/lit/ - Literature

Disagree.

>>21869065
You might be interesting, but hating things isn’t why.

>>21869048
Not /lit/, fuck you.

get a real job keesha

>>21869073
What do you think of Harry Potter?

It does if you hate them for the right reasons.

>>21869195
*poops between the pages and slams it shut in your face* haha oopsie doodles uh oh

>>21869048
This is /lit/. The classics are more popular than most modern works, it's why they've made it so long
>Moby dick
>heart of Darkness
>the iliad
>beowulf
Etc.
Most here have read at least one or two classics. It's the philosophy threads where non has actually read anything

>>21869065
>>21869073
>>21869088
>>21869217
>>21869219
Cope and seethe fagets

>>21869048
fuck back off to tv heeb

>>21869224
Harry Potter is probably the most popular book series on the planet and it's pretty much universally reviled here

>>21869254
because it fucking sucks

>>21869258
See, >>21869048

>>21869259
See, >>21869219

>>21869290
See, >>21869048

>>21869239
>>21869254
>>21869258
>>21869290
See, >>21869225

>>21869048
If you love normie NPC shit so much GO TO FUCKING REDIT YOU PUNK ASS BITCH

>>21869048
contrarianism is just the first step to developing a personal critical dialectic that does make you an interesting individual unlike the tribalist whores that keep reposting this picture
I hate women so fucking much it's unreal

>>21869048

>As today his surroundings do not so force him, the eternal mass-man, true to his character, ceases to appeal to any authority other than himself, and feels himself lord of his own existence. Conversely the select man, the excellent man is urged by interior necessity to appeal to some standard beyond himself, superior to himself, into whose service he freely enters. ... Contrary to what is usually thought, it is the man of excellence, not the common man who lives in essential servitude. Life has no savour for him unless he makes it consist in service to something transcendent. Hence he does not look upon the necessity of serving as an oppression. When, by chance, such necessity is lacking, he grows restless and invents some new standard, more difficult, more exigent, with which to coerce himself. This is life lived as a discipline — the noble life.

>Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us — by obligations, not by rights. Noblesse oblige. "To live as one likes is plebeian; the noble man aspires to order and law" (Goethe). The privileges of nobility are not in their origin concessions or favours; on the contrary, they are conquests. And their maintenance supposes, in principle, that the privileged individual is capable of reconquering them, at any moment, if it were necessary, and if anyone were to dispute them. ... It is annoying to see the degeneration suffered in today's speech by a word so inspiring as "nobility." For, by coming to mean for many people hereditary "noble blood," it is changed into something similar to common rights, into a static, passive quality which is received and transmitted, something inert. But the strict sense, the etymon of the word nobility, is essentially dynamic. Noble means the "well known," that is, known by everyone, famous, he who has made himself known by excelling the anonymous mass.

>As one advances in life, one realises more and more that the majority of men — and of women — are incapable of any other effort than that strictly imposed on them as a reaction to external compulsion. And for that reason, those few individuals we come across who are capable of spontaneous and joyous effort stand out isolated, monumentalised, so to speak, in our experience. These are the select men, the nobles, the only ones who are active and not merely reactive, for whom life is a perpetual striving, an incessant course of training. Training = askesis. These are the ascetics.

>>21869354

>One must shed the bad taste of wanting to agree with many. “Good” is no longer good when one’s neighbor mouths it. And how should there be a “common good”! The term contradicts itself: whatever can be common always has little value. In the end it must be as it is and always has been: great things remain for the great, abysses for the profound, nuances and shudders for the refined, and, in brief, all that is rare for the rare.

>>21869048
Liking popular things makes you extremely uninteresting.

>>21869048
Listen faggot I don't say HP is bad because lots of people like it, I say its bad because it is. Same goes for most people who shit on popular things. You're just seething that all the shit you love gets called out for being the trash that it really is.

>Thus the "they" maintains itself factically in the averageness of that which belongs to it, of that which it regards as valid and that which it does not, and of that to which it grants success and that to which it denies it. In this averageness with which it prescribes what can and may be ventured, it keeps watch over everything exceptional that thrusts itself to the fore. Every kind of priority gets noiselessly suppressed. Ovemight, everything that is primordial gets glossed over as something that has long been weIl known. Everything gained by a struggle becomes just something to be manipulated. Every secret loses its force. This care of averageness reveals in tum an essential tendency of Dasein which we calI the "levelling down" [Einebnung] of all possibilities of Being. Distantiality, averageness, and levelling down, as ways of Being for the "they", constitute what we know as 'publicness' ["die Offentlichkeit"].

>Publicness proximally controls every way in which the world and Dasein get interpreted, and it is always right-not because there is sorne distinctive and primary relationship-of-Being in which it is related to 'Things', or because it avails itself of sorne transparency on the part of Dasein which it has explicitly appropriated, but because it is insensitive to every difference of level and of genuineness and thus never gets to the 'heart of the matter' ["auf die Sachen"]. By publicness everything gets obscured, and what has thus been covereà up gets passed off as something familiar and accessible to everyone.

>The Self of everyday Dasein is the they-self, which we distinguish from the authentic Seif - that is, from the Self which has been taken hold of in its own way [eigens ergriffenen]. As they-self, the particular Dasein has been. dispersed into the "they", and must first find itself. This dispersal characterizes the 'subject' of that kind of Being which we know as concernful absorption in the world we encounter as closest to us. If Dasein is familiar with itself as they-self, this means at the same time that the "they" itself prescribes that way of interpreting the world and Being-in-the-world which lies closest. Dasein is for the sake of the "they" in an everyday manner, and the "they" itself Articulates the referential context of significance. When entities are encountered, Dasein's world frees them for a totality of involvements with which the "they" is familiar, and within the limits which have been established with the "they's" averageness.

>>21869048
>advocating being an npc

Is there an assumption that disliking a thing is done for "interest"? And why doesn't this work in both directions? People LOVE to follow trends to be accepted, but where's the lamentation?

Seems like a narcissistic viewpoint: don't dislike what I like.

>that kid in school that highlighted the entire page because he too dumb to think abstractly

>>21869048
Don't use kirby to redditpost you fucking nigger

I don't hate Harry Potter I think it's a perfectly good children's series. But do you expect it to generate endless discussion or something?

>>21869048
I hate Kirby.

Except it does, so.

>>21869048
i never said being a non-retard was interesting

It dosent make you cool or interesting or make you have good taste, yes. But it signifies that the person may have better taste in whatever it is. The 80s and 90s were the last generations to have cerebral and interesting popular entertainment. It was an especially flourishing time for music with so many great genres appearing in an almost 4 year span from each other. Movies were at least still trying to achieve some independent narrative and emotional storytelling through non-cliche ways. I’d be hard pressed to name a 3 month span since 2000 where popular media has produced genuinely impressive works like the Matrix or Goodfellas, My Bloody Valentine or Talking Heads. Sure, there are the occasional works that more and more these days are passion projects that happen to become popular instead of being made for popularity. But, the vast majority of popular entertainment today is audiovisual goyslop intended to pique your interest for long enough that an ad can roll around. You can make the case that it’s always been that way, but the key difference between then and now is that people used to actually engage with their media instead of passively engulfing it. People used to actually talk about what they thought the red room in Twin Peaks meant, have theories and debate them. The Sopranos was as much a reason to watch a good TV show as it was to have discussions about narrative with friends at the bar. The internetization of popular media has rendered into a set of neurologically enticing sounds and colors to engage biological attentiveness as a prey/predator reaction. Look at a movie from before 2000, you’ll notice they didn’t have boom sound effects and a different shot every 20 seconds to keep the primal part of your brain that searches for novelty in the environment active. Likewise, music has become the competition to find the catchiest and most easily palatable melody you can slap over a 4/4 in a verse chorus verse chorus chorus scheme with at least one line you can scream/sing along to enmesh the memory of that song seamlessly enough with whatever you were doing at the time so that you’ll remember it and maybe, if the jingle was catchy enough, listen to it again. Give them money. Essentially, if you can even stomach these sensory offenses for long enough to comprehend the dimly structured themes and messages of the work beyond avarice then you’ve got quite the stomach for goyslop.

>>21869225
Why are you frothing? You only see this type of neuroticism with certain isreali phenotypes.