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1. humans are the highest degree of the objectification of the will to life
2. conversely the will is a more perfect version of the human
3. as highly advanced manifestations of will we are also endowed with reason
4. reason is subjected to will
5. however, when reaching a high degree of sophistication reason can be used to overcome the will
why then does the will not use it's own, more perfect reason to overcome itself? why isn't it a conscious god?

>> No.21695776

>>21695737
>2.
Faux pax. Surely not said by Schopenhauer himself, as he didn’t have two-digit IQ. The rest is invalid.

>> No.21695792

Further reading:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
PS: kys.

>> No.21695797

>>21695737
1. humans are the highest degree of the objectification of the will to life
AI is

>> No.21695896

>>21695776
2 follows from 1

>> No.21696018

>>21695792
I don't see how this applies
humans have reason because they are higher up on the ladder of objectification
animals have reason but it is not as sophisticated
if there were an organism above humans their reason would be superior to ours, continue this up until we reach the will itself and you see that it would have the best of all reason
for this fallacy to apply human reason would need to be an outlier, independent from the degrees of objectification but this is obviously false since animals have reason and the explicitly stated primitive forms of objectification, such as plants or laws of nature, don't

>> No.21696040

>>21695776
fpbp
>>21695737
>why then does the will not use it's own, more perfect reason to overcome itself? why isn't it a conscious god?
you misunderstand his concept of the will

>> No.21696062

>>21696040
explain it to me

>> No.21696076

>>21695737
>>21696062
1. No they are not
2. No it is not
3. No we are not
4. No it is not
5. No, it doesn’t
Because none of these things is real. They’re just the mental masturbation of a long dead incel pseud. If he was alive now, he’d be making YouTube videos like Peterson and he’d be decried by every litsperg as a grifter.

>> No.21696381

>>21695776
>>21695792
>>21696040
Morons

>>21696062
The real answer is that consciousness and reason don't have anything to do with the grades of objectification. Something is more objectified the more it wills. The dull striving of gravity is a far more primitive expression of the will than the manifold cravings of humans.
Consciousness happens to be a byproduct of SOME types of organisms but it's by no means universal and therefore divorced from the whole thing.

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21696396

>>21695737
The reason the will doesn't use reason is because it doesn't necessarily have one. Always read Kant as well.