/lit/ - Literature

>>21594845
>Dialectal speak and inflections in writing are punished in schools.
And that's a good thing. Ebonics is cancer.

>>21594845
niggas do be speakin different tho

That golden age before the standardization of spelling really impacts me

I've been tempted to write as if there were no standardization .there are some nonstandard spellings that just made more sense to me

>>21594920
Just spell shit however you want
I always like phantasies, faery, edmund spenser type stuff

>>21594920
The way Spenser spells things just appeals to my verbal-conceptual faculty

The drouping Night thus creepeth on them fast,
And the sad humour° loading their eye liddes,
As messenger of Morpheus° on them cast
Sweet slombring deaw, the which to sleepe them biddes.
Unto their lodgings then his guestes he riddes:
Where when all drownd in deadly sleepe he findes,
He to this study goes, and there amiddes
His Magick bookes and artes° of sundry kindes,
He seekes out mighty charmes, to trouble sleepy mindes.

>>21594845
Oh no we can communicate better now! White people like spicy food now! Wtf is happening to culture I’m going mad AAHHHH WE HAVE TO GONBACK

to be honest even just early modern english sounds more lyrical. I think this language had a magic to it that it lost. But you can't really say that without coming across as a Grade A fedora nerd.

>>21594845
You sound like a depressed linguist. I think this attitude is dumb, considering the constant change, innovation, churn of language and varieties of language peculiar to social environments, the internet, occupations, age groups. The descriptive grammarian's lament for lost dialects and indigenous languages and similar obscure things vaguely strikes of a narcissistic desire to wear these collected things as intellectual trophies, to send signals of being cultured, to schemingly pad the resume, or follow other selfish motives... it's like how zoos preserve endangered animals which can no longer survive the changed environment. Yes, there's something noble about it, but also something unsettling. Decay and death are as much a part of life as growth and life. Languages, dialects, live and die.

>>21594845
You're just trying to piss me off. You've never been outside your shit town, have you? Dialects and local vernacular are fucking everywhere, probably more than there used to be. The only thing that was effected is the writing, and even that can be circumvented if you're writing fiction. If you think the losing thorn and the eth are the most tragic thing to happen to language, you're a moron.

>>21594845
This is what happens when nation states standardize vernaculars.
Shudras should know their local dialect, Vaishyas—multiple vernaculars, Kshatriyas & Brahmins—Latin, alongside their local vernacular.

>>21595812
You're very wrong.
>>21595742
Bad faith

>there are people on /lit/ right now who aren't from Yorkshire
Reet unsettling I tell'ee

>>21596391
the norf will rise again

>>21594845
dialects and non-standard language will always exist, it's just all internet slang and nigger ebonics now.

>>21594940
>creepeth
>findes
wtf, why does he use both spellings?

>>21596381
I'm not. Just in Germany there are 100 fucking dialects. Ever hear Boarisch?

it's a bit depressing learning foreign languages and seeing people use americanisms and import english words for concepts they already have in their own language, americans must be stopped

>>21596612
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_language#School
>With the spread of universal education, the exposure of speakers of Bavarian to Standard German has been increasing, and many younger people, especially in the region's cities and larger towns, speak Standard German with only a slight accent.

>>21596671
I was watching Dark and they use the term "time machine" in English. Why not just use the already existing German words? Fucking hell.

>>21594845
Stupid frogposter.

>>21598230
One of my teachers spoke such heavy boarisch that about halfway through the school year I realized that as a GSL I shouldn't be able to understand him at all. Neither I nor anyone else ever had to ask him to repeat himself. If it was dire as OP thought, there would be at least an issue in communication.

Besides all that, anyone can start speaking with a dialects vernacular if they want, but everyone complaining is a coward and won't bother.

>>21594845
There are no breaks on the globohomos running a train on you, you will be inseminated.

>>21596391
All the world is queer except thee and me, and I'm not so sure about thee

>>21595742
>Languages, dialects, live and die.
What's depressing is that they only die and new ones don't come into being due to mass communication, by the end of the 21st century there will be only standard languages left.
>The descriptive grammarian's lament for lost dialects and indigenous languages and similar obscure things vaguely strikes of a narcissistic desire to wear these collected things as intellectual trophies, to send signals of being cultured, to schemingly pad the resume, or follow other selfish motives
Or maybe I just enjoy the diversity of language and not everyone sounding exactly the same, go psychoanalyze someone else you fucking kike

>>21598285
when I was teaching myself German and watched a lot of movies in German dub (which now I think was retarded but that's beside the point) they used a lot of English words for fucking everyday words that sure as fuck exists in German. I don't know if it's an everyday thing or just in movies but it was weird as fuck.

Rejoice, for we Geordies have arrived and it is good.

>>21594845
>>mass literacy
A dreadful mistake.

>>21601497
Democracy, mass media and multi-ethnic societies are the mistake. How can reading be a mistake? It is what people read is the problem, your leaders allowed authors, for the sake of expedience and profit, allowed people to destroy all that you love and spread subversive views and ideas.

Don't blame the hard working man, blame the weak, profit-seeking man.

>>21601543
OK but women aren't allowed to read.