-human, whites are just the most effective vessel, since they are the pioneers and conquerors.
A truly superior peoples would have ended the "non-human" decadent force rather than become possessed and vehicles for the spread of the Anti-Tradition.
>Modern USA is controlled by Jews, whites have no real power in it.
Everything you're saying makes it sound like modern whites are impotent and not spiritually virile. A truly virile and superior people would have had the power to prevent becoming pawns to globalist catastrophic nightmare.
>Conquering new continents is noble, the problem was the anti-Traditional orientation.
Colonization is not the same as conquering the way Alexander did. I agree that conquering can be noble such as Alexander, but you have nothing in common with his virtues and weltanschauung anymore. Alexander would not consider the modern West as oriented towards the Transcendent.
>Wrong. I've already refuted this
A truly superior peoples wouldn't have let themselves become pawns or possessed by the non-human Anti-Traditional force.
As I see it, the problem is intractable now.

>>21889176
>I don't value white features
Then why did you tell me about your Aryan-looking cousin and your blue-eyes?

You're a coping mutt who has subsaharan admixture.
>Spiritual Jew
Why would a spiritual Jew be having conversations about the nobility of Aryan blood, the superiority of spirit over matter, and the plight of modern materialism? You idiot.

>>21889221
>Unlikely. The slave castes were darker in all Traditional (normal) civilisations
But a lot of time has passed from then, and it is impossible to tell whether one patrilineally descends from them based on superficial phenotypical features. For example, epigenetics and women can change the appearance too.
>You can see it in the way Whites behave vs the average turd worlder. Evola talks about the Aryan spirit, which would have been passed down through the blood
Evola says the quadripartite caste system existed in all truly Traditional societies, but he also said a "woman cannot be contaminated" and one's caste is determined from patriline. What ultimately determines spiritual caste is whether your great great... father during the Middle Ages was a serf, farmer/artisan, ascetic warrior, or priest.

>>21889228
>Then why did you tell me about your Aryan-looking cousin and your blue-eyes?
To subtly mock you and make aware of your asinine claim.
>You're a coping mutt who has subsaharan admixture
I checked G25 and didn't notice any SSA admixture.
Also, what matters more is patriline to Evola.
>Why would a spiritual Jew be having conversations about the nobility of Aryan blood, the superiority of spirit over matter, and the plight of modern materialism? You idiot.
You're doing a lousy job of discussing the plight of modern materialism.
If the blood of your race were so noble, then why did many of then become possessed by the Anti-Traditional force?

>>21889224
>Why couldn't you cut the root of the problem instead of allowing it to metastasize into a cancer of this unparalleled magnitude?
They tried to.
>A truly superior peoples would have ended the "non-human" decadent force rather than become possessed and vehicles for the spread of the Anti-Tradition.
Speculation. You can't know what the ancient Aryans thought. They didn't wipe out shudras and merchants, they subjugated them.
>Everything you're saying makes it sound like modern whites are impotent and not spiritually virile
It's a gradual process of decline happening over thousands of years. The modern white isn't spiritually virile. Neither is any other race. My point was that if spiritual virility is reborn, it will come from whites who will want to take back their countries, and not run somewhere else like cowardly 3rd world shudras.
>Colonization is not the same as conquering the way Alexander did. I
The West colonized and conquered distant lands.
>A truly superior peoples wouldn't have let themselves become pawns or possessed by the non-human Anti-Traditional force.
That doesn't even make sense. Are you saying Kings and Brahmins aren't superior because their civilisations fell to merchants and shudras?

Is a lion not superior to a poisoned rat that manages to kill it by biting it, even though the lion would win 99.9% of the time?

This is nonsense.

Bye.

P.S. read Evola's more esoteric works. Like Doctrine of Awakening or Intro to Magic. I'd like to know your thoughts.

>>21888542
All trannies are schizophrenic by the very nature of being trans. Transgenderism itself is a delusion

>>21889249
>They tried to.
A truly superior race wouldn't have failed.
>You can't know what the ancient Aryans thought.
The earliest Upanishads seem to convey the heart of their thought well.
>The modern white isn't spiritually virile. Neither is any other race.
I can agree with this, but I would say modern whites are to blame more for being the first to unleash these Anti-Traditional forces.
>My point was that if spiritual virility is reborn, it will come from whites who will want to take back their countries,
They'll just be manipulated by the non-human Anti-Traditional force again, or perhaps make another compromise or pact, but be even more arrogant and haughty like you, while trying to keep the facade of nobility.
>not run somewhere else like cowardly 3rd world shudras.
Shouldn't have opened borders to them, manipulated or not.
I wouldn't agree *all* of them are shudras either, but let's accept that for the time being. Who is worse? The snownig who opens his border to the shudra or the shudra taking advantage of obvious weakness.
>The West colonized and conquered distant lands.
Colonization is different from conquering. The former is only possible through industrialization and does not involve cultural exchange.
>Is a lion not superior to a poisoned rat that manages to kill it by biting it, even though the lion would win 99.9% of the time?
Imagine if the lion unfortunately went extinct from poisoned rats. The lion never learned how to properly avoid the poisoned rats, yet during the lion's final breaths, it still claims superiority. It wouldn't make sense...

Truthfully, I'm not interested in claiming superiority or inferiority. I just don't think modern whites are superior at all as a whole, and I get tired of people like you constantly gloating as problems upon problems pile up on one another.