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>calls poe, lovecraft, and tolkien horrible nigh unreadable authors
what are the odds harold bloom is burning in hell right now?

>> No.21529226 [DELETED] 

>>21529202
He was a Jew and there's no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, so pretty high.

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>nooo not my genre literature
>reeee you'll burn in hell for not liking my super epic eldritch mega horrors

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>>21529226
fpbp

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>>21529226
>He was a Je-ACK

>> No.21529331

And he's right. I can't even fathom that there are people out there who actually enjoy Lovecraft, he's just fucking horrible, trash for idiots and teenagers. Poe is boring as fuck. Tolkien I know sucks without even reading him, I can tell from observing the sort of people who enjoy reading him.

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>>21529298
>>21529304
I don't like catholic spam anymore than you, but bringing this ugliness to the board is inexcusable. Please knock it off.

Repost and ignore all the ugly trolls. PLEASE

>> No.21529366

>>21529331
based

>> No.21529390

>tranny janny deletes half the thread
better delete this post too, tranny janny! don't even consider deleting the actual off-topic spam that hogs the board!

>> No.21529393

>>21529331
>>21529366
Both viciously and unfathomably gay.

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>Jew
>Hates popular white authors

>> No.21529469

>>21529431
He also hated the great White author JK Rowling, clearly it's a kike conspiracy against the based and redpilled Harry Potter series.

>> No.21529474

Lovecraft is JK Rowling tier, but, embarrassingly, is massively popular among chuds because he said nigger often (woo!).

Edgar Allen Poe is a well respected writer

I haven’t read Tolkien but the Hobbit movies are extremely comfy. LOTR movies are also good

>> No.21529520

>>21529469
spit my drink reading this, bastard

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>>21529474
>"I cannot think of any other author", said Harold Bloom of Edgar Allan Poe, "who writes so abominably, and yet is so clearly destined to go on being canonical."

>> No.21529545

>>21529526
Isn’t this the guy who lied about reading Harry Potter?

>> No.21529566

>>21529545
https://youtu.be/jpaMMoxq4fM?t=500
>calls it slop
he was a 4chan chud before his time

>> No.21529575

>>21529202
based bloom strikes again. chuds seething

>> No.21529910

Bloom couldn't write if his life depended on it, but he a sensitivity to schlock that remained unrivaled until my birth. I get nauseous when I read schlock. I sweat, get fervid, my agitation knows no bounds once some inane schlock attacks my poor sensorium. I must be extremely careful not even to read bad titles, or if an author's name is a motley assemblage of castigating symbols, nay I break out in hives whensoever I might glance at closed captioning. When I was a boy a family friend purchased for me a novel by John Grisham, the poor man took umbrage when I was immediately taken to the hospital, pronounced dead on the scene, and could only be revived by a miraculously prescient nurse who haltingly whispered Milton into my cold ear, drawimg me back from the brink.

>> No.21529947

>>21529202
Where does he discuss Lovecraft?

>> No.21529962

>>21529910
>Milton
I figured that would've killed you.

>> No.21529974

>>21529331
>I can tell without even reading him
welcome to /lit/

>> No.21529978

>>21529202
>NO!

>> No.21530125

>>21529202
No one gives a fuck about Bloom lmao

>> No.21530195

Lovecraft is a bad writer and I say this as a big fan of his. His writing is usually very stiff and excessively descriptive. People always criticize Tolkien for his detailed descriptions but I've always felt they contribute to the whole, meaning they suit the book tonally and stimulate the imagination which is what Tolkien desired to achieve. Lovecraft, on the other hand, only pulls me out of his stories with his dry descriptiveness. Reading him is a struggle but I feel the content is worth it.
As for Poe, I've always felt he was overrated but he has some fantastic work.
Bloom was a fucking hack, though.

>> No.21530252

>>21529202
Well he's Jewish so you go ahead and figure that one out

>> No.21530259

>>21529431
I would notice because they're usually one in the same

>> No.21530379

>>21529331
king

>> No.21530404

>>21529202
Tolkien really is mediocre at best desu desu

>> No.21530410

>>21529202
>Harold Bloom
Sounds jewish. You sure that has nothing to do with it?

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The odds are pretty damn good just looking at the guy. Poe and Lovecraft are the backbone of modern Weird Horror; their influence is so expansive it is hard to imagine Western culture without the raven or the old Gods. Lovecraft's only handicap was being derivative, a trait which he found endearing. Poe had none such deficiencies or flaws. Don't get me started on Tolkien. I'm not even much of a fan and he is so monolithically important and basically wrote the playbook for modern fantasy. He's like a God of genre literature.

You're probably the guy who wrote the "stretch her legs" copypasta about Harry Potter/Rowling.

>> No.21530515

>>21530485
>genre literature
no such thing, and being the father of genre fiction is roughly the same as being the first guy to get herpes.
Poe was acerbically known as the "Jingle Man", and anyone who can tolerate his works after reaching the age of reason probably underwent some sort of trepannation. Lovecraft is such a nonentity that it's no surprise the bottomfeeders of the present worship him, they see in him the muck and slime they are themselves composed of. A match made in gehenna.

Bloom had standards that were above the fetid saturation line, and those who would seek to drag him down below it can't imagine why anyone might avoid the stench.

>> No.21530532

>>21529469
Unironically true
>>21529202
A jew academic of very dubious merit made extremely famous for no real reason. Shocking

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>>21530515

What were/are his favorite books? I have no clue who this man is although I recognize the name and am familiar with his reputation.

>> No.21530587

>>21530567
Shakespeare

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>>21529202
From a purely technical standpoint Bloom is right, they are terrible. But Bloom could never understand there is more to literature than syntax and structure, which is also why he failed miserably as an author.

>Perscors woke to the sound of rushing waters. The stream, near which he had slept, had become a raging river, with waves like an ocean’s.
>Rain began to fall, steadily but not alarmingly. After brooding on the transformation of the stream, Perscors looked behind him to the east, where the sky was a threatening black.
>He remembered two texts : “MySpirit shall not always strive with man”and “Itrepenteth me that I have made them.”
>“What giant is there in this earth of Lucifer in these days?”Perscors asked aloud. The answer : it could be only himself. If the Archons and the warriors of his cosmos could not stop him, and they could not, then they would seek to drown him.
>He looked up coldly at the eastern sky, and saw that its darkness was spreading quickly. He had not much time. But the fire that had carried him through would not be quenched by these waters. He felt a detached curiosity as to how, but not as to whether, he would survive.
>“Iwill ride it out, but in what?”
>Perscors walked west slowly, following the river. The rain fell more heavily. As the river widened, it seemed more and more an ocean, and took over nearly half the western horizon. Intuiting an approach, Perscors turned around to the east. A clumsy old bark, seemingly deserted, drifted rapidly toward him. Very broad and low, filthy with bilge, yellow-sided, it had a badly split mainmast. The sails seemed crumpled, yet held up strongly in the wind.
>Taking it as the sign of his ongoing fate, Perscors leaped aboard midship as it came by him. At his feet lay a man, taller and broader even than himself. An icy wind had come up, and Perscors shivered violently as he stared at the matted-haired man, laid out in what seemed a shroud, yet staring back at him out of gray-green eyes still alive with anguish. Perscors knelt down near the man and placed his hand on his brow. The giant closed his eyes, but said to Perscors : “Whoareyou?”
>“Awanderer from another cosmos. And you?”
>Opening his eyes, the giant replied : “Nimrud the Hunter. This is my death ship. I sail back to the Arimaneans, in the West, to be buried among my own.”

>> No.21530614

>>21530567
well, he's responsible for cultivating and propagating one of my favorite western canon lists.

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
he's a man like anyone else, but the old /lit/ had its fandom, he was also fairly prescient, acrimoniously bitching about machine learning produced writing of poor quality (some forty years before we were blighted with chatgpt) and often bemoaning the tragic state of academia, often clutching his hair in his hands in public speaking outings surrounded by moronic academicians selling their trite books of criticism. a bizarre and often hilarious figure, he specialized in poetry, and was a vastly respected scholar in that field.

>> No.21530700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ieF7LVbyI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqYtl5mmumQ

here's the only guy who had any chance to shake academia out of its madness, and you faggots all think he's a jew menace because he hated your simpleton fantasy novels that you're clinging to because you've never escaped the gravity of your own childhoods.
this guy did more to uphold the torch of LITERATURE than any of you scumsuckers could ever muster.
>b-but muh jews

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>>21530700
>chance to shake academia out of its madness
No that would require naming and blaming the Jew. A jew himself, this big Jew never did that. In fact he hated antisemitism and downranked authors who "suffered from that disease" despite their extreme literary merits.
>b-but muh jews
Yes indeed. Muh Jews. Gotta get rid of em

>> No.21530716

>>21530707
>downranked authors
lol, yes. he didn't like ezra pound's bumptious ass.
the point is that because he was jewish he was immunized against the typical tactics of the jew, namely the ability to shut out the critical voices. what did he do? he stood at the peak of the literary mountain and shouted out to the jews themselves that they were fucking up. you're so blinded by your hatred you can't even see your own allies, and so i will not weep when you are eradicated.

>> No.21530742

>>21530716
>what did he do? he stood at the peak of the literary mountain and shouted out to the jews themselves that they were fucking up.
Really? He named the jews responsible for the denigrating of academia and pointed out that their Jewishness was no coincidence and then he pointed out that Jewish intellectuals viciously hate everything good in the world and desperately want to transition children and convince their students that not supporting this is tantamount to some great moral illness for some strange reason? He did all that? Or did he do none of that and instead rail against antisemitism? Jews don't start at neutral, they start with a burden of guilt and have to prove themselves decent. He never did.
>pound
Ya and Eliot to name the biggest one

>> No.21530760

>>21530707
You're a fucking idiot

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>>21530716
>harold BLOOM is your ally
No he was a Jew anon.

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>>21530760
How so?

>> No.21530780

>>21530742
>>21530763
so overjoyed you faggots are losing.

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>>21530780
It's still worth a shot. What future are you hoping to see?

>> No.21530789

>>21530780
>faggots
the winning side considers this an unspeakable word, anon

>> No.21530818

>>21530614
>http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
wow, its almost entirely irrelevant garbage
God, literature is so worthless

>> No.21530828

>>21530614
>a vastly respected scholar in that field
Name 3 non good authors who stated they seriously respected Bloom as a scholar or anything else. Can you even name one?
>Uh no I meant other jew university position holders
Oh ya, so totally worthless people?

>> No.21530831

>>21529526
>"I cannot think of any other author", said Harold Bloom
How did he get away with it?

>> No.21530835

>>21530828
>>21530614
>*3 good authors
Oops

>> No.21530878

>>21530786
>>21530789
>>21530818
>>21530828
scumsucking faggots who will never accomplish anything more than covering themselves with their own feces and complaining about the jews

this would be amusing if it weren't so damn tragic.

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>>21530878
I'd be angry if I didn't have a foreskin too :(

>> No.21530888

>>21530886
your people are so weak they are defeated by pornography and corn syrup.

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>>21530888
You will eventually regret your position. Take care of your soul.

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>>21530903
Have a rare Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgdS5HYgaGk

>> No.21530939

>>21530906
My soul is not filled with pride and hatred. I worry for the plight of you men whose energies are spent festering in the bog of inutile rage. You act as though complaining about jews on some forum is an act of virtue, of revolution. I understand all too well how well you've been demoralized, swept into a meaningless corner, sterilized. The few that know compromise and rationality escape this pit, the ones who understand that no one benefits from stewing in their own malice, those are the ones who might see a brighter day. You, you who poorly bear on your shoulders the fantasy of your glorious race will be driven into your graves by the leaden weight of its mediocrity. What you meant to be your wings is the millstone round your neck. Open your eyes.

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>>21530929
>video
Anon :*(

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>>21530939
>My soul is not filled with pride and hatred.
>your people are so weak they are defeated by pornography and corn syrup.
You come across as quite hateful in your posts here so far.
>The few that know compromise and rationality escape this pit
Can you describe this rational compromise with kikes and the future you envision?

>> No.21530969

>>21530939
But I do forgive you. I would be hate-filled too if my penis was mutilated as a child and a literal paid baby penis blood sucker sucked on it. That's really evil and stupid.

>> No.21531006

>>21530958
I'm dispelling your idiotic pride when you're standing among the ruins of your civilization.
As to compromise, I understand that your position under heel doesn't entitle you to see beyond the shadow of your masters, but the future is bright for those willing to help their brothers, be they black, white, faggots, or trannies. Compromise is how a responsible man lives with the iniquities of disappointment, disappointment in those around him who do not live to his standards, the people who disagree with him, those who even seek to undermine him. Compromise is the refusal to hate the jew, but to forgive him in spite of himself, the refusal to hate women, despite their "betrayal" of a system which has held them as chattel, to refuse the individualist swansong, wondering why so much nepotism and handshaking goes on in more homogenous groups, when you could operate under the exact same rules to unite. No, you drown the one who seeks to rescue you, you pull him under your chest and you both drown. You couldn't recognize the difference between friend or foe if one were gigging your infant on a pike, or handing you a first-aid kit.
The future I envision is one that is likely anathema to you, because all you want is war, slaughter, and monstrosity compounded on monstrosity. What I envision is an ideal I daren't hurl before swine, far too precious to me.

>> No.21531012

>>21530515>>21529202
>>21529474
>>21529575
>>21529910
>>21530878

Remember the PBS interview where he's
Drinking water and slobbering, crying like
a child.

What did PBS mean by this.

>>21530610>>21530252
>>21530532
>>21530906
>>21530716

Cool it with the anti-semitisim, bro.

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>>21531006
You guys target literal children. You will wish you had been drowned.

>> No.21531041

Delete this thread. No discussion of literature, or even of Bloom. Just Jew hatred. Now vax has even come up.

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>no discussion of bloom
>have personally posted his canon, a pair of his youtube videos, have defended his positions the entire thread

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>>21531041
We've discussed Bloom and literature. Jew hatred is the only reasonable position.

>> No.21531076

>>21530707
>JewishContributions
Kek.

>> No.21531104

>>21531051
You're based. Spend your time elsewhere, you'll be happier for it.

>> No.21531116

>>21529566
>jew
>fake and gay accent
Many such cases

>> No.21531120

>>21531104
you're right, but i'm too tainted to hang out anywhere else at this point.

>> No.21532126

>>21529202
he was right, plebs enjoy the most tryhard stuff from horror to le epic fantasy stories

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>>21529469
>clearly it's a kike conspiracy against the based and redpilled Harry Potter series.

unironically and literally

>> No.21532371

>>21530610
hahaha

>> No.21532404

>>21531116
>speaks like nearly all educated americans spoke pre 60s/70s
>fake and gay

>> No.21532627

>>21529331
>>21529202

I imagine those guys are like DFW, really good if you read them before you develop better taste. taste has its drawbacks.

>> No.21532632

>>21529202
>wrote 1 fiction book
>critically panned
>even his non-fiction is often panned
Ironic, isn't it? And I like him too, but as a creator I feel critics have life too easy. Easier to criticize than to make anything worthwhile.

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>>21529974

>> No.21532734

>>21529962
Miltered

>> No.21532757

>>21530614
You have to be insanely naive to believe that he seriously read all those books.

>> No.21532769

>>21532757
why?

>> No.21532772

>>21529202
>Bloom
Certainty.

>> No.21534069

>>21532757
>couple hundred books
bro, that's what, ten years max worth of books, at a *slow pace*. i weep for your age, who think of the man who could read a book in a day as a titan of cognition.

>> No.21534082

>>21529331
Lovecraft might be generic, but he is generic in and onto himself. He has written the same story two dozen times, but none could thenceforth write it without being compared to him.
Poe is somehow better in translation than in English.
Tolkien has not only a lasting legacy—the entire genre of 'fantasy' consisting solely of either his imitators or authors who consciously decide to 'not' imitate him—but is a talented writer in his own right, regardless of any thought to his (extensive) legacy; the critics—both the ones on /lit/ and elsewhere—who discredit him do so out of ignorance. He /is/ overrated—that much I must admit—yet his legacy shall live on for hundreds of years; and not without merit, I must add.

>> No.21534086

>>21532404
>accent magically changes over time
>not fake and gay

>> No.21534115

>tolkien has become commercially successful and popular, therefore he is a good author
I hate americans so much

>> No.21534116

>>21534115
we're so bad. it's so bad. mammon worshipers of the worst order.

>> No.21534158

>>21534082
But Robert Howard, Rudyard Kipling, Fritz Leiber and Edgar Rice Burroughs are just as important as Tolkien

>> No.21534360

>>21534158
>Robert Howard
Never
>Rudyard Kipling
During his lifetime, perhapsl, but no more
>Fritz Leiber
Absolutely not,
>Edgar Rice Burroughs
No.

>> No.21534856

>>21534069
He is not listing airport thrillers. Most of the works he is listing are incredibly complex and require careful reading even for people in academia. Most of the times he just goes with "Selected poems" which doesn't really work. Most people in academia can make a whole, respectful career carefully reading one tenth of that list. You are telling me that this motherfucker read all those books, from different times and cultures, with the sufficient care to actually curate a list of the best from each from those authors, while having time to teach, write and shit and JK Rowling?

>> No.21535185

>>21534082
>Lovecraft might be generic, but he is generic in and onto himself. He has written the same story two dozen times, but none could thenceforth write it without being compared to him.
Stravinsky said Vivaldi composed 200 times the same concerto. It's true but he's still the concerto master. Not saying Lovecraft is a grand pillar of literature but that's not an argument against him.
>Poe is somehow better in translation than in English.
Only in French and that's because Baudelaire almost rewrote the books, but I agree.

>> No.21535209

>>21534856
yeah, the cat was a genius.

>> No.21535221

>>21529202
Lots of kvetching ITT. Taking down the jewish system is the only morally righteous path forward. And yes he was a jew so that's one less to have to worry about

>> No.21535255

>>21529202
What is his face trying to convey?

>> No.21535283

>>21534856
Anon, you seem to be making up what you think academia is and what those books are. Everyone who goes post grad lit will have read most of that list and a good deal of undergrads will have read a sizable chunk of that. Most of those books you can not make a career out of, too much has been written on them already.

>> No.21535292

>>21529202
Don’t forget Stephen King and JK Rowling.
Harold Bloom was the best modern critic of literature, and I hope his legacy of promoting The Western Canon lives on.

>> No.21535295

>>21529202
Lovecraft is for pseuds, Poe is great, Tolkien is great. Bloom is, most likely, in Hell, but not for rejecting any writers. He's there for rejecting Christ.

Tolkien is in Heaven, most likely.
>>21529331
He really doesn't suck at all. Just because an author is accessible doesn't mean they aren't great, but you're right about Lovecraft. I'm not sure how you could find Poe boring - though I'll admit, I haven't read him in at least ten years.

>> No.21535296

>>21535255
>Poor me, a jew
They've had centuries to perfect their craft

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>>21535221
>>21535296
Summon the Jewish pol whiners

>> No.21535338

>>21535301
Well, you have to admit that they've caused problems over the years. We could've gone without them blowing up the twin towers so that white people would bomb sandniggers on their behalf or locking everyone up in their home for a year over a cough so they can sell bunk vaccines

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>>21535338
Ya I know lol. I mean your posts are going to summon jews who whine about pol posters

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>>21535375
Down with the jewish system

>> No.21535397

>>21535338
What I could go without, are pol-idiots like you turning every single thread into a forum for you to cry yourselves to sleep about the Jews and blacks. You have no depth. You are a braindead cancer.

>> No.21535401

>>21535397
Every single word should be dedicated to the task of dismantling the Jewish system, everywhere, until that goal is accomplished and people see the truth of what's been done, who has done it, and what their reasons were.

>> No.21535490

>>21535401
antisemitism is a pretty lackluster literary movement. you're only going to go so far, further still, one day you might get your wish and eradicate the jews forever, but your problems will remain, you'll bite in every direction until you bite yourself, seeking homogeneity, until you've consumed everything up to your neck. You'll be a wild, mad head, howling with your own blood on your frenzied maw. nothing will slake this thirst of yours save redemption. Why do you think Christ was such a monumental figure?

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>>21535490
I'll worry about that when the Jewish systems are gone. Until then what's important is educating everyone about them and getting rid of them. Most people would agree that having their governments make an attempt to improve their lives rather than doing everything possible to destroy them would be an improvement. If such a result were produced I don't see how what you're describing would be very likely.

>> No.21535510

>>21535490
>but your problems will remain
Lie

>> No.21535529

>>21535500
reactionary movements are doomed to fail. you don't have a plan, you don't have a vision except one sans jude. if your position were worth a shit, you could devise something better than this, something people could latch onto without the necessity of bloodshed. you're going to go to war and the people you'll be slaughtering are your brothers and sisters.
in any case, you don't give a flying fuck about literature. what you care about is a political movement because you're dissatisfied in the decisions of 'your people'. No one forced you to subscribe to circumcision. No one shoveled plastics and corn syrup down your throats. No one took out your wallets and made you purchase mindless films or cuckoldry guides. No one sent your children to schools run by people you disagree with. You did. You shove every ounce of responsibility on jews, and when they're gone, you won't have any direction to point your finger when everything is still garbage. You know those negroes you hate so much? You sound an awful lot like them.

>> No.21535535

>>21535510
ok. yeah, you won't have capitalistic greed run rampant, or underqualified people teaching children or a crumbling infrastructure or a medical system that creates lifelong debtors or an obesity crisis or any of that. no, that'll all magically vanish overnight once the jews are eradicated. what the fuck fantasy nonsense world do you live in?

>> No.21535538

>the jews injected me with fentanyl!

>> No.21535574

>>21535535
All of those are literally attributable to jews except maybe the infrastructure which isn‘t getting fixed because we need to spend another trillion on zionist wars

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/lit/ TRY NOT TO POST ANYTHING ANTISEMETIC CHALLEGE (100% IMPOSSIBLE)

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>>21535529
Even if it wasn't a matter of compulsion it was done and designed evily, to harm people, and on purpose, and it can be reversed.
>>21535535
Removal of the Jewish omnivoice would go a long way towards making it easier for people to coordinate towards building a better culture and society, for forming stronger families, making better marriages, being better people. All the things you mention could be much reduced. The media and legalistic jew is a large part of what makes it difficult. And the political jew, and the medical jew, etc.

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>>21535529
>reactionary movements are doomed to fail
>Goes on to use reactionary rhetoric
Read a book dipshit. Jews and jew sympathizers get the gas

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>>21535574
you're missing the point. you gave it all up to begin with. now you want it all back like some puling infant that's broken his toy. well, you aint getting it back. you were fine and dandy pursuing drugs and hedonism and commie philosophy. for such a superior race you sure have little resistance to cognitive warfare. the carrot is poison and you stretch for it, canter right over the fuckin edge of a cliff. it's sad.
>b-but the jews did this
yes, and you and your dumbshit stumpfuck pappy didn't do shit about it.

>> No.21535590

>>21535529
>in any case, you don't give a flying fuck about literature.
Yes I do. I wish there weren't these problems in the world so I could dedicate more time to things I actually enjoy.

>> No.21535597

>>21535581
just don't like 'em

>> No.21535601

>>21535589
>you gave it all up to begin with.
I did? You mean personally?
>your race is inferior that's why we're trying to destroy you with cognitive warfare
So which is it kike? Are we illiterate, stupid, unoriginal, antisemites who shouldn't be focusing on Jess or is what you just said the truth and all of us have a moral duty to address the Jewish problem?

>> No.21535610

>>21535589
Seemingly saying through the seething psychobabble that things shouldn‘t be fixed because they got bad during previous generations

>> No.21535611

>>21529431
religiously Bloom was a gnostic. Read his stuff and this comes out more and more, even if he talks about Judaism here and there you can tell what he really believes

>> No.21535612

>>21529331
Lovecraft was a working writer, who wrote the same story a lot of times, and wrote a lot of stuff that isn't very good. You need to read the stuff that works and filter the other stuff.
It's also kind of unfortunate that Call of Cthulhu became his most known story, because it's mediocre.

>> No.21535616

>>21535589
Anyway regardless of who compelled who to accept the practice (and I can imagine a lot of Jewish energy went into that psyop, and an enormous amount is needed to maintain it) who's performing circumcisions on children and who's making sure the practice remains normalized and legal? Do you not understand that attacking newborn babies in this way is almost comically evil? Why shouldn't the entire world hate you? Why shouldn't God hate you?

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>>21535611
Jew is an ethnicity you stupid faggot. A jew is a jew it doesn't matter what religion they practice.

>> No.21535625

>>21535601
you did. you still are. and the fact that you call me a kike is the cherry on top.
you are both idiotic *and* your focus on the jews has done nothing but harm you. have you ever heard of the phrase "an eye for an eye"? your eyes are being pulled out as we speak. torn from your skull. your own people sold you up the river, just like when negroes sold their unsavories for weapons of war and horses.
frankly, you should compromise like i told you to yesterday.

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>>21535625
From a practical standpoint I don't really care. There is one right direction and if it doesn't work because the condition can never inprove then it doesn't work, but there's only one way. And I believe it will work. Besides, these people are obviously evil. It's worth drawing everyone's attention to it or trying to.

>> No.21535642

>>21535610
they can be fixed, but not by slaughter. take some responsibility for yourselves and maybe you'll figure out what to do. >>21535616
>you you you
there you go, blaming others for your problems again. your own doctors perform circumcision. there's money in it. your entire culture is fixated on that green monster. YOU'RE DOING IT TO YOURSELVES.

i swear it's like talking to a brick wall. you really can't figure it out? this is why bloom stressed influence so often in literature. its theme is pervasive. your guts are swollen with the poison and you'll never wash yourself of this mentality of victimhood. what a damn pity.

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>>21535642
>there you go blaming others for your problems again
I have never condoned or performed a circumcision
>your own doctors
>greed runs society
Yes, certainly in some cases, however the blame is laid on Jews for normalizing the practice and encouraging

The things you're referring to only continue to happen because of intense psychological warfare directed at the populace from an early age. It would reverse if that were not happening and so obviously stopping it from happening is the only worthy goal.

>> No.21535663

>>21535642
You are saying
>don't blame the people purposefully making everyone's lives as difficult and godless and devoid of truth as possible from the time they're born, many of whom will not be lucky enough to escape your races ritualistic baby mutilation (after which the rabbi sucks the babies penis because jews are a sick psychotic people), because every individual has free will
If we addressed the root of the problem the tree would heal. The Jew is intimately involved in the root of the problem and must be, as a voice in politics, academics, medicine, finance, law, etc, silenced.

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>>21535632
>i don't care about the fact that previous generations sold me like a slave for a feeble grasp at immortality
mhm. keep on posting your tweets, i'm sure you're breaking the conditioning

>> No.21535668

>>21535664
I do care about that. What I don't care about is your assertion that things can't change and I should change my way of thinking to avoid being in opposition to that because it can't, or definitely will not, change.
>I'm sure you're breaking the conditioning
Well its going to take a lot of people

>> No.21535673

>>21535664
>>21535642
>>21535625
Also daily reminder that you can never and will never be funny. No intel poster or dumb kike shill is funny and never will be. The average anon, in contrast, is hilarious. You are inferior to us.

>> No.21535689

>>21535664
And are you for or against hundreds of millions of babies being cut and this practice continuing? Do you devote energy in either direction?

>> No.21535696

>>21535668
>things can't change
oh, they will. you just won't like it. they're changing right now. the terrible irony is that after your 'revolution' comes to pass, it'll be such an irredeemable mess you'll miss the way things are right now. you have all this momentum, all this energy, and it's all culminating in you hanging yourself.
>b-but muh babylon
the empire is dead, long live the empire. disgusting.

>> No.21535700

>>21535689
hm? oh now you ask me that? of course circumcision is disgusting.

>> No.21535709

>>21535696
What is your ultimate point and why are you devoting your time to correcting the record on Jewish crimes?
>it'll be such an irredeemable mess
It wouldn't be if people thought correctly about the issue, which begins with eliminating the Jewish voices that confuse everything and debilitate people and turn governments into anti-human agents of destruction directed towards their own populations. These are bad things.
>>21535700
Then why aren't you advocating for its cessation? Why won't you admit that the only way to do so would be to challenge Jewish influence?

>> No.21535719

>>21530567
Read 'Ravelstein' by Saul Bellow. It's about him.

>> No.21535750

>>21535709
you're fighting a war of subtlety that has gone on for thousands of years with sticks and clubs whilst they fly loop de loops over your head with stealth jets. you seek to fight with brute force and mania a cold and calculating beast. you seek to tear apart, further, something that has become so fused with every facet of your culture, that the process of omission will do naught but destroy the whole thing.
>if people thought correctly
>eliminating jewish voices
you just don't get it. you're fighting sin, numb nuts. you have but one weapon against all of this. faith. pour your energies into faith.

you have to show people how to live in -spite- of demoralization. nothing you do will erase sin except embracing Christ. You are going to suffer, it's going to be horrifying and terrible, and there aint shit you can do about it but pray. The more you lash out, the bigger this beast will get, and the more culpable you'll become. You point in every direction except your own, dammit. Take some responsibility, and give yourself to faith in God. Redemption and forgiveness isn't as hard as you think.
it's the lightest yoke there is.

>hur dur fuck u christcuck
yeah, that's what i thought. wallow in your demoralization, complain about the jews, bite bite bite.

>> No.21535766

>>21535750
I agree with you that it's a spiritual war and Christ is the salvation. I don't think that's actually what you believe however. I won't only point in my own direction. There are bad actors and other people can be convinced as to who they are. I was.

>> No.21535777

>>21529331
I love Lovecraft but he really reads like shit at this time. The themes I like though.

>> No.21535780

>>21535766
you'll find you're a lot better off spreading love and salvation instead of spewing hate and violence.
look at it this way: a common joke among the nazis that frequent this place is how many civilizations the jews have been expelled from. now. what do you call doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? the shit -doesn't fucking work-. it didn't work then, and it won't work now. pull your head out of your ass, love your neighbor, and build what you can when you can. every hour you burn with hatred towards the jew is another your heart boils in hell.

>> No.21535782

>>21535750
This is also a rather different tune than you've been singing so far
>you're missing the point. you gave it all up to begin with. now you want it all back like some puling infant that's broken his toy. well, you aint getting it back. you were fine and dandy pursuing drugs and hedonism and commie philosophy. for such a superior race you sure have little resistance to cognitive warfare.
>No one forced you to subscribe to circumcision. No one shoveled plastics and corn syrup down your throats. No one took out your wallets and made you purchase mindless films or cuckoldry guides. No one sent your children to schools run by people you disagree with.
People you disagree with is putting it mildly. And again, what is your issue with pointing out where the problem extends from?
>but the problem is sin
Yes and there are obstacles in the way of convincing enough people of that which need to be removed
>but the problem is you
Yes but not just me

>> No.21535787

>>21535780
I dont particularly burn with hatred. I simply point out what I observe on 4chan. Why do you have such a big problem with that? If I want to tell a few thousand people that circumcision is evil and it's Jewish advocacy groups which keep it going in order to scar as many baby boys as possible why are you so opposed to that? Because I'm not improving myself? Improving myself won't end the practice, which must end.

And that's just one example out of many hundreds where Jews are overwhelmingly involved.

>> No.21535789

>>21535782
>>21535782
i've been pretty consistent in placing responsibility on the individual. each of these things, be it corn syrup, schools, hedonism, drugs, what have you, it's all been willingly taken. you have given yourselves over to sin, and no man can have power over you unless you give it him. surely, you can die before a man has power over you. no, you give it up. you whine and weasel and seek violence and death and expulsion and blame everyone but yourself. i see no inconsistencies here. only that the solution hasn't been clear to you until now.

>> No.21535799

>>21535789
Free will, yes, but the babies who are circumcised don't have the free will to stop it from happening, nor do the children who are miseducated or misdiagnosed. There is a system in place designed to destroy people from the moment they're born and you're trying to place the blame for that on the victims of it. This system is also intentionally disguised through an enormous amount of effort and resources to maintain itself. Describing it accurately to people so they have the knowledge to make decisions that remove themselves from its influence and naming those responsible is mandatory.

>> No.21535800

>>21535787
you're a fuckin broken record, man.
your heart is harder than a stone. i hope some day you figure out that Jesus wasn't some hippie peddling self-help techniques. ffs, what an asinine conception of salvation and forgiveness you have.

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>>21535799
>jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews

>> No.21535807

>>21535800
What did I say that was wrong in that post? What is wrong about pointing out that Jewish advocacy is why circumcision is performed on hundreds of millions of unwilling victims when they are newly born, no less? This is one strong example and you refuse to provide any sort of reason for why this shouldn't be the prerogative of every thinking person until it's abolished, along with many other evils.

>> No.21535817

>>21535789
And corn syrup and the types of bad food that to massive rates of obesity and untold human misery are addictive and dependency forming. Children are fed this type of food at schools, and they're often addicted from an early age. Then later in life they're prescribed psych meds because they hate their lives and they trust professional doctors to help them and want what's best for them. If you give children nicotine from an early age you csnt then say "lmao your fault you're addicted" even if they do ultimately have the freewill to stop. Even if everything you're saying is true their is a moral imperative to attack those who are producing these outcomes, on purpose, precisely in order to harm people.

>> No.21535827

>>21535807
not one circumcision has been done without the full consent and desire of the parent. if they don't want it done, they don't have to. it's a nonissue as far as i'm concerned, because it's done, like all other indulgences in sin, by one's will. there's a reason we have Adam's sin over our heads, anon. we didn't choose this, but we've chosen to continue it. step the fuck out of the loop, and you'll see, without a shadow of a doubt, that sin can only enter the willing. you can't go into debt if you don't take the money. you can't get fat if you don't eat the garbage, your son can't get cut by the doctor if you don't consent. you're just too easily distracted to take seriously here, if people didn't WANT their children cut, they wouldn't do it. now, your argument is "oh well they're just not educated enough". uh yes, and you're the hero that's going to spread the word, to run through fiery hospitals to rescue infants. for fuck's sake anon, i get it, it's a repulsive act, but you're going to drown against a tide of women who are too busy aborting their infants to listen to your concerns about circumcision. all you're going to do is effectively drive yourself absolutely bonkers with a hard drive full of grotesque pictures of severed infant dicks. forgive, give it up to christ, this world is wicked. you don't like it for a reason. stop adding to its wickedness, and spread the love. it's not that fuckin hard.

>> No.21535845

>>21535817
seems pretty easy to solve this. don't give the kid psych meds, nicotine, or corn syrup. no one forced it on your kid except you. you're only ever going to be responsible for your own actions.

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>i think i'll save the world by arguing about circumcision in a thread about Harold fuckin Bloom
so unbelievably insane i can't handle it anymore.

>> No.21535858

>>21535827
Newborn babies aren't guilty of the sins you're describing when the decision is made for them. They are not responsible
>It's the parents
No, it's the cutters
>Well thats doctors
And Jews. I don't like doctors who do this either and think they should receive prison terms.
>hundreds of millions of cut babies, I don't care
But I do care, which is why I'm making the points I'm making. The procedure could be reduced and nearly eliminated. And it should be, and this is just one thing.
>>21535845
>Don't give the kids
I dont. And I don't want anyone else to either.

>> No.21535873

>>21535827
>now, your argument is "oh well they're just not educated enough". uh yes, and you're the hero that's going to spread the word, to run through fiery hospitals to rescue infants. for fuck's sake anon, i get it, it's a repulsive act, but you're going to drown against a tide of women who are too busy aborting their infants to listen to your concerns about circumcision. all you're going to do is effectively drive yourself absolutely bonkers
Driving myself bonkers is of no concern to me. Why are you expending so many words to "convince" a random anon not to advocate for the end of this practice or to tell as many people as possible, as convincingly as possible, where it comes from? Why does this occupy you so much?
>>21535855
I dont think that, but what's your reason for arguing in favour of NOT addressing circumcision in a thread about Harold Bloom?

>> No.21535878

>>21535827
>now, your argument is "oh well they're just not educated enough". uh yes, and you're the hero that's going to spread the word, to run through fiery hospitals to rescue infants.
Someday someone will be.

>> No.21535895

>>21535827
>not one circumcision has been done without the full consent and desire of the parent. if they don't want it done, they don't have to.
So convincing as many people as possible not to allow this would reduce rates? And that would be a good thing for those infants saved the procedure, clearly. Banning it altogether would be ideal.

>> No.21535910

>>21530614
>Summa Theologica not part of Bloom’s canon despite its massive influence on Western philosophy
Dropped.

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So, has anyone read this poem?
https://youtu.be/fLBXe3z9zx8

>> No.21535932

>>21535910
he often described that list as containing howlers and very likely missing a great deal of important texts. think of it as a primer, rather than the end all be all

>> No.21536040

>>21529202
>No!

>> No.21536236

>>21535777
Depends what you even mean by that. The way he writes is good for pulling you into the mood of the story, and that's what you want it to be, right?

>> No.21536288 [DELETED] 

>>21535401
With one sentence, you've proven my point. You have zero intellectual death. You are a mere ideologue - dust on the back of a psychic phantasm blowing through the curtains of the web. Your existence, as it is, means nothing.

>> No.21536297

>>21535401
With one sentence, you've proven my point. You have zero intellectual depth. You are a mere ideologue - dust on the back of a psychic phantasm blowing through the curtains of the web. Your existence, as it is, means nothing.

>> No.21536308

>>21535581
My post was anti-anti-Semitic, actually.

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>>21536297
And yet it's true

>> No.21536466

>>21529331
FPBP!!!

>> No.21536598

>>21529331
>he's just fucking horrible,
Don't care. Still love his shitty stories about spoopy brown folk.

>> No.21536882

>>21534082
>Poe is somehow better in translation than in English.
People who say this are just pseuds who are told such tripe in academia because they need an excuse to legitimize Poe into the canon without readers actually being aware of why or how (they are just informed of his greatness).

>> No.21536890

>>21535295
They're all bourgeois fag trash, including Bloom.

>> No.21536933

>>21530195
I like the dry descriptiveness, it has the feelings of some stuffy old scientific textbook but painting cool horror. I figure he was always a by-spergs-for-spergs sort of author. There's lots of public consciousness of Chuthulu stuff but the only people I know who've actual read and enjoyed his stories are the same kind of people who play D&D, self included.

>> No.21536952

>>21536890
the unbridled arrogance of unaccomplished plebs

>> No.21536962

>>21535719
No it's not. I miss Bellow.