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Bros, where the fuck do I start with this guy to fully grasp him?

>> No.21724059

>>21724040
Don’t grasp him.

>> No.21724062

fake it

>> No.21724143

Hanegraaff recently published a paper on him on his academia. Just read that and see if it piques your interest. Personally I found evola boring and repetitive and just kind of dull, so I never got more than half way through any of his stuff

>> No.21724163

Metaphysics of war. This was a very short and good read. Don't try to tackle his big books though you will end up bored and tired. His essays are much better

>> No.21724180

>>21724040
Easy mode:
>start with Bow and the Club, Recognitions and then *maybe* Metaphysics of Power (this last compilation is poorly arranged by the editors)
>browse his other essays on counter-currents until you have more or less grasped his system
>maybe read Plato once you have most of it down, this will help you understand the challenging parts of Evola
>tackle the big ones
Hard mode:
>read Ride the Tiger
>read the Doctrine of Awakening AND Meditation on the Peaks
>read Ride the Tiger
>read Revolt and MATR
>read Ride the Tiger
>read the essays
>read Ride the Tiger
>read Ride the Tiger
>read Ride the Tiger
>read Ride the Tiger
>keep reading Ride the Tiger until everything is clear
>then reread the rest of his books until that is clear too
>then maybe reread Ride the Tiger one last time, just for fun!

>> No.21724324

>>21724040
Just find few quotes and make up the rest and pretend to have read him. That's what everyone does.

>> No.21724481
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>>21724180

>Hard mode:

>> No.21724538

>>21724481
Enjoy anon. If you have any questions, ask away - I just recently finished my uhhhh... 20th reread of RTT? I am in a good place to answer questions. If I can't answer your question, I'll probably look it up in my notes on the book!

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21724540

>>21724040
Depends km what you want to know.

>> No.21724566

>>21724180
You are little babby.
One starts with Arte astratta and La parole obscure, then moves on Idealismo magico and the Teoria e fenomenologia.

>> No.21724576

>>21724540
Damn I was so impressed with this breakdown and then I realised that I fucking wrote it lol. The first post anyway. That's so fucking funny.

>> No.21724577

Read his Orientations essay, then read Schuon's Transcendent Unity, then read Men Among the Ruins

If you read Revolt first, understand the first half is going to be painful but it gets easier from there

>> No.21724582

>>21724143
>Hanegraaff recently published a paper on him on his academia
this has to be interesting, I'll check it out, thanks.

>> No.21724590

>>21724566
I assume this stuff is related to his philosophical works on the absolute individual? These are surpassed by his later works though, as per Evola himself.

>> No.21725196

>>21724040
path of cinnabar

>> No.21725261

>>21725196
Path of Cinnabar is hard mostly because the huge chunk early on in the book where he talks about this stuff >>21724590 and the translator barely knows how to translate most of it

You should at least know going into it that the absolute individual stuff you can skim. For the record I think it is very interesting in its own right but newbies will be filtered and the translator of Cinnabar doesn't handle it well at all. You have to read between the lines and already be familiar with what it's talking about to make your way. I think the most egregious is mistranslating Fichte's POSITING as positioning or something.

>> No.21725266

Test

>> No.21725366

>>21725261
>I think the most egregious is mistranslating Fichte's POSITING as positioning or something.
LOL that's actually pretty funny, I thought it was a good translation - guess it has its flaws.

>> No.21725539

>>21725261
Read Path of Cinnabar last, read Revolt first if you aren't a brainlet (if you are, shouldn't be reading Evola). Just google the things that you haven't heard of.

>> No.21725545

>>21725366
It is generally very good and readable, I think the philosophy jargon is particularly dense there even in the Italian.

>> No.21725958

>>21724040
its too late anon, it's already done

>> No.21726353

>>21724040
Orientations
The Concept of Initiation
The Fall of Spirituality
Introduction to Magic

>> No.21726376

>>21726353
>recommending the workings of the UR Group i.e. Introduction to Magic before The Hermetic Tradition
anon...

>> No.21727596

>>21724040
With his first book.

>> No.21727640

>>21724180
Ride The Tiger came off as 75 pages bitching about how the existentialists were wrong and then the last part is just something akin to “old man yells at a cloud” not a bad read by any means but I got the point pretty fucking quick.

>> No.21727804

>>21724576
Lmao, nice. I was just as equally impressed with the breakdowns, that's why I saved them. It's one of the best, simple yet complete, starting guides I've seen for Evola.

>> No.21727882

>>21725261
path of cinnabar is a good first and last book
it's nice to see who/what shaped his worldview and can be easily skimmed

>> No.21727889
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21727889

if I were to edit this chart
I would go
>Path of Cinnabar
>Nietzsche/core/
>Evola social critiques and /pol/ books/essays
>Guenon/core/
>Evola eastern traditions books/essays
>Evola Hermeticism/Magic
>Path of Cinnabar
then re-read everything

>> No.21728772

>>21724040
>wanting to grasp Mr Evola
faggot

>> No.21728781

>>21727889
>that picture
if u like neither Nietzsce nor Guenon just start with Hermetic Tradition and you will be fine

>> No.21729713

>>21727640
>its too late anon, it's already done
I am not sure you did, but if you already had the gist of it before you even cracked it open that's absolutely great. I am still not entirely sure I fully get it. He didn't really argue against existentialism though, it was more like he was describing the actual "existential" environment of existentialism. Not sure what you mean by the cloud yelling part, presumably referring to the chapter on suicide or something?
>>21727889
I would edit it to:
>"Guide to Ride the Tiger"
>start with: Ride the Tiger
>finish with: Ride the Tiger

>> No.21730242

>>21728772
>Mr Evola
It's Baron.

>> No.21730261

>>21729713
I thought Revolt was better than RTT.

>> No.21730475

>>21730261
I prefer RTT. But you definitely don't need to read the entire corpus of Guenon and Nietzsche and half the corpus of Evola in order to read RTT, is the point.

>> No.21730492

his wikipedia page

>> No.21730577

>>21727889
Solid

>> No.21730604
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>>21724040
Recently found this, could be a help, but since I didn't start reading him yet I can't tell if it's a good chart or a bullshit one

>> No.21730709

>>21730604
is not that good

>> No.21731518

>>21724040
I always thought evola would be right up my alley until i actually got ahold of some of his books.
Dont waste your time reading his work. His philosophy is garbage. He argues for a return to caveman brain and denial of the real world. I read 3 books looking for something deep, but it's not there. Philosophy should extract you from animal thought and superstition, not towards it. Magic isn't real. You're just embracing ignorrance. He says some memorable things occasionally, but he's a wannabe nazi, wannabe nietzsche, wannabe aristocrat, pretend wizard.

>> No.21731531

read guenon and nietzsche

doctrine of awakening --> ride the tiger ---> introduction to magic vol 1 ---> hermetic tradition ---> anything else youre interested in from him