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I need a book that debunks Islam.
I want it to have history about how Muhammad came to be and geopolitics.
Also if you know any books about pro-shia and bad-sunni-islam that would be cool

>> No.21372291

>>21372280
>I need a book that debunks Islam.
Reading a religion's holy book is often the best way to realize its bull

>> No.21372302

Shia are pro tranny Anon. Why would you want to shill for them when you don’t believe it and why do you care about arguing against Islam? Be very careful, I too sought to argue against Islam and I was consumed by the effort so much I ended up becoming convinced by Islam and becoming a Muslim

>> No.21372315

>>21372280
The Silent Qur'an and the Speaking Qur'an by Amir-Moezzi

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>>21372280
>about those thousands of dark passages and arbitrary interpolated diacritics resulting in dozens and dozens of versions of 'The' text
It has the provenance of Moronai tablets, but picrel if you really must satisfy your curiosity
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1zJ2LUq92EkBQpJlVHK2vb7YigCcmzP7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gC-7ozOXAw&list=PL_jc4ocGMeQnOGgUe4E_OVBFtY64JWHGY

>> No.21372339

>>21372302
because I wanna understand why they diverged, and the divergence relation to the corruption of sunni-islam

>> No.21372345

>>21372334
This book is not taken seriously by the western orientalist scholars by the way. Whimsical speculations with no scholarly rigor.

>> No.21372359

>>21372339
The Shia-Sunni beef originated very simply with the people who killed Uthman. From those people you got both the Shia as well as the Khawarij, however the Shia of today bear as little resemblance to them as the Ibadi do to the original khawarij.

>> No.21372541

>>21372280
Nine Parts of Desire. It's based beyond belief. Can't recommend it enough.
>As a prizewinning foreign correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, Geraldine Brooks spent six years covering the Middle East through wars, insurrections, and the volcanic upheaval of resurgent fundamentalism. Yet for her, headline events were only the backdrop to a less obvious but more enduring drama: the daily life of Muslim women. Nine Parts of Desire is the story of Brooks' intrepid journey toward an understanding of the women behind the veils, and of the often contradictory political, religious, and cultural forces that shape their lives. Defying our stereotypes about the Muslim world, Brooks' acute analysis of the world's fastest growing religion deftly illustrates how Islam's holiest texts have been misused to justify repression of women, and how male pride and power have warped the original message of a once liberating faith.

>> No.21372558

>>21372541
A journalist for a neocon paper hmm

>> No.21372574

>>21372280
Summa Contra Gentiles by St. Thomas Aquinas

>> No.21373532

>>21372280
>I need a book that debunks Islam.
>Also if you know any books about pro-shia and bad-sunni-islam that would be cool
Are you soft in the head?

>> No.21373568

>>21373532
nigga no they're unrelated that's why I didn't put them in the same sentence
I just wanted different things from both sides

>> No.21373584

>>21372280
Historians don't "debunk" things other than non-historical claims of producing history.

>> No.21373586

>>21372345
>orientalist scholars
These people are shouldn't be taken seriously to begin with.

>> No.21373588

>>21373568
Most of the books that tries to debunk Islam always come up with the "spread by the sword" argument or that Mohammed never even existed.
Examples are :- In the Shadow of the Sword: The Birth of Islam and the Rise of the Global Arab Empire

-The Preaching Of Islam; A History Of The Propagation Of The Muslim Faith

But that's just history,i never came across books that discusses the theology of Islam compared to Christianity,As for shia books sry i have none

>> No.21373602

>>21372280
>Arab man claims God spoke to him.
Imagine needing an entire book to debunk this. Especially when said man was a pedophile.

>> No.21373660

Islam turns me on so much.

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>>21372280
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=2FF2E480096BB12298942C0BC5F3765B
just take a glance at the table of contents.
btw just forget about the shia thingie, what u want is to see more sufistic elements. the sunnis i assure u most of them are already fearmongered against shiaism much more than sufis.
>>21372302
u just havent researched lots of other things enough. sacred-texts.com should be a good start.
>>21373660
i too love the imagery of an arabian sultan surrounded by his almost naked women in his palace, and getting to fuck a different maiden every night. i think even not being a king but living in palace u still will get your share of pussies. too bad those times were long gone though, now all we have are just slaves, hypocrite ustaz, unironic anti-gay cunnyseekers (surprising contradiction), and hylic wahhabis.

>> No.21373735

>>21373684
the niqab has ruined me into wanting an insane schizo bitch kidnapping me and being a mommydom for me
being a sultan sounds boring to me

>> No.21373988

>>21373586
Why?

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>> No.21374001

Whites becoming Muslims is the tackiest thing ever.

>> No.21374004

Look up Sam Shamoun on youtube. The man might be insane, but his knowledge of and photographic memory relating to the Qur'an and the Bible are unparalled

>> No.21374081

>>21373602
>>Arab man claims God spoke to him
Yes?
>pedophile
not an argument

>> No.21374330

>>21374081
>>pedophile
>not an argument
Oh yes it is.

>> No.21374633

>>21374081
Why would a good God choose a pedophile of all people to be his messenger?

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>>21372280
>I need a book that debunks Islam.
just be smug and tell Mohamed is god doesn't exist

>> No.21374828

"Why I am not a Muslim" Ibn-al-Warraq (pseudonym). written by an apostate.

>> No.21375101

>>21372280
>deboonk
woman detected

>> No.21375375

>>21372541
>feminism

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>>21372280
You should read the lessons by the famous Professor Kafir, they are a good starting point

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>>21375418
You might find this lesson in particular useful as it provides a resume of Muhammad's rise to power

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>>21375457
>>21375464
Well, I don't know what happened to the files resolution and I cannot delete these posts but anyway, just look up Professor Kaffir on the /pol/ archives and you will find the rest of the lessons.

>> No.21375650

>>21372280
>debunks Islam
No.
>pro-shia and bad-sunni-islam
Sunnis are out brothers and sisters.

>> No.21375864

>>21372280
Islam literally debunks itself. How many contradictions are in the Quran alone, let alone the Sunnah and ijma? Legitimately the most insane idiotic religion founded by a sexually depraved man. I don't belive in Buddhism, but I at least have respect for Buddha's love of all sentient beings. He genuinely wanted to so good although he was misguided. Mohammed was literally just an arrogant insane sex pest that used religion as a means to gain power. For actual recommendations, look into the Satanic Verses. Legit some of the funniest shit I have ever read/seen.

>>21375650
Cope

>> No.21375874

David brubaker (guess I messed up the last name) the book is titled "the variant Quran", there's also a YouTube channel by the same name

>> No.21375909

>>21375650
Umar and Abu Bakr رضي الله عنهما are your brothers?

>> No.21376010

>>21375909
No they betrayed the words of the prophet and Ahl Al Bait and the Bay'ah, and led to the miscarriage and death of Fatima Al-Zahra', and her refusal to forgive betrayers (even according to sahih al bukhari) and that her final wish for them to not attend her burial is more than enough for me. We do not think the sahaba رضي الله عنهم are infallible and dislike muawiyah and yazeed obviously, but I and most Shia still respect Abu Bakr and Umar and I will not needlessly criticize them or insult them out of respect for my fellow muslims and sunnis who do not hold the same view, the same way drawings of prophets and imams and such are not haram for shias if it does not lead to idoltary but we hide them and try not to display them to sunni neighbors or when a sunni is visiting purely out of respect for our brothers and sisters who believe it is haram.

>> No.21376014

>>21376010
Then you are not our brothers anymore than someone who insults and slanders Ali رضي الله عنه is

>> No.21376032

>>21376014
That's too bad I believe you are muslim and will enter heaven inshallah and are my brother regardless what think about the dislike certain sahaba رضي الله عنهم

Also you don't live in a muslim country do you?

>> No.21376045

>>21376032
Believing anyone will enter heaven is against Islam (except those few promised it by the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم ). So is believing anyone will enter hell. Those who die on unbelief we know are in hell. Those who die apparently on belief we pray for.

>> No.21376086

>>21376010
The guy you're talking to is a notorious wahhabi who hates Shias. Don't bother with him. Regardless, it is doubtless that certain sahaba apostated and will go to hell.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6585

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>>21376086
t.

>> No.21376109

Don't really need a full book to get at why it's weird to think some guy talked to an angel in a cave 1500 years ago

>> No.21376112

>>21376106
No matter how many twitter svreenshots you post, those sahaba are apostates will go to hell according to your own book. Now go back to your twitter and be a tranny there.

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>>21376112
t.

>> No.21376211

>>21376045
I don't personally assume any singular person will enter heaven and I believe no person can have knowledge of that except Allah which is why I said "Inshallah".

>>21376106
Brother the (only) serial killer to ever exist in my country was a sunni man, but that does not reflect on my sunni brothers and sisters.

>>21376119
Grasping at straws

Also answer my question. Do you live in a muslim country? Because most of the people like you do not live in a muslim country or are converts/reverts and all respect to them and may allah guide them but they are ignorant of such matters.

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>>21375457
Say no more senpai

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>>21376298
Islam is a backwards death cult that is literallt just the medival version of the hypersexual, hyperviolent, anti-human Caananite religion. Prove me wrong.

>> No.21376350

The Muhammad Code by Howard Bloom.
Yes, he is Jewish. His book is less about deboonking Islam but it goes into the horrors of what Muhammad actually did and how militant Islam became a thing. Make sure to pirate it, physical copies can be expensive.

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>>21372280
>I need a book that debunks islam
T.

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>>21376732
>t. Butthurt dunecoon
Your religion is so abhorrent you managed to piss of the most peaceful variety of Buddhists out there

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>>21376744
The same people who were nazis and fascists? The same people who had occupied Burma (aka myanmar the country of the speaker) and the same people which currently have the one of the highest income differences in the world, rank in one of the 20 worst in the world for human development, and are engaged in one of the worst ethnic violence and cleansing in the world, and the same people that had *literal* slaves until China banned the practice and continue to speak to the west about how banning that is "authoritarian"? Muh peaceful Buddhism is some bullshit only dumbass westoids believe. Go read on the explanations given by Buddhist scholars and how they explain away nazism and fascism and educate yourself, or go to actual Buddhists in Buddhist countries and ask if they see themselves as the most advanced and peaceful people in the world, and I could just as easily find a Buddhist saying the same thing about Christianity or even Atheism from Tibet.

>dunecoon
Nice try faggot. The only thing paler than my skin is the cum your father feeds you before bed. I am simply muslim, and this is the same thing that angers them as they scream why are muh people and why is my family becoming muslim

Truly t.

>> No.21377631

>>21372280
يُرِيدُونَ أَن يُطْفِـُٔوا۟ نُورَ ٱللَّهِ بِأَفْوَٰهِهِمْ وَيَأْبَى ٱللَّهُ إِلَّآ أَن يُتِمَّ نُورَهُۥ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْكَـٰفِرُونَ
"They wish to extinguish Allah’s lightwith their mouths, but Allah will only allow His light to be perfected, even to the dismay of the disbelievers" Chapter 9 verse 32
Islam is the religion of god, and sunna is the way of his prophet peach be upon him. Embrace the light instead of trying to fight it off.

>> No.21377637

>>21377010
I could care less. Muslims are fucking inbred retards that are literally brainwashed from birth. Your overwmotional response to the fact that your religion was founded by an arrogant, sex obsessed pedophile who unironically made a religion as violent and hypersexual as the ancient Cannanite religion and promotes anti-human behavior no God is proof enough. Muhammed literally said he was under the influence of Satan in teh Satanic Verses and it shows.

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>>21377637
Forgot this picture, but there's 10 like it ITT basically debunking the entiritt of Islam.

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>> No.21377687

>>21377642
>>21377639
>>21377637
Cringe.