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Was Isaac Asimov right?

>> No.21837580

>>21837490
It’s just a pithy quote in favor of freedom of expression. He didn’t mean holocaust denial and the people crying about banned books now don’t mean child erotica or right wing agitprop. The burden of actually defending free speech begins with the speech you don’t personally like, such as when the 60s lefties defended NAMBLAs right to exist and the nazis right to publish, Hitchens defending David Irving and similar.
If you only advocate for the speech you wanted to hear you were never really fighting for the principle, just self interest.

>> No.21837610

>>21837580
>60s lefties defended NAMBLAs right to exist
>speech you don’t personally like
anon...

>> No.21837613 [DELETED] 

>>21837580
Holocaust denial is a rational conclusion. The Jews lie about everything. Why wouldn't they lie about something that gains them tons of power? Come on now. Don't act dumb.

>> No.21837789
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21837789

Kill all poltards

>> No.21837831

>I publicly expressed my view on this only once, and in delicate circumstances. It was in May 1977. I was invited to a round-table discussion whose participants included Elie Wiesel, who survived the Holocaust and hasn't spoken about anything else since. That day, he irritated me by claiming that you couldn't trust academics, or technicians, because they had helped make possible the Holocaust. What a sweeping generalization that is! And precisely the kind of remark that antisemites might make: "I don't trust Jews, because once, Jews crucified my Savior".

>I let the others argue for a moment while I brooded over my resentment; then, unable to contain myself any longer, I spoke up: "Mr. Wiesel, you're wrong; the fact that a group of people has suffered appalling persecution does not mean it is inherently good and innocent. All that the persecution proves is that this group was in a position of weakness. If the Jews were in a position of strength, who knows if they wouldn't become persecutors?"

>To which Wiesel replied, very angrily: "Give me one example of the Jews persecuting anyone!"

>Naturally, I was expecting this. "At the time of the Maccabees, in the second century BCE, John Hyrcanus of Judea conquered Edom and gave the Edomites the choice of conversion to Judaism, or death. Not being idiots, the Edomites converted, but afterwards they were still treated as inferiors because even though they had become Jews, they were still originally Edomites".

>Wiesel, even more upset, said: "There is no other example."

>> No.21837833

Banning anything has the opposite effect of the intention, immediately
see: any kind of prohibition

>> No.21837849

>>21837831
Not literature

>> No.21837864

>>21837490
Yep
It's like 'the rulers of this world aren't actually good people' 101
(Because it's those rulers that burn books of course)

>> No.21837878

>>21837833
Lots of women must be voting in the middle east then

>> No.21837881

>>21837878
>the exception is the rule
Didn't make the post to split hairs but if you want to be autistic

>> No.21837968

>>21837490
reddit moment

>> No.21838020
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21838020

>lowest estimate 4 million
HOLY BASED /POL/TARD SISTAHS WIKIPEDIA IS BASED??! HAHA YOU THOUGHT SIX MIILLION?? HOW ABOUT 4 MILLION?! JEWS BTFO'ed

>> No.21838028
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21838028

>>21837490
No.

>> No.21839148

>>21837789
why would you take this photo?

>> No.21839157

>>21837878
The men also don't vote there.

>> No.21839180

>>21837878
That's not the same as a banned book and you fucking know it.

>> No.21839192

>>21837490

ironically because white people are the real jews, the answer is probably yes, but not during world war 2

>> No.21839225 [DELETED] 

>>21839192
>white people are the real jews
shut up kike

>> No.21839538

>>21839225

>literally every depiction of moses is a bearded white guy
>"UM, EXCUSE ME, SIR, BUT THAT IS RACIST WHITE SUPREMACY. YOU MAYO COLONIZERS SHOULD GO BACK TO ATLANTIS. LAWH, I SHO' HATES WYBIEBO..."

>> No.21839685

>>21838028
Woah oh my god badly drawn cartoons of penis sucking? Thank GOD little Jimmy never reads those filthy books and sticks to his safe “pad”.

>> No.21839723

>>21838020
man if we just keep shitposting on all cylinders we'll be down to a snug five-digit figure by the end of this decade

>> No.21839807

>>21839685
Doesn’t need to be funded by taxpayers

>> No.21839851

>>21837831
Isreal is rightful Canaanite clay

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>>21837490

>> No.21839928

>>21837613
Philo of Alexandria related a gas chamber story--Jews aphyxiated with smoke and the bodies burned. They figured out the evidence-free genocide early!

>> No.21840268

>>21839928
interesting... Elaborate

>> No.21840280

>>21839928
The romans must've been smart enough not to use wooden doors

>> No.21840502

>>21839148
Might be the retarded Ukrainian division who took photos of their crime and sent it to Hitler. Hitler actually called them dumbasses for creating evidence

>> No.21840530

>>21840502
or its a photoshoot

>> No.21840740

banning deniers and revisionists only made them stronger. they should be allowed to publish and have their dumb ideals and flimsy evidence exposed for what they are

>> No.21841153

>>21840740
What's worse: Goys not believing the Holocaust or Jews not believing the Holocaust?

If Jews don't believe the Holocaust they no longer feel scared, persecuted, guilty, etc. The Jews NEED the holocaust in order to cope with existence and not go insane. It grounds them.

>> No.21842152

>>21841153
dumb nazi apologist go back to pol or better yet whatever pit you crawled out from