/lit/ - Literature

>>21611529
silly meme. The reason
>thing, Japan
Is more appealing because you know it's protected by a country has it's shit together

>>21611529
nothing because japanese culture is actually superior

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54734B4601A97FC7

https://www.unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/

>>21611568
I can tell this is the classic "yeah Asians have higher IQs but Europeans are superior because of muh CREATIVITY!" cope.

>>21611554
Are we talking before or after the nuking?

>>21611571
>Europeans are superior because of muh CREATIVITY!" cope
How is it a cope if it's a reflection of objective reality?

>>21611583
lol wtf
how anyone could look at a chart like this and believe it is beyond me
goes to show just because you know how to read doesn't mean you're intelligent enough to understand what you're reading

>>21611590
>Europeans rule the world and are responsible for almost all of human advancement but Asians take muh test better.

>>21611666
Europeans dont rule the world. The jews do. Europeans are slaves just like the rest of the riff raffs.

>>21611769
And when i say jews i mean the merchants and the bankers

>>21611529
Sea of Fertility series

>>21611551
>a country has it's shit together
lmao

>>21611529
Silence, maybe?

>>21611790
Edgy

>>21611786
I dont think i can take this guy seriously after reading about his death. Though that could all be nonsense written to tarnish his names, i dont know, i havent looked into it yet.
Are the books good though?

>>21611792
Saw the film, its shit. Just like most of Scorseses. Is the book better?

No Longer Human

>>21611554
Hikkikonori culture started earlier there than in the West. They have sky high suicide rates, low marriage rates and the work culture is notoriously brutal. It sounds like all you know about Japan is anime.

>>21611529
The Japanese Mind

Negative aspects?
Are you speaking of cultural difference?
Plus: you assume any culture has purely "positive" aspects?

>>21612189
>>21612210
thanks. these look promising
>>21612216
are you retarded?
>Are you speaking of cultural difference?
no i mean negative aspects. like why they keep off ing themselves. why nobody is fucking. why they lock themselves in their rooms. why they all seem autistic. why they are obsessed with rules and hierarchy. why they put works above family. i am sure there are more.
>Plus: you assume any culture has purely "positive" aspects?
fuck off zoomer weaabo and stop assuming what i assume

There was a book detailing the hilarious antics Japanese police routinely employs to keep their crime rates so famously low. Its name eludes me, but I'm sure you'll find it quickly on Google. They do it all: routinely hide/dispose of found bodies, list everything as "suicide", harass rape/assault victims into keeping quiet, and just file cases and then sit on them for years doing nothing until the statutes of limitation run out.

It's hilarious how triggered weebs get every time someone points this out.

I don't think it's peculiar to Japan but Convenience Store Woman has some aspects

Shutting Out The Sun
I was an avid reader of his blog. He's a (((psychiatrist))) or something, but he has career-long observations working with neurotics in Japan. If you want a fast course in Japanese psychology, just befriend a Japanese person. Being in a Japanese family is like being born into a corporation. They will ask everything of you and then act like you don't exist. You don't exist.

t. dated a Japanese woman for 4 years.

>>21612279
The Japanese judicial system is also rigged against the defendant. Lawyers winning a not-guilty verdict for their clients is extremely rare.

>>21611529
Murakami's Underground is one of my favorite books. He interviews victims of the Tokyo sarin gas attack as well as members of the cult which did the attack (not the members who actually did the act). It paints a picture of the impact of the conformist aspect of Japan's society.

>>21612324
>t. dated a Japanese woman for 4 years.
What was it like?

>>21611551
>country has it's shit together
if you think japan has it's shit together, I know you've never fucking been there

>>21611583
How do they pick who's significant?

>>21611529
monkeydonia is bulgaria

>>21611583
>europe has the most significant europeans according in european history.

>>21611666
No, it's Jews. You said it yourself you neo Nazi

Insider

>>21612868
what board is this?

>>21612868
this is what breeding out adhd gets you

>>21611529
Macedonia?

>>21611529
literally any real book written by a japanese author that has wide acclaim

>>21611529
>>21612260
>negative aspects
>why they are obsessed with rules and hierarchy
Kek, I guess you deserve to live among niggers.

>>21611529
Imagine being this mad that another country's cultural exports are more popular than your own.
I bet you read superhero comics

>>21612896
>>21612914
why are weebs like this?
go cry into your wifu pillows you fucking cucks

>>21612279
>It's hilarious how triggered weebs get every time someone points this out.
I don't know why they'd be triggered when you haven't brought any proof.

>>21611529
Just admit that 1980s Japan was peak civilization.

>>21611551
>>21611554
The ultimate consoomers island! WOAH

I can understand why a nice country like Japan causes some people to rage when their own countrues look like this.
Meanwhile Japan has vending machines just hanging out on country roads, unguarded

>>21611571
Asians excel on standardized tests and cheat a ton.

>>21613267
>Asians excel on standardized tests
Which are usually good measures of intelligence.
>and cheat a ton.
Even if they cheat more than other races, that implies a moral failing, not an intellectual one.

>>21611580
kek'd

>>21612966
It's hilarious when people talk about those unsupervised stores in Japan and complain that they couldn't have those in their own cities. It's even funnier when you mention WHO would loot the shit out of these stores.

>>21611529
Probably some chink and gook shit where they whine about the Co-Prosperity Sphere. If Japan has anything bad about, its 100% worse in other asian countries. At most you can read economic hustory as to why they failed to be numbah 1 in the 80s.

>>21612279
Sounds based. Gonna be more of a weeb now.

>>21612279
Personally I prefer the Singaporean justice system.

>>21611790
>>21612799
Not that anon but what is happening in the land of the rising sun that is so bad? Doesn't it have the lowest crime in the world and excellent public services like transport etc?

>>21613630
and the highest suicide rate in the world, too

>>21613633
I mean sure that is a big red flag but isn't this mostly insane work and school culture? It isnt the entire story of a nation.

>>21613630
Japan is barely in the top 50 in world suicide rates and below a number of European and Asian countries. These kinds of arguments are Western cope, any social problem Japan has is also present there now but they also have higher crime rates thanks to their minority populations.

>>21613645
>mostly insane work and school culture?
this shit follows a person through their whole life, and it's a reflection of society as a whole. If you don't fit in, you're basically fucked.

>>21613630
The issue isn't what's happening over there, it's what's happening over here

>>21612799
Beneluxfag detected

>>21611529
The Railway Man, Eric Lomax.

>>21612878
explain

>>21613629
It's one of the few that understands the primal monkey part of human brains that receives a bigger impact from seeing consequences in public view

>>21612850
Europeans developed modern mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, philosophy, empiricism, capitalism, communism, fascism, trains, engineering, industrial machinery, trains, automobiles, flight, computers, space travel, the internet, etc. etc.

>>21612868
>less nationalist
>every joke about japan is taken personally
this isn't a serious person

>>21613715
>communism
I guess I hate europeans now

>>21611529
>ridiculous high suicide rate
>pressure and unnecessary unhealthy living condition to due cultural norms
>generally Japanese people don't want to be annoying so they talk as little as possible
>people there are always quick to help, but hesitant to make friends
>Hiroshima, Kawasaki, Fukushima and their consequences
>anime in general
>hentai especially
>weird sexual behaviours are part of everyday, normal sexual behaviours are becoming rarer
>men to women ratio is 95 to 100
>collectivism and individualism, yet the worst of both worlds
>food quality dropped, even traditional food has negative effects because of unhealthy amounts of sodium, causing stomach cancer in the long run
>wide-spread ignorance about other cultures, sometimes strange bastardization of it
>cultural apex was in 1999
I don't know a book that shits on all these aspects. there might be books for each of these points.

>>21613776
You have to respect japan because they went from primitive middle ages to modern almost!superpower in like, 100 years. They lost ww2 but if you look at their situation it's noble they even tried. They've been under the thumb of globohomo ever since, getting cucked out of the TRON computer os among many other things but they're trying and succeeding admirably at maintaining internal japanese cultural hegemony

>>21612957
consumerist culture was based in america until it became profitable to market to the lower races

>>21614014
Americans are the lower races.

>>21611551
>a country has it's shit together
Didn't realize going extinct due to abysmal birth rates equates to having their shit together.

>>21614020
cope

>>21612966
Who would steal anything but sunblock? Maybe that's the kind of person who creates the environment this store has to react to.

>>21613776
>ridiculous suicide rate
Fake news. They're 49th
>pressure etc.
No different than the rest of Asia.
>don't want to be annoying and talk as little as possible
Who cares? Better than being loud and annoying.
>Hiroshima, Kawasaki, Fukushima
Imagine blaming Japan for getting nuked.
>anime, hentai
You post this on an anime website.
>Weird sexual behaviors
The West reveres transexuals right now...
>M:F ratio
Who cares?
>collectivist and individualist, yet the worst of both worlds
I would argue the US is worse here but in a different way.
>food quality dropped, stomach cancer
US has horrible food quality and Japan's stomach cancer rate isn't out of line with other developed countries
>wide-spread ignorance of other cultures
Who cares?
>cultural apex in 1999
Pure opinion

All in all this list is mostly Western cope.

>>21613715
All Jews btw

>>21611571
>"yeah Asians have higher IQs but Europeans are superior because of muh CREATIVITY!"
Unironically true.

You know that meme about how Japanese just use Twitter for posting pictures of food and cats? Well, it's true. Because unlike the West, they don't really care about politics or religion at all. Even on their equivalent of 4chan, all they talk about is anime, manga, video games, or convenience store food (and occasional racism against Koreans). They never had an Enlightenment or a Locke, so the individual's capacity to learn truth via reason is just not a thing over there.

That's why Asia could have never produced a Shakespeare. All his work is predicated on identity and individual neuroses, they're fundamentally Western, have you EVER read a non-western novel with a character like Hamlet or Lear or Macbeth, where most of the conflict happens in their head? If you have, it's probably Western-influenced (like the golden age of Japanese novels).

Of course, asians are creative. They're just creative towards specific ends. Asking an asian to do philosophy or write a deep character though is pointless.

>>21611551
>has it's shit together
hahahaha

>>21612883
This. They're pretty self-loathing.
I like Naomi by Junichiro Tanizaki.

>>21614256
>creativity is when I post about le heckin politics and read materialist/bugman thinkers, not when I discuss art
Only on /lit/ lmao

>>21614285
They don't discuss "art", they talk about flavor-of-the-month moe anime. Unironically 0 difference from the people watching Netflix in the west, except that's all they do in Asia. They just consoom.

Also
>caring about politics/philosophy is bad
Maybe the materialist bugman... was you all along

Japan has lovely culture of traditional arts. I wonder if it will serve once Japan becomes a grave site in the far future.

>>21611529
I live in Japan and my cat is one of Japan's negative aspects because she thinks she owns my bed.

>>21614336
well, she does by the looks of it

>>21614309
Caring about politics and materialist thinkers is for plebs. Patricians occupy themselves with art and transcendental thinkers.

>>21614374
Art for asians is 100% escapism from their shitty jobs, although it wasn't always that way

>watch XY anime about teenagers/kids
>parents are literally never shown and implied to be at work throughout the whole day
UGH........ SOUL

>>21615053
that's most shows about teenager/kids in every country. How often do the parents in Recess or Peanuts show up?
Hell, Scream barely had parents in it.

>>21614336
your cat made this thread

>>21614050
>>21613657
a mystery for the ages

>>21613344
>that implies a moral failing, not an intellectual one.
>implying

>>21611529
>japanese culture
you mean their real culture or the culture they decided to export?

desu worst thing that I can name is their abysmal labor market. You're literally fucked both economically and mentally if you're not

-in a good university,
-in a good field like stem, law, financing or medicine,
-lucky enough to be selected by company headhunters during your senior term,
-asslicker enough to endure every mobbing and harassment of your seniors,

then you can, maybe, become one of those soulless salarymen.

I have been living in Nagasaki for the past 4 years and am married to a Japanese woman.
I'd say the worst part is the passivity and expectation to always be polite. It is seen as wrong to express frustration with somebody, even though they have done something to hinder or inconvenience one or multiple people. You would understand I'd you have ever driven in this country. You will have a two lane road with a bus stopped in the left lane, and a car trying to cross oncoming traffic in the right lane (no green arrows by the way). Traffic will be at a standstill, yet nobody will even consider giving a light honk of their horn.
My wife does little things like that which are annoying. It's a societal fear of any confrontation or expression of dissatisfaction. Very frustrating if you are at all emotional or tempered.

>>21611551
>Is more appealing because you know it's protected by a country has it's shit together
This. The difference between countries which haven't seen war (in terms of civil strife or invasion of their own soil) in many centuries and those which have faced regular occupations is massive. There is something deeply serene about the land whose soul has been safe to grow and notice its own subtleties. England is the same.

>>21613653
Sure it does. I am not discounting that. But it also doesn't necessarily affect every person or a majority in a way that makes society break down. They seem to function as a civilisation just fine.

>>21615447
>England has faced occupation in the last hundred years
I didn't realize the paki problem was that bad

>>21613731
the chinese take every joke personally too and will rally all of their fellow bugmen to boycott individuals or corporations for the slightest perceived offense
in comparison with that, the japanese certainly seem less nationalistic

>>21614256
>all they talk about is anime, manga, video games, or convenience store food (and occasional racism against Koreans). They never had an Enlightenment or a Locke,
Sounds like they have it worked out.

>>21611529
ryu murakami's a big one. dazai, soseki. endo. literally any japanese author. japan seems like a hypercapitalist hellhole. but at least they keep their women in check and are more intelligent than christcucks

>>21611583
lol @ iceland

>>21612896
>t. Whitey who has never been to Japan

You don't understand just how obsessed they are.

>>21611792
started to read but lost interest. will read if i ever want to think about faggot catholics getting murdered though. one very based aspect of japan, that it killed christfags on sight back in the day

>>21611556
OP asked for books.

>>21611529
Damn I would move to Macedonia in a heartbeat !!! Your meme is dumb. 4chan used to be an anime image board of just weebs and nerds but it’s more than that desu. Id much rather move to Greece than fucking Japan where nobody talks to each other unless they’re at a bar! Haha. Negative aspects of Japan? Man that’s such a question you could ask Google. Like what sort of book discourse nuance did you expect?

>>21616605
>didn't even open the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_I5fuF_dUo&list=PL54734B4601A97FC7&index=1

>>21616856
How do you manage to use a computer when you’re so retarded?