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Books about escaping the matrix?

>> No.21534513

>>21534504
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

>> No.21534524 [SPOILER] 
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>>21534513
That’s a matrix made program to keep your eye away from the real exit, moron.

>> No.21534539

>>21534504
I really do hope we’ve reached peak saturation with Andrew tate stans, I’m so tired of seeing retards talking about “escaping the matrix” by buying into an online pyramid scheme. When will these people learn that there is no escape and everyone who pretends to have the answer is trying to grift you?

>> No.21534560

>>21534539
Cope and seeth faggot

>> No.21534561

>>21534539
>there is no escape
Except there is and it’s obviously not a grift.
Maybe you perceive the “matrix” to be life itself. If that’s the case, then never mind

>> No.21534579

>>21534561
>Except there is
Where is the exit then? How does one escape the current neoliberal hegemony when every attempt at rebellion against the system is inevitably reincorporated back into it?

> Maybe you perceive the “matrix” to be life itself
No, I’m just not delusional enough to buy into the traps of snake oil salesmen. You’re never more trapped within ideology than when you think you’re finally free from it, and anyone telling you they have “the answer” is just an Agent Smith in disguise.

>> No.21534602

niggard you need to say what you actually mean not just 'escape the matrix' like that has an obvious meaning

>> No.21534608

>>21534602
escaping the simulation, becoming god, unity with the One. Call it whatever you want....

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>>21534504
Dark City I'd a superior movie to the Matrix and psuedointellectual contrarians online need to stop using that shitty movie as a standin for their gnostic angst.

>> No.21534615

>>21534608
>being this flagrantly arbitrary with language
If anyone is going to escape the matrix, it certainly isn’t you

>> No.21534644

>>21534608
Homie you’re dreaming a bit too much the fact is you live in a physical world and you will live and die in this world. We all live in Plato’s cave we can’t see pure forms, all we have is our experiences and reasoning catching a shadow of them. There’s no way out.

>> No.21534648

>>21534615
>he still doesnt understand what I mean by escaping the matrix or simulation
It has become a very mainstream phrase thanks to people like Andrew Tate, the Matrix movies, Baudrillard, etc etc. If you cant understand what I'm asking for perhaps you're the NPC
NGMI

>> No.21534660

>>21534648
I don’t even think YOU fully understand what it means. If you did, you wouldn’t be asking for books on how to achieve it, would you? You’re literally Cypher right now lmao

>> No.21534671

>>21534648
niggard here's the problem. Books address specific questions or problems the author wants to take up. If you can't describe the problem you want insight on, then noone can help you find books that will address that problem. Do you want to know about social norms and how to refute them? Is that what you mean by escape the matrix? Do you want books about religious experiences and finding an ethical principle to guide your actions? is that what you mean by unity with the niggard? Until you define what your problems are we are just playing guessing games for your amusement. It's not just you who does this, I see it all the time on /lit/ and it's annoying so I'm singling you out

>> No.21534679

>>21534504
gayest shit i ever read

>> No.21534685

>>21534608
>escaping the simulation, becoming god, unity with the One. Call it whatever you want....
every one of those things is a different concept
your brain is made of mashed potato, that's the real issue you need to solve before worrying about anything else.
mashed potato.

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>>21534504
Picrel and the Bible. That is all you'll ever need.

>> No.21534697

>>21534504
Isn't this meme just magic?

>> No.21534699

>>21534697
magic is part of the matrix

>> No.21534783

>>21534660
>>21534671
>>21534685
we live in a simulation and people speculate about the possibility of escaping said simulation and becoming godlike.We are all just arrogant sims interacting with each other for the meantime

>> No.21534788

>>21534513
No

>> No.21534802

>>21534783
so not only do you not understand simulation theory, but despite this you’re still trying to combine said misunderstanding with some kind of pseudo-gnosticism? >>21534685 is absolutely right- mashed potato for brains.

>> No.21534843

>>21534802
you're projecting here faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_XWMtewNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7K3z4RfwQ

>> No.21534855

>>21534802
Why? Have you considered that perhaps all the ancient monistic theories of reaching union with the divine or trascending this reality were basically ways of escaping the simulation?

>> No.21534874

>>21534843
>lex fraudman
holy pseud

>> No.21534906
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21534906

Start with Rene Descartes - Meditation on First Philosophy
Spinoza - Ethica
And Leibniz - Discourse on Metaphysics

Then read Locke and Hume- An Essay/An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding

Now after these start with Kants 3 critiques, critique of pure reason/practical reason/Judgement

Once done with these you could read some Fichte or Schelling if you like but for the final awakening you got to read Hegels Phenomenology of Spirit

Pick up Descartes and start reading today! Problem with you porn addicted freaks is that you want it immediately mediated through your screen, it's impossible, you got to put in the work!

>> No.21534953

>>21534579
>Where is the exit then? >>21534524
Organize the alternative, not poison for poison as the Marxists or the an-caps do.
>I’m just not delusional enough to buy into the traps of snake oil salesmen.
Good. Now help others see

>> No.21534956

>>21534906
The dude watches Fridman podcasts and can't articulate a sentence. You think he's going to start reading Meditations? You're the gravy to his potatoes.

>> No.21534963

>>21534956
>Lex fridman le bad!

>> No.21534988

>>21534963
>listening to midwits talk about shit outside their field and making idiotic connections between it and random shit like simulation theory because they don't understand the concepts involved
yeah, le very bad.

>> No.21534996

>>21534988
So like /lit/? and yourself?

>> No.21535002

>>21534956
Why you trying to gatekeep? The guy is clearly in search of truth, all you do is point towards something deemed embarrassing, as if the path you walked is free from embarrassment.
We don't know the journey the man is on, might as well bless and give some guidance instead of spitting and laughing in his face.
What comes around gets around

>> No.21535004

>>21534611
Dark City is dope but the metaphor is way too specific to really catch on.
>Take the redpill, escape the Matrix
vs
>Gradually be made aware of your imprisonment in a false society and then take a memory injection to kickstart your latent psychic powers

>> No.21535007

>>21535002
>lex FRAUDman
>in search of truth
aaaaaaaaahahaahahahahahaha
oh mercy

>> No.21535026

>>21535002
searching for $$$, otherwise he'd work on actual research instead of spending so much time and effort on shit journalists should be doing.

>> No.21535061

>>21534906
I know that Spinoza and Hegel hold monistic philosophical views, does Descartes also share similar ideas?

>> No.21535069

>>21534504
Buddhism is just that.

>> No.21535322

bump

>> No.21536507

>>21535061
no, Descartes is the quintessential dualist of modern philosophy

>> No.21537782

>>21534504
can someone explain as above so below?

>> No.21537981

>>21534539
>bro just escape the matrix by running porn sites and pyramid schemes
If anything, people like him are Agent Smiths rather than Neos.

>> No.21537985

>>21534504
Books are for virgins. Sex-havers sign up for Hustler Academy.

>> No.21538022

>>21537981
>people like him are Agent Smiths rather than Neos.
This is true. But people who claim that there is a way out of the matrix didn’t bother to see the second film, in which it’s made apparent that Zion is simply another layer of control, a way to appease those who would otherwise reject the programming by giving them the choice of rebellion (a choice that is still essentially accounted for by the system). Even Morpheus isn’t to be trusted in this sense because he’s offering Neo a false choice. Neo himself is an impossibility, a work of fiction- no one can be Neo because in reality no one is able to see the matrix from its outside and read/alter the code at will. Red pill or blue pill, it’s all the same.

>> No.21538089

>>21534906
>>21534513
these

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>>21534539
I can't understand Tatefags. If you agree with him wouldn't he just be another business/sexual competitor? If you follow him and ape him you become a beta bitch by your (his) own standard no?

>> No.21539063

>>21534539
Tate was late on this meme, you are just a psued so it is where you heard it first like boomers and fox news.

>> No.21539129

>>21537782
If im not mistaken is basically a way to describe the "mirror world" in which your reality is just a reflection of your self and your self a reflection of your reality. I might be completely wrong though lol

>> No.21539142

>>21538185
yeah but they want a father figure or something

>> No.21540004

>>21534504
discord.gg/Pf4ZJzHg