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Did any Catholics exist within the Traditionalist School or did they all convert to Islam eventually?

>> No.21640619

>>21640487
>did useful idiots for the vatican convert to a slightly gayer religion of useful idiots for the vatican

>> No.21640638

>>21640487
The so-called Traditionalist School is actually a modernist syncretism. It is incompatible with genuine tradition, and it is incompatible with the Truth. It is impossible to follow Guenon and Christ.

>> No.21640644

Borella, no?

>> No.21640647

Perennialism would be considered a heresy in Catholicism so no

>> No.21640658

>>21640638
Good and true post.

>> No.21640678

i would suggest approaching Oliver Stone's opus chronologically both in the macro and micro scale, I mean watch his first film -- the one that came out into the multiplex in the year furthest away from the current year -- and start on the first scene working slowly towards the last one. I have read many books and watching many movies using this method. cheers stay healthy out there, numbers rising up again. got to be careful about the delta variant, well anyway heading down to denny's now with friends. I play bingo with them there on Monday nights sometimes we also order something to eat but normally not only if im hungry I normally order the country fried steak, it reminds me of the hungry man meals I used to eat when I was depressed ... tom Brokaw was still alive then, damn even Tim russert, I mean ,,, meet the press man. he really held politicians feet to the fire. anyways denny's cuisine reminds me a lot of hungry man days except for the cowboy chopped steak it's on the value menu for 8.99 dollar now that's a good deal you really get the value for your buck at denny's when you're there, it's like you're family but wait LOL that+s already a slogan for another restaurant chain the Olive Garden my grandfather once told me about the difficulties of marriage we used to vibe together in Virgin record stores he introduced me to Led Zeppelin I really like Immigrant Song although I sure don't like immigrants well anyways sorry, im getting a bit off track that happens sometimes sorry , .my friends at Dennys are late to the party and my tummy is very hungry now I haven't eaten anything since yesterday been temporarily light due to the construction boss laying me off i accidentally showed up to work drunk and made a fool of myself by wetting my pants but I mean, come on ,, we all have our problems. I don*t think it was appropriate to fire me for this reason , it's not like I hurt anyoneI wanted to ask you about some Dale Earndheardt merchandise my granddaughter is just the biggest fan ,.. I just wanted to announce to everyone that I will be joining the bingo game late because my other friends are stuck in traffic jams there seems to be a problem on west 9th street, basically a small crash I will be joining the game late very concerned about my friends. one said he needed to go to the gas station before but didn't make it in time hopefully the gas will last enough to Denny's thanks and keep me updated my mobile data hasn't been so good lately, a bit "on the fritz" as my daddy said

>> No.21640682

like my pappy was I am loud proud and stand my place and defend the bodies of my thought and oh my god we have already been on a whirlwind tour though the whole gamut of issues this evening ... I think what what really inspired me this evening was the Bill Paxton moments of transformation tin the final scenes of Twister, his wholedully serrated timidisnouss transmutuates into the big face of a man when he grabs the rubber pipe to save himself and alliterative queen Helen Hunt ... and the moment when they both upside down like fireworks at a fairground let their feet dangle above their heads and view the dual twisters as they jangle with God's ear tempo above their realm is so powerful .... goddamn it moves me LOL I get goosebumps just thinking about it ... makes me understand that guy bannister's clan in Baton Rouge was already damned to failure ... hmm. .... one people think that animals because they can't talk lack any soul and brains and guts and determination well well well try telling that to a hunter on a bad day LOL animals are very smart shit, there are some rabbits and other little varmints grand pappy and me tracked down in the steppes of Indiana, Litchfield's little "league" baseball dungeon near the bleacher of Mr. Washler's storefront those were the days I tell you...."summertime and the living is easy" - Gershwin just like that..a bit of sports and a bit of bonding at the pool. when my mother was preparing the fruit salad my father found the jukebox (Jules McMaster gave it to him as a gift for parting prom ritual, pappy had to hide the jukebox from mommy because it would make her jealous and also remind her of the ice-creaming tinted desk reclusion of the penultimate eventide shrovetide fair Stravinsky like whiskey serialism Cold War days, boy even as children we never forgot McCarthy - have you no bane? LOL my grandson would get that joke he watches super hero movies...well I#m off to denny's to play bingo..stay healthy and boars are pesky varmints that with Bia phage the arenas of blessed solitude .. just like my WIFE LOL a man just can't have his peace can he? well take it easy friends, well have to continue this conversation after I win at bingo LOL my friends get jealous of me when I win at bingo at denny's, shit I seen one of them who tried to spit in my food! while I was out for a cigarette with thunder thighs..makes you wonder who you're real friends are in this crazy world .... I guess it's the people that care and love about you like a tree hugs a valley in a hard storm Bill Paxton was very much like a tree, I know Bill Paxton very much. I am a fan of his early work now the scenes that are thematically emergent after the establishment of the Wakitian prologue are of better quality, cut from a better like daddy would say I mean Philipp Seymour Hoffman was a great actor in his own right so goddamn man that bloody scene where the hubcap rips open his forehead in the garage while the bigass twister rips away the movie screen

>> No.21640686

I just gutted the WHOLE lowdown on Guy Bannister's methadone henchmen straight out of LAKE Ponchetrain, reminds me of when pappy did them in by throwing methadone bag into LAKE, pappy was a veteran Andy Williams singing the important song wow... cannon fire and loud noises wow fireworks ... just in completely awe, very nuch a proud moment for pappy!! Well I guess ill go to denny's now with friends, I always order the "Nashville Hot Chicken Melt";, on the menu it says Golden-fried chicken breast tossed in Nashville hot sauce with Swiss cheese, tomato, pickles and mayo on grilled Texas toast, accompanied by wavy cut fries (or upgrade to seasoned fries, beer-battered onion rings or seasonal fruit) I always loved Dennys such a bang for ya BUCK LOL ... Well you know that reminds me of what grand pappy used to spout off all wild and sea bass fish like from the gaffe boat part after he'd done had some Schlitz and cigarettes: them Huns is peckerwoods! Just like us pecker pecker pecker pecker suckin' peckerwoods...each and every last one of them God made us all equal except for the Huns Huns are righteous and will not even allow the bull nab to put a fire to it when it's dirty shit man isn't that the truth? ?? We got lucky that victory came so easily it was time to dance and smoke cigarettes after the war i remember Andy Williams and Ann Margaret in Branskon Missouri near the riverwalk singing the anthem with eyes welling full of sloppy tears for the boon of the notion, the nation very nuch a proud moment for grand pappy whose father was an infantry man for the Queen's army delpoyed inspa to push back the Krauts man shit that must have been crazy ...parachuting Krauts in the countryside, heroism at stake for the sake of a uncle Sam giving you a pat in your young man's Back ... Wow ... Simply in awe SIGNED SCOTT

>> No.21640697

Jean Borella, Pierre Prévost, Cristina Campo, the list goes on

>> No.21640724

>>21640487
Wolfgang Smith

>> No.21640796

>>21640724
Wolfgang Smith is not part of the Traditionalist School. He is not a perrenialist. He's a traditional Catholic.

>> No.21640830

>>21640697
>Jean Borella
Dubious orthodoxy.
>Cristina Camp
Also dubious orthodoxy, considering her affiliation with Zolla

>> No.21641015

>>21640487
Traditionalism is crypto-Islam. Change my mind.

>> No.21641038

>>21641015
I could, but then you'd be wrong.

>> No.21641329

Rama Coomaraswamy. He wrote some great books on the topic too. Also /lit/ hates Traditionalism now so don't bother asking here.

>> No.21641340

>>21640638
This. It's funny that Guenon thought it possible to follow Muhammed and something that contradicts the teachings of Mohammed.

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>>21640697
Cristina Campo was cute

>> No.21642172

>>21641340
>>21640638

hol up so you be saying Guenon wasn't a genuine muslim?

>> No.21642683

bump

>> No.21643264
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>>21640487
So he says in his early books that Catholicism is the solution to the crisis of the modern West. He even goes as far to say that he knows that there are probably some traditional strains of Catholicism out there, but he simply did not encounter it IRL.
In fairness, he lived and wrote his books in a weird time of Catholicism and the 'traditional strain' did not become apparent until Vatican II with Marcel Lefebvre, after Guenon passed away.

You will want to start with Rama Coomaraswamy's book (picrel). The crucial part to understand is how and why normie Catholicism is not Traditional.

>> No.21643284

>>21643264
Hold up, I thought Coomerswamy was a Hindu? I don't remember him ever writing a book on Catholicism.

>> No.21643311

>>21643284
its his son
who read his father's entire works, guenon's entire works, studied for a little under Schuon, and deeply immersed in the Traditionalist school

>> No.21643340

>>21643284
but on the topic of Ananda Coomaraswamy, he commented quite a bit on Catholicism. His basic position is that if the West were to RETVRN to Catholicism, all of their modernity problems would disappear overnight.

If you search for 'Western Vedanta', he lays out in an essay which Western authors to read if you want to become /Vedanta/pilled through a Westoid POV

>> No.21643352

>>21643311
>>21643340
thanks Dago

>> No.21643360

>>21643352
good luck
rama coom/core/ is extremely redpilling stuff

>> No.21643423

>>21640638
Wrong, Guenon’s concept of Traditionalism doesn’t involve syncretism

>> No.21643458

>>21640638
>The so-called Traditionalist School is actually a modernist syncretism.
this, they have more in common with french estructuralism than an actual iniciatic tradition

>> No.21643947

>>21643360
wasn't there a Traditionalist Chart? I swear I saw it around here once

>> No.21644341

>>21640678
>>21640682
>>21640686
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