/lit/ - Literature

>>21836188
Examples please?
I'm re-reading the lord of the rings now and it's ignited my love of Tolkien.

>>21836188
Treebeard and Galadriel are peak poetic fantasy literature

Oh man this world is amazing, I can't wait to learn more about the lore and about the elves and Gandalf as Frodo and the hobbits adventu-
>HEY DOL MERRY DOL RING A DONG DILLO
>RING A DONG HOP ALONG FAL LAL THE WILLOW
>TOM BOM JOLLY TOM TOM BOMBADILLO
Well, ok that was a bit odd but necessary for the plot to advance, let's see what the next chapter has in store
>HO TOM BOMBADIL TOM BOMBADILLO BY WATER WOOD AND HILL BY THE REED AND WILLOW
Ok that's over with finally the story can resume as norm-
>OLD TOM BOMBADIL IS A MERRY FELLOW BRIGHT BLUE HIS JACKET IS
>AND HIS BOOTS ARE YELLOW

Would be good to post some examples.

>>21837227
Not him, but Treebeard is a perfect example of poetry incarnate in a character, as is everything involving Galadriel
Legolas and Gimli casually enter iambic pentameter almost to show that they are magical races not human

>>21837226
Bait, only movie casuals hate best boy

>>21837226
If you read the books tom is based and wholesome.
The films ruined him and made it feel he was entirely skippable. Shame.

>>21837211
>>21837227
Tom Bombadil and Goldberry. If you pay attention to what they say you quickly realise they're talking in some weird lyrical form, but it's entirely subsumed within the prose of the story. In actuality, it's Tolkien showing off by doing away with that silly podic metre and writing pure stressed rhythm, in the proper English old Anglo-Saxon style.

Now, my little fellows, | where be you a-going to,
puffing like a bellows? | What's the matter here then?
Do you know who I am? | I'm Tom Bombadil.
Tell me what's your trouble! | Tom's in a hurry now.
Don't you crush my lilies!

Here's my pretty lady! | Here's my Goldberry
clothed all in silver-green | with flowers in her girdle!
Is the table laden? | I see yellow cream and honeycomb,
and white bread, and butter; | milk, cheese, and green herbs
and ripe berries gathered. | Is that enough for us?
Is the supper ready?

It's masterfully hidden as some strange lilting dialogue but once you realise what he's doing you're blown away by what he's doing.

>>21837226
People who don't like Tom Bombadil is how I weed out the midwits

>>21837226
>Here's my low IQ opinion of Tom bombadil
Don't reproduce.

>>21837277
Amazing; I need to reread that chapter now. The dude is literally living poetry

>>21837277
Impressive.
Are there books available that deal with this style of prose/literary analysis of Tolkien's work?

>>21836188
There's a Wikipedia page about his prose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien%27s_prose_style

>>21837332
>Are there books available that deal with this style of prose/literary analysis of Tolkien's work?
bump for this

http://figures-of-speech.com/2017/07/bombadil.htm

Here's a good site explaining the whole thing if anyone's interested.

>>21837211
The Rohirrim do it and also use an almost entirely saxon wordhoard. I also get a sense of the nordic verse found in the outlaw sagas from time to time.

>>21837678
Mallorn is the journal of the Tolkien society. Id start there.

>everyone is pretending this wasn't immediately apparent
I don't belong here

>>21836188
Thanks for pointing this out anon. I am about to begin a LotR re-read so I will keep this in mind.

>>21836188
>Why does nobody talk about this more?
Because
1) he's inconsistent
2) a hundred years too late
3) trying to unshit the english language is like putting makeup on a pig

'Thus cwaeth Ælfwine Wídlást:
Fela bith on Westwegum werum uncúthra
wundra and wihta, wlitescéne land,
eardgeard elfa, and ésa bliss.
Lýt ǽnig wát hwylc his longath síe
thám the eftsíthes eldo getwǽfeth.'

low iq: tom bobadil sucked
mid iq: tom bombadil rocked
high iq: tom bombadil sucked

>>21840067
giga iq: HEY DOL MERRY DOL

>>21840084
Aside from even Tom there's a lot of Tolkien characters that are beautifully written.
Galadriel's lines are literally largely poetry, and its some of Tolkien's best

>>21838267
I noticed it before, but I am glad someone made a thread to share

>>21838204
Thank you for the website anon; it legit is a good explanation

Realistically, who can stop him?

>>21840540
Canonically only pic related if he got his rings.
Interestingly Sauron also sings. Why no Tolkien opera yet?

>>21840540
Only Eru Illuvatar probably. He might be more powerful than the Valar

>>21840560
He sounds like he is one of the Valar

>>21839159
>3) trying to unshit the english language is like putting makeup on a pig
Take that back

>>21840567
He's a deliberate mystery, we'll never know.

>>21840556
not an opera but I've been looking for texts to set for classical voice. Any Tolkien suggestions?

>>21840556
>Why no Tolkien opera yet?
There are already four.

>>21840540
stop him from what? eternally breeding his pretty lady? nobody

Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.
Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?

I love Tolkien's poetry. There's something so mournful about it I can't help but be affected.

>>21840067
low IQ post

>>21837277
he just flexed on all those retards saying he was not a great writer

>>21843947
he's not a great writer

>>21840067
true

>>21839159
FPBP

>>21843958
stop embarrassing yourself

>>21843991
I'm not the one pedestalizing a mediocre genre writer.

>>21843996
>mediocre genre writer
come on

>>21842302
Tolkien hated some of his best work weirdly enough

>>21842302
This would be mocked if it was posted in a writing or poetry thread. But since it's by a famous brand, it's then praised.

>>21843996
>pedestalizing
Imagine coming up with such a repulsive neologism and then having the balls to call literally anyone else mediocre, including someone actually mediocre. Never criticize anyone else's writing, ever again.

>>21842302
I love the Lay of Leithian a lot

>>21844131
Tolkien came up with repulsive mishmashes of language and mythology to the point of kitsch so I don't see the issue. You can try Reddit if you idolize this faggot, they worship him there. Here's your neologism btw (turns out is pedestaling): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedestal

>>21840067
low iq cope

>>21844292
Tom Bombadil is great, Idk why people hate him

>>21844966
>great
We're too generous with that word.

>>21837277
When I realized that Tom Bombadil was speaking in poetry, I was so shocked I actually laughed. I can’t believe people find these books dry. There’s so much nuance.

>>21845322
The confounding effects of limited cognitive faculties are evident in the struggle to comprehend the unwavering modesty exhibited by Tolkien. While it may seem commonplace at first glance, its true depth is insurmountable and profound, rendering it an enigma to those without the necessary mental acuity to fully appreciate its intricacies.

>>21837277
Tolkien is NOT the only writer to do this. Do you read any other authors?

>>21837226
>>HEY DOL MERRY DOL RING A DONG DILLO
>>RING A DONG HOP ALONG FAL LAL THE WILLOW
>>TOM BOM JOLLY TOM TOM BOMBADILLO
>>HO TOM BOMBADIL TOM BOMBADILLO BY WATER WOOD AND HILL BY THE REED AND WILLOW
>>OLD TOM BOMBADIL IS A MERRY FELLOW BRIGHT BLUE HIS JACKET IS
>>AND HIS BOOTS ARE YELLOW

>>21845430
Like who? I'll admit I'm no literature professor, but I can't recall anyone anyone who does what Tolkien did to any significant extent.

>>21845364
Put the thesaurus down faggot no one can understand you

Mythgard Lord of the rings podcast is a cool brief touch point for a lot of the lore

I really really like how they sing his song here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVIVJjuaHE