[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 75 KB, 1000x1481, 1666581318123397.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21776027 No.21776027 [Reply] [Original]

Give me some books about classical music, specially Mahler. I'm aware that Mahler wrote poetry --should I read it?

>> No.21776043

>>21776027
Doktor Faust by Thomas Mann
The Loser by Thomas Bernhard
The Piano Teacher by Elfriede Jelinek

>> No.21776046

>>21776043
Sorry these are novels, I misread your request

>> No.21776060

>>21776027


GUSTAV MAHLER'S MUSIC IS MODERNISTIC, NOT «CLASSICAL».

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «"CLASSICAL" MUSIC»; IT IS A SPURIOUS GENRE.

>> No.21776204
File: 180 KB, 1280x1280, 93A35D00-8997-4FD5-8872-49131FA495B2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21776204

What should a Scriabinchad like myself read? (Nietzsche is the obvious one—so let’s give him a miss for now)

>> No.21776216

>>21776027
Every whore around her wanted to fuck her.

>> No.21776335

>>21776216
Everyone but the queer who got rekt

>> No.21776344

>>21776335
That was satisfying. Stupid faggot

>> No.21776357

>>21776060
>GUSTAV MAHLER'S MUSIC IS MODERNISTIC
Actually, Mahler was late Romantic but proved influential on the subsequent modernist period
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «"CLASSICAL" MUSIC»
What period came between Baroque and Romantic?

>> No.21778128

>>21776357

>GUSTAV MAHLER'S MUSIC IS MODERNISTIC

>Actually, Mahler was late Romantic but proved influential on the subsequent modernist period

SO CALLED «POSTROMANTICISM» IS EARLY MODERNISM.


>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «"CLASSICAL" MUSIC»

>What period came between Baroque and Romantic?

THE ILLUSTRISTIC EPOCH.

>> No.21778142
File: 81 KB, 686x576, Spurdo Spagner.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21778142

>>21776027
No, read the guy Mahler (and pretty much every other late-romantic composer) ripped off.

>> No.21778145

>>21778128
> ILLUSTRISTIC
Thats now a word. You mean the enlightenment?

>> No.21778148

>>21778145


«THE ENLIGHTENMENT» WAS THE MOVEMENT THE CONSEQUENCE OF WHICH WAS THE HISTORICAL PERIOD OF THE ILLUSTRISTIC EPOCH, VULGARLY CALLED «THE ENLIGHTENMENT ERA».

>> No.21778176
File: 134 KB, 957x707, toy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21778176

>>21776060
this is why you're an incel

>> No.21778181

>>21778176
No normie I know has a gf like Adriana Lima in her prime.

>> No.21778186

>>21778176


?

>> No.21778199

>>21778186
it means you would like sex, but cannot get it.
He is mocking you my dear fellow.

>> No.21778205

>>21778186
your 'smart' ass, 'well, akshully...' personality is insufferable. despite your autism, mahler is firmly embedded in the classical music sphere

>> No.21778209

>>21778199
Is cumgenius even straight? Seems like an asexual fellow devoid of sex drive and only likes cite girls as a romantic ideal.

>> No.21778228
File: 27 KB, 376x288, 1664288965875431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21778228

>>21776027
Opera and Drama
The Music of the Future
On Conducting
Beethoven
The Destiny of Opera
On Poetry and Composition
On Opera Poetry and Composition in particular
On the Application of Music to the Drama

These were MASSIVE influences on Mahler and every other important composer and conductor of the generation following Wagner. As Strauss said, we owe everything we know about Beethoven to him, so this influence even extends as far as Mahler's reception of Beethoven.

>> No.21778247

>>21778199


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONVERSATION: IT IS A NON SEQVITVR.

>> No.21778288

>>21778199
>>21778205
But women like insufferable jerks

>> No.21778591

>>21776027
cello girl was a qt
also, read roger scrutons books on music

>> No.21779457

bump

>> No.21779498

>>21776027
only humans and maybe elephants enjoy classical music
the rest don't care

>> No.21780195
File: 222 KB, 302x475, 1655308691874.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21780195

I am reading this at the moment. Very in depth which is not unusual given Adorno's background, but it's also about the universal aspects of his music, like authenticity, so it's a good book for anyone interested nonetheless.

>> No.21780606
File: 44 KB, 666x1000, 61GtsTN3O4L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21780606

>>21776027
Read this.

>> No.21780622
File: 193 KB, 569x900, beloved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21780622

>> No.21780623

>>21776046
Novels are not books?

>> No.21780627

>>21776027
That image gives me such nausea.
It's such cheap kitsch that it hurts my brain.

>> No.21780635

>>21776204
Alright, Mr. Scriabin enthusiast. Rank the three periods: early (Opp. 1-29), middle (Opp. 30-54), and late (Opp. 55-74).

>> No.21780641
File: 264 KB, 474x377, b81.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21780641

>>21776027

O glaube, mein Herz, o glaube:
Es geht dir nichts verloren!

Dein ist, was du gesehnt!
Dein, was du geliebt, Was du gestritten!

O glaube:
Du wardst nicht umsonst geboren!
Hast nicht umsonst gelebt, gelitten!

Was entstanden ist, das muß vergehen!
Was vergangen, auferstehen!
Hör' auf zu beben!
Bereite dich zu leben!

O Schmerz! Du Alldurchdringer!
Dir bin ich entrungen!
O Tod! Du Allbezwinger!
Nun bist du bezwungen!
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen,
In heißem Liebesstreben,
Werd' ich entschweben
Zum Licht, zu dem kein Aug' gedrungen!
Sterben werd' ich, um zu leben!

Aufersteh'n, ja aufersteh'n wirst du,
Mein Herz, in einem Nu!
Was du geschlagen,
Zu Gott wird es dich tragen!

>> No.21780660

>>21778128
>late Romantic is the same as post-Romantic
Lol get a load of this guy

>> No.21780679

>>21776357
Mahler is, together with Richard Strauss and Hugo Wolf, the beginning of musical modernism in Europe. Monumental creations are characteristic, both in orchestral ensembles (Strauss requires almost 140 orchestral musicians to perform the opera Elektra) and in duration (Mahler's symphony can last more than an hour and a half). It is characterized by an artistic focus: the composers of modernism mainly write operas and symphonic poems, i.e. those genres characterized by a strong extra-musical idea, a program. In all cases of this music, we are dealing with emphasized "literary" music, which, regardless of genre or composition, brings a characteristic split between monumentality and a multitude of small details, which is another of the central paradoxes of modernism.

>> No.21781003

>>21780679


Z00MERS NOW FECALPOST BY COPYPASTING TEXT RENDERED VIA AN ONLINE CONVERSING AVTOMATON: Z00MER HOLOCAUST WHEN?

>> No.21781260

>>21776027
If you understand music theory, there's no lack of prose works to get into the weeds with.

>>21780606
This is a good primer.

>> No.21781534

>>21776027
This movie was so much better than EEAAO, how the fuck did the chink movie win so much? I thought it was hot trash when I watched a couple of months ago. Banshees was my favorite of the lot. Am I so out of touch?

>> No.21782269

>21781003
Not even worth giving you a (You), degen.

>> No.21782284

>>21782269


YOU JUST GAVE ME ONE, MORON.

I THANK YOU; I NEEDED THE BOOST.

>> No.21783331

bump

>> No.21783348

>>21776027
jannies aren't taking down a non-book image?
should reduce their wages