/lit/ - Literature

what a load of shit

>>21847666
>...and in whose eyes the life of a woman -- what do I say, the life of a woman? the lives of all women who dwell on the face of the earth, are as insignificant as the crushing of a fly.

>>21847666
Sometimes I love women.

>>21847885
Wait a minute Dana Avalon is a character from Reza Jorjani's novel. That's just a random women.

>>21847892
It looks like Jorjani’s face morphed into a woman’s with some software program for that lol

No, they told me to write what I know and I don't know any women.

>>21847666
I wrote a horror story with a female protagonist. I don't really get what the big deal is, it didn't feel any different than writing a male character.

>>21847666
Such a long-winded passage saying so little.. that's some dogshit academic prose.

>>21847666
All my (planned) books have women as well as men.

No, I am not yet ready to be crucified by redditors. I am far too sensitive to see my work appear on /r/menwritingwomen so instead, everyone is gay and they live and gay space planet 4. I am not gay and I find the gays terrifying and queer. Still, I find it more beneficial to conquer my fear of butt sex than my fear of criticism.

>>21847666
Yes. When I was like 6 I wrote like a 20 page story where the mother killed someone because she was getting divorced and wanted to frame the husband to get full custody. She then got arrested and the kid got a puppy from his dad to make up for it. I believe it literally ended with something along the lines of it's not all so bad.

>>21847666
wouldn't it be funny if everyone here has written work which contains ONLY male characters? lolol

>>21848325
probably because you're actually a real writer

Well, duh. I don't want my stories to be sausage parties. Gross.

>>21847666
>Have you ever written a female character into your stories?
Of course. They are like 51% of the population. It would be weird not to have any women in most stories.

>>21847666
I wrote an erotica story starring me and my brothers wife (pic related) loosely adaptated from the story of Onan in the Old Testament.

>>21849568
Dude...the best case is that's Chris Farley in drag.

Yeah she broke up with my self insert

>>21848325
that's because you just wrote a male protagonist with a female name

>>21849289
it could very well be the opposite. we can't conclude anything

>>21849289
Thank you, I certainly hope so.
>>21849884
>that's because you just wrote a male protagonist with a female name
I don’t think men and women are as vastly different as you’re implying. We both experience the same feelings and probably mostly the same thoughts. I’m not saying we’re identical, but I do think we’re more alike than different.

>>21849896
maaybe
>I’m not saying we’re identical, but I do think we’re more alike than different.
such a rational, level-headed position could only be taken by a male. this is probably true if we weight all aspects equally. however, we are different in fundamental ways that may affect certain crucial behavior.

honestly, other than genesis, i think the most accurate female monologue ever written is that scene from Eyes Wide Shut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzeog50TVM

this logic is totally incomprehensible to the male mind.

sometimes this matters when writing, sometimes not.

>>21847666
Yes, my current WIP has a well-written female protagonist. Not to brag, but she isn't a lesbian.

>>21849896
Men and women are as different as two things in the universe can possibly be, I mean that quite literally, gender is the basis of difference.

>>21851201
t. doesn't have close relationships with women nor really with men
there are way more differences between two individuals of any sex than between the generalised archetypes of a man and a woman. if you operate on the level of extremely large group stereotypes, you're a shit writer

>>21847732
>Women are totally superfluous. That's why I do important things like sit and look at a pond while my mom wipes my ass

>>21847666
>Have you ever written a female character into your stories?
No, I only write female objects.

>>21851319
You have no idea what difference really is because you're a metaphysicslet subhuman who can't separate the contingent and it's gradations from the universal. As such you fail to realise that you are exactly the same as everyone around you, which is probably better for your own sake. If you operate on the level of a nominalist particularity without being able to poetically abstract to universe ideals from it your writing isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

>>21849568
How big is his penis? That’s clearly a man

>>21851319
>there are exceptions to the rule!
>>21852411
>you’re ignoring the rules!

Such a pointless argument. This is your brain on polemics

I only have idealization of women by my male characters, I never represent women as I think they objectively are because I do not understand how they objectively are at all. What I do understand, is how they can look from the perspective of a man.

>>21847666
What in the world is that world salad in the OP?

>>21852741
Phylosophy students are taught to regurgitate all kind of meaningless babble so their professors can feel like they serve a purpose, so they come out like this, kind of autistic.

>>21852747
Mathematically speaking in a metaphorical sense, I agree with the sentiment albeit in a postmodernist fashion.

>>21851319
>>if you operate on the level of extremely large group stereotypes, you're a shit writer
Architypes/stereotypes are needed for any piece of media to be good.

>>21851319
In my experience men and women can have the same interests and similar personalities yet still differ in their actions and the application of their opinions either being closer to a "man's" or a "woman's" based on their sex. It might be subtle and hard to describe, but it's unmistakable if you know what you're looking for.

>>21849799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K_yKLNhWL0

>>21847666
thats one of those "this person does not exist" pics

>>21849917
Well there are different factors that are external and that make men and women less different than in past ages.
We live in a time where the life of a normal person is essentially sedentary, so the physical differences in strength and stamina are practically irrelevant now and only theoretical.
Even in intellectual disciplines, since technology has stopped advancing in huge leaps, the technical and rational aptitude of a male mind is not as strong in demand as it was.
So most ppl work gender neutral jobs and the most apparent differences between the sexes are now hidden.

The only things that keep them apart and still distinguishable in behaviour come from the unconscious mind. Namely male libido and female libido.
At this point by reading statistics and accounts it's not hard to understand they both got formed in the long period when humans were hunters-gatherers and what a female desires is essentially what a good hunter was back in the day. It's not hard to see why many women have rape fantasies and are aroused by killers and violent behaviour. It's not hard to see either why for males it all boils down to visual clues of fertility, ease of taming, and health.
A woman fantasizes about an athletic asshole coming out of a bush that drags her by the hair and rapes her multiple times, eventually deciding to keep her around, because is what has been ancestrally written on her brain by repetition of these events protracted for many millenniums.
You just map this primal blueprint to the contemporary scenario and you get woman behaviour, adding the fact that it fails to translate successfully and you end up with neurosis popping out like flowers in springtime.

>>21847666
Like half of my characters are women, it's weird how the population seems to evenly split that it happens naturally.

>>21847666
Looks like Reza Jorjani with faceapp gender swap.
Didn’t read btw.

>>21852082
This is brilliant if viewed as though through the eyes of a puppy

>>21848405
/r/menwritingwomen is a tired meme created by ugly seething women who don’t even act like women themselves. If you know a lot of women, you’ll notice that women, like men, differ broadly in personality among themselves. They don’t have a penis, but some act masculine, some have loud mouths, and some have deep voices. Others are small, soft, and sweet. Menwritingwomen is the former mad about men writing about the latter because the former has a place in a story it’s just not a sexy place.

>>21847666
yup and they are always treacherous evil and die
no women get a happy ending in my stories

One of my favorite characters I made is a female.

Little mysterious kid who claimed to sometimes talk to trees and other inanimate objects. It was never totally confirmed within the story exactly what was going on with the girl and the tree thing. Like I never made any seeming supernatural elements within the narrative that didn't have a totally reasonable mundane explanation, except for her, which I intentionally left ambiguous and unexplained. It was really fun to write her and I might reuse her or a character very similar to her in the future if I write a full story that is similar to the short story (that was basically a lame internet creepypasta "totally really happened bro" style story).
I hate that I lost the save of the story and that I never fully finished it, but all these years later I still remember her. Was the best part of the story imo. Definitely the best side character I have probably ever written so far. Which isn't saying much.
I ain't a real writer. I just get carried away with something that strikes my fancy and a shitpost ends up turning into a full short story without even intending to.
It's weird because mentally I have the default attitude that I hate writing and always have. Yet it's both amusing and satisfying to write short stories despite writing normally being hard and unfun.

>>21848325
Female protagonists are better suited for horror because they're always scared and neurotic about everything. Can't even walk outside at night alone even though you're more likely to be assaulted or killed if you are a man.

>>21847666
she cute

I just write a male character, give her a desire for penis, and make sure to spend a line or two on occasion describing her outfit and how it makes her feel.
No one's caught me yet.

>>21847666
Yeah. I only write occasionally and never show my writing to anyone, but it doesn't really feel any different from writing men.
Knowing women and spending the requisite amount of time getting drunk/high together and talking each other's ears off about your lives and joys and sorrows and genuinely trying to empathise and see the world from their perspective really makes writing them as easy/difficult as writing men.

>>21847666
What's up with this 'woman' thing? It's like in every story one appears and makes sure she roars in a husky voice, bashes her hulk hands on the floor and announces she's having her period, then she leaves again. WHY BOTHER

It ruins every war story.

>>21854932
I prefer the unpredictability of a male protag for horror because it's way less obvious if they are going to make it out at the end.

Worst is children protags where it's obvious early on that the writer doesn't have the balls to write anything bad happening to them. Read fairy tales with more balls that most horror stories that have child leads.