/lit/ - Literature

>>21493124
I don't really like the yellow but I've seen worse art.

>>21493124
Older edition: 656 pages
Newer edition: 576 pages
WTF. What's in those 80 pages?

>>21493229
>What's in those 80 pages?
English literature academics need something to do.

>>21493229
Racism, Sexism, LGBTQ discrimination

>>21493236
So good literature?

>>21493124
They forgot “or, the Whale”

Tales of the Mighty Dead

>>21493229
Older one is 527 pages.

>>21493258
Based Penguin has your back.

>>21493340
Penguin has never let me down.

nice art, bro

>>21493124
What's this trend to have cartoon art for classics covers. I much prefer a painting related to the subject.

What do you mean you don't like contemporary graphics? Are you some kind of chud, anon?

>>21493426
They're both shit.

>>21493426
Muh realism

>>21493124
for me its signet

>>21493229
original version was 258 pages

>>21493124
both covers are AI-tier garbage kek, it's so over for 99% of visual artists it's not even funny anymore

>>21493340
better cover art too, they put some minimal effort unlike on OP's

>>21493747
the one on the left is from a real painting, faggot.

>>21493124

>>21493411
i don't know, but the one you posted is terrible too

>>21493702
pretty good, i wish i had 75¢

>>21493753
i said AI-tier, not AI-made, that artist is shit and will be hungry in the coming years

>>21493124
I have pic rel (Barnes & Noble Classics Series). Do I need anything else? It comes with an introduction, footnotes on every other page and a glossary of whaling terms.

>>21493124
There's a marathon reading of MD going on right-fucking-now pretty sure. From New Bedford Mass. I think they live stream it.

>>21493772
the artist is probably dead. it's an old painting.

>>21493797
https://youtu.be/CFanB97Y6J0

Modern Oxford is shit. Avoid like the plague if you can:
>To my special delight I also received an email from my middle-school English teacher, who had watched my Jeopardy! episodes and wrote about our mutual love of Herman Melville. Mr Ronkowitz—I’m assured I can call him Ken now, but I’ll retain the honorific—reads widely and generously. We’ve been corresponding over the past months about literature and teaching, and I shared with him what I wrote about Moby-Dick for the Oxford edition. My introduction focuses on the elasticity of the novel and its continued relevance for twenty-first-century readers, with new attention to Moby-Dick‘s queerness and its meditations on race, power, disability, and the environment.

>In eighth grade Mr Ronkowitz had a reputation for challenging his students, and he’s still got it. “I get it that we teach literature in the context of both its time and the reader’s time,” he wrote after reading my introduction, “but to discuss Ahab’s afflictions in the context of disability studies and ‘whiteness’ in the light of critical race theory and the Black Lives Matter movement would be tough for me….My ancient undergrad study was devoid of homoerotic discussions and more about biblical and mythological allusions in the novel and tons of symbolic dimensions of the novel.” Archetypes are undeniably powerful; in a recent general public discussion of the novel that I led, readers asked me repeatedly what the whale symbolized. But unlike a quiz show, novel reading is not keyed to a single answer, or even a single question. And not everyone has Mr Ronkowitz’s willingness to do the work of questioning traditional givens.

The editor, Hester Blum, is a literal tranny kek
https://blog.oup.com/2022/06/moby-dick-is-the-answer-what-is-the-question/

>>21493229
Fluff from some faggot in a tweed jacket tacking his own views and opinions onto the works of someone far greater than him to feel important.

>>21493340
Where the fuck is the semicolon?
Why is it so hard to just title the novel properly?

What do we think of Everyman's cover?

>>21493755
Where could I get a version of these classics that isn’t edited 100 times over to fit some faggot’s view on the world. I just want what the author wrote.

>>21493426
>video-game realism good
filthy *nglos

>>21493922
Semicolons in titles are kind of ugly. They're already doing an honorable thing by including the subtitle.

>>21493950
Anon, it's a publishing house which outsourced half its printing production to India and you'll frequently see pages with slightly bolder or thinner font than the previous one.
I don't think they should be in charge of what's ugly.

>>21493247
Are you implying I implied otherwise, you fascist bigot piece of shit?

>>21493976
lol

>>21493929
Don't think they're implying that the text itself was edited.
Just that the introduction makes an effort to cater to modern sensibilities

>>21493993
But how can one trust them?

>>21493411
To make it attractive for manchildren, they won't read it but they might just but it because it has le epic cartoon cover

>>21493426
Both are soulless trash for globohomo bugmen

>>21493926
It's good but I generally just throw away the dust jacket, they look better in a library without them

>>21493124
What's the best hardcover I can get for this ? I've been looking online and I can't decide.

>>21493926
it's alright. presentable. that said, this edition has no notes if anyone is looking to buy it consider this, it's only the main text.

>>21493229
Don't worry about it goy

judging a book by its cover
ngmi
only effects people who buy paperbacks
Lurk biz or reread Atlas Shrugged if you're going to be this concerned about accommodations for poor people

>>21494107
>>21493755

>>21493761
That was the point

>>21494116
blasphemy, unfortunately you'll have to tear a couple pages out and burn them for being gay when your copy inevitably gets covered in jelly and you have to buy this paperback propaganda pamphlet that someone dared to attach to the holy scripture.

>>21493929
The text isn't edited, don't be fucking retarded. It's just the introduction which is a completely separate thing, just someone with a degree talking about the book.

>>21494182
>The text isn't edited
But how can one trust them?
> just someone with a degree talking about the book.
A degree on faggotry?

>>21494182
He's not wrong to doubt an OWC edition though, their Shakespeare releases have modernized the text very heavily

>>21494107
i'm not judging the book, the book is the same on all editions, i'm just judging the cover for the cover, you still pay for the cover

Best edition coming through

>>21493229
Whale facts

>This trade edition of Moby-Dick is a reduced version of the Arion Press Moby-Dick, which was published in 1979 in a limited edition of 250 copies and has been hailed as a modern masterpiece of bookmaking. It was hand set under the supervision of one of America's finest book designers and printers. The initial letters that begin each chapter were designed especially for this book and christened "Leviathan." The illustrations, of places, creatures, objects or tools, and processes connected with nineteenth-century whaling, are original boxwood engravings by Massachusetts artist Barry Moser. The text of Moby-Dick used in this edition is based on that used in the critical edition of Melville's works published by the Northwestern University Press and the Newberry Library.

>This reduced version is smaller in size than the Arion edition and the California deluxe edition, but it includes all of the original pages and illustrations. It is printed in black only throughout, and it is not slipcased.

>>21494107
>effects
Esl

>>21494854
Native speakers are more likely to make that mistake. Like their, they're, and there.

>>21493815
>(((Blum)))

>>21494107
>not judging a book by its cover

>Luddites say we must stop AI art from developing
>This "art" is what we are fed instead
Hopefully, a new world awaits us

>>21493229
Ahab goes on rants about trannies.

>>21493755
>>21493124
>hester blum

>>21495213
Jewsplaining needs to stop. Do we really need a Jew to introduce literary works from Europe or the Americas? Like how Neil Gayman introduces every genre fiction book he can get his paws on.

>>21494869
>>21494854
saw it after the post, wanted to let someone else be pedantic.

>>21494226
>>21494876
Gives off vibes of people who care more about the album art than the songs or something.
The cover art is going to be there but it is not the thing that is experienced unless it's something you'll use as a furniture piece.
In such a case the value of the book to you and the subject of your judgement would be primarily dependent on the cover.
Anything other than a monochrome hardback with minimal designs is then a subversion of the content rather than an elevation.

I'm gonna read Moby Dick this year, boys

>>21495278
what are your thoughts on niggers?

>>21493124
the new cover looks fine

>>21493124
Next Edition: Herman Marvile; Mooby-Dyck
4th Ed: Her-man Marvel; Moovy-Dyck
5th Ed: Her Man Marvels; Movie Dick
6th Ed: Her Many Marvels; Immobile Dyke
.....and on it goes.

>>21493229
Smaller text

>>21495825
Final Edition: He Man and Mobsters of the Dickiverse

>>21495874
kek, don't forget 25th Anniversary Edition: Tranny Marbles; Dick-Mobile

Vintage Classics edition

>>21493378
What's the name of this style?
Also has someone got that greentext?

>>21496171
>What's the name of this style?

Corporate Memphis aka globohomo art style.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis

>>21496171
the official name is Alegria
the unofficial name is globohomo

>>21496183
did the kikes invent the term "corporate memphis" to get in front of the "globo-homo art" moniker?
this kikepedia article was only added in April 2021, as soon as (((Wired))) did an article on it

>>21493340
>>21493926
>>21494522
>>21496040
>showing the head of moby dick
Didn't read it, did they.

>>21494189
just buy a version that was made before like 2005. You shouldn't be buying new books from these publishers anyway, they use the classics to prop up modern dribble.

>not the California Press version

>>21496710
>first line
>call me Ishmael
>fuck...
brb reading the bible first

>>21496710
>It is a way I have of driving off the spleen
what did he mean by this?

>>21493755
I really wish covid had been the 15-30% mortality disease it looked like it could be at the beginning.

>>21495213
>>21495213
every single time

>>21493500
>muh abstract crap

>>21493340
the new penguin classics cover template is ugly as fuck. i don't know why they felt the need to change it in the first place; the old style is aging like wine. the only adjustment i would've made (if i had to) was maybe upping the font a size or two

>>21493124
Everything needs zoomersoi art in the current year. Get with the times, grandpa.

>>21497566
>zoomer
That's just unfair to zoomers, this is obvioulsy millennials. Everyone should admit their responsibilities.

>>21493229
Probably another one of those academic introductions which spoil the story and tell you how to interpret it

>>21493340
Penguin Classics is always the purest sign of kino

>>21493815
>And not everyone has Mr Ronkowitz’s willingness to do the work of questioning traditional givens.
What the fuck did this retard mean by this? His/her/xir's middle school teacher basically said "stop trying to frame things in today's politics" to this tranny retard and then xe turned it around and pretended like he was in support of xirtransintersectionalBIPOC interpretations.

>>21493702
I got the new signet one for Christmas. Not the worst cover but definitely not as cool as that old signet one.

>>21498343
nice, a globo-homoed sperm whale

>>21498460
>all simple designs are le globohomo
/pol/ brain rot

>>21496994
>Obsolete. this organ conceived of as the seat of spirit and courage or of such emotions as mirth, ill humor, melancholy, etc.
>ill humor, peevish temper, or spite.
I assume he means at this point that the spleen is responsible for his melancholy.

>>21493229
redpills on the JQ

>>21493124
lmao they gave it a chick lit cover

>>21496183
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>>21496216
Ty frens

>sperm whale
Kek

>>21498343
I bought the Wordsworth Classics one, and for once, it's not a lolcow meme cover.

Might as well drop this in the thread, since everyone's talking about cover art.

/lit/ version should have used this

>>21499922
Looks more like /a/ version. That dude looks like Naruto.

>>21499922
breddy gud ngl

>>21493247
If that's what makes for good lit, you can just read a /pol/ thread and skip novels.

>>21493229
The John Galt style rant I forced Melville to put in there at gunpoint. Time traveller, btw.

I have this one, the whale's expression is a bit silly but the book itself is a pleasure in the hand

>>21493124
Goddamn that cover belongs front and center at the table by the entrance of Barnes & Noble

>>21500000
Check ‘em.

>>21500010
9/11 was an inside dog.

>>21499912
This is my kind of seething.

>>21499984
He's had a long day.

>>21497734
>spoil the story
I hope this is bait, the story starts with Ishmael saying "I am the only survivor"

>>21493124
Better cover image tbqh, the left looks too obviously zoomed in and cropped and makes me want to just look at whatever source painting it is in full. Right is crisp and dynamic.

>>21499305
>spirit and courage
>emotions as mirth, ill humor, melancholy
>ill humor, peevish temper, or spite
those sound like totally unrelated emotions kek, i still have no idea if he was sad, angry, or a coward

>>21499922
looks great in general, except for making Ahab look like a qt with wanky legs

>>21493910
This.

>>21493702
me too, i heard it's not complete

>every single cover a variation of the same sperm whale tail/head
Jfc does the publishing industry outsource all their designs to sweatshops or something?

>>21501021
what would you put if not a whale? a piggie?

>>21493229
Guest chapter by Kanye West exploring how Ishmael was jew

>>21501026
I'd try to find a scene or imagery that manages to capture the essence of the book in a meaningful way. Something eye catching for someone who hasn't read the book, but has enough depth/reference/commentary that someone who has read the book will see it and smile.

It's not even that the whale is a bad cover, but it's been done to death. If I had to do a cover I'd probably do something like pic related.

>>21493229
the last 80 pages are microtransactions

>>21496040
What is Hitler doing there?

>>21500134
Spoiler dude.

>>21501082
looks good, but at the end of the day the only thing people know about the novel is "white whale", maybe "captain with fake leg" if they are very intellectual

>>21501170
>get your EXCLUSIVE Moby-Dick NFTs NOW

>>21496669
that's not mobi-dick, that's my cock

Bantam Classics has the best full spread cover. I just can't find it online.

>>21496710
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>>21494522
Is this the best hard cover you can buy ?

>>21502196
yes, the arion press edition was very limited and sells second-hand for 5 figures. California Deluxe edition for ~$1k.

you can get the California Press paperback, which is smaller and not in colour, for normal prices.

>>21502455
I'm thinking of going for california press hardback.

>>21493755
I'm sorry you're an illiterate retard but Moby-Dick absolutely grapples with all of those themes. Read the book before shitposting about it.

>>21494522
>bought this copy for my first readthrough
>was excellent, best way to read it
> my version is paperback
really wish I'd spent the extra money to get the best version, how was I supposed to know it would end up my favorite book?

>>21500134
No it doesnt

>>21493124
Best cover is 1930 Random House (reprinted by Modern Library)