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"Never believe what another tells you. Instead, use their belief to form your own. Whether your belief agrees with or refutes it matters not."
-James Joyce

My favorite Joyce quote. Dare I say, my favorite quote from any author.

What is yours?

>> No.2175329

When it comes to Joyce, if I say "you don't want to know", surely you'll be able to guess what it is that i allude to?

At any rate, I'm not joking when I say that the infamous letters truly are my favorite. They're funny, for sure, but I absolutely love how they are written. My favorite portion of them is this:

"My love for you allows me to pray to the spirit of eternal beauty and tenderness mirrored in your eyes or fling you down under me on that softy belly of yours and fuck you up behind, like a hog riding a sow, glorying in the very stink and sweat that rises from your arse, glorying in the open shape of your upturned dress and white girlish drawers and in the confusion of your flushed cheeks and tangled hair. It allows me to burst into tears of pity and love at some slight word, to tremble with love for you at the sounding of some chord or cadence of music or to lie heads and tails with you feeling your fingers fondling and tickling my ballocks or stuck up in me behind and your hot lips sucking off my cock while my head is wedged in between your fat thighs, my hands clutching the round cushions of your bum and my tongue licking ravenously up your rank red cunt."

I have literally schlicked to this paragraph. It's so fucking sexy, and I don't mean the subject matter. Had he been writing about licking a turkey sandwich I would still be turned on by this. Nigga got flow

>> No.2175353

>>2175329

wanna clutch that bum

>> No.2175367

>>2175329
Haha. Joyce was great.

There will never be another like him.

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>>2175367
What about David Foster Wallace?

>> No.2175393

Marry and you will regret it. Do not marry, and you will also regret it. Marry or do not marry, you will regret it either way. Whether you marry or you do not marry, you will regret it either way. Laugh at the stupidities of the world, and you will regret it; weep over them, and you will also regret it. Laugh at the stupidities of the world or weep over them, you will regret it either way. Whether you laugh at the stupidities of the world or you weep over them, you will regret it either way. Trust a girl, and you will regret it. Do not trust her, and you will also regret it. Trust a girl or do not trust her, you will regret it either way. Whether you trust a girl or do not trust her, you will regret it either way. Hang yourself, and you will regret it. Do not hang yourself, and you will also regret it. Hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret it either way. Whether you hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret it either way

>> No.2175397

>>2175393
okay.jpeg

>> No.2175404

>>2175392
it's crazy how influential dfw's prose style was on a certain part of the internet, especially wrt the use of wrt and similar acronyms

>> No.2175409

>>2175404
pictures of sad children
Achewood

two fine webcomics indebted to that sincerity, upper-middle class white academic style

>> No.2175412

>>2175409
yeah achewood is like my favorite thing ever (altho i'd argue it's not that indebted to dfw, certainly not as much as pfsc is. onstad was much more doing his own thing). um but i was more referring to some communities and stuff (like a bunch of the fyad-derivatives on sa) that tend to fall into similar linguistic 'tics'.

>> No.2175415

>>2175404
yeah sometimes the awl can just be like a dfw fanfic archive

>> No.2175417

>>2175392
Are you trolling?

DFW is hamfisted, try-hard garbage. Joyce speaks in a soothing and rhythmic emotional kind of intelligence. The two are nothing alike.

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>>2175412
that whole Achewood arc with crazy ass serial killer sociopath type who wanders around town with an inner monologue? Not directly indebted to a similar episode in Infinite Jest?

the characters of depraved upperclass Ray and depressed Roastbeef (perpetually cycling in and out of self-help), and their bromantic relationship? Not directly indebted to DFW's look at addiction and depression and self-help groups, as well as his fascination with the upper class and their leisurely activities?

The sincerity and naive goodness of Phillipe? Not baby DFW?

>> No.2175428

>>2175417
>DFW is hamfisted, try-hard garbage.
you've clearly never read dfw and have no idea what any of the words in that sentence mean. including is

>> No.2175430

>>2175421
fuck, i really like Achewood

does this mean I have to read DFW now?

>> No.2175433

>>2175430
Just fucking read Infinite Jest already. I don't know what you're waiting for. That it polarizes readers so violently should tell you it's worthwhile.

>> No.2175435

>>2175428
Wrong and wronger.

>> No.2175439

>>2175421
i mean i did say that it was indebted to it, just that he's also doing a lot of other shit too. especially with basically all the other characters. to some extent also i think the formal differences (of novel vs comic strip) play a pretty big role her or sthing.

>>2175430
it doesn't mean you have to, they tell stories w similar themes in very, very different ways

it's probably worth giving it a shot though.

>> No.2175482

>>2175433
>Just fucking read Infinite Jest already. I don't know what you're waiting for. That it polarizes readers so violently should tell you it's worthwhile.
yeah just like tao lin

>> No.2175487

>>2175482
Said Macaulay Culkin in Gmail chat.

>> No.2175510

>"Never believe what another tells you. Instead, use their belief to form your own. Whether your belief agrees with or refutes it matters not."
-James Joyce

I could not find one website in agreement with the speaker of said quote. Can you cite your sources?

>> No.2175611

>>2175482
But nobody likes Tao Lin. Everyone just hates him.

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We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.

>> No.2176441

Probably the greatest author human civilisation will ever produce is, on the internet, reduced to fragments of erotic letters to his partner.