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21644382 No.21644382 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it such a good investment? I mean most kids already go to school.

>> No.21644390

>>21644382
How does he know if he actually reads them and absorbs information ir just speed reads without any thought to get cash because 120 books in a year, even if they're only 160 pages are quite a lot.

>> No.21644392

>>21644382
That kid is just read marvel comics or some cartoon crap

>> No.21644404

The best investment ever is to teach your child to read for reasons of financial gain.

>> No.21644504

>>21644382
Twitter users love making up stories with their children. God bless them.

>> No.21644524

le reddit dad is the worst genre of internet posts

>> No.21644526

>>21644382
Reading is one of the few signifiers of neo-bourgeois culture. Only by being “well-read” can the white collar family distinguish itself from a grey, ex-proletarian servant class which in all essential material features is identical to the neo-bourgeoise. This is a ritual to initiate the child into nobility stripped of all noble features, an empty elitism with no meaning other than better-than. If the servant classes started discussing Dostoevsky, or even Andy Weir, the elite would do everything in their power to have them immediately liquidated.

>> No.21644536

>>21644390
>>21644392
He’s likely reading Zach Power and stuff like that with big letters and pictures. 160 pages of zach power if you have an IQ over 110 is very doable within one day

>> No.21644537

>>21644382
>he thinks he's ripping me off
The kid """read""" 120 books in 7 months.
Of course he's ripping you off you mong

>> No.21644538

>>21644382
School doesn't teach you shit. It's a scheme to keep track of the weirdos

>> No.21644546
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>>21644524
Imagine if your dad browsed reddit

>> No.21644554

>>21644546
imagine your dad is farming karma

>> No.21644557

>>21644526
You’re not smart or deep. Meds.

>> No.21644569

>>21644404
Uuuh, yeah. It ensures that they will forever associate reading with information-seeking for the purpose of profit, and avoid the risk of being pleasure-readers who might completely fuck up their lives by wanting to study literature, be writers, or even, most horrible of all, waste obscene amounts of time reading pointless books that basically just prevent them from spending the same time procreating and financially flourishing.
Unironically, great investment.

>> No.21644584

>>21644382
This post in itself is a subtle literary reference. You see, much like David Woodland is paying his child to read, Humbert Humbert gave Lolita money to suck his dick.

>> No.21644591

When I was a kid, I would just read. I never needed to be bribed.

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>>21644569
>Uuuh, yeah

>> No.21644609

>$1 incentive
What is this, 1953?

>> No.21644617

On top of improvimg th kids imagination and language skills, it also ensures a decent attention span.
I see a lot of people throwing shit in this thread but to me it seems fine desu, he just needs to check the kid actually reads and isn't playing him like a fiddle.

>> No.21644623

>>21644617
That's why >>21644584 is better, it's much harder for the kid to cheat.

>> No.21644644

>>21644617
>check the kid actually reads and isn't playing him like a fiddle
which he probably is, because that kid is reading 160 page books, 120 a year. I barely get through 5 of them

>> No.21644662

>>21644382
He probably got the kid a library card and is essentially disguising the cost price of a book to the kid. It's like buying eggs in Sicily for 1c with your shell company in Malta and resell them to yourself for seven cents, and then resell them to your Tuscan end customer at 5c, for a profit of 4c and a declarable tax loss of 5c. It's all profit really, so long as you feed the kid fruit whenever it asks too many questions.

>> No.21644690

>>21644662
oh yeah. your example really cleared things up.

>> No.21644697

>sit with a book in front of the tv
>watch tv but with face tilted towards book
>turn the page every minute or two
>yep finished another book, mom.
>what was it about? Uh... there was a guy... named David... and he like... went on an adventure... and got a magic stone... and he had a pet... uh... bat.

>> No.21644701

>>21644382
He's exploiting the kid and should be charged with child abuse and have his son taken away from him. You think I'm joking but I am not. It takes about 4 hours to read 120 pages minimum. At best Woodland is paying him 25 cents an hour effectively making his son work full time in addition to school. He is not creating an opportunity but depriving him of free time. Mcdonald's pays $15 an hour and had he worked there instead, he would have made $7500 instead of $120 and if he invested it in dividend rich stock, he'd be making $120 every four months. The father doesn't care about the welfare or education of his child or financial wellbeing of his child. Hundreds of hours of reading mundane crap with neck bent over suffering permanent health consequences for pennies per hour. Ruined this kids life and his neck for nothing.

>> No.21644707

>>21644701
>putting your money in stonks before a major recession
you're even more retarded than this dad forcing his kid to read goyslop. he should have just raped the kid like he wanted instead of letting the state rape his mind with subversive YA written by trannies and evil women who want to destroy the male spirit.

>> No.21644709

>>21644707
It was simply a counter, not prescriptive advice. The only thing I advocate in this situation is reporting the parent and having the child taken away.

>> No.21644712

>>21644709
the parent no longer controls the child anyway. hence the need to play monetary games. the state owns the child's head after a few years of school programming. he's well on the way to becoming a tranny. giving the child over to the state in an official capacity is redundant

>> No.21644714

>>21644662
No more uppers for you buddy.

>> No.21644743

>>21644644
160 pages a day is nothing for a kid. I did that. And yes, now I also barely read 10 books per year.

>> No.21644755

>>21644662
Nice don't see Catch-22 mentioned here too often

>> No.21644778

>>21644701
He’s not “exploiting” the kid, it’s a suggestion for him to improve on a valuable life skill
Yeah the rewards system is ridiculous but I had an ex whose mother would give her “points” for speaking to her in her native French and not English. It’s shitty parenting but you can kind of see what vantage point people like him and my ex’s mother approach it from

>> No.21644824

>>21644778
how is it shitty parenting? it's just gamification and frankly it sets real objectives instead of vague bars you have no idea how to clear or why. I wish i had that growing up instead of yelling psychos who just tell me I'm shit no matter what. that certainly wasn't conducive to healthy development.

>> No.21645070

>>21644824
gamification is retarded and disrupts normal motivation. the kid will likely never read a book once the parent stops paying, if he's even reading them now and not just pretending (because the point is the reward, right?)

>> No.21645096

>>21644824
>it's just gamification
You mean one of the most damaging aspects of modern times that has led to younger people having zero motivation and the disruption of naturally rewarding activity?

>> No.21645107

>>21644701
>the kid reads a quarter of a page every hour
I know this is bait but the idea of a kid reading a quarter of a page every hour and getting his dollar every four hours of backbreaking mental labor is so fucking funny hahahhahahaha

>> No.21645129

>>21645096
Elaborate on how it's so damaging? If anything it is basically a system to make clear goals as well as plans on how to achieve them

>> No.21645212

>>21644382
I think this is brilliant

>> No.21645240

>>21644382
This is the same as giving your kid junk food because they did something you want. This eventually tuns into them using fast food as a dopamine hit in adulthood. It's not GOOD. STUPID PARENTS.

>> No.21645251

>>21645129
It associates the behaviour not with the intrinsic enjoyment of it, but with the expectation of an external gain. Once the external gain ceases to be present, as it inevitably will be, you are less likely to do the activity, not more. This is because you get a dopamine reward at the time you receive the extrinsic incentive, which you come to expect. In the absence of said reward, the activity will feel less gratifying and the person will feel less motivated to engage in it.

>> No.21645273

>>21644593
Uhmmm, you're chinese.

>> No.21645331

>>21645273
North Korean, yeah.

>> No.21645360

>>21645251
thats not even how the brain works. all your body will remember is that its pleasurable to read. its called secondary conditioning. stop being such a pseud

>> No.21645365

>>21645107
I said he makes about a quarter an hour assuming standard reading speed not that he reads a quarter page an hour. It wasn't bait. What the parent is doing is child abuse and they should be charged with it accordingly and lose custody of their child to the state.

>> No.21645435

>>21645360
lol, this retard thinks he can use pavlovian conditining to make himself read

>> No.21645452

>>21645435
addiction works through habit formation you utter cretin. you're the one who's never picked up on a book, but you'll still throw around words like 'dopamine' because you saw it on twitter, even though you have zero clue about the mechanisms behind it.

>> No.21645533

>>21644778
Yes he is exploiting the child. I can also offer his child a reward in my coal mine or factory for a mere $0.25 an hour an he will learn "valuable life skills" like time management and operating heavy equipment. And the child would also find it an interesting experience too. The fact remains he's being woefully undercompensated for the time he is putting in. The parent should be paying him $15 an hour minimum, then it would possibly be cause to fill his mind and squander his childhood with mundane books. $60 per book read is fair and would enable the child to buy his own books to read without coercing. The parent should be charged with child abuse and is an awful parent for paying a mere dollar for every book read.

>> No.21645570

>>21645452
so your theory is that monetary payment causes the brain to associate the pleasure of payment with the action done to receive the payment, so that, like, janitors will over time become addicted to cleaning toilets and you can just stop paying them and they will still clean the toilets for fun? which books did you read exactly to arrive at this?

>> No.21645588

>>21645570
apples and oranges. positive reinforcement absolutely works on children. what the fuck principle do you think games like WoW work on, which are 99% unpaid work

>> No.21645605

>>21644382
My father would pay me to read books if I wrote a summary as well.

I was too lazy to do any though.

>> No.21645637

>>21645588
>apples and oranges. positive reinforcement absolutely works on children.
that's why they all become addicted to mowing lawns, right? they just can't stop mowing lawns even after you stop paying them, because their brains have been tricked into thinking that it's "pleasurable to mown?" games with heavy incentivization work because the incentivization never ends, it's the incentivization that people are addicted to. the child will like money, not reading.

>> No.21645932

If my dad were Too Online, getting heated in the replies and shit like that, I think he'd be dead within the month. He fucking spazzes out so hard at minor shit, it's embarrassing. Winding up olduns online has to be one of the funniest premises there is.

>> No.21647114

>>21644382
Pay your kid to solve maths problems and optimise household inefficiencies. Pay your kid to learn rhetoric and argumentation, etc. They will be incentivised into learning how to optimally communicate information, which is a requirement for being able to Read, let alone write. Don't send them to school at all.

>> No.21647390

>>21644382
His kid read 120 books?

>> No.21647403

>>21647114
this is right on the money and actually this is what school is going to be before you know it.
AI bots teaching kids and giving them gamer points to beat the class.

>> No.21647719

I think paying your kid to read is pretty dumb, because reading is a fruitful activity in and of itself. Making reading a job with external incentives just creates and strengthens the misconception that reading is an undesirable activity that you need to be compensated for.
What my dad did was have me pick out a few library books that I was interested in, and then he'd add a few classic books to the stack. The thought of soliciting a bribe from him never crossed my mind as far as I can recall. If it did, my dad probably shut that notion down before my neurons had time to commit it to memory.
Years later, it doesn't even matter that I hardly remember the contents of many of the books I read. The act of reading a lot of tried and true works built my vocabulary and reading comprehension skills to the point where I was reading at a 12th grade level in second or third grade. Even now I retain a high level of reading skill, despite not reading nearly as often as I used to.
As an aside, reading 120 books is entirely possible within a year. I used to read 6-12 books every two and a half weeks. Kids have a lot more free time and mental energy than adults do. And I couldn't cheat it, since my dad would test me if he thought I skimmed a book.

>> No.21647753

>Protestants
> This one book is the most important thing

>Post-Protestant atheists
>Books in general are the most important things

>> No.21648088

>>21647390
Not that hard to believe, if the books are meant for children