/lit/ - Literature

>>21752060
Because he writes cowboy books. Cowboys are chud tier.

>>21752060
Most intellectuals are leftists, so probably.

>>21752060
He wrote a tranny character in his last and jn a positive light. So you’re right.

>>21752073
Reality has a left wing bias

>>21752087
Reality imposes artificial equality? Bullshit.

>>21752060
He is apolitical. He clearly likes the outcasts of society (bums, trannys, blacks etc.) but also says that Californian neo-liberals are an insufferable bunch.

>>21752136
> also says that Californian neo-liberals are an insufferable bunch.
Where?

>>21752138
https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2005/08/cormac-mccarthy-interview

>>21752078

>>21752060
Idk, but it's funny

The book is about the inevitability of violence and cruelty, something progressives not only don’t believe in but refuse to even consider. Since everyone who’s not a liberal progressive is a chud now, McCarthy is a chud. The fact that it’s a rustic Western only adds to the impression.

Who narrates this book?

>>21752060
>He for sure is likely a liberal/leftist
He was a registered Republican for at least 30 years before he started living in Mexico and is a deeply religious Christian conservative. He's almost definitely not a lefist you retard.

>>21752060
name a more overrated piece of shit than this book

>>21752273
The Alchemist

>>21752260
>>21752271
it's odd that a book about the inescapable, nauseating violence of the american project -- a dream of westward expansion that required intense, unending, genocidal extermination of the native population -- with a central character who is the personification of evil itself described as fat and white and greedy, typical american appearance -- was written by an avowed christian conservative. book really works against his stated beliefs. he could be saying genocide is based and redpilled or whatever too I guess.

>>21752516
Well, you even admitted the book is about [thing] and not a condemnation of [thing].

>>21752516
>westward expansion that required intense, unending, genocidal extermination of the native population
that never happened and it's not in the book. here is how 99% of the "unending genocidal extermination" went by the way
>some drunk, poor white settler is caught trapping beavers in indian territory by indians
>he narrowly escapes
>indian war chief beats war drum and whoops and hollers
>he leads like 15 indians to fight maybe 12 white dudes
>either the whites narrowly win because they have better firepower or the indians win, scalp the whites, and inadvertently bring small pox back to their camp by doing so, killing everyone

>>21752260
>The book is about the inevitability of violence and cruelty, something progressives not only don’t believe in but refuse to even consider.
But that's just Marxism.

>>21752094
This is the opposite of the materialism that leftism is built on. Read a book sometime.

>>21752536
>that never happened
yes it did
>it's not in the book
yes it is
>here's a story I just made up
ok

>>21752532
true, in more ways than one. the angle I identified is just one way to read the book. it's by no means the only angle of course. I would argue that the length and intensity of the violence itself is a condemnation of violence for any purpose, but I also recognize that mccarthy's saying that violence is an inescapable part of the human condition. like, it's not good, but we can't get rid of it kind of thing

>>21752563
>like,
oh you're a woman, that's why you sound like an idiot

>>21752592
I'm sorry I've made you angry anon, I hope you feel better soon

>>21752273
>>21752276
I like both of those books. Maybe you guys just don't "get it".

>>21752596
i'll feel better when you show me those titties

>>21752604
The Alchemist is considered self-help schlock where I’m from (and rightfully so).

>>21752073
>>21752087
Leftism is not built on materialism it is built on a Jewish inversion of Christian concern for the victim in an anti-Christian manner

Materialism is not reality anyways

In summation: kill yourself

>>21752610
ok so that makes it bad? get off your high horse

>>21752640
>DA JOOOOOS

>>21752546
>Marxism
Red chuds.

>>21752273
Moby dick

>>21752073
Im an intellectual

>>21752651
Yes, Marxists and psychoanalysts, and bankers which have pushed this. I’m glad we could see you separate from reality within two posts

>>21752273
Sure, Gravity’s Rainbow

>>21752063
>hii yaa

>>21752726
>Yes, Marxists and psychoanalysts, and bankers which have pushed this. I’m glad we could see you separate from reality within two posts

>>21752060
Probably because he uses period appropriate language for minorities in his books and rarely shows his characters through a moral lense. He seems pretty center left to me with some more progressive ideas in his last 2 novels.

>this thread
Will never understand how American literature is so good when the population is so utterly brain dead.

>>21752516
> McCarthy
> "christian conservative"
Wow, don't burn yourself with dem hot takes.

>>21752266
The sun.

>>21752516
>Christian conservative
Read Outer Dark

I suspect many thoughtful and reflective people (which authors are)—especially when older—generally have more complex, hard-to-categorize political views than retarded 20-somethings on both Twitter and 4chan.

>>21753317
Dude, it’s a seesaw where you must be totally on one side or the other

>>21752610
Where are you from? I've never been more disappointed to learn that a book was absolute garbage — exactly as you said, "self-help schlock" — than when I read The Alchemist. Yet in America, even among those whom I consider relatively well-read, it's praised to hell and back.

McCarthy is deeply Catholic: the first hint is in the name. There are a class of people that get so far into Catholicism that they end up with seemingly heterodox beliefs; Gene Wolfe also springs to mind. But no, there's ultimately little difference between Corncob YeCarthy and Flannery O'Connor (at least in the works I've read of his), except that O'Connor is a much more economical — and better, IMHO — stylist.

On a separate note, I'm reading Suttree and the belabored descriptions are brutal. Rarely you catch a glint of something worth remembering, like when he describes streetlights as "skullcolored," but the nigger really used the word "lubricity" twice in fewer than 50 pages. Look, I get that it's a fun word to say, but that doesn't make it necessary.

These long passages of purple description — totally different from the enjoyable ones of Proust, perhaps because there, a narrator is taking us into his interior — without any punctuation were what made me dislike Blood Meridian. That, and the violence that somehow shocked a youth raised on BestGore and LiveLeak. But the dialogue in Suttree is fantastic! It's engaging, funny, natural... Why does he commit to overburdening his work with these passages? I accept that I might be midwit enough to not appreciate it, but I think I see what he's going for and I don't think it's necessary.

>>21753384
why are 4channers so cringe?

>>21753389
For me, it's the amphetamines.

>>21753384
It is no surprise that your premise is faulty from the get go as regards to his catholic beliefs, when you peddle such pseud trash such as Gene Wolfe and Proust!

>>21753419
It's no surprise that you are shitposting on /lit/, when you denigrate authors without cause in a sad attempt to appear smarter than you are!

Here's a challenge: read the first 50pp. of Suttree and see how many references to Catholic practices and beliefs — I mean specifically Catholic, not just Christian — you can spot. If you want an extra challenge, try to connect each one to the theme of the book/scene. Good luck!

>>21753440
Catholic reference =/= author is catholic

Most religious references in McCarthy are either meant as futile or satire on the practice. He, like Faulkner, like many other writers from the era (Joyce, Beckett etc.), is a lapsed Catholic.

>>21753384
>On a separate note, I'm reading Suttree and the belabored descriptions are brutal. Rarely you catch a glint of something worth remembering
You are probably low IQ anon.

>>21752060
Everything is chud now. Get used to that. If it's good it's chud, because overlords only approve of YA fantasy books and vampire porn.