/lit/ - Literature

>>21772287
The GOAT of....

>>21772287
Who? Juden Peterstein? No thanks, I am 15

>>21772291
Philosophy, as in the search for wisdom/knowing how to live

benzos and raw beef

>>21772287
where are the marxists, jordan?

>>21772296
Not even top 50. If you mean modern self-help guru from the bestsellers list, then he's one of the most prominent ones, I agree.

>>21772338
>not even top 50
name them

>>21772350
Spinoza
Aristotle
Plato
Schopenahuer
Marx
Foucault
Deleuze
Kant
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Aquinas
David Hume
Kierkegaard
Lao-Tzu\
Descartes
Machiavelli
John Locke
Nietzsche
Confucius
Rousseau
Sartre
Socrates
Wittgenstein

>>21772397
Hegel
Locke
Paine
Epicurus
Pascal
Voltaire
Hume
Diogenes
Bertrand Russell
Gorgias
Hobbes
Adorno
Camus

>>21772397
A lot of those names are irrelevant and I'm certain you haven't read most of them
>mentions Plato as well as Socrates
and it's still not even 50. When it comes to describing how you should best live your life, no one on your list is better than JP.
>>21772328
fucking everywhere

>>21772409
>Hegel
Suck a dick, or something.

>>21772506
That’s a self help guru, not a philosopher.

Does anyone have a screencap or archive of his CCP gooner nightmare tweet?

>>21773311
take your benzos

>>21772287
He should learn to stay off twitter, or not be that angry. He's decent on his own podcast, on twitter he's just a stupid old boomer.

>>21772287

>trannies are le bad!
Great philosopher

>>21773815
what does JP have to do with mommy issues, aren't they both daddy issues?

>>21773815
Mommy issues is Russell Brand.

>>21773817
> trannies are le bad!
That’s just common sense.

>>21773818
He’s like a mother telling you to clean your room and do other household chores. Isn’t one of the “rules for life” to pet a cat or some shit? He’s a feminine figure.

>>21773840
>Order is Feminine
Have you never picked a book from the West OR East?

>>21773861
Housework is distinctively associated with women

>>21773861
Saying order is masculine or feminine is a bit silly, and is selectively interpreting symbolic material. Strictly speaking neither masculine symbols nor feminine symbols represent order, it's the synthesis of both which represents the sum total of order. The only thing that is reasonable to say, and is even still sometimes wrong by virtue of the principle of analogy, is that the masculine symbols are those of centrality or polarity whereas feminine are those of expansiveness and wholeness.

>>21773861
>Order is le masculine; Chaos is le feminine
Order is submission. Submission is feminine. Have you ever watched how boys behave compared to how girls behave? The little rascals are completely chaotic, their rooms tend to be messy. Girls are the opposite, they are orderly. I don’t buy Jordy’s comparison.

He even says in some video that males score lower in a trait called agreeableness than females do. Men are more likely to be rebels, for example. How is that not chaotic? Men are naturally more chaotic than women are.

>>21773329
?

>>21773891
>Order is submission

>>21774016
Yes. Do you think following the orders of Jordy Memerson’s book is masculine? Or the orders of any other man? You’re submitting yourself to a higher will.

You know youre dealing with a retard when they use superlatives, the word GOAT, x > all, ... the world is more nuanced than that and maybe you should try to understand it from several different perspectives at once.

>>21774110
Not even Americans can keep track of their 9001 abbreviations, just write whole sentences you dumb mutts.

>>21772287
By far the greatest mind of our early century.

>>21773891
>>21773872
The difference between men and women based on the big five are relatively small according to Jordan, he more importantly likes to think that "mercy" is the feminine motherly trait and "judgement" as the masculine fatherly trait.

>>21772397
>Marx
>Foucault
>Deleuze
>Aquinas
>Sartre
Retard post. I agree that peterstein is a nobody who grifts on people's misery, but you should remove those.

>>21772287
>>nobody can admit he's the GOAT
... because that would be such an obvious and insane lie as to immediately subject you to both ridicule and a Providential ontological degeneration across all perceptual fields of Creation. Your soul would start to shrink, your Gnosia would sublimate and your sheer proximity would like cause the ontogenesis of pure but very aggressive conceptoids.

>>21774249
If I had such a pretentious boor as this block head in my friend circle I would eject him faster than if it were predestined by the end of history and projected backwards.

>>21772296
>knowing how to live
If you aren't addicted to hard drugs you already know how to live better than he does.

>>21772287
He is a scambag, a fucking garbage and a waste of oxygen

>>21772287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maXXTXIgpu8

>Jordan Peterson is evil and stupid. He has a daughter and says, “We are here to suffer so learn to suffer like a man.” A potential paradise could be like a never ending DMT trip with the constant pleasure level of heroin. If you get bored then it’s not paradise. There don’t even have to be human bodies. His is just a severe lack of imagination. And there is no sense in which suffering or mediocrity create meaning. All the meaning you need would be packaged into the paradise experience. But I am not experiencing such meaning and perhaps never will. That’s why despite the abundant grace and mercy I think I am not subject to a fully benevolent God. Perhaps God is like Jordan Peterson and I therefore consider him my enemy.

>>21773891
>Order is submission. Submission is feminine.
But I am the one enforcing the order when I clean my room, genius.

>>21776481
You are following Mama Peterson’s orders.

>>21774026
Do you think soldiers are feminine?

>>21774218
copy pasted from a website btw

>>21772287
Never heard of him.

>>21772338
>not even 50
bro, don't even mention a number. he's not a philosopher. at all. like, literally that isn't his profession or area of expertise
if people are implying his retarded senseless babbling can be read as philosophy, it's not "not even top 50", it's not even top 60000000000. a random midterm paper by a philosophy undergraduate is more valuable than anything this clown has ever put out

>>21773815
This is completely wrong
Jordan = Daddy issues. He's the stern father figure giving people a sense of order.
Tate = Mommy issues. When you have mommy issues, you don't look for an authority figure. When you have daddy issues, you look for an authority figure. That's the mistake this image is making.

>>21774021
>>21773967
it can't be real.

>>21772287
>>21772296
his slutty drug addled daughter abandoned her husband and newborn to go fuck andrew tate.


Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Jay Dyer >>> Jordan Peterson

>>21776806
Peter Sloterdijk is more based, more redpilled, and more philosophically sophisticated than Jordan.
Peter Sloterdijk is more strongly against feminism and multiculturalism, whereas Jordan takes this wimpy lukewarm stance like "Well I'm not totally against it but I think it's going too far and it needs to slow down before the right gets too angry blah blah blah"

Doctor Peterstein!
Careful!!! Never ask him about Dostoevsky’s 200 years together.

>>21777270
>Dostoevsky’s 200 years together.
That was Solzhenitsyn but yes your point is correct.

>>21777274
Lmao, I’m retarded right now sorry.
I’m actually reading it too.
I guess it’s time to sleep

more like IQ of goat

>>21772287
his thesis on it actually being gay to get pussy really opened my eyes to how great he is

He's okay. A lot of what he said is perfectly legitimate and makes sense. He literally only pisses people off because he's a liberal, which means on one side the Marxists hate him, and on the other side, the nationalists hate him.
Shame he destroyed his brain.

>>21777117
Deleted now, but yes, it's real.

Fundamentally, one must understand that he is simply not a particularly intelligent individual.

>>21774021
She's definitely seen over a thousand cocks

>>21777398
He justifies Jews being in control of western society by claiming that they are superior to the host population and, therefor, best suited for the role of leadership.

>>21777433
Retweeting that image is the least of his issues.

>remembering your undergraduate Jordan Peterson phase

>>21777850
There is no shame in this. He makes a lot of good points. He's a very good con man.

>>21777850
No shame in agreeing with a well-read psychology professor from a respected university. He says so much shit about so many topics it's practically impossible for anyone to not find something to disagree with, but he's also right on lots of counts.

>>21777888
>he's also right on lots of counts
That is how the con game works. They don't step out of the gate blathering bullshit.

>>21773862
Even a dog cleans his surroundings before lying down to sleep. Getting your immediate surroundings (and your most pressing issues) in order should your priority. Nothing else matters if you haven't gotten your basics down.

>>21773891
>Order is submission.
Order is efficiency and strategy. The intelligent man would be in control of his thoughts, actions, surroundings and life, so that he has to expend the least amount of energy and effort and get the best result possible, rather than mucking around like a pleb.

Jordan is boring cuckservative.
Read Peter Sloterdijk instead!

Peter Sloterdijk is more nationalist and he makes fun of feminism and named the jews. Also he said that modern psychology is jewish psychology, contrasting it with classical Greek philosophy of the mind.

>>21777826
Jordan (supposedly) hates the woke agenda and yet he passionately defends the people behind it.
He is a phoney.

>>21777998

>>21772291
Raw beef and breaking down crying.

>>21777998
>Delusional rationalization/disorganized thinking:
There are facts about the world. For example, that media manipulates people, Jews work in media, and psychologists study the mind. However, what a delusional person does is take such facts and use them to confirm a specific narrative (this is known as being selectively coherent). The elements of the narrative aren't actually proven by the facts but the delusional person (or ideologue) confuses their truth with the truth of their narrative. For example: Peterson is a psychologist (fact), associates with Jews (fact), and works in media (fact); therefore he is a skilled manipulator and part of a conspiracy headed by Jews. (This is the delusional rationalization part). The facts don't prove the narrative yet if you look you'll notice they are what is carrying the weight of the argument being made by people who mentally adhere to the narrative--if you deny the narrative these ideologues will confuse this with denying the facts. (That's the disordered thinking part).

Basically, the dangerous thing about paranoid narratives is that they have the appearance of being logically consistent within themselves and noticing the sleight of hand that takes place between the facts and the narrative isn't always easy to do. However, it's quite easy to see why certain narratives are simply absurd (e.g. looking at the advanced teachings of a cult versus those they use to hook people in).

Peterson isn't the crescendo of a multi-millenia conspiracy headed by a cabal of Jews who want you to not have sex. You haven't figured it all out and you aren't interpreting 5D chess. What you are doing is building a selectively coherent narrative based on truisms and confusing that they necessarily connect to your version of reality. If you find yourselves doing this seek professional help.

>>21778105
>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life

>>21778105
In regard to the nonsense that Peterson is against online privacy:
>he isn't saying anonymity on the internet shouldn't exist
>he isn't even saying the option for anonymity should be taken away on the specific websites to which he's referring
>he is putting forward the idea for it to be debated in the public sphere
>he is correct when he says anonymous accounts incentivise trolling (e.g. memeflags)
>segregation isn't a perfect solution, that's why he is encouraging a discussion, but it is a better option than what is currently used (e.g. shadowbanning comments)
Remember: Peterson's critics (be they libtards, trannies, conspiracy schizos, etc.) are always disingenuous and will mischaracterize what he actually says while making baseless ad hominem attacks toward his character.

A common example: they will characterize severe withdrawal from a doctor prescribed medication as a character defining drug addiction and will conveniently ignore that immediately after he completed/published his second worldwide bestselling book, organized and completed a sold out international lecture tour, started an interview series viewed by millions, published multiple articles, etc. In short: you can't trust such people and you should research it for yourself.

>>21778105
>Peterson: it would be productive to involve men in the conversation about violence against women in a way that doesn't label masculinity as inherently negative
>Libtard: so you're saying in order to make men care about rape women have to be returned to the status of men's property
>Peterson: the rise of identitarianism is linked to reactionary politics that sublimate personal resentment into collectivistic extremism
>Chud: so you're saying white people don't have group interests and therefore shouldn't exist
>Peterson: transgender ideology specifically targets a group of people likely to be confused and open to mental pathologies via social contagion--we shouldn't give hormones to children let alone surgically mutilate minors
>Tranny: so you're literal nazi saying we're a disease and we should be exterminated like one
>Peterson: anonymity increases the likelihood of pathological behavior so perhaps one way to alleviate the negative repurcussions of its overall influence would be to segregate accounts on these specific widely used social media websites--it's definitely better than secret and selective control of the public narrative as it exists now
>/pol/tard: so you're saying you want everyone everwhere to be tied to whatever they say and do at all times...I'm a freedom fighter [goes to another thread to post about AOC's asshole while writing "nig*er" 50 times]
Basically, Peterson will touch a nerve by simply pointing out something that is blatantly ignored in the way an ideological group frames an issue. He exposes ideological blindspots in a simple and straightforward way; this leads to the fellow travellors of whichever idea is being discussed having a breakdown and exposing themselves. He's valuable as a media personality if even for that reason alone (inb4 CONTROLLED OPPOSITION DA JEEWZ THO!

>>21778105
>he's a drug addict
>his daughter is a slut
>messyoffice.jpeg
>you don't have a dad
>wash your penis
>you're Jordan/Mikhala
>he cried in public
>he associates with Jews
>controlled opposition
Ad homs that distract from his arguments are all they have. The sad thing is that they're the same ones over and over and have been for years. The fun thing is that it's easy to point to where his credability comes from and the positive things he's been doing for years and make these people seethe.

>>21778105
They say you can judge someone by the company they keep (inb4 "JEWS THO!") but with Peterson you may judge him by the company he does not keep: ideological libtards, reactionary racists, seething trannies, and vapid pseuds. These barely human toxins have had to recycle the same 5 ad homs, pathetically doing so for years now, because they're incapable of actually understanding what he has to say--they're too far gone into ideological possession (and retardation) to even recognize when they're being disingenuous.

So please (you queer amalgamation of libtard, chud, and tranny) just keep doing what you're doing. You can be assured that Peterson keep doing what he's doing.

>>21778115
His daughter abandoned her husband to get railed by a criminal mulatto. That’s not an ad hominem. That’s not even suppose to address any argument. It’s just the truth.

Mikhaila Peterson was hooking up with demon-possesed, samurai sword wielding russian guy, called Andrey Korikov. Since Mikhaila stopped taking pill and kept having sex....she got knocked up after few months of dating. These two married when Mikhaila was 9 month pregnant due to intense pressure from her family. In her podcast, she declared she never wanted any of this to happen, but at the time felt she has no other choice (she couldn't bring herself to abort it, and being a single mother was unacceptable in Jordan Peterson's household). Funny thing, Andrey russian family hated her with passion and was strongly oppose them getting married.

Once married, couple moved to a penthause in downtown Toronto that Jordan has purchased for Mikhaila. During this time Mikhaila was managing Jordan's calendar and was his only point of contact with external world, as she said it "no-one could reach my father without passing through me". She declared herself to be a CEO of his company and also pretended to be him when running his twitter, instagram and other social media channels while he was drifting away from reality into a benzo haze.

After few months of marriage, Mikhaila kicked her husband out of the house. Since Andrey is also on Jordan's payroll, he would visit his ex wife evey day and do the work for her, while also begging to take him back. Meanwhile Mikhaila declared on social media that she and her husband has negotiated separation. While flooding the instagram feed with series of selfies in her underwear, with crawling toddler in the background. It seems that it's the instagram where she met Andrew Tate, who helped her to prepare and sell her subscription program called "Lion's Lair" - for only 600 dollars per year you could get access to Mikhaila and receive daily advises on how to eat nothing but beef, what a treat. Mikhaila was clearly impressed by him, becasue she left her baby and ex husband in order to hook up with Tate in Romania. She was already planning on moving to Romania and shared those plans via her social media. Apperently it didnt work out between them, because she came back to Canada, declaring that she and Tate are not a couple but he is a good man.

>>21778134
After full year of simping, Mikhaila's separated husband, Andrey, decided to give her what she wanted. He agreed to find a hospital in Moscow that will put Jordan Peterson in medically induced coma. At this point Mikhaila had made few hundred calls trying to arrange coma-on-demand for her dad but was told off by all medical facilities in the West. Her husband was usefull again so Mikhaila took him back, packed her kid and barely conscious father and headed to Russia. For a year and half, four of them was traveling between Russia, Florida and Serbia. It's in Serbia where Mikhaila went partyng laughing off the covid scare, contracted covid, passed it to her dad which almost killed him, and then blamed it on her toddler ("my child must have caught the covid on the playground and passed it to the rest of the family").

After traveling, partying and experimenting with drugs (Mikhaila is advertising thai drug called Kratom and fed her father with it while he was recovering) the family moved back to Canada. Mikhaila left her brain-damaged and still taking benzos dad with her mother, Tammy, to be his care giver for life. She herself moved back to her penthouse with husband and child and started her career of a podcaster. It seems she was also pregant with her second child and gave birth this summer, but unlike with the first born, she is hiding the toddler from her social media and pretending it doesnt exist.

Lockdown was imposed on Canada due to another wave of covid. Staying locked in appartment with her husband and children made Mikhaila suffer greatly, so she packed them up and went partying again, first to Saudi Arabia, then Croatia and finally to Russia. In Moscow she has caught covid again (this time Delta variant). She went back to Canada, not sure whether she has passed it again to her dad or not.

>>21778136
While still marrried to husband number 1, Mikhaila met husband number 2 and got engaged after one week of knowing him. It took her few months to get a divorce and plan for bombastic, instagram friendly wedding. Jordan Fuller is her labrador looking Christian Husband™ nr 2, with affinity to Petersons payroll and career opportunities and wandering eye for his beefy hunky gym bros. Since giving TED talk Mikhaila believes her career is finally taking off and she can become proper influencer. She is trying to monetize it by seeling hungover healing pills. She is also finishing writing her autobiography. Her dad is still struggling with his addiction to bezno/ twitter/ ragebait. He has been diagnosed with sschizophrenia by few different psychiatrists, but believes that denying the illness will make the symptoms go away. All of Petersons family is working on launching Peterson Academy which is going to teach you how to live a good life in accordance to christian, family values. What do you think will be the next twist of this crazy saga?

>>21777433
Why does retweeting (or whatever, I've never used twitter) that make him dumb?

>>21778146
>No.21773967
Retweeting something that is fake heavily implies a lack of understanding of the subject matter.

>>21772296
lmao

>>21772409
>no Husserl
Shamefur dispray.

>>21777826
He's not strictly wrong. In a Darwinist sense, they seem to have won. Course, the natural response is for people to actually start trying to compete with the Jews, having recognised them as adversaries.
Y'know, lobster hierarchies n shit. A hierarchy doesn't get to just stand and never get challenged. That's not how it goes.

Go on his twitter, post Juden Peterstein and watch him have a meltdown in real time.

>>21772287

>>21774218
Ignore him but keep Aquinas.

>>21772287
no he isn't

>>21772287
Yes he's the GOAT shabbos goy. Israel is pround and approves his messages.

>>21778499
he makes same mistake as Nietzche
inconsistent thought
he is a shill
also a feminist
read Peter Sloterdijk instead

>>21778583
based

>>21778139
>in accordance to christian, family values
Peterson is gnostic and teaches Talmudic monist doctrines. He is not Christian.

>>21778112
>chud
>/pol/tard
thank you for letting us know that you don't need to be taken seriously, tranny freak

Reminder that Jordan Peterson is a vaxxcuck and all his talk about "individual freedom" was for nothing.

>>21775916
>worries about pretentious boors
>doesnt realize the simple use of the term makes you one.
Kek.

>>21773967
>>21774021

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>21774249
what if I'm 32 and have no friends?

>>21779086
>Jordan Peterson is a vaxxcuck
I disregarded him the moment I heard him professing that I should welcome my jewish masters, so I missed this. Anyone that went full ''you must comply'' with the covid nonsense really played a bad hand. There was no reasonable middle ground on that issue. A lot of those tards were talking about us being so irresponsible that we needed to be rounded up and sent to deathcamps.

>>21779086
I’m vaxxed. Never got the chinese virus. Overall it was a good choice.

>>21779737
Drawing the conclusion that the reason that you never got the virus because you got jabbed is reductive. Even big pharma now admits that the jab does not prevent infection or transmission, just that it perhaps might lessen symptomology. Maybe it was triple masking alone in your car that saved you.

>>21772338
>Not even top 50
Not any number. He straight up needed to be corrected on basic introductory concepts whenever he's talked with actual philosophers on multiple occasions.

>>21772287
surrogate father figure

>>21774218
Imagine being this retarded and insecure. True sign of an idiot is when they can't even entertain an idea without it taking over.

>>21777850
That's pretty embarrassing. I saw right through him when I was an undergraduate. Though it's not surprising. I met an awful lot of shockingly stupid people in university. It's really astounding how far rote memorization can get a lot of people in terms of modern academia.

>>21772287
juden peterstein

>>21779086
>>21779693
>>21779737
Untrue. Now ask yourselves: if Peterson is such an obvious bad actor, why do his critics need to mischaracterize and distort what he actually says? Hmmm...just maybe the critics are the bad actors.

>>21772287
Who is he?

>>21778130
>Source: There's a couple pictures of them together
Oh wow that totally means they had sex, incel.

>>21780060
He got the vaccine desu anon. He said later that he regretted it but the fact remains that he is vaxxed.
Don't deny the facts.

>>21780060
>why do his critics need to mischaracterize and distort what he actually says?
What did I mischaracterize and/or distort?

>>21776806
This. Is Peterson just some sort of combo of postjungian and reguegatated stoic thought?

We don't have to idealize literally every right wing thinker. He will become forgotten in another 30 or 40 years

>>21780199
>Jordan peterson
>"right wing"

>>21780202
He defined himself as a classic liberal. That’s right wing un today’s world.

>>21780108
>Reminder that Jordan Peterson is a vaxxcuck and all his talk about "individual freedom" was for nothing.
>>21780182
>I disregarded him the moment I heard him professing that I should welcome my jewish masters, so I missed this. Anyone that went full ''you must comply'' with the covid nonsense really played a bad hand.
The characterization is toward championing policy related to the vaccine when he was steadfastly against mandatory vaccination and continously spoke out against vaccine passports. Now you've backtracked to the idea of him merely getting the vaccine. The dishonesty is pretty blatant.

>>21780221
If you got vaccine you are vaxxcuck
simple as!!!

>>21780235
If you mischaracterize something you're either a liar or a retard. Simple as.

>>21780254
I did no such thing
dumb fag

>>21780269
Retard confirmed.

>>21780278
go get your next booster
tranny freak

>>21780282
>REEEEEEE
Peterson openly hates trannies. Retard confirmed once again.

>>21780293
Peter Sloterdijk is better

>>21780298
>witness his ongoing interest in the ideas of Osho, of whom he became a disciple in the late seventies
That's a bit of a red flag but I'm still willing to check him out. Give a suggestion.

>>21772287
Reminder that Peterson wrote a collection of absolutely dogshit poetry inspired by real life cases of child trauma. If this isn’t enough to convince you that he’s a hack, then nothing will.

>>21780332
I haven't read his poetry but I remember that he made a rock song and put it on his youtube channel and it was horrible desu. It sounded like a cross between Nickelback and a very watered down Pink Floyd or something.

>>21780364
here is the song if any anons want to hear it desu
But I must warn you, I wasn't joking when I said that it is horrible
https://youtu.be/P1po9pNs8RU

>>21772296
>tfw too unwise to slip into coms

>>21780221
I did not backtrack. You are combining arguments from multiple anonymous posters. What an absolute petersonian critique.

>>21780437
You are busting my balls, man. My sound card is blown and I am dying to hear this.

>>21780437

>>21780437
holy fuck that guitar solo is proper cringe, is that him playing?

>>21779737
No refunds.

>>21780437
this is so fucking gay

>>21780510
The whole song feels gross desu. It makes you feel like you need to wash your ears out with better music.

>>21780207
>He defined himself as a classic liberal.
Conservatives tend to do do this for some reason. It's okay guys, you can be a liberal conservatives. No need to larp as Adam Smith.

>>21772350
>not even top 50
Nice, subtle bait. Triggered tons of people. I commend you kek.

>>21772287
Reminder that Jordan Peterson will be remembered as a great philosopher 100 years from now.

>>21780638
and musician

>>21780619
>Adam Smith
Retard.

>>21780529
The anti-vaxx panic is clear proof that the New Right is just edgy Alex Jones.

>>21780647
How am I retard, asswipe?

>>21780667
>[divisive social policy is primarily responsible for driving people who considered themselves liberal into the conservative camp]
>DURRRRR LIBERAL MEANS FOLLOWING AN 18TH CENTURY ECONOMIST
Because you're a retard.

>>21780658
you're gay desu

>>21780638
Jay Dyer pwned him and Sam Harris at the same time!
Jay's opinion is that Jordan is better at philosophy than Sam, but still not a good philosopher by any means.
https://www.youtube.com/live/PjQh8ij4R4o?feature=share

>>21780658
Not an argument.

>>21780768
Jay Dyer is redpilled on the vaxx >>21780739
and also unlike Jordan, Jay talks about who was behind Marxist Judeo-Bolshevism

>>21780658
>force people to take medical injections
>not only this, but make them sign away liability before they do so
>associate those that have a problem with the above with the lowest common denominator conspiracy theories available
I have a problem with you forcing people to take repeated medical injections (of which you falsified the effectiveness) for a mild disease (of which you inflated the deadliness and danger) while making them sign away any legal standing (which is an obvious example of coercion under duress).
>YOU'RE A WHITE SUPREMACIST DOMESTIC TERRORIST!
COVID demonstrated the mainstream political left is authoritarian. When the masks went on the mask slipped.

>>21780798
>that picture
what an absolute faggot
why are leafs such faggot commies

>>21780807
>Vancouver
That's Canada's San Francisco.

>>21772287
>another hylic worshiper
You guys don't get sick of worshiping hylics do you?

>>21780695
You are the clueless one here. Classical liberalism does refer to laissez faire economics. There is already a name for Peterson's ideology, liberal conservatism; that he fits the label is evident from his conservative social views. For example, he thinks that women might be better protected if the law was changed so that a man is punished for having consensual sex with a woman if the men in their family are distressed by it (looking forward to your explanation of how Christian paternalism is liberal). He also thinks that pornography is evil, that morality comes from religious myths. He is also pretty anti-trans in general, which is opposed to bodily autonomy.

>>21780828
>his conservative social views
You have to be a far left tranny to think that Peterson's social views are particularly conservative.
He literally supprts feminism, just not the current wave. He said he supports the first or second wave or whatever and said womens' rights and womens' suffrage were good.
He just thinks present day feminism is going too far.

>>21780658
I don't need to panic. I didn't get jabbed. I'll leave all the panicking to you.

>>21780873
Reminder that Prohibition was a seminal feminist issue and that it was their first major accomplishment after achieving suffrage. There are no real waves - just a constant onslaught of dogshit in slightly varying flavors. They were on this track from day one.

>>21780875
Panic for what? I’m doing extraordinarily well.

>>21780828
>>21780828
>Classical liberalism does refer to laissez faire economics.
No shit. That's why I made fun of you for projecting the label. I would have called you a pseud but you're remark was too stupid for that label. Hence: you're a retard.

>>21780909
>inb4 "REEEEE YOU MADE A TYPO"

>>21780798
I was talking about the view that the vaccine is a death injection orchestrated by the Elites with the explicit purpose of eliminating civilians. I don't see you taking a stance as to whether this is insane or not.
The question about mandates (soft or hard) is more complex, but unless you oppose all vaccine mandates (many of which existed before covid) you cannot argue against the covid mandate on general grounds of anti-authoritarianism. It would have to be on the merits of the specific vaccine. I think the specific case for soft mandatory vaccinations for doctors in hospitals is pretty strong. The case against a general mandate is significantly weaker, although still arguable.

>>21772397
This is completely off topic but why did you put Plato near the top and Socrates much lower? Are you one of the “Socrates was Plato’s mouthpiece” people?

>>21780828
>He is also pretty anti-trans in general, which is opposed to bodily autonomy.
>>21780873
>You have to be a far left tranny to think that Peterson's social views are particularly conservative.
Isn't it obvious, anon? He conflates being against prescribing children experimental drugs intended to disrupt their biological development and speaking out against the surgical mutilation of minors with standing opposed to bodily autonomy. He also couldn't resist going into a minor sperg about Christianity, kek.

>>21780915
>I was talking about the view that the vaccine is a death injection orchestrated by the Elites
See:
>>21780798
>>associate those that have a problem with the above with the lowest common denominator conspiracy theories available
You're not media savvy.

>>21780873
>He literally supports feminism!!!1
Yes, all liberal conservatives support women's suffrage. Now are you going to address any of the points I made or not.

how anyone ever took this ridiculous clown seriously is honestly beyond me

>>21778134
> for only 600 dollars per year you could get access to Mikhaila and receive daily advises on how to eat nothing but beef, what a treat
lmao

>>21780909

>>21780944
NTA but I now feel comfortable upgrading your label from stupid retard to retarded pseud.

>>21780909
How am I "projecting the label"? I don't know what the fuck is that even supposed to mean.
Also, are you conceding the point about Peterson being a Conservative or not? Leave the damn goalposts where they are.

Peterson would have been considered a liberal leftist any time before 2014. It just shows how extreme far left the mainstream view has become that Peterson is now seen as conservative.

>>21780931
Hold on there criminal scum. Since I am arguing with about five of you fucks at once, I think my good will merits not disingenuously leaving out important parts of my posts.
And stop saying kek every second post. Your gimmick is getting tired.

>>21780974
It's true, liberal conservatives support women's suffrage and first wave feminism. I recommend googling what these terms mean before attempting more dumb replies.

>>21781022
Then they are not conservative.
Jordan is not conservative.
End of.

>>21780917
Completely unintentional

>>21781033
They are liberal conservatives, a very well known political ideology with a long history that your thick skull seems unable to grasp for some reason.

>>21772409
>Plato

>>21781051
>They are liberal conservatives, a very well known political ideology
it's for fags

>>21781072
>Diogenes

>>21772296
you can't actually believe this, i'll grant you that he's a good reporter though

>>21780917
probably just the order that they came to mind spontaneously

>>21773311
Hegel was was one of the greatest thinkers in all of history

>>21780998
He really wouldn't have. When I was at UofT in the early 10s, he was considered a somewhat problematic conservative who ran interesting courses, like any prof you'd just take what you can get from him but shouldn't have believed every single word the guy said. The sort of dogmatic following he's built up is fucking wild to see. But yeah no way was he considered a liberal leftist back then, he was angry about the Marxists then too.

>>21778316
He's 60 and went into a benzo coma, I don't think he's seen a lot of fetish porn.

>>21780896
You panicked enough to get some funky experimental drug injected into you. A drug that many authorities insisted had been fully tested but that had not been - that could not possibly have been fully tested because long term trials cannot be done on short terms. That is legit clownworld theater. We cruised. We were nowhere close to making decisions like that. I can imagine the relief that you felt when you got inoculated, relying on the authorities to provide you with protection from an ominous disease. Look at how many personal opinions Fauci has had on face masks. No mask. One mask. Two masks. One mask again. He's being retarded on purpose. The institutions are broken. Appeal to authority is an absurdity in the modern era. If you are a genuine acolyte of Peterson, then please keep a critical eye on what he is feeding you. He is a charlatan institutionalist. .

greatest of all tearshedders

>>21772287
Look, he's not the GOAT (lmao) but I'm glad he exists and releases stuff just to counter balance all the progressive garbage of nowadays. He also needs to stop dropping self-improvement garbage and actually try to understand Marxism.

>>21781008
kek

>>21780986
>How am I "projecting the label"? I don't know what the fuck is that even supposed to mean.
Retard.
>>21781008
>Hold on there criminal scum. Since I am arguing with about five of you fucks at once, I think my good will merits not disingenuously leaving out important parts of my posts.
>And stop saying kek every second post. Your gimmick is getting tired.
Pseud.
>>21781022
>muh labels
Back to retard.

>>21781051
Not him, but a lot of people just consider that fraudulency. Like John McCain being a ''maverick''. They don't give it the credence that you do. It's just a different perspective.

>>21776493
It is not the same when they say "take out the trash" to "you should exercise daily, that could help you in..."

>>21773815
Neither of these people were public figures when I was a teenager, try again anon.

>>21777963
>>21777970
based sloterdijk poster

>>21781499
Based
Peter Sloterdijk mogs him both in philosophy and in redpilledness

>>21781438
It's not just a matter of perspective. 4chan is so politically fringe that many here don't understand what conservatism actually is in the real world outside their online bubble of 1000 people.

>>21772287
hes a miserable shit.
i've never seen anyone as genuinely happy as when they are being their most base, crass, vile self in pursuit of hedonistic excess. There is a smile on every porn stars face a mile wide that will follow uptight pricks like this to the grave.

>>21778583
>114.88 mean iq
were they trolling?

>>21781427
What exactly is the point of this reply? You are quoting random passages from three separate posts I made while repeating the same insult in each paragraph. It reads like an AI trying to mimick human speech patterns. I'm surprised you have enough brainpower to complete the captcha.

>>21781643
What exactly is the point of this reply?
To tell you you're retarded.
>You are quoting random passages from three separate posts I made
You replied to me 3 times.
>while repeating the same insult in each paragraph.
You're a little slow.
>I'm surprised you have enough brainpower to complete the captcha.
I'm not surprised you think cutting your dick off makes you turn into a woman. Because you're retarded.

You're just a fatherless zoomer.

>>21780437
>YOU
>SHOULD BE WAAAAAKIIIIIING
>a

>>21780998
lmao no in the 90s he would have been ignored because he's insane

>>21772287
i dont need a crack head to tell me to wash my penis.

>>21779153
Then you reify the voices in your head and give them personnalities. My Ur-Ego is my best friend, he's such a Chad, but he can also have really deep philosophical conversations after a few blunts.

>>21772296
One day you’ll realize how cringe this thread was.

>>21773815
Backwards

>>21773815
Tate hates books so Top G baby.

>>21772287
someone explain to me how he does better than Marie Kondo

>>21772291
sheep

>>21785305
He literally doesn't. MK is genuinely better at bringing happiness into your life and getting your shit organized.

>>21778139
>>21778136
>>21778134
based qrd poster

>>21779083
why are /pol/cucks so easily triggered?

>>21785487
Look, man, being called a chud is a compliment, but it still reveals the sentiment of the individual trying to use it as an insult. It's not triggering, just revealing.

>>21777850
>>21779852
Yeah, my Peterson phase happened between 8th and 10th grade.

>>21772287
>>21772291
>>21772296
QRD on why people consider Jordan Peterson to be a pseudo-intellectual? I only have a surface level understanding of his works because I have been focusing my time towards other thinkers.

>>21786166
>QRD on why people consider Jordan Peterson to be a pseudo-intellectual?
Because he presents himself as an open class philosopher, yet he has huge gaps in the base of subject matter and he promotes Jews as the master race without fairly judging the veracity of the evidence supporting his position. Granted, The Communist Manifesto is ripe for abuse, he had not, last I had heard, even read Capital. His big claim to fame is critique of Marxism, yet he has not read Marx - outside of The Manifesto - or Hegel.

>>21786166
Critiquing Marx without having ever read Marx means his opinion is about as worth listening to as your angry uncle when he's over for dinner.
A random fourth year philosophy undergraduate student would unironically be better read than Peterson in many of the subjects he tackles.
Watch a video where he talks to one of his peers that he respects (like John Vervaeke) where he isn't on the defensive. When he's actually humble and open to saying he isn't familiar with so-and-so's work, you realize how many massive gaps the guy has, like admitting he hasn't really read Deleuze. Which is fine for you and me - but this is the guy who is so certain that postmodernism neo-marxism is evil. He hasn't read any postmodernists or marxists!

>>21786166
Because he is. His specific field is the most open to bullshitting your way into an academic position there is. His writings are literal schizo dreamscape interpretations and pseudo genealogy of cultural memes. Academically he is renown for having worked on a very developped personality test, that's about it. His public outrage against the Canadian pronoun bill was a complete misunderstanding of the law (note that he never used his public spotlight to denounce the tranny epidemic on a media that wouldnt be receptive to the critique), his advices on how to be a good and responsible man in modern times fall flat given that he was a terrible father who got his daughter hooked on antidepressant and paraded her on national TV as a teen, and then watched her turn into a materialistic whore who grifts on his name.

>>21772287
please stop making these threads and anon, please stop replying. At least sage.

>>21786873
Oh, wow, man. Did we slide something of value off of the catalog? What was it?

>>21786166
Jung
Atrocious scholarship to the point of utter disrespect
Grifter (gotta get dat self-help money)
Science denier

Basically he was butthurt due to his retarded book being ignored until he got a whiff of that internet fame with the whole pronoun business in Canada, a situation on which he took the gangsta outlaw stance ("i will go on a hunger strike after they put me in prision). So he kept on chooglin. Surprise: he's given up on academia. This guy was never interested in contributing to the scientific community, he just needs to senselessly indulge in witchcraft language by any means necessary. When academia proved to not suit his wishes (it took him long enough though) he turned to selfhelp. Now he works for that goblin Shapiro, how about that.

lmao

>>21787983
You added shit to the catalog, surely there's a better use of everyone's time?

>>21788999
>You added shit to the catalog
Digits aside, no, I did not.
>surely there's a better use of everyone's time?
I consider exposing of charlatans to be a worthwhile endeavor. Seriously though, look at the catalog and tell me that this thread is any worse than the bottom twenty percent of the catalog. You do not have to contribute to this thread if you do not want to do so , and you are free to be the change that you want to se in the world.

>>21788995
To think that people want to give him plausible deniability on the fetish porn issue. The absolute state.

>>21785338
a good post, thank you and congratulations

>>21789562
lobsters

>>21773967
>>21774021
lmao

Consider that Peterson may have intentionally posted the coomer semen harvesting fetish images on purpose in order to stir controversy for the purpose of grasping at relevancy. I wouldn't put it past a charlatan like him. Maybe it really was an accident. I cannot decide which is worse.