/lit/ - Literature

>>21421286
This thread is worthless and you are an idiot.

>>21421288
who is the idiot? are you the idiot??

>>21421288
fpbp

>>21421286
That's something a character in his novel said, not him.

>>21421286
Under the Abrahamic God everything is still permitted, all that changes is an earnest repentance and embrace of Christ can absolve you of your Earthly sins, what is moral about that?

>>21421288
>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propaganize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life.

>>21421361
Everything you have said is true and he has helped hundreds of thousands of men find their way to a better life. But those times are fading, the willful blind spot in his world-view is becoming more and more apparent the more he talks and shares his opinions.

He has repeatedly condemned any sort of ethno-nationalism, yet publicly declares support and admiration to a crowded venue full of Zionist Jews in Israel, the most ethno-centric nation the world has seen. He deplores cultural-collectivism, yet espouses admiration for the greatest thinkers of the West who heartily endorse and supported the very thing he protests. He is rapidly becoming the biggest hypocrite in the public eye right now, and it is terribly saddening because he once spoke with such truth, passion and clarity.

>>21421286
Honestly, to me it seems like "atheists" are more often obnoxious moralfags than Christians. Perhaps it is possible that for many people, without God, nothing is permitted; whereas you retain a sort of supranatural freedom when you believe in the transcendental which might push you beyond basic ethical concerns. Though, I think most "atheists" are implicitly theological - in the worst sense - insofar as they naively take positivism and physicalism for granted. The irony of most "secular humanists" is that they insist on maintaining a rational regime with no actual law giver or base, and so it becomes very muddied and confusing. If you question it at all, it completely crumbles. Not to say you should be religious; I personally am an atheist. Just saying that most atheists really couldn't rationally justify why they consider something like murder to be wrong, and so you have a weird phenomenon where they reactively double down on their moral predispositions and force them on others in order to cope with this reality.

>>21421286
Anyone with over 115iq promoting Christianity to any degree are just doing it for political reasons.

>>21421608
>Anyone promoting Christianity is doing it for political reasons
Fixed it.

>>21421361
>accidentally became internationally famous
>accidentally
That's literally not true

>>21421288
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>21421286
With God everything is permitted.
Scripture can be interpreted in any which way. This is not to say christfags are just as bad cause they are actually worse. At least the atheist fag has to negotiate with others for his belief system to be adopted. Christfags on the other hand will tell you they are acting based on God's words that are objective. There is no way someone with a belief system as rigid as that will back down.

>>21421288
Fpbp

>>21421286
Yes there is no god, no objective morality, and no free will. Nobody can be held responsible for what they do (they still wil though because society demands it.) Truth is subjective, a whore to be used and thrown away when you’re done with it. Hey it’s better than christcuckery.

>>21422705
Imagine being a midwit and believing these lies out of cowardice and to feel "in the know". Hard to believe people willingly delude themselves into this. You would think a statement like "there is no free will" would merit an investigation that would lead a person to see the original studies that actually in no way deal with free will and in no way prove that there is no free will. Yet a person reads that statement and adopts it as truth without any critical thought simply because it appears to be cool and allows one to be a mediocre worm because nihilisim. We live in the century of such people, smug and cowardly mediocrity.

>>21421286
The fact of the matter is most people,even atheists, still hold morals and behavioural patterns and lifestyle that have a grounding in a belief in God. Heck Richard Dawkins even calls himself a cultural christian. The atheist doesn't believe in God yet a large part of him behaves as if there is one which leads to his confusion.

There actually are atheists though who derive their morals from a world where God doesn't exist.

>>21422724
Nice strawman faggot

>>21421347
This no different to the Pagans (actually, Pagans don't even have hell so it's worse). The one exception is the Egyptians.

>>21421286
Without God nothing exists.

With God, everything is permitted. But that doesn't mean that actions don't have consequences.

>>21422705
I agree with you that all things we consider to be incovertible truths are actually built on really shaky foundations but how do you get away with the paradox?
When you say there are no objective truths, is that an objectively true statement?

>>21421286
People always interpret this line as if God was was nothing more than the representation of a set of rules. but that's a very very shitty intepretation, childish almost. "hurr durr if society becomes atheist we'll all start killing each other without repercussions of any kind"
peterson's a fucking idiot

>>21424096
That's what fpbp said, you don't have to keep bumping this dread.

>>21422806
It is far worse as there is one simple act that can wash away all manner of sin and punishment. If you commit the most heinous crimes and the most disgusting acts you can still swagger your way to paradise if you seek God before death. Why Death is the stopping point i do not know. In other pre-Christian faiths there is not this immoral trapdoor.

>>21421286
>Peterson
literal atheist

>>21421286
Professor Petersen, have you read Dostoevsky's memoir about exile in Siberia?

>>21421286
inb4 GR schizo

>>21421286
>mean by this?
He meant that he is mentally ill

>>21421286
Dostoevsky is not an atheist

>>21425567

>>21421286
>without God everything is permitted,
Dostoevsky never actually said this

THE HEBREWS CREATED HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!!
THE HEBREWS CREATED HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!!
THE HEBREWS CREATED HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!!
THE HEBREWS CREATED HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!!
THE HEBREWS CREATED HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!!

>>21425721
Ivan Karamazov did.

>If there's no sky daddy watching you when you murder a child then why don't you do it huh? evil nazi bastards
sasuga peterson

>>21422705
>Nobody can be held responsible for what they do (they still wil though because society demands it.)
With no free will, responsibility doesn't seem a coherent concept anyway.

>>21425497
lmao

>>21421288
I love it when the first post is the best post.