/lit/ - Literature

>>21446962
Post a good passage.

>>21446962
It really doesn’t. I’d call it overrated shit but that would be implying anyone even rated this series and that’s the part that upsets you most, the fact that nobody could give less of a shit about 100,000 pages of unfiltered autistic trite.

>>21446962
I'm having a Mandela effect moment btw. I've always thought it was Malakazan.

>>21446962
>another reddit series with the prose of a high-schooler hyperfocused on autistic "world building" in long and dense books instead of putting any effort into making the story or characters or themes interesting
Y-yeah, if Tolkien were still around he would be shaking with fear

>>21447153
>hyperfocused on autistic "world building" in long and dense books instead of putting any effort into making the story or characters or themes interesting
thats what tolkien did though

>>21447230
Not even true, thoughfaggot. Tolkien has memorable characters and scenes.

>>21447230
Filtered

It has its flaws but if you managed to keep reading through the first book, it's decent. First book is really difficult to read but towards the end becomes simpler and more fun to read. I'm halfway through the second book in the series and it is pretty good. The Chain of Dogs chapters are pure unadulterated kino.

>female pov characters

That's going to be a no from me dawg

>>21447352
I agree chain of dogs is kino, but his philosophical writing and alot of the other meandering shitt hat fills the rest of the novels can be tiresome and unfulfilling

>>21447364
>cannot empathize with every living creature on the universe
low IQ

>>21447364
The blatant and routine feminism/inversion of normal gender roles/traits by book 10 was much worse.

Does the gods of chance bullshit ease up after book 1? I can't stand tarot card scenes as foreshadowing

>>21447379
Yes. There's only two scenes of cards in Deadhouse gates and i'm halfway through. It's also less cringe. god of chance isn't in the second book so far.

How does it compare to the Wheel of Time series?

>>21447364
>>21447377
Wait really? How bad does the female “girl power” shit get?

>>21447230
>>hyperfocused on autistic "world building"
Tolkien made shit up on the fly. He'd just been going at it for years before he wrote anything down so there was a lot of back content. Why do you think there are giants in the hobbit and vampires in the silmarillion

>>21446962
>Reading like the second chapter or something
>PoV character REPEATEDLY does such an 'epic burn' on another character it literally shuts them up for a long period of time
>The 'epic burn' is some of the blandest dumbest shit a child would say

Reminds me of another writer who thinks he's a hilarious badass, that Bakker guy who wrote Prince of NTR Assrape. Every time his giga Mary Sue tells a '''joke''' that is just a variation of 'dick sex lmao' and everyone in earshot laughs so hard they rupture a muscle and pledge eternal fealty to him.

>>21446965
>and then the demon ran up and crushed the barbarian man's head, the female mage looked on, the monster ate her, giant dogs killed people and guys in flying castles and giant dudes with swords, d&d campaign went off the rails
Poor man's Black Company! Sad!

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>>21448316
cope

>>21447153
Runs laps around JRR Posh-bong Christ-cuck in the themes department.

>>21448667
Silmarillion is posthumously published, at best it's stuff Tolkien never intended to release, more likely his grandsons fanfiction

>>21449150
Because he was writing mythology, not namby-pamby "themes" like an MFA dropout

>>21449366
Even the trilogy wasn't supposed to be released, because in the end, it's a pretty boring personal project.
It only got popular because it was long and not written by an illiterate.

You're posting this on /lit/ and comparing it to Tolkien so you're gonna get a lot of retarded responses but I do agree that the series is great.
comparing it to lotr is a zero sum game though, Erikson is an anthropologist and his autism becomes very apparent Memories of Ice onwards where the reader can start tracking the way the various species/races evolved and developed across the various locations ie the Teblor vs the Toblakai, Tolkien was much more oriented towards mythology.
I'll also say that-while thematically satisfying-the ending using the Forkrul Assail as the final baddies felt a bit out of nowhere/convenient.
Also: while I think Erikson is quite competent in his writing his actual prose skill only really starts to show in the back half of the series and especially in Kharkanas.

>>21446962
That's not Discworld.

>>21449640
Discworld is fun, it doesn't belong on /lit/.

>>21449640
>>21449734
Where should I start with Discworld, unironically? There is an overwhelming amount of books

>>21449526
>Because he was writing mythology
No he wasn't you retarded tolkiendrone

>>21449736
Any series start, or any book. They're all kind of readable on their own.
This is literally copied from the wiki.

im 3500 pages into this and it kinda sucks but I can't be bothered to read anything else

Books for this feeling?

>>21449767
Ok. So there's no "end" to Discworld?

>>21449774

>>21449553
>not written by an illiterate.
Putting it above 99.999% of fantasy

>>21449804
Of course there is, that's where the water falls off.

Post an excerpt on par with pic related and I will read your series.

>>21451833
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more sheshat, but the more sheshat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.

>>21446962
Erikson really likes fat assed women huh? almost every single female character is eaither thick of has a big butt.

>>21446965
abject misery lies not in what the blanket reveals, but in what it hides

-king tehol

>>21447377
dont read the karsa orlong book. so much SJW stuff oozing from it. i dont plan on ever reading that crap gain

>>21446982
did you mean "tripe"? Trite is an adjective

>>21448180
better, a lot better

>>21446962
Tolkien is better.

>>21452710
Sanderson could fucking write that.

>>21446962
>tfw you actually got memed into reading this

>>21447352
>if you managed to keep reading through the first book, it's decent
This poster is a fucking liar.

>>21446988
Lol retard

>>21447153
Malazan is mainly about theme tho.....

>>21447364
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>>21448195


NOOOOOO NOT FEMALES CHARACTERS IN MY FANTASY SERIES!!!! PLS ANON SAY IT AINT SO! AND SOME OF THEM ARE POWERFUL!? NOOOOOOOOOOO THIS AUTHORS A HACK FEMENIST!!!!!

>>21448180
Thats like comparing Harry potter to Lord of the Rings anon...

I barely recall anything about it and i've read it in it's entirety.
Dude loves his shitty perspective shifts.

>>21449736
Start from the first book. Just skip whenever you get to one of the shittier ones.

>>21453793
This but unironically

>>21449366
he meant to publish it together with lotr, retard
>>21449553
his publishers asked for a sequel to the hobbit; that's why he wrote lotr

can't you imbeciles get anything right?

>>21449736
start with mort and small gods. if you like those then try the rest in their series, and then the city watch books. if you do all that, then you're probably now a fan and you'll go for the rest.

Book 1 was decent but after that it turns into fantasy kino
Though to be fair Erikson seems to have pretty mid writing but he usually makes up for it with his autistic world building and the drama of characters and gods


Deadhouse Gates has a special place in my heart because of Coltaine
And me thinking "I can fix" Felisin

>>21447352
On /tvl whenever they talk about these books they always mention the chains of dogs. What the fuck is that?

>>21452726
Is it even possible to write a non pozzed book nowadays? I feel no publisher will even want to touch my fantasy novel with an incel protagonist.

>>21453734
No, because that was a dick joke.

>>21452062
Yeah it's clear he likes his women large.

>>21446962
While most of the criticisms anons have said in this thread are complete nonsense and they've clearly never read Malazan, I will still regard LOTR as the superior work because it finishes its story in about half a million words whereas Malazan is 3 and a half million words long. Seriously, FUCK Epic Fantasy. Worst genre of all time. Whoever started the idea that its fine to give a series 10 books and millions of words should be hanged

>>21446962
I think I got to book 4 before I abruptly dropped it. The first one was tough to get through because of the absolute monsoon of information you have to take in, digest, and categorise, but after that the second and third books were fun enough. As another Anon said, the Chain of Dogs sequence was excellent, and I thought Erikson's approach to magic (by way of Warrens) was one of the more creative ways of exploring magic I've encountered.

But then I finished the third book, and it was a fun time, so I started the fourth, and then just... stopped. I put it down around 3 chapters in and never picked it up again, nor have I had the inclination to do so. That was about 4 years ago. No idea what happened, but I completely lost interest in everything the story was offering me. I have friends who adore the series and will take any opportunity to talk about it, but I still haven't got even a spark of interest in continuing the story.

Whiskeyjack was a cool dude, though.

>>21446988
I think you're blurring the two of Malazan and Alakazam into a portmanteau. Both are magical set and settings, not really a Mandela effect.

>>21454065
Seconded

>>21454165
Its one of the major story arcs in the second books, basically it follows "The chain of dogs" (An army and a bunch of refugees) as they travel across the continent.

>>21446962
I've never read this. What's it about, OP? I like LOTR, so maybe I'll like this, too.

>>21449804
Not really. Pratchett had his hard drive deliberately destroyed along with all his notes, and his daughter is carrying out his wish that nobody ever writes or adapts Discworld nor continues it. The last book does wrap up a few storylines, though.

>>21452062
I will now read your book.

>>21455654
GTFO /tv/nigger

>>21455824
It's 10 books of different cultures genociding eachother, with most chapters being written like cryptic pieces of short fiction. Naturally, it's written by an anthropologist with a postmodern bent.

>>21453781
it WAS Malakazan

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>>21449150
No one will remember Martin, Bakker and Erikson, you filthy troons.

>>21449742
>tolkiendrone
The lingo of a Bakkertranny

>>21452726
Wasnt planning on reading it, im probably never reading this genre again, i cant believe i wasted a significant portion of my adolescence reading thousands upon thousands of pages of this crap.
>mbotf
>soiaf
>wot
>sword of truth
>rothfuss
JUST

>>21453793
Yes, i have no interest in being force fed your lackwit, hateful political opinions when trying to read a book. Especially when they have no grounding in anything objective and you think you're morally superior because of them.

>>21453053
this

>/pol/tards have arrived

>>21446965
He can’t.

>>21457615
As someone who also spent much time invested in many of these same titles before discovering actual literature, my suggestion is that you don't resent that time, but view it as a necessary step in your development as a reader and a person.