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how does one live according to nature?

>> No.21470530

>>21470519
Suicide

>> No.21470559
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rape kill loot

>> No.21470562

>>21470519
What is nature?

>> No.21470571

>>21470562
A miserable little pile of secrets.

>> No.21470572

>>21470562
Commodity, Beauty, Language and Discipline.

>> No.21470578

>>21470572
Proof?

>> No.21470584

>>21470519
>Oh no my guts are spilling out and I'm going into hemorrhagic shock
>Just like don't think about it bro

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>>21470584

>> No.21470609

>>21470519
Go join a hunter gatherer tribe

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>>21470562
Blood & Soil. Everything else is superfluous.

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>>21470572
>Commodity
Nature, in its ministry to man, is not only the material, but is also the process and the result. All the parts incessantly work into each other’s hands for the profit of man. The wind sows the seed; the sun evaporates the sea; the wind blows the vapor to the field; the ice, on the other side of the planet, condenses rain on this; the rain feeds the plant; the plant feeds the animal; and thus the endless circulations of the divine charity nourish man.
>Beauty
The presence of a higher, spiritual element is essential to nature's perfection. The high and divine beauty which can be loved without effeminacy, is that which is found in combination with the human will. Every natural action is graceful. Every heroic act is also decent, and causes the place and the bystanders to shine. We are taught by great actions that the universe is the property of every individual in it. Every rational creature has all nature for his dowry and estate. It is his, if he will. He may divest himself of it; he may creep into a corner, and abdicate his kingdom, as most men do, but he is entitled to the world by his constitution. In proportion to the energy of his thought and will, he takes up the world into himself.
>Language
Words are signs of natural facts. The use of natural history is to give us aid in supernatural history: the use of the outer creation, to give us language for the beings and changes of the inward creation. Every word which is used to express a moral or intellectual fact, if traced to its root, is found to be borrowed from some material appearance. Right means straight; wrong means twisted. Spirit primarily means wind; transgression, the crossing of a line; supercilious, the raising of the eyebrow. We say the heart to express emotion, the head to denote thought; and thought and emotion are words borrowed from sensible things, and now appropriated to spiritual nature. Most of the process by which this transformation is made, is hidden from us in the remote time when language was framed; but the same tendency may be daily observed in children.
>Discipline
Words are finite organs of the infinite mind. They cannot cover the dimensions of what is in truth. They break, chop, and impoverish it. An action is the perfection and publication of thought. A right action seems to fill the eye, and to be related to all nature. “The wise man, in doing one thing, does all; or, in the one thing he does rightly, he sees the likeness of all which is done rightly.” Words and actions are not the attributes of brute nature. They introduce us to the human form, of which all other organizations appear to be degradations. When this appears among so many that surround it, the spirit prefers it to all others.

>> No.21470671

>>21470657
> All the parts incessantly work into each other’s hands for the profit of man.
What about cancer

>> No.21470681

>>21470603
Clearly he thought there was a problem (Vietnam war) otherwise he wouldn’t have lit himself on fire in the first place. Stoicism is probably the worst philosophy a political protester could have

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>>21470603
Sure thing anon, literally everyone is mentally ill

>> No.21470719

>>21470671
Every natural process is a version of a moral sentence. The moral law lies at the center of nature and radiates to the circumference. It is the pith and marrow of every substance, every relation, and every process. All things with which we deal, preach to us. But nothing in nature is exhausted in its first use. When a thing has served an end to the uttermost, it is wholly new for an ulterior service, just as when we, associated in adolescent and adult life with some friends, who, like skies and waters, are coextensive with our idea; who, answering each to a certain affection of the soul, satisfy our desire on that side; whom we lack power to put at such focal distance from us, that we can mend or even analyze them. We cannot choose but love them. When they have become an object of thought, and their character retains all its unconscious effect, and is converted in the mind into solid and sweet wisdom, it is a sign to us that his office is closing, and he is commonly withdrawn from our sight in a short time.

>> No.21470721

>>21470681
The image was a response to a statement that suggested pain could not be ignored. The monk shows that pain can be ignored.
You are correct that he lit himself on fire in order to protest a situation he wished to change, but that is a subtly different matter.

>>21470715
>literally everyone is mentally ill
A sane man (so-called) would disagree. Who is right? Maybe it is simply a matter of perspective, or opinion . . .

>> No.21470731

>>21470719
That doesn't answer the question

>> No.21471831

>>21470671
>nature is beautiful
>except for when it hurts humans
honestly you're either a woman or too young to understand.

>> No.21472869

>>21470519
Aim at the goals that you find compelling. Focus on the task at hand. Accept things you can't control, change those you can. Be content, realise if your not happy with enough, you'll never have enough. Make habits of calling to mind these things in any and all circumstances. This is what works for my nature. Yours may be different.

These things and more in Epictetus, the truly best stoic. See The Enchiridion.