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To the guy who said "Harry Potter for Incels" I haven't stopped laughing. It's perfect

>> No.21563007

>>21562999
What’s it about?

>> No.21563051

So Harry Potter iOS for "volcels"?


>>21563007
. . .
Magic

>> No.21563151
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>>21562999
yeah, that post was great
also checked

>> No.21563228

>>21562999
lmao

>> No.21563231

>>21562999
Harry Potter is Harry Potter for incels

>> No.21563264

>>21563231
HP is simply not at all a chuddian book despite Rowling becoming a terf. The entire thing is just dripping with liberal sentimentality.

All of the reactionary elements like the house elves or the distrust of mainstream press are basically accidental/subconscious. The central message of the book is just like watered down Christian morality about self sacrifice, forgiveness, love, etc.

The most chudlike character is probably Snape who has to spend his entire life repenting for his sins to be partially redeemed.

>> No.21563274

>>21563264
Yeah, exactly. Perfect for incels, watered down inoffensive left liberal garbage

>> No.21563285

>>21563274
This is literally the embodiment of everything incels dont like. The social world portrayed in HP as good is precisely the thing they think is wrong and needs to change

>> No.21563292

>>21563285
Incels are generally left leaning progressives and communists. Soibois

>> No.21563294

>Harry Potter for Incels
as if there was any other kind

>> No.21563299

>>21562999
Based trips. Also funny that it's 999, the inverse of 666 on a magick post. Beautiful.

>> No.21563308

>>21563292
I thought you meant the self declared incels who want government assigned gfs and whatever.

The sexless communists dont like society either in any case. Being sort of cheerfully accepting of society is just not really an incel kind of trait

>> No.21563475

Why don't magick books ever tell you the truth?

Because they're always casting spells of secrecy!

>> No.21563768

>>21562999
then you should read the interpretation teaching letters of the kosher german finca fuck shed crews
protip: OTO Mannheim and their egyptian marine connection, the end of germany

>> No.21564135

>>21562999
Crowley couldn't do anything and ended up a penniless drug addict. His fanboys probably see it as some realization of Liber Cheth.

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>>21562999
>Harry Potter for Incels
Fits

>> No.21565517

>>21563051
That doesn’t explain anything

>> No.21566658

>>21563264
Wrong, it was extremely libertarian and this was obvious to me on a reread. The overarching narrative of the story's latter half is about the organized political institutions being inherently too incompetent to deal with the rise of Evil. Only innately Good, individual actors can stand up against Evil, and governmental oversight only exists to limit the ability of Good people to do Good things.
The Ministry of Magic spends all of its efforts trying to thwart Dumbledore and the Order of the Phoenix rather than acknowledging Voldemort's return, is completely ignorant to its infiltration by Evil folks, and its hijacking becomes one of Voldemort's greatest assets. Hell, the government even interferes with the school system and the negative ramifications of this are basically the A-plot for an entire book. Rowling's primary message, beyond the obvious Christian-adjacent good-vs-evil moralising being able to move past grief and death, is that Good people need to be left well alone by governments or else. But she doesn't have the guts to tell a story about authoritarianism and a peoples' uprising, so at the end Harry becomes a Good Cop(tm).

>> No.21566678

>>21566658
I dont agree. There are plenty of good cop characters like Mad Eye and Tonks. It's not anti government, it just shows that government like anything else can fail. It always comes down to simply good vs bad people, not some commentary on institutions.

>> No.21566714

>>21562999
I dislike Crowley but he's probably more intelligent and magically accomplished than you are.

>> No.21566746

>>21566678
Yeah but that's the point, the government is bad, but it has good actors inside of it.
>it just shows that government like anything else can fail.
I just don't think this is the case, because it doesn't show any examples of the government succeeding at anything. And while that's a trope in child-leaning fiction because it gives the young characters room to step up and resolve the issues in the plot, it felt far more thematically consistent in Harry Potter.
>3rd book: government pursuing the wrong criminal, overreaches into the realm of private schools putting all of the students at risk
>4th: government negligence causes several disappearances of their own agents to go uninvestigated, any of which would have exposed Voldemort. Prominent, high-ranking government official is incompetent, corrupt, and a gambling addict.
5th: Minister is revealed to have only gotten the job because Dumbledore declined, citing "power corrupts." He intentionally ignores all evidence of Voldemort and goes further to run a smear campaign against Harry and Dumbledore just to protect his own station.
6th: we get a new Minister who takes the conflict more seriously, but is still more concerned with the public appearance of the government's stability and control, than the reality of the conflict. Harry's complete rebuke of him is treated as a strictly good thing because his outreach for cooperation was merely an attempt at the Ministry trying to control everything, and would have only hindered the real fight
>7th: entire ministry is taken over by Death Eaters and the government institutions are now completely turned against the forces of good, becoming Voldemort's greatest strength for societal control