/lit/ - Literature

>>21442664
he was a liar

>>21442664
he probably confused it for the hundred other rags the millennials pestered him to speak about or read while he ignored them and thought about milton

Context?

>>21442675
>I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times.
He must have read a different book. The phrase, and variants of it, never appear in any of the seven books

>>21442684
The context is in a review of Harry Potter he claims he read the first book and noticed that every time a character walked, Rowling write that he “stretched his legs,” and he started making a tally mark for every instance but gave up after marking it several dozens of times.
The phrase doesn’t appear ever, in any of the seven books.

They probably went back and changed it in all the books to make him look bad. They do this kind of stuff to mess with people like what they did with the Berenstein Bears. I saw a documentary about this.

>>21442664
Yo WHAT THE FUCK LOL
>>21442684
>>21442706
This is actually damning, what a massive faggot. Imagine not being able to understand why kids or young people would prefer Harry Potter to Alice in Wonderland.

>>21442873
Meds

>>21442694
>I went to the Yale University bookstore
Did he really namedrop? lmfao, what a fucking loser.

>Taking arms against Harry Potter, at this moment, is to emulate Hamlet taking arms against a sea of troubles. By opposing the sea, you won't end it.
Who opens their essay with this reference? I know he loves Shakespeare but does he have to mention Hamlet for no reason in the first sentence? Like this is the cleverest thing he could come up with...
>It is much better to see the movie, "The Wizard of Oz," than to read the book upon which it was based, but even the book possessed an authentic imaginative vision. "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" does not, so that one needs to look elsewhere for the book's (and its sequels') remarkable success.
Wrong and retarded. Harry Potter oozes with imaginative vision. It is on every fucking page it's the last thing you'd criticize the series or author for.

The essay is total trash I bet he didn't even know who Diana Wynne Jones was.

It should be obvious to anyone who knows a bit about him that Bloom was a chronic liar.

>>21442987
Got any examples? I remember I fucking read this essay on Harry Potter and the stretched his legs line did seem weird to me because I don't remember noticing that dozens of times. What a fucking slob literally why would he do that?

>>21442980
never thought i'd see the day someone defends harry potter on /lit/.

in any case, you are engaging in an act of futility. critics are not to be admired, they are to be killed. critics are dragons. they breath flame, destroy communities, and they hoard treasure, fat on their foolhardy challengers.
bloom was an agonized genius dragon waiting, begging for someone greater than him to come and take his life with the great lance of literature, but none ever did. look to him now as a great anachronistic beast, bereft of his vital purpose, left to wither, to become the face of the mountain that was his lair. bloom bore his heart in these lies, these fantasies, but none ever pricked him, and if they did, they did it on the internet, a place he probably spent very little time attending to.

I remember reading the first book, quite bad, and the writing was terrible. Some line about “unstuck his face from the window” or something stands out.

>>21442994
The most obvious and oft repeated example is his claim that he could read 1000 pages in an hour which is obviously complete nonsense.

>>21443014
t. readlet

>>21443029
whoops, this was meant for >>21443022
this guy. sorry!

>>21443022
LOL I was not aware such a claim was made. Is that genuinely what he just said, that he reads 1000 pages an hour? So Harry Potter 1 took him like 22 minutes?

>>21443045
honestly, i easily read HP when i was 12 within 3 hours. not *totally* unbelievable if you're reading extremely easy writing. plus, there are confirmed readers with those abilities, like Kim Peek, who is pictured above, who could read each page with an independent eye, and had some ridiculous retention. we can all do such things, but there are inhibitors to this process. mostly the mechanisms responsible for engendering and sustaining the agent

>>21443054
Hp1 could be done in 3 hours sure. Is there really any point to speed reading literary fiction?

>>21443060
more time to read more literary fiction. we have limited lives, if you hadn't realized by now, you're in for a grave revelation

>>21443062
Meh, I like to think about what I'm reading a little. Bloom proves that reading literary fiction in extreme bulk in and of itself doesn't really achieve much. I've actually read a fair bit of his little essays because I have a collection of English language poems he curated and he introduces all the poets, and it never struck me that he had anything particularly interesting to say about any of them honestly, maybe besides a few he was really passionate about.

>>21443054
Sure, but that isn't really relevant in the case of Bloom because Bloom himself apparently had no means of surmounting those inhibitors any more than the average person. If he did then he'd probably have been much like Kim. Harry Potter certainly isn't something that would take long to read and retain but it's absurd for anyone who isn't a savant like Kim to claim they read 1000 pages in an hour when even the capabilities of regular, daily readers are well below this rate.

>>21443091
So this Kim guy must be the most well-read person on Earth then. Does he ever say or write anything interesting?

>>21443080
i like bloom as a figure i detailed above, a foe to destroy. he clearly had some aid by nepotism to achieve his position, but it's important to remember that we're just men. bloom is just as flawed as anyone else, but he did make an excellent list to describe the canon, and that is, in my opinion, his main contribution to literature. i also fell in line rapidly with the concept of the anxiety of influence, despite only reading the title.
again, just propping up the canon and its importance is enough. calling people to have some fucking standards for the books they cram into their gourds. he absolutely couldn't write. he told some massive fibs. he was a repugnant gnostic. there's a lot to want to break, and i think he's useful for that too.

>>21443094
Kim is a savant who suffers from agenesis of the corpus collosum and his process of reading is more akin to a machine than a reasoning human brain. He memorizes facts but doesn't have anything interesting to say about them.

>>21443096
I don't hate him either but this thread does highlight one of his worst ever moments. I liked that he stood up for legitimate standards.

>>21443094
kim lacked his corpus callosum, and was profoundly autistic. a savant, actually. he had some strange insights that were oft repeated phrases by his handler, but it was hard to interact with a creature like that, one devoid of the same capacity for agency as we have.
>>21443091
it's entirely possible that those limitations weren't present in bloom. i have no reason to suspect that there aren't those who have not only eidetic memories but ones that are capable of that level of rapid input. whether bloom was lying or not, i can't say, but it's certainly not *impossible*. kim peek holds the record at 1 per SECOND, that's 2600 pages over bloom's slim claim of 1000 an hour, so it's well within the realm of human abilities.

>>21443104
Oh I see

>>21443104
he did describe some interesting patterns, like his morse code 5 beethoven's fifth thing. whether or not there were deeper patterns lost because we couldn't understand him, i don't know.

>>21443106
Do you know if Kim was ever formally tested? Out of curiosity I tried looking it up but all I can seem to find are references back to an article in The Times and I can't seem to access the article itself.

>>21443141
i do not! it would probably be a worthwhile pursuit to dig up the formal testing, though it's probably considered patient confidentiality.

>>21443044
Kek I was confused

>>21443054
Three hours isn't 22 minutes, is it? The first is possible, the latter isn't.

>>21442664
Bloom has always been a massive faggot, i saw an interview with him a few years ago when he was on his last legs, this frail 200 year old looking man stuttering and mumbling looking like he wished he was anywhere else. The poor student interviewing him kept asking him questions about literature and Bloom just kept ranting about how Trump is a fascist. He's really a lesson that you never want to be someone who only reads and never writes, in his whole life he never had an original thought.

>>21443462
He was also a big jew whose favourite thing to harp on was muh antisemitism

>>21443451
3 hours at 12. i could probably race through the book in under an hour if i tried it now after a couple shots of bourbon. meanwhile, i've given you an instance of someone who *did* perform such feats, and you've ignored that, so i don't know what the fuck you want from me.
you think it's impossible because *you* can't do it, please stop projecting your incapacity on the world, it's unbecoming.
>>21443462
even before he was frail and old he never wanted to be interviewed. he was an enormous lovable autist jewish faggot and the most recent man to defend the western literary canon (specifically dead white men who are currently on the chopping block in literary academia) from the demoralizing tranny onslaught , and you're some piss-stain on a blue board who couldn't muster up the patience to look beyond your prejudices at what was worthwhile in the man.

>In an arbitrarily chosen single page--page 4--of the first Harry Potter book, I count seven cliches, all of the "stretch his legs" variety.
https://1xn.org/softspeakers/PDFs/bloom.pdf
He meant Rowling's reliance on cliches generally, not the exact cliche of "strech his legs". The editer probably tortured his phraseology in the Boston Globe review.

>>21442931
He was a professor at Yale dumb dumb.

>>21443478
No, it's simply not possible and was an exercise in chutpaz on Bloom's part, stop being retarded.

>>21443485
>it's simply not possible
a guy who couldn't tie his own shoes or use the restroom properly could read and recite some 12k books with 98% efficiency and you want to talk about what the human mind is capable of. you're a disgrace to the species.

>>21443479
No he very clearly says he marked an envelope every time the phrase was used and then gave up after making several dozen marks. He either randomly decided to lie about this knowing it could be easily fact-checked or he is misremembering having read a different book and attributing the phrases to The Philosopher's Stone.

*accuracy

>>21443491
Bloom didn't read 1000 pages an hour and even if he did which he didn't he didn't learn that much from supposedly reading tens of thousands of the greatest books ever. He can't even really write an essay.

>>21443495
>he reads to learn and not for pleasure
lookee here at this utilitarian faggot.

>>21442664
Hasn't he been caught lying before?

>>21443498
I read for pleasure and to learn things. It's criminally retarded to say that there's no imaginative vision in Harry Potter. It shows he couldn't really read himself. And it's a bit odd for someone who reads 1000 pages an hour to read only the first book before critiquing the series (I don't know how many were written at the time of his 35 million readers essay.)

>>21443503
i'm going to be frank with you.
the point of his obvious hyperbole is to have standards of reading. harry potter is a low bar to set on what we give to our children to read, and it shows in the quality of the generations that followed. furthermore, i wouldn't doubt for a second that the 1000 pages an hour thing was a gag to shit on people who treat literature as some sort of race. the issue i take here is whether or not it's physically possible for a human to read and retain literature at such a rate, and it's not only possible but has been recorded at least once, though the records might take some digging, as an above anon pointed out. my issue is not with bloom's own veracity, i can't know what was truly in his mind, but to say mankind is incapable of something simply because it's either not common or because one can't do it themselves is facile enough for me to respond with ridicule. take what you will of this.

>>21442664
He said he could read 1k pages per hour. He was full of shit. He's only respected because his work on Shakespeare is alright and compared to the school of resentment at least he defended canonical literature.

>>21443516
Harry Potter isn't a low bar in the genre whatsoever. It's very good and appeals to the target audience like no other book series ever written on the basis of its extreme strength.

>>21443493
Because an editer at the Boston Globe butchered the line or he miswrote it. In his other writings on Harry Potter, like for the Wall Street Journal in pic, he's clear that he's referring to Rowling's general reliance on cliches, not just one in particular, and that "strech his legs" is an exemplar of her hackneyed writing. The correct intented meaning in the Boston Globe article is that he chalked up cliches *like* "strech his legs" and stopped counting after a few dozen.

>>21443503
also, if you were able to read 1k an hour, and were say, forced to remember a great deal of it, would you want all of harry potter stuck in your head, banging around? perhaps once he read the first book it so muddled him that he lost his ability to exercise his great feats of memory, scorched as he was by its inanity.

>>21443491
Dumb dumb child, back to >>>/v/

>>21443525
harry potter is a low bar in literature, which bloom was clearly a staunch supporter of. trying to change the goalpost here, and saying that bloom was gauging the work on the standards of young adult fantasy genre fiction is dishonest, and i would even go further to argue that even on that point, it's quite a low bar. just because it was popular doesn't mean it's of quality, or good for the people who consume it. look at fentanyl. extremely popular. they say people can't get enough of it.

>>21443526
>page 4
Uh oh bloomhaterbros did we get too cocky?
>>21443527
>rowling sears another psyche
All in a days work

>>21443536
>Harry Potter is a low bar in literature
No it isn't.

>>21443096
>he clearly had some aid by nepotism to achieve his position
And here we go. 4chan love their antisemitism, don't they? Fuck off.

>>21443541
it absolutely is. unquestionably. it is F Grade garbage.

>>21443525
Why read, if what you read will not enrich mind or spirit or personality?

>>21443462
Bloom was only allowed to be the gatekeeper of the canon because he was jewificating it anyway.

>>21443544
>>21443543
It will enrich those things. It's a good story.
>f grade garbage
Okay what's the A grade stuff for kids to read

>>21443546
Alice in Wonderland, Charlotte's Web, The Hobbit, Treasure Island, The Little Prince, The Jungle Book, Tom Sawyer & Huckleberry Finn, the list goes on

>>21442664
He was making a joke about the unnecessary word filler in the HP books.

>>21443553
The books you picked are much more interesting to adults than to children. And are literally exactly what Bloom would have said...

You're not a ghost are you anon?

>>21443546
>a book about sorcery
>enriching the spirit

>>21443562
Well come on Harry is sort of Jesus-like he dies and comes backs

>>21443538
>pointed and gazed open-mouthed
>important telephone calls
>strech his legs
>eyed them angrily
>that's right, that's what I head
>stopped dead
>fear flooded him
>snapped at his secretary
>stroked his mustache
It's mechanical writing, she used cliches as a crutch.

>>21443556
So demonstrably false that I won't even bother spoon feeding you.

>>21443561
it's almost as if the bar has been lowered so far that children must have their heroin in print instead of wholesome content with complex themes, challenging words, and inspiring subtext that reaches far beyond the schlock peddled to our youths today!

and funny you should say that, i saw Harold Bloom in my car door mirror the day he died before i found out. i looked in the mirror and instead of my face, i saw his. it shocked me, and i still remember it to this day. you may laugh, but it's the truth. in any case, i understand that you liked harry potter, probably grew up reading it. i read it too, i was 12 when it came out, ffs. i understand the appeal, but when i look at it now, i understand that it is not a quality text, and that i would have been far better served spending that time reading works of higher quality, it was several years later before i finally fell in love with literature, and i consider much of that time wasted, gazing at the cheap baubles shoved down my gullet by a wicked and vapid society more interested in a paycheck than helping to nurture the enterprising minds of its own future generations.

>>21443578
I was 6 when it came out but I don't remember when I read it, but I do remember it was a Christmas present from my grandmother ^.^
>communicating with the ghost of harold bloom on the day of his departure
That's weird anon
>schlock
You didn't mention Narnia which is the best in genre. Rowling and like Jones are very good at that age and all 3 are very readable as adults. Parents ended up liking it nearly as much because it's a good and engaging story in a comfy and very enjoyable world to spend time in.

>>21443570
The first book especially is written for a younger audience. She is always describing amusing and interesting scenes is what's more important.

>>21443595
what's the best book ever written, anon? this isn't a gotcha, this is just something i genuinely want to know, so i can understand you better. what do you think is the best written novel ever? please answer honestly. i won't make fun or attack you (though other people here might, but fuck them, they genuinely don't matter) it will aid me immeasurably if you tell me.

>>21443608
Alice Munro in general. If I had to pick a single collection it'd be Runaway. Novel is probably The Master and Margharita, but I like quite a few novels. That one I've read more recently than some others I might mention.

>>21443608
>>21443613
Actually maybe The Once and Future King. I probably wouldn't say it's perfect or the best book ever since there are a few parts I'm not crazy about.

>>21443613
You're a girl, aren't you? Are you cute?

>>21443621
I'm a guy

>>21442664
>>21443538
Explain, OP

>>21443613
I see, thank you for being honest.
For me, the canon has been important to my wellbeing. I was locked away in a prison cell when I first looked to literature for comfort, in a juvenile *prison*, filled with child murderers, shit eaters, maniacs. My only solace was literature, and when, on occasion, I couldn't read the works my mother had sent to me, I had to read other things, whatever was in the little book cart they'd shuffle down the aisle. There is a certain point you reach when you read great works, where you can't go back. I won't say that I'm the happiest person in the world because I've been exposed to literature, but I wouldn't be alive, probably robbing or killing or a relentless addict doing all and more.
To some of us, literature is a way of life, and I think it might be a mistake to push so many people to follow it as closely as I have, you have your stages of development in this life, and I have mine. It's much better to remember this. Me bullying you won't change your mind, and you won't change mine.
Bloom is someone i feel a kinship with. Seeing people deride him simply for holding the torch of the canon boils my blood, because that very canon saved my life. Seeing people praise books like harry potter fills me with dread, because I see how narrowly I escaped such a fate, that if i had to rely on Harry's adventures to console me in my most dejected moments, I would not have lasted. Books, Literature, these phantoms who have left their words on the page for people like me, they are my dearest of friends, and I will not smile and nod whilst people burn them to ash, replace them with meaningless forgeries. I know you might sneer at this and I don't mind it.
Keep reading, anon. challenge yourself one of these days, you might be surprised. Even if you don't, that's fine too. we all have our own lives to lead.

>>21443642
I read classics too. Like I said I don't disagree with you about Bloom defending those books being a good thing. Harry Potter has a lot of merit. The Hobbit is the closest thing to Harry Potter you had on your list and I would agree that it's probably better.

>>21443542
He can stay. Also learn English.

>>21443595
Fuck off you dumb pleb

>>21442664
>Harold Bloom
>He was raised as an Orthodox Jew in a Yiddish-speaking household, where he learned literary Hebrew
He's a born liar who hates when goyim write successful books and not his psyop slop.

>>21443678
I won't do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLBXe3z9zx8

bloom breathed his poetry, he bled it. he merely wished to share a love. judge but forgive him for his clumsiness in treating a depthless world with lead plumb if only he might hook a fish or two; that he may lead them to the surface and above, and see their glass eyes greet the haze shrouded morning from his boat.
who are any of you to deny this man the triumph of piercing the veil? bastards all.

>>21443667
>Also learn English.
No. You learn hebrew, bitch.

>>21443891
look yid, i forgive you, so let's find peace already. we have had our differences, but it's clear that where we're headed won't be the merry way.
what say you to an armistice? not peace, but patient ceasefire? i don't wish to fight you anymore, but i will not swallow the debts that you must pay. i am the union of two emerged as one, and i am heavy as a millstone round your neck should you not swim away from me. dare you continue this path? dare you truly?

he was a jew

>>21443912
and you would sever your nose to spite your face

>>21443478
I dont know, what was worthwhile in him? That he meekly protested against attacks on the western canon while taking his place among the academic elite that allow and encourage it to happen in the first place? Bloom was just a useful idiot.

>>21443621
He’s the McCuckers-Roony troon who spams pics of Dasha and Lana and now is fixated on Munro.

I read the Scholastic print in 1999 and it definitely had overuse of 'he stretched his legs'. That newer editions have been revised of it after Mr. Bloom's scathing observation is unsurprising and makes me content.

>>21443538
>OP gets proven wrong yet again
Why is OP such a faggot EVERY SINGLE TIME? Why do you lie on the internet?

>>21442664
Nobody knows, it's just part of the lore.

>>21444007
writing several books and literally establishing "the western canon" as it is known today is hardly a meek protestation, but i give you that it only did so much. regardless, all that needs to be held is one torch for the flame of literature to survive in the hearts of man. if you knew how many times it was reduced to just a fragile ember, you'd know that even his actions were vital.

>>21442882
I don't understand why they do, could you explain it please?

>>21442882
yes, give children what they want instead of what they need. sign of a quality parent.

>>21444048
Someone needs to do William Blake version of these where he sees angels in the sun, ghosts of fleas, and old men in the weeds.

>>21442664
>Why did Harold Bloom just lie
>Early Life
>Every Time

>>21443929
I'd sever a jew's nose maybe.

Bloom was a fraud. If you read his books, you realize he couldn’t write, couldn’t critique, couldn’t teach, and didn’t even have good taste. He got notoriety just for defending the canon in an era where people were reading less and less classic literature. His attitude was basically pretentious and that seemed to be enough to land him a job at Yale.

>>21444405
He's the Glenn Gould of literature

>>21443479
3.25 pages of cuckery that I could barely get through. Sure, HP is not high value reading, but it was a lot of fun as a kid. And I reckon it still would be a fun read, no worse than other contemporary fantasy garbage out there. He basically retold the main plot and added sly remarks about it not being on the level of the greats. The "yale prof" should do an autism test.

>>21444405
>defended the canon
>he akchtually did not have good taste
Retard

>>21442664
>>21442675
>>21442694
>>21442706
He was a pathological liar. I was listening to his interviews back to back whilst cleaning. In one of them he says he met his uncle on the street when he was a little boy and told him he wants to be a professor of poetry, and the uncle makes some sort of half-hearted response. In the other telling of the story it is the uncle who tells him that he should become a professor of poetry. Exact same story, completely opposite details. Who knows what else he’s lying about?

>>21445217
Well that could just be misremembering. He got old.

>>21442664
> <pronoun> <verbed> <adverbly>

Rowling's greatest crime wasn't her poor prose but sowing the seeds of class guilt and identity politics into the minds of innocent children with her 'sorting houses by temperament' bullshit. Putting the bloodline purists/elitists in the dungeon because they somehow all bear Salazar Slytherin's original sin turned them into a self-fulfilling prophecy. She instigated this culture war.

>>21442664
>Why did Harold Bloom just lie about Harry Potter?
Unironically because he's a jew.

What was Rowling's tax policy? What would her policies be if evidence were presented that muggleborns have less magical power or that mixed blood families have a higher chance of giving birth to squibs? Would she ban mixed blood marriages? Segregate muggleborns into different school districts? What if Squibs self identify as wizards?
It's all nice and simple when you deal with an idealistic world where everything's perfect.

>>21445205
>>21444405
As a critic what contemporary literature did he really push? If anyone knows

>>21442664
He's a Jew and reacted instinctively to Rowling's unsubtle antisemitism.
>wizard's bankers are goblins with huge noses who had previously rebelled over denial of seats on the Wizengamot or lack of wand privileges
She's not even trying to hide it

>>21445650
Was that actually intentional? What else did she do I haven't read them in forever

It's a shame because his point is valid. The writing in the Harry Potter books is full of cliches. As for why he would lie about something so specific that is so easy to verify, I can only assume that he misremembered either (1) the specific phrase that he kept a tally of while reading "Harry Potter", or (2) the particular book he was reading when he made a tally of "stretched his legs". Either way, it shows laziness and arrogance to make such a blatant error and never to bother to correct it. This statement demonstrates a wider truth about Harold Bloom - that he cared far more about being a pompous public edgelord in the mass media than he did about making meaningful, accurate contributions to the study of literature. While I strongly agree with his overall point (that a certain brand of serious literature targeted at adults is worth valuing and preserving), I can't help but feel that Bloom is a terrible representative of the cause. A defender of mankind's intellectual achievements need not be an elitist, but Bloom was apparently so crass in his worldview that he couldn't tell the difference. Sad.

>>21445703
See for the origin of the mistake >>21443526
The intended meaning is he counted cliches *like* "strech his legs*, not just that cliche alone, and stopped after a few dozen. The proper meaning is apparent from his other Harry Potter reviews, either Bloom made a mistake in his draft for the Boston Globe or an editer there butchered the sentence into the incorrect meaning.

>>21445187
>newspaper article by Bloom hurt my head
That's because you're braindead, as you admit by outing yourself as a genre fiction and YA reader. You have no taste to be able to judge, you do nothing but eat shit, and complain when others tell you you are eating shit.

Kek OP btfo’d by a single screenshot

>>21445900
I've read better toilet paper descriptions, Bloom is a hack and I lost all respect for him. Bro thought he really did something by rewriting the main plot in a snarky way and adding two paragraphs of generic thoughts.
But do tell me why you are on his dick.

>>21447786
No you haven't lol. Coprophagia is not lit, read works of literary merit and cultivate a literary taste.

>>21443141
He has been psychologically tested if that's what you mean. The Wikipedia page says:
>In psychological testing, Peek yielded superior ability in the performance sub-tests and limited ability in the verbal sub-tests, leading his overall IQ of 87 not to be considered a valid measure of his cognitive ability.

The source is no longer available

>>21447981
>read works of literary merit and cultivate a literary taste

>>21443578
>and that i would have been far better served spending that time reading works of higher quality
Literature is not something you start at "higher quality levels" if you never build up an interest in reading you would never even consider reading something more complex or less "fun".
But the very fact that you enjoyed reading has opened up your horizon to quality works you would have never given a second glance before.
At least that's how it was for me.
I don't look back at my youth where i read low grade shit that i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole today and think "yeah i wasted my time"
I look back on it and i am glad that i gave it a try when instead i could have just as well spent my time playing tomb raider on the ps1.

Reading fun but bad works can and often is a first and essential step without which a lot of people will never go further.

>>21443014
How the devil is that bad??

>>21442882
I liked both just fine when I was a youngin.

Rowling-chads...I think we're winning...

>>21442873
>I saw a documentary about this.
theyve deleted the documentary..

>>21449740
We always do