/lit/ - Literature

What the fuck is it with these images?

The art to writing is to go one letter at a time.

How do I know when I over edited?

>>21684001
Got your attention, didn't it?
Or do you have something against pretty pirate girls?
inb4 thread theme: Only band I know of with 7 guitarists and 2 bass players.

>>21684014
Do we really need multiple mediocre ai generated pirate girls in a row, though? Or is it a commentary on how nobody in this thread can come up with something original to write about

How's my cover?

>>21684026
The sigil is fucked up, should manually edit that even if you're gonna use AI.

>>21684026
Looks like generic AI-generated art.

>>21684026
This looks like a fantasy loli and a regular boring cover. I don't really find it interesting, too mediocre. Wouldn't pick it up in a bookstore.

>>21684017
Mediocre? She looks pretty hot to me.

>>21684033
>>21684032
it is generic AI generated art.
>>21684034
Guess I'll find a different cover

>>21684017
It's literally just one AI fag still coping and seething that he got blown the fuck out three threads ago.

>>21684042
Then why are we even using this thread?

>>21684042
No, one anon asked when he'd see the other pirate girls, so I was obliging him.

>>21684026
You can hire a cover artist for like 100$ and actually get something more unique. Go to sketch mob. This is without the cover design elements and some other minor things being added. It won't be as polished, but it won't be noticeably AI-generated.

I want to write an opening where it seems like one thing is happening and then shift the reader's understanding so that they see its actually another thing happening. I want to do this within the first page or two.

Are there any books which do this that I can use as an example? I've written it a few times but it hasn't come out right.

>>21684086
implying ai shitters even care about being unique and non-generic kek

>>21684086
I would, but I also don't want to spend $100. It's not like my story is unique, it's just a fantasy story i threw together for Royal Road and Kindle Vella.

>>21684107
Somewhat ironic since you can make some very unique stuff with AI. The average ai shitter is too lazy to even put in the effort for that, though

>>21684121
>>21684107
>>21684086
Look at modern day fantasy covers. They're all the same.
>>21684026
This one starts looking unique because it uses Orange instead of the drab cool colors

>>21684133
And if it's not random girl on the front, it's giant words and some item in the middle that tells nothing about the book

>>21684133
A few of these were definitely made by AI

>>21684135
>random girl on the front
guilty as charged but she's hyperviolent and muscular so it's okay

>>21684100
It's called "misdirection", and most books do that.
https://www.google.com/search?q=literary+misdirection

>that moment where you read enough of a poet's work where you begin to see what they're doing and how they do it and are unable to read them anymore because they seem like hacks
damn it

>>21684170
Thank you, that is the word I was searching for. Do you know of any novels that do something like that in the first page or two?

I've been trying to do more writing recently and I just want to know: am I any good?

You don't have to give detailed feedback or even read the whole thing, I just want to know if I'm wasting my time trying to be a writer.

Can we get a new link to resources and recommendations? The pastebin is dead

>>21684230
If you're looking for a masterwork of misdirection, may I suggest "Ubik" by Philip K. Dick.
Not only does every chapter completely cast each previous chapter in a new light, revealing each previous chapter to be a misdirection, but he manages to connect the end of the book back to the beginning. So awesome as to be overwhelming.

Whoops, missed that there was a new thread. Reposting my response: >>21684243
>While I don't entirely disagree, I do want to personally enrich myself as a reader just given that some of the best writers I've known in my personal life were all avid readers as well. There's certainly something to be said for being literate in higher quality literature if you yourself want to write.

>More than anything, I just want to engage with media that has a bit more meat than a lot of the films and non-novel writing I've been consuming lately, but given my lack of free time I want to prioritize reading things that could help me improve as a writer myself.

Either way, appreciate the list someone recommended last thread. I'll probably try to find something there that piques my interest

>write
>Only able to get up to 1.7k words
How do I push through and reach the next level? Try to do more at once then take a breather and get back to it later?

>>21684232
You have written.
That, alone, puts you head and shoulders above the competition.

>>21684232
>I just want to know if I'm wasting my time trying to be a writer.
You're never going to waste your time writing
have a good attitude!

that being said; there is a lot to work on with your story. Sentence structure is awkward. "freezing my tits off" is not anything anyone would ever say.
wrapping a cellphone in foil (I assume you mean tinfoil), does not stop cell-phone towers from pinging it. Pretty sure they captured ghislaine maxwell the same way

But I enjoyed it, if it was a full-length (edited) novel I would read it

>>21684262
Do you mean in a single sitting, the sum total you find yourself working towards on a project before quitting, or in a single day, week, month, etc?

>be 38
>wife useless. Doesn't clean. Doesn't help. Sits on couch all day eating ice cream and writing fanfiction.
>work from home and be stuck in hot water closet getting shit on all day
>read weird fiction every night before I pass it due to anxiety and exhaustion (about 5 minutes)
>dream of writing but wife makes fun of me and no time after putting kids to bed and making dinner for everyone

Should I kill myself? I'm so tired.

>>21684309
sounds like you need to kick your worthless piece of shit of a wife to the curb more than anything

>>21683996
These pirate girl images have motivated me to writing my own pirate novel.

>>21684309
>Married and had kids with a lazy woman who doesn't do anything to help out around the house
I feel like you likely had many chances to not make such a bad decision. Not even sure what advice to offer you, since having kids complicates things greatly

>>21684309
irish exit

>>21684309
>be 39
>26yo wife have big booba and tiny waist, working on her master's. Cleans. Helps. When not working, writes erotica for petty cash.
>work at a hosptial and be stuck in nursing closet getting shit on all day
>read weird fiction every night before I pass it due to anxiety and exhaustion (about 5 minutes)
>writing a duology, finished the first book, and wife beta reads and contributes meaningful feedback. No children, and we share cooking responsibilities.

>... Life was hell for last 38 years.
You can do it. Write on your phone if you must. I will buy and review your book!

Also, Reviewfag here. Any of you faggots need a review? I WILL BUY AND REVIEW YOUR BOOK!

I came up with a simplistic magic system just so I can write awesome fights.

>>21684386
review fedbook. i have my eyes on buying that but im unsure if its just schizo nonsense

>>21684386
Sure, I'll be shameless.
They're just the first two of four but they cover a self-contained arc.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNYYQ8VC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BS48VW8G

You can also just read it for free on RR:
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42627

>>21684408
Forgot cover for the first volume.

>>21684408
I will only review one book from an author. Is the first volume acceptable?
>>21684403
John J. Stancliff?

>>21684426
Vol. 1 and 2 were originally written as a continuous narrative and split up later on for the paperback publication, so you could just read the "0.X" numbered chapters on RR and treat it as one book. Vol. 1 ends on a hard cliffhander with the protagonist waking up alone in a dungeon.

The fifth volume on the RR page, titled "Sturmblitz Kunst Vol. 1", could also work, as it was written to work as a standalone with a new POV character at the start to facilitate it.

>Think about character for a story
>Nazi character like the dude from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
>His arc ends with him renouncing the party and taking care of a black child
Why the fuck am I so influenced by goyslop? How do I overcome globohomo brainwashing and be true to reality?

>>21684442
I think that works as long as I know that. It's about time for a new /lit' book, so I'll take a peek and probably start it this week.

>>21684291
"freezing my tits off" is a totally normal phrase. Maybe not in the UK idk.

>>21684232
It's totally fine.
My only worry would be that the opening hook comes a little late.

I’ve been trying to wean myself off of MTL Chinkshit by reading actual Chinklit translated by fluent Chink/English speaker, and even though the quality of translation is infinitely better, the tropes are almost exactly the same. I read a translation of Water Margin and it utilizes tropes I’ve seen one to one in newer MTL’d chinklit, though to be fair, many of those tropes originated in that novel. Honestly surprised at how well the basic plot of “me and the bros do X” works out.

>>21684449
>>like the dude from JoJos Bizarre Adventure
>Why the fuck am I so influenced by goyslop?

>>21684487
to be fair jojo's is based and the guy he's talking about, Stroheim, never once even slightly shifts from being an unabashed nazi and canonically dies a hero's death in the siege of Stalingrad

>>21684478
It's sort of the LotR of the China. The other classics, RotTK and tMK are both great too.

Recently I've been watching Xianxia C-dramas in the background. Since I don't speak Chinese, the dialogue doesn't distract me like an English show would. I glance over every once in awhile for fight scenes.

>>21684478
Much like its people, Chinese fiction is largely devoid of individuality.

>>21684490
>Jojo is based
Popular thing is goyslop. Thing that gay people like is goyslop. If its on a Walmart T-shirt its goyslop too. You got slopped. Own up to it goy.

>>21684500
That's... Not what goyslop means, brain champion. I am not particularly fond of jojo to begin with, but that doesn't mean I'll deride the series for the sin of being popular.

>>21684507
You just posted goyslop. Congratulations.

>>21684510
Yup, your post is going in my goyslop compilation.

>>21684487
That illustrates my point, but doesn't answer my question

>>21684515
>>21684531
Slopped.

>>21684535

>>21684133
>>21684135
>>21684137
Design principles nowadays might as well follow an AI pipeline, lel.

>Book threes looking like 170k - 190k.
>Almost finito, just a few fapters to go.
>Just starting to hit my 1k a day stride after holiday lul.
BUT I DONT WANNA EDIT FOR A FECKING MONTHS STRAIGHT!

>>21684617
>he doesn't edit chapters as he goes
That's just asking for a bad time later. You're always going to need to make some structural changes and redo some scenes, but the chapters should at least be clean

>>21684622
Oh they are, I write them then give a cursory edit, then edit them again and once more before posting them.
Its the second editing marathon i'm dreading.
>it takes me more then one edit to get it right.
I have a permanent cognitive dysfunction that makes it mandatory unfortunately

>>21684617
I still have no idea how people write 120k+ words. What is there to talk about?

>>21684650
I'm now making you aware of the fact that Xianxia novels regularly go into the millions of words

Hello /wg/

I have started working on a book.

It's an erotic/horror/fantasy setting. It's an alternate history in a modern-ish setting.

What sort of things do you hate in this sort of story, and what do you want to see more often?

>>21684661
>It's an erotic/horror/fantasy setting. It's an alternate history in a modern-ish setting.
There's so many things going on here that I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly the novel is going to be like. You're going to have to give me a bit more to go off of

I have a YouTube channel and I'm somewhat successful but I have a lot of trouble writing scripts. I feel like everything I write "sounds" wrong. I've been doing this for almost ten years and I make decent money off it but I'd like to take my video writing to the next level. How can I change my style?

>>21684672
One thing I do to make sure my characters sound human is actually say their dialogue. It makes my schzio grandma think something's wrong with me, but it's how I stop my teenagers from sounding like adults.

>>21684410
How much did you pay someone to do that cover?

>>21684617
>1k a day
I can do 1k in an hour.

>>21684687
So can I, but that doesn't mean it'd be particularly good at that pace

>>21684691
Fair, but it impressed everyone in my creative writing class (women).

>>21684715
Women are impressed by female characters that are male yet called female. Not much of a hallmark.

>>21684297
A single sitting.

>>21684739
You shouldn’t try to push yourself too crazily in that case. Just try to make yourself write consistently and eventually, you’ll see your word count start going up. There will obviously be days where you won’t be able to write as much, but I’ve found that over a 17 day period of writing consistently every day, my average word count in a single setting went from around 1500-2000 words to 2000-3400ish words. Of course, this was over a 2-3 hour period and it’ll likely be different for you, but if you can stay consistent; even if you were to only write 100 more words than your average, you will be writing more than 95% of the human population ever will. You’ll certainly be writing more than I have, at the very least.

>>21684720
My stories never actually had many female characters.

>>21684745
I sometimes wonder if I should turn my Clint Eastwood like badass side character female just to appeal to horny bastards and women.

>>21684757
My most popular character was based on Rasputin and women seemed to eat him up. Just make him a misogynist and theyll eat it up.

>>21684386
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTWCGDWJ

May as well, it's not like the ads I bought are working

>>21684386
I'll take a review.
>no purchase required, but please be honest and don't sugar coat it.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57441/the-elevation-chronicles-grimdarklit-rpgfeels

>>21683996
I liked the first one more ngl

How would you guys go about "writing what you know"?

How would you relate your life on to the page?

(Talking about writing what you know is fine too. Like me writing about autism)

>>21683996
The images have been shit for a while now.

>>21684386
Did you ever get around to reviewing Faceless?

>>21684403
Fedbook is not schizo nonsense, though that impression certainly belies the first two reviews I’ve received on Amazon. picrel is a goodreads review from some random dude who found the book off of twitter when he encountered my announcement tweet.
>>21684386
Please review Fedbook, if you’re so inclined. We’ve got another interested Anon in this thread and probably several other lurkers. People are curious.

>>21685381
Forgot to attach Goodreads review

>>21684410
retribution engine reminds me of the torment nexus.

>>21684262
>>21684744
Those are huge amounts for a single sitting, at least for me. There are days in which I write 500 tops. Well, it doesn't help that I don't outline much. I only have a vague idea of what happens in the scene and go for it

I'm just not a good enough writer.

>>21685392
hahaha fuck it kinda does sound like something that would be written into a theoretical Torment Nexus book as a counterpoint to the Torment Nexus

>>21684680
That one specifically was far cheaper than it rightly should've been as the artist was a friend and gave me a huge discount. I'd say you can probably get a decent cover for 100-200usd if you take your time to look. ´

>use the same character name for every MC you write
Is this a good idea? I'm starting to confuse MCs at this point

>>21683996
I'm working on some elemental dragons for my setting, but I need some more feedback and help with making them more distinct beyond just colors and breath weapons, unlike what picture related does. Like, if I give my water dragons a water breath weapon, how could I nerf it a bit besides them needing to actually store the water internally? What could I do as an Earth dragon breath weapon besides lava, since that crosses over too much with Fire? I'm thinking that Water dragons would be more like sea serpents in appearance, but what could I do for Wind dragons in terms of appearances? I was thinking Wyverns would be a separate species, so what can I do for Wind dragons besides copying Rayquaza? I’m thinking that Earth dragons might be flightless, or at least have lesser flight capabilities, with claws for burrowing.

>>21685692
I told you
Fireflies
Dragonflies
Butterflies
Sandflies

>>21685692
is this a joke?

How much will she hate me for that?

>>21685714
He's been seriously trying to world build the past 3 months or so. But has yet to figure out how to make his dragons shoot fire and color schemes.

He could even copy pokemon but doesn't. Just have fire dragons be lizard like, water dragons have insect wings, wind with bird like wings and feathers, and earth dragons be wingless.

I did his myth in a minute.

>>21685737
Zero. You won't even be in her mind. That's reserved for Chad and Tyrone and how she'll get fucked by them.

>>21685747
C'mon, anon. He might live somewhere that isn't pozzed. This kinda stuff still works in some places.

>>21685747
I take this as confirmation of my fears. Working on this for the past few days has made me realize that I over-romanticized the whole situation. The poem was never meant to be a love confession, but rather a playful joke to pique her interest in the chads and tyrones of the world..

>>21685692
you need to remember that dragons will do anything for money, including breaking the law

>>21685790
just don't teach them about capitalism or we'll get dragon robber barons

>>21685790
>>21685805
That's why you counteract the dragon's love for capitalism with the griffins that preach for socialism and fairness to all largest winged creatures

>>21685821
...one robber baron dragon is an easier problem to solve than an entire population of FILTHY FUCKING COMMIE RAVENS

>>21685831
What do you propose then? An army of insectoids that fear the dragon's fire so they happily obey the lizards command and hunt down the griffins?

>>21684793
Do you have anywhere else to buy it other than Amazon? Like the cover art and the synopsis!

>>21685853
We don't need to use commie birds as a counter to begin with, instead we can with some caution cultivate the type of culture among adventurers that will lead them to slay any dragon who becomes a monopolistic force

>>21685876
These adventurers are far too weak and hopeless to slay a dragon. They would work underneath the dragon with promises of a portion of the dragon's wealth, which to the dragon's credit, provides. A small penance for the mammalians to find their hedonistic lifestyles and substance. In return the mammalians protect the dragon's wealth from the commie griffins, wearily pessimistic of their promises of equality.

>>21685856
You can order it on Barnes and noble, but Amazon is your best option. I hope you buy and enjoy it.

>>21685890
Appeal to dragons' pride to fuel competition and counteract monopolies. Their egoism and territorial nature will be the most effective antitrust system imaginable.

>>21685910
>>21685890
You idiots better write this story.

>>21685922
I would if I wasn't already working on two other WNs
Hopefully that other anon picks it up

>>21685910
But that's were the mammalians follows lie. The Dragon's are in competition with themselves only. The occasional loyal puppet would be accepted into the ranks to demonstrate fairness of competition. A loyal insectoid doing the bidding of the dragons. The commie birds see through the farce, but of course only they could for they are the enlightened race of animals that dwell in this world.

>>21685953
Folly not follows.

Fucking phone posting

>>21685737
Would a phantom sea vanish and then return? That image stands out as odd to me.

>>21684793
>>21684408
>>21685381
I'll be reading Fedbook, Retribution Engine and The Beautiful Kingdom in order of shortest to longest. I'm putting this here for my own organization.

It is indeed a bit odd, and you are right to notice. The good thing is that you only picked up on that, so the rest must be passable, right?

Honestly, I have no clear idea of what I am trying to convey there and got myself a bit lost during its writing. Besides using the imagery of the "phantom sea" to rhyme with "me," I intended to make clear the way I felt whenever she moved out of my sight. Hence, the vanishing and returning. The only imagery I could connect it with was that of the sea, whether one imagines the waves washing up on the shore or a tide that raises the sea levels. "Phantom" was used to express the mystery that surrounded her, and I could only make guesses about who she is. Does it sound to you a bit less odd now?

>>21686041
You forgot to tag whoever you were replying to.

>>21685988
>>21686041

>>21686041
Yes, I thought the rest was well-done. It evoked the atmosphere you were aiming for, I think.

Maybe it's a strange thought, but I wondered whether a comma before "like a phantom sea" might be better.

Like this:
Vanishing and returning, like a phantom sea
My feelings were tossed and unfurled

I'm not sure if that is better or worse.

>>21686171
Alright, now I will spend the rest of my day reading it again and again, with and without commas, to figure out if it works. Thank you for taking the time to read it and even give me some feedback that I can reflect upon.

Anyone actually writing anything of cultural critique or philosophical challenge in these threads?

Too lazy to think of name for my town since the serial killer was originally going to becalled The Bane of (Insert town name here). He may or may not be an alien.

>>21686257
Grady's Hill 'cause a guy called Grady shat himself to death atop a hill and the town's landmark tree grew from his corpse

>>21686227
Well, writing fiction that critiques spciety or philosophy gibes you out as a tasteless midwit. You're supposed to challenge other fiction, understanding and refuting profound fiction takes a lot more intelligence and abstract thinking.

>>21686227
Show us your cultural critique

>>21684309
>>21684386
I feel a good story could be made from the kernels of these two posts. Following both POV's where one character seems to initially be doing well while the other is alone and a failure. Then the first one starts to get their shit together while the second begins to fall apart. Through the years although the first does not find love or any great success, they become content in their mediocrity. Meanwhile the second gets heavily in debt after taking out a loan he can't repay to 'invest in his dreams'. Also after getting browbeaten into marriage by the GF, she one day ends up deciding that for no reason at all he is an abusive asshole. Messy breakup ensues and she takes half his shit and ownership of the pet they bought together. Series of self destructive choices ensue and he ends up homeless and sucking dick for crack before the other character watches on as a face in the 'normal' crowd a bystander while he publicly an heroes off a tall building.

Thematically it would be about the duality of modern man and the cost of the erosion of traditional relationships.

>>21685103
just start
Use a something from your life as the foundation of your story but don't let the truth get int the way of a good story.

>>21685103
Banter, tragedy, drama, and toxic relationships.
I know all of that because of life.

YWNBAW

>>21684232
I read the whole thing at once. I don't have much knowledge of the art of writing, but I think you are doing something right.
To elaborate a bit, the part where he kills her in the alley has a nice tension and I didn't feel any break in the flow of reading. And the protagonist seems to know his stuff (except the phone in tinfoil, that was meh).
Sorry I can't give you a more useful comment. At my level, I can't see if there are things you can do better.

>>21686393
I'd read this

I hate when the author dwells too much in the description of scenarios. I get bored and hope he gets back to the pasts that make my brain tingle with good ideas or good prose. But that seems to be an unpopular opinion, at least with the people I know irl. They all enjoy descriptions and say that my writing lack more of it. Like, describing the environment is enough to go to the cool parts with people interacting and such, right?

>>21686669
The trick is to only tell what you need to in order to an instill an image. They'll fill in the rest.

>>21683996
posting this to purposely cause seethe ITT

https://adolfstalin.substack.com/p/a-bit-of-a-reprise-on-the-original

>>21686673
I feel an autistic compulsion to convey the image in my head including the weird opening method of an ancient magic door

>>21686715
>the weird opening method of an ancient magic door
what?

>>21686731
I cannot help but include specific environmental details that wouldn't be necessary to paint a basic scene image.

>>21686745
Know, actually describe it. What does it do? Because if you waste a paragraph on it, you are just being needlessly autistic unless it's an actual plot element.

>>21686753
There have been multiple instances, but the most recent and plot-relevant one was a gate used to pierce through curse barriers around the burial place of an infant sun god. This one is very much plot relevant.

There are definitely instances where it's just me being needlessly autistic, though, and I've used such things to build tension/anticipation.

>>21686774
>There have been multiple instances
yeah, might want to tone it down

>>21685790
I understood that reference

>>21686782
I would agree if I wasn't working with a monster 800k+ words long. There are entire books worth of content between major instances of THE COOL DOOR

>>21684133
>>21684135
These covers sell. I would never buy a book with any of these covers. The fact that you'd have a cover like that to represent your book means that what is inside is just generic slop for women. And generally when I hate something, normies love it. For every me there will be 10000 normie women who'll buy it because they actually like that kind of cover cause it looks good on a shelf or whatever.

>>21684086
>You can hire a cover artist for like 100$ and actually get something more unique
AI with free stockphotos and a google font. Just learn Photoshop you gimps.

>>21686809
Let's see your cover.

Rate and hate, homos.

I just wanted to thank all the posters in this thread for helping me get some great inspiration for fresh scene.
>>21686393
The twist should be that at the end the 'normalized' character can't understand why the guy would an hero.

>>21686906
Its pretty good but there are some words I would change or take out to keep it from feeling purposefully excessive.
I wrote something similar a year or so ago in class.

>>21686344
>writing fiction that critiques spciety or philosophy gibes you out as a tasteless midwit
>You're supposed to challenge other fiction
as if challenging philosophy or religion isn't precisely this

Reposting this because it got no crits in the previous thread, which broke my little heart.

Also available as a pastebin: https://pastebin.com/78nbyi2f

>>21687105
The narration's obnoxious.

>>21687105
>>21687114
also, if this is a teenager like it seems to be, their internal monologue being weirdly sophisticated takes away from it

>>21687114
Is that just because of the curt 'No response' or did you read beyond? Either way, I wasn't aiming for obnoxiousness.

>>21687129
scimmed it because i don't really care
your protagonist seems like how an adult views a teenager rather than a teenager thinking about things

it seems my writing output improves 100% when I get 0 sleep
weird

>>21687158
same
i tried to replicate the altered state of mind with alcohol but booze just makes me pass out

>>21687170
I'm guessing it may be a mixture of my mind just zoning out and completely bypassing whatever "does this make sense" organ is in my mind

>>21684609
If I ever get picked up by publisher, I would have to fight them to not sabotage my odds of selling well with a cover like that. I would gladly pay a artist $100 or $200 to have a cover that says somthing about my book. This is >implying a publisher in current year doesn't destroy my book before then or bathers with a manuscript form a white male.

>>21686806
With all the light novels being sold in English, you think the big publishers would realize you can sell books to more demographics then cat ladys.

>>21686036
If you're willing to share I'd like to repost your reviews on my substack to give our boys some more more search result surface area.

Just send to TookysMag@gmail.com or hit me up here if it's something you're ever interested in.

How do writing machines like Knausgaard and Ian Brandon Sanderson manage to write 100 paes a day. Their output is pretty amazing

https://www.webnovel.com/book/dark-crow-rising_14515049706684405?fbclid=IwAR0jzU3m5Kd5KwIfJTTViNVW-tNa7FjPKcfcpdk0WkNGJt6wjKse-2eS7kc

Gis it a read, innit :)

>>21687352
ghost writers

>>21687354
>he fell for the webnovel contract
my condolences

>>21687354
use "however" less

>>21687358

Brando Sando possibly uses a gohst writer but I don't see Knausgaard doing it since it would seem dishonest from his pov

>>21687352
>Brandon Sanderson manage to write 100 pages a day
I don't think he's ever said that lol
at most he says he writes, every 4 hours, like 2k words

>>21687436

I was exagerating Sando's count since he puts out his novels fairly quickly I remember hearing somewhere Knausgard managed to write about 50 or so pages a day when I think his wife was in the hopsital giving birth to one of his daughters just as something to do even that's impressive

>>21687075
Majority of philosophy and all religion are fictitious, but they are not literature or true fiction. The need for the reader or a scholar to accept the teachings as a real thing invalidates all non-scientific knowledge. If you can't put your words into a story you can't pretend your decadent ramblings have merit. Only real things you can feel and consider can be put into literature, any garbage can be put into a philosophy book. That's why this is such an important art form.

Brandon Sanderson is goyslop and I mean it. So is King, Koontz, Clancy, the majority of Neil Gaymans stuff, and maybe Robert Jordan.

>>21686999
Thanks, and you're right I agree. I wrote it in an insomnia delirium last night and couldn't be effed revising

>>21687352
chatGPT

Anyone else notice that 70% of writers on social media are all single mothers? WTF lmao.

>>21687502
Name one fantasy or science fantasy author who isn't goyslop and not Bakker either.

>>21684309
i feel you. I am in a similar situation.

>>21687483
>but they are not literature or true fiction
The big example, the bible, is stories. The cultural impact of those stories simply insofar as allusions has been enormous. And the majority of even christians view large portions of the bible as not being literal, even literal believers don't usually accept the entire book as "a real thing". Literature makes the philosophy or religion you're trying to convey relatable and palatable, that's why it's useful and that's why abrahamic religion has been so resilient and spread so far.

>>21686257
First, punctuation. Use it.
>to the point of no longer resembling what it used to be.
You already showed this with the pile of entrails and the speculation regarding the causes of the cow's demise.
>Eviscerated was the best way[...]
Again, you said it already. It would be one thing if you wrote in first person and these were the thoughts of the pov character, but they aren't.
>MacCreedy was well liked [...] or make enemies with anyone.
This is an infodump. If it's important for the reader to know this McCreedy and his relationships with the rest of the town, show him being a friendly individual that has no enemies.
>Jane suggested
Said. Jane said. It's the only dialogue tag you'll ever really need.
>Tom and Jane had spent a good hour in the car speculating[...]
Is it important? Then show it. And try not to travel back and forth in time: Tom and Jane are in front of the cow's corpse, not in their car on the way to it.
>Incredibly frustrating
Incredibly doesn't tell me anything. You either show how The Bane is frustrating the police, or you just say "he was frustrating for the police to catch". That is still bad, but a tad better than "incredibly frustrating".
>Previously all of the killer victims [...] Modus Operandi pattern of all the other previous victims.
You can find a better moment to tell this to the reader. Maybe not all at once, maybe in a scene where the guy who's working on the case is talking to a new collegue. But no infodump.

The rest I won't cover in details, but:
>Tom wondered while gazing
If he's staring, he's probably also thinking. Omit "wondered".
>There was something that kept drawing him to look
Show it:
"He turned his head away from the corpse, but his eyes kept glancing at it".
>It felt like he was standing on the precipe [...]
Remove "it felt like".
>"Only explanation I can think [...] ever see anything like this before Tom?"
This last dialogue is way too long. And try to avoid rethorical questions like the latter. Cut some parts, put some pauses where Tom speaks, or show Jane doing something instead of just talking.
For example (not the best example, but to make the point clear):
"Someone has to be fucking with us" said Jane and she ran her hand on her forehead. "This is the third cow in two months!"
Tom put his hand on Jane's shoulder and said "rest assured, we'll get whoever is doing this to your farm."

All these are small things you can fix with not much effort. Don't give up, read some books on writing, try to see what your favorite authors do in their books and you'll make progress.
And write a lot.

>>21683996
I had the idea that goblins are created by a kind of magical affliction that infects another humanoid over time, but I can't decide, does it work better as a kind of magical virus, or as some kind of parasite? What are the pros and cons of each one?

>>21684309
Your wife is a fucking loser, man up and divorce her fat stupid ass

>>21687913
make it a fungus because viruses aren't real

If someone goes to become a public figure in the future, what happens if Ive paid for some weird fetish stuff and my real name is there, because paypal
What are the odds that shows up later? Should I tell the artist to delete the invoice? Its still going to show up.

Asking for my writing and other media, tb h Im pretty cancelable

>>21687959
don't worry. by the time it's relevant society will have degenerated to the point where they'll be debating whether pedos and zoofuckers are legit
but if you used offensive language then you're done

>>21687959
should've covered your tracks and never used your real name or something as fucking shit as paypal

>>21687981
>>21687982
Serious answers, what can I do?
Its not racist stuff but me being a weird person

>>21687991
serious? okay as a politician
1. deny, deny deny
2. then, if necessary, downplay and move on
this is basic stuff. but if you're not a sociopath you're probably not going to get very far as a 'public" person

>>21688003
I mean, by public figure I mean artist.
Ok, so always deny and dont pay attention to it.

>>21686669
Same problem. The thing to keep in mind is that it's so much faster to read a book than write one. So it's not necessarily descriptions, but taking your time to say what you want.

>>21687158
>>21687170
It's a sign of ADHD.

Do you guys look down on those who write young adult fiction? I'm writing a story similar to Maze Runner and Hunger Games and elements of Lord of the Rings and I wonder if that's looked down upon

>>21688105
I'm not surprised. I would get a meth-lite prescription if I didn't live in an ex-CCCP shithole where that sort of care doesn't exist for anything short of suicidal ideations or full-blown schizophrenia

>>21687913
Have it be like cancer and certain magics are carcinogenic. Like if a wizard polymorphs too much or tries to extend their lifespan.

>>21688109
No, not really. If it's what you enjoy writing, then go for it. I only look down on people who exclusively read it. I don't blame the authors for writing something they enjoy and know will make money

>>21688109
/lit/ sure does. But /wg/ is impressed if you actually force yourself to write anything at all, since we know how hard it can be.

>>21688109
Wait, is hating on young adult fiction a thing?
That's all I've been writing for the past 14 months.

>>21688248
It's not taken as serious as ordinary fiction

>>21688293
Why???

>>21688302
Seen as immature, appealing to teenagers

>>21688248
Hate to break it to you anon, but I don't know anyone who takes YA novels seriously. I, certainly, have never been a fan.

>>21688248
I've written nothing but YA fantasy/romance/scifi. Most people on /lit/ have told tell me my stuff is garbage, a handful of kind anons have called my stuff mindless but enjoyable. You gotta write what you want and let other people think what they want.

what's the literary device here?

>kid gets into a lot of fights at school
>parents decide to move to save the son
>parents say everything will be okay from now on
>without any influence, the reader knows the new school will be even worse on the kid

Is it foreshadowing? Even if nothing is hinting at the new school being worse for the kid?

>>21688382
is he starting the fights?

>>21688382
I wouldn't call it a literary device. You are creating an expectation in the reader that, as this is the beginning of the story, either that the next school will be worse or that he will meet a group of friends that will help him recover

The tone as you describe the school/students/events will dictate which they think will happen most

>>21688389
no
>>21688395
in the story summary it says he goes to a school that is much worse. but what if the summary did not mention this. If the summary does mention this, is it foreshadowing? If it doesn't , what is it?

explain to me like im 5. I never paid attention in elementary school

>>21688382
>without any influence, the reader knows the new school will be even worse on the kid
Cannot be true if
>nothing is hinting at the new school being worse for the kid
is true.
The reader might guess, but they can't know. Without any hints, I wouldn't assume either way.

>>21688382
Because moving schools is always a shitty experience and the new school being worse, tat least o begin with, is cliche.

>>21688401
>If the summary does mention this, is it foreshadowing?
I don't get what you're asking, if his parents say it will be fine then it either will be or won't be and whatever you decide will count as foreshadowing. I feel like you are trying to get me to do your homework

>>21688382
The familiar idiom “out of the frying pan and into the fire”’springs to mind.
People are accustomed to not expecting a happy ending in the first 10 pages of a book, so yes a certain presentment is implied.

>>21683996
I will incontestably be known as the greatest writer from India and the Indian subcontinent.
Write it down fellas. Make ya bets. Writer with the initials brn. I will win the Booker. I will win the Sahitya Akademi. I will win the Nobel prize. I win transform and save my people and bring them to a new level of existence.
Every day, I think and dream of green, of Keralam. Anatha enne rakshakenne.

>>21688433
You don't write like an Indian. Kudos.

>>21688447
I have noticed that Indians that write in English often write in an odd way. They have a weird relationship with English in that they feel English as a foreign thing, in that, when they write in English, they have their center of gravity somewhere else, i.e. not India. I fundamentally disagree with that. My English will always be centered towards the south of India, where my parents are from. English, or at least, Indian English, is a completely Indian language, that has been in India for many centuries, that has had tremendous diversity depending on where the language is spoken, i.e. English in Kerala, or Tamizh Nadu, or Mumbai, or New Delhi, or Karnataka, or Bengaluru, or Thiruvananthapuram, or Chennai, is different and unique and worthy of deep creative intensity. Of course, Malayalam or Tamizh or Marathi or Kannada is more important, but: I promise you this: I will be the most important Indian English writer of the next few decades. Every single award will belong to me and also will belong to you, my fear friends of /lit/. God bless.

>>21684458
True. In British, that would be "gobblewonking my bollyjodknockers".

>>21688447
Elaborate

>>21684793
>$7.99 e-book
>$14.99 paperback
I don't think the problem is that the ads aren't working.

>>21685199
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, but it takes character and self-control to be understanding and forgiving.” -Dale Carnegie
"LOL u suck. pwned" -4chan-ese translation

i love when indians repeat what im saying when i call up tech support.

"hi my account was locked can we reset the password please? the site isn't working."

"GOOOD MORNING SER I UNDERSTAAND TAHT YOUR SITE ISNT WORKING AND THE ACCOUNT WAS LOCKED AND YOU ARE ASKING ME TO UNLOCK THE ACCOUNT AND RESET THE PASSWORD. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND SIR. DO NOT WORREY I CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE OF YOU TODAY. SER MAY I ASK YOUR NAME PLEASE? OKAY THAT YOU MISTER AYY-NON.

>Back in college I used to be able to sit down alone with a bottle of vodka and pump out a few pages an hour for 10-12 hours without noticing the time pass.
>Now that I'm married with a full-time job, and can't get drunk alone in the dark for hours at a time, I'm lucky to be able to write two pages a day.
Does anyone else know this feel? Has anyone figured out how to write well while sober and with family interrupting?

>>21688504
you seriously think it's too expensive?

>>21688433
But can you poo in the loo ?

>>21688512
Bruh if you're on those retard Kolkata lists, then you must be a true retard. Switch from AT&T seriously

>>21688504
$14.99 paperback is par for the course if it has any real volume to it

>>21686713
Dude, this is 4chan.
We get trolled 6 times before breakfast.

>>21688539
AT&T has not been a thing in my city for 20 years.

>>21686809
Or learn GIMP, and avoid paying for (or pirating) Photoshop!

>>21688532
I dunno. Can you let you mother have a single day off from feeding you tendies so she can get the BIG BROWN DICK that she's been so desperately craving for the last twenty years?

>>21687538
It gives them something to do before the strip club opens.

>>21688548
Then suck my dick you stupid fuck
Just change from whatever monopoly you're currently subscribed to

>>21687546
Philip K. Dick.

>>21687815
It's like a boring version of "Deep Thoughts" by Jack Handy.

>>21688433
That's like being the most virtuous whore on Skid Row.
Your country is only famous for spam-calls and rubbing cow shit on yourselves.

>>21688109
If you make enough money from it, you can look down on everyone else.

>>21688531
Unless it's 200K words or so.
I price my books at just enough to get like 20 cents or something from Amazon if it ends up being ordered by a bookstore (which, of course, hasn't happened).

>>21688591
Schwai schwai my friend. Without a single doubt in my mind, you will be reading my literature in five years. Before you die, you will think of Keralam as the single greatest cultural and socio-political region of Asia. I am literally giving you a warning more than a decade in advance. Remember my name, /lit/bro. I love you, and I want you to fuck more women than you ever thought was possible.

Hey guys! Just whipped up a short story. Tried to post it to pastebin but they said it could only be private for being offensive and questionable. It's about 7 pages long. Any recs for how I should share it here?

>>21688628
I absolutely wanna read it bro

>>21688628
pastes.io

What writing program do you guys use? I would always use wordpad but for some reason its gotten laggy

>>21688668
Libreoffice

>>21688663
Thanks!
Here's a short I wrote today. The title popped in my head so I wrote what came to mind. Also, I don't usually write in first person but I felt given the title it was appropriate. Enjoy my edge.

https://pastes.io/ro12mdgikk

>>21688668
Microsoft Word or Open Office

>>21684151
A few minutes with Stable Diffusion's img2img on your rough sketch produced this.

>>21688628
catbox.moe

>>21684151
A few minutes with Stable Diffusion's img2img on your rough sketch produced this.

>>21685708
Those aren't dragons.

>>21685739
I explicitly said that I wasn't trying to copy too much from Pokémon. And why would Water dragons have insect wings, wouldn't something like flying fish fins be better?

>>21688715
of course it turned her into an anime girl in a normal tanktop with a normal fireball

picrel is how the character actually looks

>>21688694
what in the fresh fuck
you may enjoy this in return: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/clown-breeding-101-with-prof-richard-c-normus

5k is the best chapter size

>>21688668
Google docs. LOL

>>21688752
unironically same, between that and my live posting schedule the most i will ever lose if it all gets yeeted is a couple thousand words

Why bother writing when these writers are simply better than me?

>>21688768
you think only great writers sell books?

>>21688768
I can shit out a short story about cyborg lizard commandos meeting their end in the deserts of Dorgatha-12 and it will have more pathos than these pozzed fags' entire bodies of work combined

>>21688778
yes
>>21688783
They're better writers than you. They have better prose, better editors, better covers, better flow, better storytelling, better conventions, and better techniques.

>>21688797
>buncha gayass nigger shit
>le good
nope

>>21688732
Your commitment to your fetish is aspirational.

>>21688742
There is no best chapter size. Some of the best chapters I've read have been less than a thousand words, and others span the entire novel

>>21688852
eww

>>21688694
It would be funnier if he didn't put so emphasis on his wacky job. If the story were about something else and he mentioned his job in an off hand way like it was no big deal, then it would seem more absurd.

>>21688847
strong lady hot
most strong lady in media woke trash
so i make my own
simple as

>>21688732
No, *I* turned her into an anime girl, because I didn't have enough information to know she wasn't.
I colored under the lines and made this...

>>21688868
I ain't knocking ya.

Later this year I will literally be writing a BDSM fetishist. You do you m8.

>>21684133
Iron Widow was literally written by a chinese woman after watching Darling in the Franxx

>>21688872
...and Stable Diffusion turned it into this.

>>21688742
Take it to r/gatekeeping

>>21688877
did she fix the ending?

>>21688521
>with family interrupting?
tell em to go away you're jerking off

>>21688878
It would probably be pretty good for someone who doesn't have really specific ideas about how a character looks, or as a baseline to work off of for an artist. I've made repeated attempts to use SD and its kin, always coming out with the conclusion that it has flaws which I can't really accept as compared to paying some guy a hundo or two to get it exactly right to my anal specifications (like the proportions of the gun because it's based on a real firearm but uses larger cartridges and thus demands a bigger magwell)

>>21688881
what the fuck are you talking about

>>21688877
That doesn't inspire very much confidence, since Darling in the Franxx was garbage outside of Zero Two being exceptionally hot

>>21688732
That was a good read, thank you. Now that I think about it my two guys could be working for the SCP foundation and not even know it.
>>21688862
That would be funny to just mention out of nowhere. For this story I just wanted a guy doing horrible shit and whining about he was the real victim. I figured that was funny.

>>21688890
If you can afford to throw away a hundred here and a hundred there, more power to you.
My books sell so poorly, I didn't even deduct the Copyright Office fees this year, in order to avoid becoming an audit risk.

>>21688899
I recommend serializing your work on RoyalRoad and monetizing via advance content on Patreon, like 5-10 bucks for... I dunno, 20-50k words of advance content. Just write a bunch of short prog fantasy books and KEEP IT AS ONE FIC while using the Volumes function to differentiate the books.

then you can put those on amazon to leverage your existing fanbase, and end up disappointed by the fact it's infinitely more profitable to just do patreon than to try SELLING the books.

>>21688906
>tfw it's 2023 and people still don't know that monetizing novels on WN sites is infinitely more profitable than trying to sell something on amazon

>>21688916
yeah
I still put mine on amzn so my readers can get paperback copies but I have basically 0 expectation to make any real money off it, that's all patreon

>>21688906
>>21688916
Even if you get 10 patreons to subscribe 5 bucks a month for a single month, you'll have made more than if you would have sold a book on amazon

>>21688922
and those patreons will have come far more easily than single purchases on amazon

>>21688920
Was about to chime in. I like having physical copies for books so that's a plus with Amazon.

>>21688916
I'm waiting for WN to get back to me on what I'm writing. Don't think I'm a write fit for their format (4k+ chapters), but they reached out to me so eh.

>>21688922
Yeah, basically--and I wouldn't say that's even a hard goal to achieve if you really put the work in. I've seen plenty of authors on sites like Webnovel with shit quality prose making enough money from patreons and donations to comfortably live off of their writing. You may have to write a genre that carries with it less prestige than lit fiction, but you can definitely make a living off of writing in 2023

>>21688932
Webnovel reaches out to almost anyone. You CAN make quite a lot of money working for them, but it's basically a pure wagie type employment and you have no rights to anything you write for them.

>>21688916
WN?

>>21688936
>>21688932
They'll also try to fuck you if you fail to keep up their demanded writing rates and such. Demands of repayment for past payments, etc. If you don't continue your story or get fired, they'll assign one of their bugmen to continue it for as long as it has readership. Chink site, just go RR+Patreon.

>>21688936
That's fine with me.

>>21688944
Got stories?

>>21688694
It was great. I read the whole thing out loud to my friends, and you got 5 people to laugh their asses off.

>>21688950
None myself because I was warned away from it, but it's the same story every time I've spoken to anyone about it. It can be good if you go in knowing what you're in for, but it's not what 99% of writers are looking for.

>>21688936
>you have no rights to anything you write for them
They can have my slightly above average cultivation novel that I wouldn't really be able to monetize elsewhere anyways

>RR+Patreon
Royal Road can be good, but I feel like it's harder to monetize on there, and the readerbase is smaller. It's definitely a good option if you can get high on trending and start monetizing, though

>>21688936
>>21688966
Royal Road experience did not work out at all. Absolutely abysmal. Like, 2-5 people read it before I shared it with the boys in /sffg/. Murdered my drive for a while.

>>21688970
That's weird. Did you just dump the whole thing all at once?

>>21688916
I know that it's more profitable to serialize work on RR and similar sites, but that feels... cheap. It feels like that detracts from the sanctity and value of the work, if that makes any sense. It goes from being "This is a professional novel with literary merit" to "Just more internet trash." That's not literally true--the content / quality of the book doesn't change the moment you serialize it online--but it feels like it cheapens it.

>>21688973
Not at all. It's not like I expected much but holy shit.

>>21688970
>>21688973
>>21688981
Also, that was after a few months.

>>21684232
>>21684271
>>21684291
>>21684470
>>21686546
Thanks for taking the time to read it, guys. It's nice to know I've got something to work with.

About the foil thing, I was thinking more of a small bag made from the same stuff they make survival blankets from, which in a few layers should block a phone signal. Obviously that didn't come across. I re-wrote that paragraph twice (in fact it was the only part I really did any editing to) because I could feel it wasn't working, but I guess I should have just deleted it entirely.

>>21688970
I'd say you need to have a decent amount of understanding of the website to do well on RR. A lot of it comes down to gaming the system there. Posting at certain times to maximize visibility, etc. I remember having 10 followers on the first chapter of a novel I posted by the time I woke up in the morning. A lot of it came down to when I posted it, as well as having goo d cover art and a well-written synopsis (and obviously the quality of the writing was well above the site's standard). It also helps to be involved with the community on the forums, etc. since you can gain a lot of visibility that way.

>>21688003
I've got a plan of action.
>Delete conversation and account.
>Change name
>Bills only show money shared around, from me to them. Can't exactly pin anything on me.
>Fake art imitating the style of this person to redirect.
>Covertly try to get the artist banned, best case scenario is they quit.

>>21688991
fuck ever talking on the RR fourms. those people are legit mouth breathers

>>21688979
anon
RoyalRoad is run by people who might actually give half a fuck when you get a malicious review and possibly even remove it, and the site has regular writing contests

your fic has to get reviewed and approved by moderators and WILL get tossed if it's straight up smut or unreadable

compare and contrast to jewazon, a literal automated system where anything can get published

>>21688996
>fic
nani

>>21689006
fiction. story. book. etc.

>>21688979
>It feels like that detracts from the sanctity and value of the work
Many of the most celebrated novels of the 19th and 20th centuries were serialized in newspapers before being published in the novel format. There's not a whole lot of difference between that and the modern web-novel. The reality of the situation is that if you genuinely care about writing, you should want to find a way to live off of it. Traditional publishing is not only very hard to get into, in most cases you'll make less money than popular authors monetized on the internet. Writing webnovels also doesn't mean that you can't be traditionally published later. Use your webnovel writing to hone your skills and become someone that can easily get published. There's a lot of value in the consistency and discipline that writing on a schedule to keep up your rates brings

>>21688991
yeah, i'm not doing that
i want to write, not play this wack ass website meta

>>21688995
Not completely untrue, but you can still get them to read your novel fairly easily. What do you think your average reader is going to be?

>>21689017
my average reader is some dude who'll drop the story at chapter 1 because it isnt isekai. thats every reader on RR. then they come up with million excuses as to why theyre not reading it or speedread and comment dumb questions

>>21689020
If I have to give Webnovel one thing, it has more than isekai on it.

>>21689022
>>21689020
I'm not sure where you got the idea that RR is just isekai but that's plain wrong

1642 words is decent for a day's work, right? I'm still fiddling with how to start the story. I may have leaned too far into explicitly narrated.

Something like February 2013

It was about a year after the apocalypse started when I kicked in the door to my brother’s apartment. That was why I was in that godforsaken city when I met up with the Green Oasis people, but I’m getting a little ahead of myself. Like any good storyteller, I’m doing my best to start the story as close to the end as I can get, but I have to start with apartment room 2A of Caravan Apartment Building. I have nothing good to say about the city. It’s all well and good that the people who choose to live there love it and treat the university like a cult. Technically, I was supposed to be part of the cult too, since my brother was enrolled in their business school but suffice to say, it wasn’t for me.

Apartment 2A was walking distance to campus, which meant the rent rivaled New York City, the floorboards had all warped from spilled beer, and the leasing office liked to cover up broken glass by taping mental health awareness posters over it. The locks had all been updated to digital keys that couldn’t be picked, but the door frame was going on sixty years old. My heel drove the deadbolt straight through it with a crack. The layout was a gnarled lump of rooms twisted around the staircase to squeeze in some extra windows. The living area and kitchenette had been congealed together, separated by a skinny table more fit to be a bar counter than a dining room. I swept the room, from fridge to television, with my Mossberg 940.

Nothing moved, but the sweet scent of rot lingered in the air.

>>21689027
Go to the front page right now and tell me that again.

>>21689020
Neither of my novels were isekai and they did fairly well on RR, anon. One of them was even paranormal/sci-fi. People will read it if it's good, even if it's not one of the site's most popular genres

Evening fellas. Our service tech destroys our bathroom at work like nothing I've ever seen. I wrote a story about how it makes me feel. These threads always get me motivated. to write and then I doom scroll for six months. Thank you for anyone that wastes their time reading this. There's some other stuff on here from a previous Flash Fiction thread.

https://saddestvacantlot.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-far-bathroom-calls-my-name.html

>>21689027
isekai is overwhelmingly present on RR. It's as if people go to RR for isekai.

>>21688906
I don't have the time or energy to write at that pace...I have a day job.

>>21689038
Sure.

>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/64318/island-core
Not isekai.

>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/64066/primordial-ascension-sybil-a-litrpg-adventure
Not isekai.

>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/63922/noblebright
Not isekai.

>>21689047
It's one of several predominant genres on the site, but that doesn't mean you won't have success if you don't write it. More important than isekai or even litrpg is a sense of tangible progression for the protagonist, or "Progression Fantasy".

>>21688991
Looking to put some stuff up on RR. What kind of things would you recommend about posting times and such?

>>21689053
>its not isekai
>its LITRPG
sick of you retards pretending theyre any different

>>21689053
>just three stories
>One's a litrpg
Anon, please.

>>21689056
Goalpost shifting isn't a good look anon

>>21689056
Consistent schedule, after 5pm burger time. Most of your readers will be burgers.

>>21689063
I can't be fucked to do more combing-through and yes, litrpg is not in fact isekai

>>21689056
I haven't used RR in a while, so I'm not sure what the best times are anymore; but you should watch how long novels are able to stay at the top of the recently updated list for certain time slots. I usually posted around 7-8pm PST. You can also put your novel in your forum signature and shill that way. Just respond to a bunch of slow threads and plenty of people will see your novel

>>21689060
Those two genres are drastically different, anon

>>21689075
Are you being serious right now?

>>21689077
Yes? Have you actually read them?

Is it possible to find success on RR without writing isekai and litrpg.

>>21689075
theyre the same fucking thing retard. same story beats, same cliches, same tropes, everything. just because one has stats and the other doesnt, does not make them different. in fact, those things are interchangeable since there are isekais with litrpg stats screens. same with fucking fantasy, being merged within this disgusting blob of uncreativity. every story within the genre is goyslop and i read it all so i could tell people like you that you are wrong

>>21689098
Yes. You can also do cultivation or "Progression Fantasy".

Prog Fantasy is solely defined as having the protagonist progress in capability throughout the story. Nothing else. Just add [Progression Fantasy] to your title.

Doing a bit of writing, mostly for fun. Ignoring the fantasy trope hell in here, I'm trying to work on character voice, any advice on how to make these guys sound unique? I feel like the second two feel to similar to each other but I don't know why

New thread >>21689127
but feel free to finish up this one...

>>21689105
This shit is so retarded, why did the Internet collectively decide to make this a "genre?" It's not a genre, it's just a trope in the fantasy genre, and the majority of fantasy books already feature it so it's weird that people want to read books solely based on whether the character gets more powers or not.

>>21689132
Because net.people like their video games.
Did you notice the trend of people watching videos of other people playing games?
This goes along with that.
I don't get it either.

>>21689009
I started to think you had a point, but then I saw RR was nothing but anime shit, litrpg Isekai goyslop, no way I'm associating anything I write with that. It's completely false to pretend like these sites are even remotely the same as having your work serialized in a reputable newspaper.

In closing, I just want to say that I would rather be here, with all of you, than with the finest people in the world.

>>21689150
What's a newspaper?

>>21689150
Very well, then go unread and die unknown.

>>21689150
No problem. You can join the ten thousand other aspiring writers on the amazon marketplace trying to write something "serious" that nobody cares about. In the meantime, I'll be practicing and writing what you consider shit so I can turn writing into a full-time job and justify spending the time to become truly good at it

I have spent ten minutes on this site today. That is far too long. I must have lost a good 1000 words at this point.
Bye fuckos.

For a fantasy book, it's inevitable that the first few chapters have a bit too much worldbuilding dump, right?
I fear my readers might find it boring, but there's stuff I need to explain before addressing the main plot.

>>21689523
I try and have it make sense. They're going to a magical institution, so everything being introductory is part of the story and the setting. Brief history of events explaining magic, why everyone seems to be from a different place, and other stuff? History class orientation. Questions the audience may have are asked or figured out by the protagonists wondering the same.

>>21689523
No, that's lazy and dreadfully dull. Have the plot start and drop little nuggets of worldbuilding as you go. You're writing a story, not an encyclopedia entry.

>>21689537
>They're going to a magical institution, so everything being introductory is part of the story and the setting.
Harry Potter does great job of this, and it's not what you said. Actually the intro to the first Harry Potter book is excellent. The reader doesn't find out 'wizards' are officially a thing until at least 10k words in.

>>21689549
>Harry Potter
eww

>>21689523
You're supposed to have a story and at least one character. You need to dump lore relevant to it, not all your fantastic overextended rants about your imaginary world.

>>21689561
Yes, it's a children's book that sorta blew up bigger than it should have and then rowling was forced to expand it and the whole thing ran away as a result, but the first book's introduction is great.

I honestly find it stupid to go on RR with a novel that isn't a LitRPG specially made for the connoisseurs of such shit. You aren't going to find any readers if you post historical fiction, horror or topical science fiction. There should be other places to post your work. Unfortunately, I don't know of any.

>>21689065
>Consistent schedule,
I'd say consistent DAY but vary the time of posting. You might catch people from different timezones as they see your story in the just posted section.

>>21689102
litRPG has stats. Isekai is transferring to a new world. It doesn't matter if they overlap in other areas. Story beats, cliches, and tropes come up in all fiction, but you wouldn't call Star Wars an isekai.
>goyslop
It's amateur fiction. Big corporate publishers wouldn't touch it. That's the opposite of goyslop.

>>21684669
It's a modern-day level of technology in a fantasy world, but there's nothing magical about it, so I said alternate history. Sorry for the jumble of genres lol

>>21688668
Scrivener, backed up on OneDrive.

Hey guys, I want to write an isekai and ChatGPT is down. What's a kind of isekai that hasn't been done yet?

>>21684026
looks cool, I'd change hte last name tho

>>21686257
bane?

>>21688668
I write all my human man on female anthro softcore smut in markdown using Vim. It's actually got spell-checking and if you set it up nicely it works very well as a prose editor even with no extensions whatsoever.

>>21684026
Cute

>>21687209
It's prob a worthless battle mate, graphic design is subject to an absolute lack of heart. Pick any movie, series, ad, etc. — its marketing is more than likely going to look corporate as fuck. Music and vidya aren't as entrenched in these problems thanks to the nature of their media, fortunately, so there MIGHT be hope for a design shift in book marketing in the coming years if someone were to fight for those changes, what with the industry being less reliant on visuals to push for its value.

>>21684309
You are a weak man.
Stop tolerating undesirable behavior from your woman.
Start small by praising her when she does something that you like. And politely inform her when she does something that you do not like.