/lit/ - Literature

>reads book
>is exhausted by the notion that reading stories requires that you imagine a setting
ngmi

>>21624647
>MC is on a quest to save all beauty in the world
OP:
>Why does Tolkien keep going over all the beauty in the world?
Really makes you think.

>>21624664
Why read at all? Why not just watch fucking movies if you love images so fucking much.

>>21624664
>>21624665
>they're on a meadow
>now they're beside a creak
>now they're beside a creak underneath trees
>now they're on a ravine
>now they're on a meadow again but the sun is down
wow so visionary

>>21624647
Yeah, its nice. Probably the most effectively escapist aspect of the book

>>21624676
It's not visionary or groundbreaking, but its pleasant and evocative. LotR isn't some incredible masterpiece but its nice

>>21624682
>LotR isn't some incredible masterpiece
fans would be in stark disagreement

>>21624647
and its beautiful

>>21624676
OP, I've destroyed lots of people in online arguments, and you won't be the last. It's ok to move on.

>>21624707
okay I'm scared now I'll leave this thread

>>21624695
Yes, i know a lot of the fans are pretentious and obnoxious, that doesn't stop the books being enjoyable to me.
It seems to me that you need to more coherently think about what you wish to discuss and criticise in this thread, the fanbase or the book itself, or both but you'll need to make some separation clear

>>21624733
Lotr is probably the only good book published in modernity

>>21624707
You are gay

>>21624736
Define modernity. Regardless, what you said isn't true because it was published the same year as lolita, which is better. That statement mightve been true if LotR was published last decades but there were still good books being published through the 60s-80s

>>21624779
Haha. Lolita better? You're all flash no horses.

>>21624647
The Hobbit is such a great book for it. I really think it's the DragonBall to the Silmarillion's DBZ. The Hobbit is truly an adventurous fantasy book for kids, but one that takes kids seriously enough to give them a real book. It has long winded passages just describing nice countryside, but it still has the dragons and the goblins and wizards and battles and all of that shit. Just a great book. I loved LotR too, but in retrospect it just feels like Tolkiens dive into the mythos almost killed the fantasy genre. Everyone had to one up Tolkien and make an even more autistically realized fantasy world, but the cost of that is sucking out the whimsical bullshit that makes The Hobbit feel like a real adventure in mysterious, made up lands. Unironically almost the exact image of what made DragonBall a great show and what led DBZ down the path of becoming a near parody of absurd action anime at the same time it was the progenitor of much of what came later.

>>21624736
Is this a good book?

>>21624647
I can always tell who hasn't read Tolkien based on this comment. The majority of The Lord of the Rings is dialog.

>>21625171
The Hobbit is the only book which its majority is not describing scenery

>>21624779
>lolita, which is better.
lfmao

>>21624838
Excellent analogy.

>>21624799
>>21625202
sorry anons, prose form and exploration of the world as it is through a disturbed mind is worth more than fantasy escapism which relied on the rise of popular culture and infantilisation of tastes to become influential
Verification not required.

>half the thread is just OP being a faggot

>>21625242
That's not how that works. That doesn't make any sense at all

>>21624673
Because movies don't compare to my imagination.

>>21625396
I always know a work is good based on how pedantic the contrarians are when criticizing it.

>>21624647
Yeah you've gotta keep enough concentration to read through it. I had a hard time going past the first two chapters, then once you get used to it it's actually nice.

Filtered one of my ESL friends in highschool.

>>21624673
Confirmed for level 5 apple brain. .

>>21627638
You're right. I think almost exclusively in language. Even when I'm dreaming or on psychedelics there really isn't much of a visual component to my thoughts.

>>21624664
It's precisely because I can imagine a setting that I don't need the writer to describe it in minute, exhaustive detail

>>21624714
i'm scared too this is not good , later i'm gone

>>21624647
Unironically would be better if he cut way, way more dialogue. Up that from 50% to 75% scenery.

>>21628277
Do you have internal monologue?

>>21624647
this is exactly how my sister described it
she's a 22yo thot

>>21624647
And it’s great.

>>21628639
Sometimes, but I've done my best to drown it out with exhaustion and constant stimulation.

>>21627638
I'm 5. I really doubt there's an apple inside my head.

>>21624676
You are exaggerating. There are landscape descriptions but they are hardly the sole focus. There is still ample narrative present to drive the book.