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write what's on your mind
mulberry edition
previous tartness: >>21366026

>> No.21372901

Will the anime girl win? Or this pink hellscape? Only /lit/ will tell. (Hint: it"s the anime girl)

>> No.21372909

>>21372868
Why are women like this?

>> No.21372918

>>21372909
I blame Rupi Kaur

>> No.21372928

>>21372868
>previous tartness
kek

>> No.21372946

>>21372909
>Why are women like this?
Consciousness is self-deficient in any instance, which leaves an unclaimed terror of thought intruding into it. We call this unclaimed terror the subconscious and believe there to be meaningful things about cocks and cunts in there. There isn't.

>> No.21372947

There’s a BLACKED porn thread in the catalog with nearly 100 replies.

>> No.21372950
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>>21372901
Thanks for the vote of confidence
Who would read that?

>>21372891
>>21372891

>> No.21372955

>>21372950
my mom is like this

>> No.21372962
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https://www.vogue.com/article/finally-dawning-on-me-single-forever

https://www.vogue.com/article/what-ive-learned-after-12-first-dates

>> No.21372985

>>21372962
This was debunked. Men and women aren't really different, they're just assigned and socially policed gender roles.

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>>21372985

>> No.21372998

>>21372962
I tried to read the second article but couldn't make it past the second paragraph. There's something about that trademarked "millennial woman" writing and thinking style that makes me want to vomit. Like an email from HR department crossed with tumblr blogpost.

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>>21372989

>> No.21373037

>>21372946
come dripping down the poetess’ asshole doesn’t seem meaningful enough to you?

>> No.21373045

>>21372985
Look pretty different to me. Come to think of it, they even have different functions and skin

>> No.21373046

>>21372868
Love from Kazakhstan <3

>> No.21373055

Falling out of love with my gf of about 5 years bros... Feels really fucking bad. Doesn't help that I'm crushing really hard on a coworker too

>> No.21373059

>>21372962
This honestly makes women sound superior to men in some respects. But in all honesty both men and women are equally flawed here if we take these findings absolutely, both specifics and generalities are equally essential.

>> No.21373077

>>21373055
5 years is admirable duration, my longest relationship lasted 3 and half years and there was precisely 0 erotic attraction towards the end, it was just mutual emotional dependence (and abuse).
Not that I have any advice for you, but you shouldn't linger in a dead relationship just for the sake of it. It can get really toxic and painful down the road.

>> No.21373091

>>21373055
how

>> No.21373094

>>21372868
>what's on my mind
A question; how to start a documentary crew with people of similar curiosities about the world. I have cameras and audio gear, some lights too. But not a single other person to help hold things or to bounce ideas off of.
Any ideas?

>> No.21373096

>>21373055
Don't dump your partner for some juvenile crush at work you idiot

>> No.21373101

>>21373055
same here. it sucks. I want to love her as much as she loves me, I know I should love her, I know exactly what I should do and I just... can't

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>>21372947
170

>> No.21373165

>>21373101
It's because love is for fags. Men don't need or want "love" as badly as women do, at least not the teenage and twenties kind of "love" that women want. Men are supposed to have lives and goals beyond playing house, women are supposed to want the fairy tale romance and to play house. What she gets out of a good 5+ year relationship with you is the youthful fantasy of romance and then the peace and stability of motherhood and homemaking. What you get out of it is the initial sex and then knowing you don't have to clean or cook or other menial shit like taking the kids to soccer.

>> No.21373195

>>21373165
Love is for white people, it has nothing to do with being weak and everything to do with having high IQ/EQ simultaneously.

>> No.21373232

>>21372868
Sigh. The race war was cut short...

>> No.21373234

>>21373195
Yes but different kinds of love. You are supposed to see the mother of your children and love her strength and solidity, not get excited to re-live early twenties hookup culture puppy love into your 40s. Impregnate her and have multiple white children, then move into the mature phase of the relationship instead of trying to be college lovers forever.

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>>21373195
What was your longest relationship? Unless you've ever made it past the 3 year mark (the average point when physical attraction disappears) you don't get to have an opinion on the matter.

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OP could use more interesting images, so many beautiful and interesting images out of the countless paintings and photos and paragraphs, but always opts for the most pedestrian coomer material like the Mormon equivalent of the dark web.

>> No.21373256

>>21373244
seething because your demented tranime thread lost

>> No.21373280

>>21373256
I hate both trannies and anime, I have no clue what you’re talking about

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>>21373161
Billie Eilish is pure sexo, archetypal breeding sows.
Primeval tribes would worship her as a fertility goddess.

>> No.21373303

>>21373244
>interesting images,
>>21372891 ?

>> No.21373310

>>21373280
Oh. I thought he was talking about the BBC shit

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>>21372909

>> No.21373322

>>21373303
I didn’t make that

>> No.21373331

>>21373312
hella incel vibes
never made a woman orgasm
i'm glad he's dead
never heard of him btw

>> No.21373337

A few hours ago lit was on fire. Now its dead. What happened? Arryou faggots going to sleep on me?

>> No.21373353

>>21373055
I swear people make me sick, lol.
Leave her and stop wasting her time.

>> No.21373355

>>21372868
I'm so tired of modern day news/politics.
Feels like a videogame, basically unreal. Like in Mount Blade when you see the scrolling list of events on the bottom of the screen "Count so and so has defected":
Scandal
President Springfield has been indicted by Congress on charges of tax fraud
Propaganda
The enemy faction are all very WEIRD and ICKY
Online demagogues discussing real important news like which streamers are shit talking
Racial resentment and unrest
Think tanks full of neatly dressed professionals discussing the importance of inclusivity and restorative justice.
Ironic meme . We big and muscly , they weak
Bots bots bots
Paranoia
YOU MUST PICK A SIDE OR YOU ARE ONE OF THE BAD EVIL ONES

It all means nothing to me. When I was younger I was idealistic. Now I believe in nothing. I cant make sense of the world i live in any more. just give me my Taco Bell and cheap wine. I ask nothing more. Give me my bread and my circuses, I leave the clown show to the clowns.
Leave it all to the soulless technocrats and oligarchs who've made population control their profession.

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>>21373337
Amerifats going to sleep
Europoors yet to wake up
These are Pajeet hours

>> No.21373377

>>21373331
>mad
>mad
>mad
>mad
hope the collective entity Women sees this and gives you a pussy token, sis (male)

touch rope

>> No.21373380

>>21373355
>It all means nothing to me. When I was younger I was idealistic. Now I believe in nothing. I cant make sense of the world i live in any more. just give me my Taco Bell and cheap wine. I ask nothing more. Give me my bread and my circuses, I leave the clown show to the clowns.
Leave it all to the soulless technocrats and oligarchs who've made population control their profession.
The machine has successfully demoralized you.

>> No.21373397

>>21373377
it's just a mockery of that infamous schopenhauer thread from reddit
>>21372578
I hate women so much it's unreal

>> No.21373404

I hope to no get a F in my tests so I can pass time with my family.

>> No.21373405

>>21372950
Many such cases!

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>> No.21373427

It feels like in another decade there won't be a single 18+ female on this planet who doesn't have a video of her getting fucked posted online somewhere.

>> No.21373439
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>>21373427
I, for one, welcome the complete whorification of womankind. Never wanted to start a family anyway.

>> No.21373483

>>21372868
>and the tartness

>> No.21373487

>>21373427
In esoteric doctrines there it is often stated that we should not go back, or around, but through, that things happen in cycles, and that the end of the last cycle sees the worst of the worst being unleashed and all hell breaking loose. I have a feeling we're going to see a total collapse of women's minds in the next 10 years, max.

Things were different even 10 years ago, women were just beginning the uncontrolled exponential spike in all their insane behaviors that we are now seeing, but there were still a lot of 30-50 year old women around who were basically raised normal enough. They had a stabilizing effect for a while, but they also allowed a lot of bad behaviors to take root and spread, because everybody was acting like it was eternally 2008. The actual consequences and effects of dating app and hookup culture were masked until they had spread to every last woman on earth with a cellphone.

Now that the whores of 2010 are voiceless invisible old ladies, the only voices remaining in feminine discourse are millennial women, who are just now hitting what I like to call the Second Wall, the "Congratulations, you're a cat lady!" wall, that comes when you realize you can't cling to any coping delusions anymore, you truly are just a wine-chugging 40+ year old with no eggs. Beneath these are the zoomer girls, who are either so insane they cut their tits off and kill themselves, or massive unrepentant whores on three different pills and still unhappy, with the worldview and emotional maturity of a preteen and less knowledge of the world than a male child, spoonfed all their points of reference for functioning in daily life by the "parents' house to college whoredom to email job" pipeline. Millennial women desperately want to be young again, zoomer women see millennial women as irrelevant old hags already, millennial women are about to go insane from loneliness and bitterness, zoomer women are already insane and will aggravate things even further.

And remember, it's not like with men, where you can expect that they will adjust and respond to the pressure by developing new strategies and cultures. Women are naive even at the best of times, even when forced to absorb a lot of male style cultural education. But millennial and zoomer women couldn't even find their own country on a map, WHILE ALSO thinking they are smart sassy rebels and the protagonists of their own romcom. They will not adjust or create something new, they would mentally crack and break if even 20% of their nonsense consumerist dreams don't come true, and their whole worldview is about to be shattered. All it would take is one economic recession for there to be hundreds of millions of professional emailers literally crying to the government that they can't afford $18 lunch and $36 dinner every single day, that their prescriptions aren't being filled, that they can't DoorDash roasted avocado ethiopian po-boy sneed tacos to their $2200/mo apartment anymore.

>> No.21373497

>>21373439
This webm always does it for me. Who is?

>> No.21373500
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>>21373487
Amazing post, saved into my .txt folder

>> No.21373501

>>21373397
>>21372578
I hate reddit so much it's unreal

>> No.21373507

>>21373487
>and that the end of the last cycle sees the worst of the worst being unleashed and all hell breaking loose.
It feels unfair that we had to go through this. Hopefully we'll be justly compensated if we make it out of this mess.

>> No.21373508

>>21373497
Hate to disappoint you brother, but I have no idea.

>> No.21373512

>>21372868
Coffee is the cause of all my problems and it's solution.
I can't resist it. It makes me insanely neurotic but also makes me think better.
Like on days i have coffee i feel unclean, have zero impulse control, and also am super horny.

>> No.21373522

>>21372947
Why do whites have to bring race into everything, just let me fantasize about my gf getting fucked in peace

>> No.21373526

>>21372962
Abstract themes such as cucking oneself to ones employer because of
>muh nation
>muh work ethic
>muh grind

Atleast women know when they're being fucked with and dont push their head in the sand

>> No.21373535

>>21373355
>Leave it all to the soulless technocrats and oligarchs who've made population control their profession.
You've successfully lost the game. I don't watch the news anymore and I don't discuss them. I didn't even vote during the last presidency because I lost interest in everything people-related.

The only trains of thoughts in my mind either involve reading, work, college, friends or religion (that I do not discuss with anyone). I don't use TikTok, I don't use Twitter, I don't use instagram. I do nothing on the internet except watching series and listening to songs. Previous joke aside, I guess the politics did win. I'm basically marginalizing myself out of societal boredom and will probably settle in some village in Canada to be completely cut from the rest of the world once I graduate.

>> No.21373536

>>21372868
I have no idea what's going on with this woman. One day she doesn't want to go out, but the next she does. It's almost entirely randojavascript:;m.

>> No.21373540

>>21373535
Based that's basically how I feel as well. Im thinking about moving to Alaska.
Love the idea of settling in some remote, alien region distant from all the concerns of the world.

>> No.21373563

In the depths of the dark,
Where the wild things wander wide,
The tall trees stand stark,
And their roots reach far and wide.

In the woods, in the wilds,
Where the creatures crawl and creep,
The magic of nature,
Comes alive, so unique.

The leaves that are rustled,
As the sunlight shines serene,
The sounds of the forest,
Are a symphony so sweet.

In this magical place,
We are one with the earth,
Connected to the past,
And the wonders of rebirth.

In the woods, in the wilds,
Where the creatures crawl and creep,
The magic of nature,
Comes alive, so unique.

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>>21372947
If it makes you feel any better, here's a gif of a black person on fire

>> No.21373600

Can’t seem to fall in love with life.

>> No.21373604 [DELETED] 

In den Tiefen des Waldes
Dove le cose selvagge vagano
Les grands arbres se dressent fièrement
Y sus raíces llegan profundamente abajo

B лecy, в лecy
Där djuren gömmer sig och söker
自然の魔法
생명을 찾아나오고, 너무 고유해집니다.

Bladene suser i vinden
Kun auringonvalo suodattuu läpi
De geluiden van het bos
Er en symfoni så sand

W tej magicznej miejscowości
Jsme jedno z Zemí
Spojený s minulosťou
A úžasné obnovy

U šumi, u šumi

>> No.21373727

>>21373600
relatable

>> No.21373764
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OP cheated

>> No.21373771

>>21373764
tartness > tranime

>> No.21373779

In days of yore, when warriors bold
Fought monsters fierce and monsters cold,
The sound of graphemes rang like a bell,
A clarion call to all who could spell.

With swords in hand and hearts ablaze,
The scribes would battle through the days,
Their quills a blur as they wrote and wrote,
Crafting tales that would forever gloat.

The monsters, too, had their own way
Of forming words, to make them say
The things they wished, to curse and rave,
But never could they match the brave.

For graphemes were the warriors' sword,
A weapon sharp and never bored,
And with each stroke, a monster fell,
Their power vanquished, their tales to tell.

So let us raise a cup to those
Who fought and won, against all foes,
The heroes of the written word,
The graphemes, forever heard.

>> No.21373799

Where is the Cult of Creativity? Where are the people who literally worship creativity as the most important thing in the world?

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>> No.21373806

>>21373804
Tweet back at him not to forget the accusation that he loves the smell of balls

>> No.21373837

>>21373806
Anon, that's just fucking libel. He said he likes the taste of dicks in his cereal.

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Even thrift stores charge out the ass for absolutely everything now and it makes me think maybe a communist revolution is necessary to stop inflation and greedy capitalists.

>> No.21373905

i have trouble taking things seriously nowadays. i don't know what caused it but it's kind of lame

>> No.21373909

>>21373656
how natural does this dialogue sound and would you read more of it

>> No.21373920

Everything I read or watch seems to deal with cheating
I hate it, it makes me want to vomit
I just want to read a romance where a guy falls in love with a girl, they quickly get together and rest is them spending time together in cute ways. No unreturned feelings or her having anyone else.

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I wanna learn French and Spanish and am thinking of trying to do this by reading a book and its (respective) translation at the same time. Any thoughts and which book I might try? I'm not doing The Little Prince because I've been traumatized by that book.

>> No.21373934

>>21373930
Anything you actually want to read, preferably nonfiction since it won't be 50% rare words per sentence and will be relatively straightforward prose

History books and wikipedia articles are very useful

>> No.21373935

>>21373920
That's just how relationships are, Anon. Women and Chads cheat constantly while 90% of men on the sex market are either exploited cucks or rejected incels.

>> No.21373951

>>21373935
>sex market
You might want to sell your body and soul on a market, but I prefer to approach it all a little differently, personally. It always makes me cringe when bugmen are obviously using postmodern economics as the framework from which they base everything. There is no such thing as a sex market unless you are interested in trading slaves.

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everything i write is getting ignored and it feels terrible. hate i can deal with, compliments are acceptable in certain contexts. but having my writing be ignored just hurts. i don't think anyone owes me any attention, but being ignored makes me think my approach isn't working at all.

>> No.21373961

>>21373563
Nice poem. Where from?

>> No.21373965

>>21373951
Replace sex with relationship market then if that's more comfortable for you, but the core principles remain the same. Women treat relationships like a marketer doing SWOT analysis with corresponding excel sheets; they squeeze the maximum out of their grotesquely overblown value while they're 14-32.

>> No.21373971

>>21373965
>Women treat relationships
Women? I don't see any women talking about it right now. I am talking to YOU about the way YOU choose to conceptualize interpersonal relationships. Regardless of the justification, it is YOUR choice to treat everything as an inhuman market of currency exchange rates and cost-benefit analyses. It's your philosophy that I'm criticizing, and I will not be drawn away from it by your deflections in the direction of women. It makes absolutely no sense to deride the attitudes of others when you yourself share it. Unfuck yourself.

>> No.21373982

If contemporary man were suddenly reduced to premodern conditions, and were he to subsequently adapt, what opinion would he have of his previous state?

>> No.21373983

>>21373960
uhh post your writing then bucko

>> No.21373989

>>21373960
I love this image,

>> No.21373990

>>21373971
I'm old enough to remember to remember teenage dating in late 00s and college dating in early 00s, a zoomer couldn't possibly comprehend how radically the dating scene changed after Tinder. As a 7/10 man I turned down several 6-8/10 women making casual advances on me because I already had a 7/10 gf, nowadays any completely average hole feels entitled top 10% man because she can get them for a casual pump and dump on her phone app. It's ridiculous, half of the young men in their pirme don't get any pussy whatsoever.
>I don't see any women talking
They're equally simple and dishonest, even if they were talking it's irrelevant. Judge their actions, not their babbling.

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>>21373983
i'd ask you not to kick me while i'm down but you're gonna do what you're gonna do and i accept that. it's a section from a larger work

>> No.21373994

>>21373990
>college dating in early 00s
*10s

>> No.21374011

>>21373990
So, to get this straight... your response to the idea that people aren't chattel to be bought and sold on a "sex market" is to delve into detail on why the "market," an idea that doesn't seem to be serving you well or making you happy, is choosing different products these days. Okay.

>> No.21374013

>>21373920
>I just want to read a romance where a guy falls in love with a girl, they quickly get together and rest is them spending time together in cute ways. No unreturned feelings or her having anyone else.
but that's not real life.

>> No.21374018

>>21373993
i'll be honest i'm not equipped to criticize this technically but the content comes off to me as purple and pretentious and ironically somewhat meaningless. the idea that god is dead and civilization is decaying has been explored through post modernity for the past eighty years. it would be more interesting imo to discuss how society is adapting to our simultaneously increased level of interconnectedness yet lack of intimacy

>> No.21374025

I am ready to be euthanized and turned into robot kibble by our new AI overlords. Humanity is obsolete. It's over.

>> No.21374028

>>21374011
I'm past the point of bothering with women for a few years now, just feeling sorry for guys 10 years junior (what I imagine the average age here is) being utterly fucked by the state of Gen Z women.

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Waiting for my clipper to be delivered so I can buzz my hair.
I have been thinning this year and don't want to be someone who copes and clings to hair for too long.
On good days it's not noticable to someone else but I'd rather not deal with doing my hair and then it looking fucked up from wind or when I go swimming.

It's over.

>> No.21374034

I'm completely numb from not going outside for months, I feel I can die right now, and my body won't ever be found. I can order food, gadgets, cleaning services, everything just within a few clicks. Amassed enough money to not work for two or even more years, WFH -- everything that a potential schizoid might dream of, except I'm not and I'm craving for a decent human contact.
I cannot understand why, if the social circle is formed eventually, it consists of mentally ill people or junkies of all kinds.

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>>21374029
Don't do it man

>> No.21374060

>>21374018
>the idea that god is dead and civilization is decaying has been explored through post modernity for the past eighty years
i don't think anyone would say that it's resolved though. is it passe to react emotionally to these things just because others already have?

>> No.21374083

Man domesticated himself with civilization. It is difficult to draw a line in time. Somewhere between the adoptions of agriculture and writing, action traded deliberation for contemplation. This relatively abrupt shift in behavior prompted a reassessment of value. Survival was more assured, or foreseeable. The focus of conduct shifted from life to existence. The idleness of luxury gave way to trivial pursuits. Asceticism developed to quell these pursuits within the confines of civilization. It has proven insufficient in the face of man's ballooning contrivance. Perhaps the Sea Peoples, Goths, or Northmen were nature's finest weapons, crafted over aeons to vanquish this archnemesis. The proverbial Shiva, lacking only the divine fortitude to resist the seduction of the plastic temptress. Are we too far gone?

>> No.21374088

>>21374044
yeah, bro just have a jason statham tier jaw and skull shape.

>> No.21374101

>>21374044
Funny thing is I thought this meme was right before it happened to me.
But I've had a buzz cut before, I'd take it over thin hair

>> No.21374123

>>21373971
>YOUR choice to treat everything as an inhuman market of currency exchange rates and cost-benefit analyses
Not him, but the argument this is inhuman is flawed. You could argue it's behaviour common to primates and therefore not solely human, but the idea that humans do not trade sex for extrasexual and asexual goods and services is just patently wrong. You may like to differentiate prostitution and marriage from each other, but that just means one of the things you've decided to trade for sex is the reassurance you are not an animal prone to all the major social tropes of not just your species but almost the entire order of mammals that species belongs in. Your price is someone lying to you that you're socially superior to primates, just like other people need someone to call them god or daddy in bed for them to put out. You're not immune to your biology as a social animal, and your post is just the same screeching that someone who gets turned down on the daddy thing, or an ape who got ripped off for trading grapes in exchange for sex, would do. The fact you think you can call other people inhuman who don't want to trade at your specific price is just the fact we're one of the apes who go to war coming through in a pretty ugly fashion.

>> No.21374150

Career regrets

>> No.21374165

>>21374123
>the idea that humans do not trade sex for extrasexual and asexual goods and services is just patently wrong
I've read your post, but I'm going to address this part here because everything that follows is built on this idea. Humans do everything of which we are capable. We murder, rape, buy and sell slaves. The idea that we "do not" trade sex is ridiculous. It willfully ignores objective facts that these things do occur. It may well be on "our nature," on the level that rape and murder are as well. The problem is that our species' success is arguably predicated entirely upon rising above our nature. Towns and cities were able to arise because enough warlike, tribalistic groups of people were able to sufficiently suppress their dislike of one another (also in our nature) such that they could all benefit. The reason you can walk around in a busy city and not get run over or immediately murdered is because we have systematically overridden our own intrinsic selfishness to a large extent. So the idea that barter and trade are endemic to human nature isn't one that intimidates me. Sure, humans trade sex, on that level. The vast majority of people are slaves to their nature, inoculated against self-reflection, and selfish. They treat others like tools and pawns for their own goals. My point has only ever been that this approach doesn't make many people happy. Viewing interpersonal interaction as a means to a desired end on a marketplace breeds attitudes towards others as inhuman things rather than human others. I'm not arguing for any inherent superiority of any view — only that it is possibly less existentially tiring and miserable to reject frameworks that may correlate with our "natures" (if on the low and arguably archaic level as tribalism, rape, murder) but do not ultimately make us happy. After all, to view others as goods on a marketplace is ultimately to view ourselves as the same.

Why bother? Let the rest of the world trade chattel. Let everyone else fawn over "Chads and Staceys" if they want to. Consensus, in this way, is nothing more than the tyranny of the social majority. A minority exists. If you can genuinely detach yourself and your system of values from the tyrannical majority, you can find people like yourself. They exist.

>> No.21374176

>>21372962
This is why you have the law and a judge and not just the law - because you need to consider both the abstract and the personal when it comes to sentencing.

>> No.21374183

>>21374150
Same anon, but the world is so unpredictable that I find it hard to get too down about my choices. I don't know what you do of course, but I get the feeling that even if I had chosen differently then I might be just as likely to end up on my ass in 5 years even if it seems impossible now. The world is changing rapidly.

>> No.21374192

>>21374165
>After all, to view others as goods on a marketplace is ultimately to view ourselves as the same.
Just to drive this home a bit, it is intrinsically ridiculous to view yourself as a good or product. You do not sit on a shelf all day until purchased. When you wake up, you are not waking up in a department store with a price tag on your chest. You are not a car or apartment or a tailored suit. You wake up as a human being. You scratch your human balls, fill your human lungs with air, manipulate with your human appendages the shower, toothbrush, computer — you are nothing more than a human being and nothing less. It's what follows that tangles you up in ultimately-unreal abstractions. You are, at your core, human. Anything else you layer upon that is a series of greater and greater lies.

>> No.21374199

>go to some gay forum to discuss a book since I can't discuss it anywhere else
>has gay ass necroposting hardcoded rules so it can't even be bumped after about two weeks of no replies
HOLY FUCK
NECROPOSTING WAS ALWAYS A MEME PERPETUATED BY NARCISSISTS WHO HAVE TO CONTROL EVERY DISCUSSION
Also obligatory fuck lit for being an absolute shithole for book discussion.

>> No.21374204

>>21374165
>problem is that our species' success is arguably predicated entirely upon rising above our nature
No. If we evolve past our species' nature then we are defunct. It's how evolution works: cows outcompeted aurochs and now we have no aurochs and lots of cows. Believing we have transcended our biology is a comforting superstitious nonsense, the same as pigeons will form superstitious behaviours around randomised food dispensers. You are not a different species to those that rape and murder and if you do not understand that basic biological fact, it is because of your common animal instinct for predictably you share with even more basic creatures than apes and not some superior genetic value to other humans. You have no transcended being an animal any more than a pigeon has worked out the randomised feeder; you have just convinced yourself doing your little superstitious dance has made the randomised feeder favour you.

>> No.21374208

>>21374204
>Believing we have transcended our biology
Our biology allows us to selectively choose which of our lower-order processes we obey.

>> No.21374209

>>21374208
The brain is not a singular unit that came into being a set amount of time ago. It is processes layered over processes layered over processes.

>> No.21374213

>>21374208
Kekekekekeke, no it hasn't. You'd like to believe it has, but that belief is common to Mormons who believe their wet dreams are signs the devil has got in them and they must repent. Though you probably believe yourself superior to that too.

>> No.21374226

>>21374213
>Kekekekekeke
My instinct here is to get annoyed with you, make fun of you for the way you use language, maybe post a frog, and move on from this conversation. Instead, I'm going to choose to suppress that instinct and demonstrate that it is possible to use my own executive agency to override that reflex, which is rooted in deeper and more basal structures of my brain. It is a self-evident fact that I can do this, as I am currently in the process of doing so. That I haven't done the above is not just evidence but proof of the fact that human beings can select which behaviors they'll express, thereby "rising above their biology" by using their "biology" to do so.

>> No.21374234

>>21374226
You do know your pervasive arrogance and focus on social superiority is a function of your instinct for sexual success talking right? You're basically doing a bird mating dance hoping some chick admires your social feathers and shiny meme collection in hopes your sexual success from adherence to mating rituals is greater than others.

>> No.21374250

>>21374234
damn dude gottem

>> No.21374257

>>21374250
Humans are animals shouldn't really be up for debate to be fair. The whole argument is extremely low hanging fruit to the point of almost being windfall.

>> No.21374267

>>21374234
>You do know your pervasive arrogance and focus on social superiority is a function of your instinct for sexual success talking right?
No, I don't "know" this and furthermore disagree with everything you've said here on multiple levels. The first is the disingenuous way you've chosen to frame it ("you know that... right?"), which implies that what you're saying is completely beyond discussion and a cosmic fact of the universe to which people are only aware or unaware. I know what you're saying, I just disagree with it. If you choose to read that disagreement and the confidence with which I do so as arrogance, well, you're free to believe whatever you want to believe. Are you in a habit of accusing people who disagree with you as being arrogant? Either way, accusing me of focusing on social superiority in some kind of misguided armchair psychology is pretty genuinely ironic. Since you're asking, I do my best to stay far away from social hierarchies, and to see everyone as equals when forced to participate. Choosing to step away from hierarchical models of dating and romance is, after all, kind of my point. It doesn't make anyone happy except the very lucky few who are at the top of it. It's never made much sense to me why people left behind by that system choose to further reinforce its preconditions by lamenting their position therein, in lieu of just kind of recognizing that it's inherently bullshit and doing something that'll make you happy.

>> No.21374270

>>21374267
it's not going to argue with you in good faith
it'll make another tu quoque snarky comment and that'll be it

>> No.21374271

>>21374267
I'm in the habit of calling people who believe they have transcended biology arrogant, yes.

>> No.21374277

>>21374267
>>21374270
samefag

>> No.21374280

>>21374271
>>21374277
samefag

>> No.21374282

>>21374277
I don't care enough about "winning" an internet argument (I try to treat these as discussions instead, for the sake of my own sanity) to samefag.
>>21374270
And yeah, it looks (>>21374271) like you were right, or at least in the immediate ballpark.

>> No.21374287

>>21374282
Are you whoever thinks they're transcending biology?

>> No.21374291

>>21374267
I'm not hating on the spirit of what you're saying (NTA btw) but
>see everyone as equals
There really no point in this. The metaphysical obsession we have with equality is a fundamental inversion of instinct

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>>21374287
The only person in this entire thread who thinks they have "transcended biology" in the way you're trying to paint it is the one you've constructed in your head. Cheers.

>> No.21374298

>>21374291
>The metaphysical obsession we have with equality is a fundamental inversion of instinct
It's an instinct of most group hunters. You don't want to starve your fellow apex predator.

>> No.21374302

>>21374295
Do you think instincts you think you're repressing are based in something other than biology?

>> No.21374322

>>21374291
>The metaphysical obsession we have with equality is a fundamental inversion of instinct
My ideas have (intentionally) no overt grounding in, or reliance upon, any metaphysical principles. As far as I'm concerned, instinct is a tool that can and should be leveraged where applicable, and disregarded when necessary. Disregarding my instinct to shitpost a frog five or six posts ago has resulted in a fun and rewarding thought exercise (from my perspective, at least) in which I get to stretch my legs a bit and propose ideas I care about a lot. This may be too broad a statement, but in this sense instinct exists almost for the purpose of deliberate inversion, or at least modulation.

Also, anecdotally, choosing to avoid the instinct to get mad and shitpost has a twofold advantage: it sucks to feel mad, and it spares the board yet another shitpost.

>> No.21374331

>>21374322
lol u mad

>> No.21374335

go to gym if you think equality is real

the barbell will rayp and molest you until you understand

>> No.21374337

>>21374335
>barbell
DYEL

>> No.21374342

>>21374298
Sure, you can call that equality. It's still a natural and sensible impulse to value individuals unequally based on their qualities, whether inborn or developed. The problem is this tendency is virtually inevitable and you can't expect it to be applied with sound discernment by many. The lens of equality alleviates this in a way, but also diffracts deeper inquiries into monstrosities like contemporary sociology.

>> No.21374350

>>21374342
>one instinct overrules another
Uh, no.

>> No.21374360

>>21374322
It is ultimately metaphysical to apply equality above the molecular level, particularly advanced organisms. It's a mathematical notion. I get that it's a tool for making a society cohesive, but the majority of the society doesn't understand that (they're not expected to).

>> No.21374361

I've had a lot of sexually themed dreams in the last few years, and they've all been horrible
>had a dream i was in a a hotel room with this girl I liked in college. We're getting intimate and I take my shirt off, only I flee the room because I don't want her to find out I have a small dick. She went after me and asked what was wrong, and I kept running
>had a dream I was sitting across from an actress I found cute on a subway, turned out she was possessed by an evil demon, and wanted to have sex with me, which would kill me. The other passengers were in on it and tried to hold me down, but I managed to escape and lose her at a carnival
>had a dream I was dating a girl for around 6 months. It was going super well, I got butterflies just thinking about her. We were at Starbucks one day and she revealed she slept with and was impregnated by my coworker who is a bigger neckbeard than I am, and that she was keeping the kid. I drove home and considered killing them and then myself, but knew deep down I didn't have the balls
>had a dream I was at a resort and one my clients from work had me drugged and brought to her room for sex. I cried and begged her to let me go. My mind erased the memory of what she did, but I knew something happened after she let me go.

>> No.21374364

>>21374360
>It is ultimately metaphysical to apply equality above the molecular level
It is definitely metaphysical to apply equality to the molecular level, wtf are you doing?

>> No.21374368

>>21374350
I'm not saying that what you've described and what I've described are mutually exclusive, they are both true. At that point it's just semantics.

>> No.21374372

>>21374368
The idea of instincts being overruled or eliminated by one another is a pretty big misconception. They're always present or they're not instinctual.

>> No.21374374

>>21374364
Are two atoms of the same isotope not essentially equal? Whatever, if you're right that strengthens my case lol

>> No.21374381

>>21374374
>two atoms of the same isotope not essentially equal
No, there would be no need to distinguish twin atoms if they were.

>> No.21374391

>>21374374
>Can't we just go back to the Bohr model?
Yeah who needs quantum mechanics lol

>> No.21374397

>>21374372
One may believe himself equal to one man but superior or inferior to another, no? For instance, returning to the hunter groups you posited, would it not likely have been customary for one in his adolescence to view his father as a superior hunter whose experience gave him the right to lead while viewing his peer as an equal (in the sense you used it) in the same learning process as himself?

>> No.21374399

>>21374397
>would it not likely have been customary for one in his adolescence to view his father as a superior hunter
Have you met teenagers of any species?

>> No.21374401

its 6 am and i guess im probably going to go to bed soon. its absolute fucking nightmare fuel to think about the fact that now im probably going to sleep after an hour of tossing and turning then shut off my alarm when it rings and fall asleep till 3pm and wake up an hour before sunset and do it all again

this cycle is fucking horrible, and it feeds into all sorts of other vices too

>> No.21374403

>>21374391
Idk I'm not a fuckin physicist I'm just using a reference point to base my argument

>> No.21374411

>>21374403
Good rule of thumb is don't use words you don't know what they mean on /lit/ or /sci/ because anons might have access to a dictionary and laugh at you.

>> No.21374415

>>21374399
Ok but when you fuck up and don't know what to do you still go to your dad (unless he's a piece of shit)

>> No.21374424

>>21374415
I think you want to rely less on your personal experience if you want a discussion of social animals from crows to humans if you don't want to reveal what kind of animal in what kind of environment you specifically are.

>> No.21374430

>>21374424
We're discussing hunter gatherer adolescents, not ourselves

>> No.21374445

>>21374430
Crows are social scavengers. I was specifically talking about group hunting's tendency to equality, not hunter gatherers which limits those that don't also gather. Thankfully crows are also gatherers, with dickhead teenagers, who give reciprocating social gifts and do things out of spite also, so we can still talk about them instead of you talking about your relationship with your father as though it were a species wide phenomenon.

>> No.21374448

I wanted to dedicate myself to writing, choose a low-wage job and live like Bukowski. But I have debt and now begin a complicated IT remote job with endless meetings and corporate culture. Fuck this gay earth.

>> No.21374451

>>21374445
Lmao ok let's talk about crows them. So crows have no hierarchy?

>> No.21374456

>>21374451
Hierarchy in a broad sense, that is, to include pecking order

>> No.21374457

>>21374451
They have many hierarchies and include other animals in their rankings. That's why some humans who feed crows also find crows giving them gifts which are usually reserved for their close social affiliates.

>> No.21374462

>>21374456
>pecking order
heh

>> No.21374464

>>21374457
This is true, I offered the leftover Thanksgiving turkey to the crowsb on the dumpster outside my barracks

>> No.21374470

>>21374464
They will fuck up anything that fucks with you now you're their bro. Good call.

>> No.21374503

>>21374457
They also hold funerals for their crow friends and sometimes for humans who they like.

>> No.21374554

i would like to start teaching myself math and messing around with it for fun. unfortunately, i am not very smart

>> No.21374563

>>21374554
igotchufam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murderous_Maths

>> No.21374652

>>21374448
Atleast you're able to get a job

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21374669

>>21372868
>was in love with a girl who was taken by another man
>got to know her man better and interact with him more
>became good friends of his despite the obvious clash of interests
>eventually he broke up with the girl
>other friends told me "this was my shot"
>eventually came to value my friendship with her ex-boyfriend more and realized she was in the wrong in that relationship and was a terrible person
>no longer infatuated with her
Lol I love being a man

>> No.21374683

>>21374669
if dubs you have sex with exboyfriend

>> No.21374690

Every time I go on /adv/ I realize how terrible people are.

>> No.21374700

>>21374690
terrible advice or terrible people?

>> No.21374703

>>21374700
Please share an anecdote.

>> No.21374705

>>21374700
Both. Terrible questions and terrible advice coming from terrible people (mostly).

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>>21372868
Last night people wanted tits. I woke up and the thread was gone, but here’s this. I apologize if it is against thread rules, tried to keep it safe for work. Decide if it’s a woman - I wish it wasn’t. I’m the person who said that I tried to give my friend money to help with an apartment and she refused. I said that my family and friends are all refusing my help and that the love of my life left for a woman who makes half my income. So what did I do it all for? College for a degree I hated while working three jobs, working 60 hour weeks after graduation, amassing a savings - it was all pointless because I’m too depressed to enjoy the money and apparently no one else wants it.
I don’t know if you’re even still here but I will now start responding to you.
Anons who said to buy property: sure, I might as well and that’s one of the things I plan to do. Doesn’t make my life meaningful.
Anon who showed me a man self immolating: Fuck you. I can’t wait for the day maggots are eating your corpse.
Anon who said I should get a new boyfriend and push babies out of my cunthole: I have a new boyfriend. But it’s been ten years since I met “the one”, many of them spent with this new man, and I am not over him. I understand that as a woman, I am so worthless I cannot produce anything of value except a man. But you missed something. Men are not valuable either. No human life is valuable. Art is dead, lit is dead. We all struggle with this and having a child is just passing on the problem. I was trying to drug myself with feel good chemicals by giving away money but I know it doesn’t matter.
So. I live a short uber ride away from a train station. I probably won’t do anything, but I might as well try. Tell me why I should go to the train station. Show me more violent videos, without getting the thread taken down of course. Let’s see if we can Anna Kerenina this bitch.

>> No.21374733

>>21374720
check out your moles, that lower one looks rather dark.

>> No.21374734

>>21374720
What do you do for work? How old are you?

>> No.21374738

>>21374720
there are two slashes in /lit/ bro

>> No.21374741

>>21374734
I’ll keep it vague but I work at a tech startup. I’m 24.

>> No.21374747

>>21374720
>be in a relationship with a girl
>no matter how much time you spend with her, she will never get over the previous boyfriend
grim, I pity the guy.

>> No.21374750

>>21374720
>asked for tits
>get waist

ok i guess. as for you committing suicide, I'd tell you not to do it. Find a man to love you and have children and love them. and if you can't do that help another woman with it.

>> No.21374754

>>21374720
There is no answer to your problem because you're right. Your life is meaningless and there is no reason to live. You have a boyfriend yet you're posting nudes for degenerates to give you attention.
Just be honest, without any motives, tell us what you actually want out of life? Not something nebulous like "to be happy" or "to die." What, when you still felt fully like living, did you imagine you wanted your life to be like?

>> No.21374766

>>21374741
You met "the one" when you were 14? I don't mean to sound condescending, but you surely know that this doesn't have to dictate the rest of your life, right?
You realized that money will not get you everything in life. You're young, you can still change the course you take. You sounded like you're 10 years older. The things you base your self-worth on are not right.

>> No.21374774

>>21374750
>help another woman with it
Maybe.

>>21374754
I wanted to produce works of great aesthetic beauty. I wanted to be an oil painter. I still work on it every night but there’s not enough time and nothing I make is good enough. I got admitted to an atelier for next year but I’m terrified to actually go and watch myself potentially fail. And then when I get out, what? I sell paintings? In this economy? So I started getting into this whole world and started thinking, maybe it’s honestly because I’m a woman. Maybe people are right and I’m not capable of anything great, inherently. Or maybe in these times, no one is capable of anything great. But sometimes I think I’m just coping out of fear. I would like that to be true.

>> No.21374781

>>21374766
Yeah, I was really young. It is stupid. But that’s the facts, it won’t go away.

>> No.21374784

>>21374774
What does the economy have to do with you being a woman? That sounds like an excuse.
You made a lot of money already. Clearly you're capable of doing something right.
Do you expect to be a master painter from the get-go? Work harder.

>> No.21374787

>>21374774
>I wanted to produce works of great aesthetic beauty. I wanted to be an oil painter. I still work on it every night but there’s not enough time and nothing I make is good enough.
Not trying to psychologize, but would it be accurate to say that you have feelings of inferiority and insufficiency? You don't feel like you are sufficient for what it is you want to attain? e.g., the love of your first boyfriend and skill as a painter?

>> No.21374791

>>21374781
Do you... have BPD?
That could explain the obsession. How long has it been?

>> No.21374794

>>21374784
Genuinely helpful, thank you.

>>21374787
Yes, that is right. But I don’t think having feelings of insufficiency means I am secretly sufficient or something. I might just suck and be aware of that. But I suppose that comes down to what was said above: work harder. It’s the only possible solution.

>> No.21374798

>>21374720
You fell for the feminism meme. Your boyfriend left you for the other girl because men don't care if their girls make money or not (in fact they prefer it if they didn't).

You now have two choice: either keep wageslaving for your rich capitalist bosses and end up a 40 year old wine aunt cat lady; or disregard the feminism meme go back to the traditional gender rules.

Whatever you do, stop posting slutty pictures on my /lit/.

>> No.21374799

>>21374791
No, it’s a good suggestion but I have OCD, diagnosed. It’s been ten years since we met and about six years since we were together - kind of, we were never official.

>> No.21374803

>>21374720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbafShGaYgM&ab_channel=FunnyPetVideos

>> No.21374805

>>21374799
That's odd. I have OCD too and I can get over someone after a year or two max. I think 6 years is not normal.

>> No.21374806

>>21374798
I deleted post.

Thank you everybody, I was freaking out and I feel somewhat better. Genuinely did not expect to find such kindness here.

>> No.21374811

>>21374805
You’re definitely right that it’s unusual. I’ve been to a lot of therapists and made progress on other things but never on this. They get frustrated after a while and give up.

>> No.21374816

>>21374794
I agree with >>21374784 here.
But to counterbalance that, you likely are dogshit. Don't worry about it though. I'm dogshit too and nearly the entire world is. Your inherent value is not determined by how good your prose is, or how much money you make, but your actions and motives. Sounds pretty cringe, but it's the truth.
Finally, I want to address your feelings of escape. Don't kill yourself or make suicidal gestures. I can name to good reasons why not: firstly, it may fail, and you will be fucked up for the rest of your life. I know, because I've experienced it. Secondly, it would be highly depressing. I don't care if you are really are dogshit psycho, I don't want you to be overtaken by life. You can manage and find meaning.

>> No.21374825

>>21374816
Thank you

>> No.21374841

>>21374811
I don't know what to say. Sometimes you need to find someone else you truly connect with to forget a past love. I recommend being friends with that person first, so you still get the feeling of a "chase" and accomplishment once it works out. If you get rejected by someone else it might overshadow the old rejection.

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is he right?

>> No.21374852

>give me attention
No, lol. You are a boring asshole with no real problems, just like that other boring asshole whining in several threads about how he didn't take it far enough after a month of dating

>> No.21374858
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21374858

pls to do the bob again ma’am

>> No.21374865

>>21374851
Yes. I thought about that a lot, although I've never seen that image or the manga it comes from.
When a person wants to commit suicide, it's typically because they care so much about their own circumstances (such as a lack of beauty or love) that they decide it isn't even worth it to live. They obsess over their own self constantly, they covet things that they don't really deserve, and they 'throw in the towel' at an obstacle that has been surpassed by many throughout history. Suicide is generally the final expression of an obsession over the self.
That's as far as I can go speaking in material terms alone, but when talking about the metaphysical or spiritual, it is much worse.

>> No.21374871

>>21374865
>when talking about the metaphysical or spiritual, it is much worse
how so?

>> No.21374881

>>21374794
I didn't see your original post but its not the end of the world really tomorrow will be better if you relax and don't stress, fucking hell in some religions they don't class women as most beautiful until there 30's. And your only 24. You haven't hit the bottom, the bottom is way worse you can be stuck in a 4chan discord with porn addicts who post porn, racists, groomers, nazis, drug addicts and enablers. You can go that direction if you want to find rock bottom but they don't allow freedom of speech. So in the end the terrible people will chase you will brooms and sticks for being good and you'll find being a terrible person is difficult because they can't handle the truth. So in the end you'll have a realisation that you are good and it will be an enlightenment realising all the good qualities you have.

Now if this hasn't reached you or if its completely incoherent or if some browser finds nazis hilarious (its difficult to find nazis) then hopefully ive done my part.

>> No.21374884

>>21374871
There is much to say and I have work to do soon.
To put it simply, it has to do with the fact that desire itself is evil, and with the moral obligations one has in life.

>> No.21374894

>>21374884
I could wait for an extended reply if you'd have time after work.

>> No.21374922

>>21374683
damn, kinda disappointed somehow

>> No.21374937

>>21372868
You know every time I read this poem I think about twisting this woman's back so I can fuck her from behind and kiss her. So I can hold her back down with my hand and so my cum can drip down her arsehole. So she can pretend to write poetry and I can turn away on my side.

I like the implicit violence. A lot. It makes me hard.

>> No.21374966

>>21373771
Straight people like anime too, you coward.

>> No.21375004

>>21374563
much appreciated, my good man

>> No.21375043

any bedroom musicians on /lit/? i'd like to listen to some demos if someone wants to post a vocaroo or two

>> No.21375055
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>>21374774
real talk tho, your story is a dime a dozen, literally every developed country on the planet has a virtually endless supply of art hoes that were supposedly enthralled by the prospective romanticism of creative occupations but are now struggling with the practical realities of creative work, and, wouldn't you guess it, have a terminal case of blues for a past lover that they just cant seem to shake. At least you were brave enough to dive the cliche’s depths a bit further than most and actually post (the bottom half ?) of your tits on a Mongolian bread baking forum, I respect that, but again, other people have already worked that angle, too. In fact, truth be known, the vast majority of /lit/ anons are in fact probably creative reprobates that much like yourself are struggling with the realities of their creative work and how it’s tearing their lives apart, or vice versa, but, alas, unlike you, have already realised that their struggle, much like your case of love sickness, is terminal and without end, and so stopped whining a long, long time ago.

>> No.21375083

>>21375055
>At least you were brave enough to dive the cliche’s depths a bit further than most and actually post (the bottom half ?) of your tits on a Mongolian bread baking forum, I respect that, but again, other people have already worked that angle, too.
To be fair, we've got more tits and art from other art hoes. At least one manic poetess has got her whole kit off for us. I agree it's a work ethic problem.

>> No.21375117

Land Recognitions are on par with Hitler salutes. Academics and their self-fellating righteousness is so fucking odd.

>> No.21375120

>be me
>miss the tit post in wwoym
and you fucking bourgie scum have the gall to pretend like you're the ones who are down on their luck

>> No.21375123

>>21375120
>tit post
that was underboob

>> No.21375131

>>21375120
it was more of a sort of sad affair of fleshy revelations than a proper tit post

>> No.21375135

>>21375120
Warosu.org.
What’s sad is she’s been banned for posting on nudes.

>> No.21375145

>>21375135
I have not, it was all technically safe for work

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>>21375135
>on nudes.
No nudes* fuck
>>21375145
Oh. Just a deletion. Okay.

> I have a new boyfriend. But it’s been ten years since I met “the one”, many of them spent with this new man, and I am not over him. I understand that as a woman, I am so worthless I cannot produce anything of value except a man. But you missed something. Men are not valuable either. No human life is valuable. Art is dead, lit is dead. We all struggle with this and having a child is just passing on the problem. I was trying to drug myself with feel good chemicals by giving away money but I know it doesn’t matter.
So. I live a short uber ride away from a train station. I probably won’t do anything, but I might as well try. Tell me why I should go to the train station. Show me more violent videos, without getting the thread taken down of course. Let’s see if we can Anna Kerenina this bitch.

Don’t kys. I remember suffering from The One syndrome myself. Couldn’t get over her for years. But it’s all internal. It’s your love gone sour and it’s thrown you out of whack. To get better might be a long journey of self affirmation. That’s the rout I took (so maybe why current guy isn’t cutting it).

>> No.21375186

>>21373961
ChatGPT

>> No.21375189

>>21375162
Thanks anon, I’m glad things got better for you

>> No.21375205

>>21375189
You can get there too.

>> No.21375206

>>21375145
like the other anon said, don't commit sudoku or anything like that, you’re lost, you’re struggling but you have the power to overcome all of it and grow as a person because of it, things WILL get better.

>> No.21375249

I'll kill myself on New Years eve - or so I hope. I'll write letters to those I want a closure with and hang myself. I trust enough alcohol to help me not to chicken out.

>> No.21375258

>>21375249
Why do you want to do that?

>> No.21375299

I've climbed a mountain on the other side of the world, met new people, i struggled hard and finished a game, i've written a website and am studying for a good job in a high paying field, my younger self would've said i'm on the right track in life.

I'd give it all up to have my old friend back, every breath of exhilaration at the end of a run i thought i couldn't make, every beautiful sunset in cornwall park, every letter of every word of every page of every the book i've read.

He once considered me a friend, that at least, and i miss him so much.

When they tell you you'll "grow out of friends", know that no matter what, they're not lying, your companions will become old friends, and you will eventually become dust, and it's all fucking horrible, but at least you'll have the memories, which will hurt more, but god, to have lived without him would've hurt more.

I miss you so much Luke, i'm sorry i cut Girts out and irreversibly drifted the course of our lives, please get back to me one of these days, i still consider you my best friend, and everytime we properly talk it makes me think it could be brought back, and it crushes me everytime, but i never want to stop believing.

I love you, here on the open sea, i love you, a thousand times i love you, until my face goes blue and i can say it no more, i love you.

>> No.21375302

I had this weird dream where I was completely naked sitting in toilet booth. I couldnt breathe or stand up from the floor. When I tried standing up, I smashed the sink and pieces of it hurt my right foot. When I went out of the booth, some girl started treating my foot and there was a guy with sawed off leg wrangling and the pool of his blood. I said a joke to her something among the lines that it sucks to be him but she only replied that we're the only ones who're seeing him.
What the fuck?

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The reptillians who have been harassing, hurting, and attacking me for years have repeatedly driven me to the point of wanting to destroy my soul, but my demand was denied each time. However, if I can't get back to my original timeline, I'll go through with it, and this time it will work.

>> No.21375334

>>21372868
I struggle to reconcile my higher human sensibilities with the fact that almost everything that makes me "me" is a result of things I didn't really choose or have a say in. My desires, needs, hopes, dreams, etc. It's like humans are hard wired to be at odds with themselves, like inner conflict is core to our entire psychology or some shit.

These past couple weeks have been rough but I think this shit is good for me. I've been more empathetic, acted healthier, and multiple people have told me I'm much nicer and better to be around. Maybe it is better to experience a worse existence if you do so knowing that your impact upon others is improved.

>> No.21375365

It has now been... a year and 4 months since you have left me. How are you? Are you good? Are you eating well? How's the studying stuff going?

About a week ago, some girls at my college organized a laser game party. I had to download WhatsApp to participate and saw you were also on the app. There was a picture of you at the beach, standing on some rocks and smiling at the camera that I know nobody took when we were together. You rock that tan.

I just wanted you to know that I can't do it. We discussed it last time we talked and we fought because I still loved you and you wanted me to move on. I can't forget the five years we spent together. I tried. I met some other girl and it was amazing but I couldn't stay with her so I left after five months. I really tried my hardest but I can't get attached to anyone else, it seems. Even if I feel like I loved her, it wasn't nearly as much as I loved you. I couldn't believe in our story no matter what I did.

So here I am. I still love you. I wonder how it feels to know your ex of five years still loves you. I won't ever admit it directly though so I post that on lit instead. I hope it's not disgusting. I wish there was an easy answer to all of this, that I could simply wake up one day as a new man and go on with my day. I've however read somewhere that it's likely that you won't ever get over your ex if you can't move on after a year. It probably won't ever happen then. Sucks to be me, I guess. Loving you is very painful, but it still feels good.

See you, even if it's more of a goodbye since I moved cities.

>> No.21375379

I had a dream that I was moderately well-off and lived in a nice three-room apartment that was spacious and well-furnished.
I awoke in my shittily insulated studio apartment, situated in the garret. I awoke to the wind howling through my poorly made windowframe that lets in a massive draft. I am currently listening to the conversations of my closest neighbour, a boring woman who studies engineering, and her shrill friends. The walls are paper thin, and their voices are annoying the shit out of me.

I'm getting real tired of being a poor fuck who does precarious teaching gigs 3-6 months at a time at the university and high schools, trying to eke out a full-time position from scraps. I would very much like to just be independently wealthy and live a bit like a nobleman in a 19th century russian novel. Worst thing is I spent what would at the peak in 2021 be about 8 million euros in bitcoins on drugs from 2013-2016. While that is a funny "haha I spent 8 million on weed and acid lmao" story, the sting is very real when the damp gets me coughing in my shitty garret.

>> No.21375381

>>21375249
Don’t do that.
Your head is just shrouded in a terrible funk.
You can get rid of it like a hat, like a case of diarrhea.

>> No.21375398

>>21375365
This is beautiful and bittersweet. Your love is still affecting the world in a positive way. I hope she reads this by some chance, anon. Thanks for posting.

>> No.21375397

>>21375381
>You can get rid of it like a hat, like a case of diarrhea.
bot that anon but how? Suicide been on my mind for the last 15 years

>> No.21375399

Women of /lit/, what is your sexiest sexual sex moment?
Also, what makes you think you can browse this board while your chromatically ordered books collect dust on your neat little shelf? :D

>> No.21375420

>>21375397
For the last 15 years you’ve had a body chemistry all out of whack and your thoughts have no doubt strayed to depressing defeatism. It’s common I’m afraid, but you can get out of it.
You are worthy of love and happiness.

>>21375399
I don’t order my books by colour

>> No.21375426

>>21375420
>body chemistry all out of whack
how did you change it?
>You are worthy of love and happiness.
no, I'm not. I'm not worthy of other people love

>> No.21375434

>>21375399
>Also, what makes you think you can browse this board while your chromatically ordered books collect dust on your neat little shelf? :D

youtubers are the only people who actually do this

>> No.21375453

>>21375420
You don't read either.

>> No.21375503

>>21372868
I was cursed with consciousness.
Every time something good happens to me, I say "it could be better"
Every time someone kiss me, I say "it could have been Nagatoro kissing me"
Every time someone hugs me, I say "it doesn't have the warmth of Yui"
Every time I have sex, "it could have been Misato"

I wish I could stop it, but I can't.
For every living thing, for every grain of sand of existece, I can imagine 10000 better forms of being, of living, of existing. The world I see is not as sweet as the world I imagine.
I am no longer human. My body, my mind, my feelings, my dreams are no longer in the realm of reality. I am a metaphysical mind in a physical body; a metaphysical zombie, neither here nor there.
Oh, please just take me out of my misery.

But who am I talking with, if not myself? What do I see, if not myself? What do I imagine and seek, if not myself? I do not wish for death, I don't want to run away again. I wish for nothing but myself, and I am attainable, for I am myself

>> No.21375519

>>21375399
My sexiest sexual sex moment was sex.

Isn’t that what you’re doing? I assumed everyone read at 700 words per minute while actively typing on 4chan.

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>>21375426
Well, I donno
I used to suffer mood swings, not full blown bipolar or anything, didn’t drink or smoke anything, and was bicycle bound. So on a good footing, I had been feeling horrible for a few years about her leaving me without much of a reason why. I think it was just financial, so a deeper hatred for the rat race started in me. One day I finally gave up my religion which had morphed into some ignorant hybrid of pseudoscience Gnosticism. But dropping it felt odd, sad and scary for less than a week. I decided this one short and insignificant life was all I had and I had to make it count for something for my own sake. I stopped dwelling on my loneliness before drifting off to sleep. I lost my job and was nearly homeless again, but oddly, found Epicureanism, I learned to keep my cool and found a dumb job to rebuild my nest egg up. First year into my new job I forced myself to give up the old childhood dream of filmmaking. Wasn’t going to happen. I freed myself of all expectations and felt free and happy. Eating right, good exercise and a generally good frame of mind is all it takes.
So that spoilered comment is wrong. Don’t say that to yourself anymore. Even if you find no one else in the world who will tell you this, you are worthy of love. Your love can sustain.

>>21375453
Read Wim Hof. Easy peasy

>> No.21375578

>>21375553
>you are worthy of love. Your love can sustain.
NO. other people cannot love me the way I want therefore I'm not worthy. that just lie from their side if they ever say it.

>> No.21375613

>>21375578
>other people
Not likely true, but as I said, you can sustain yourself on your one self worth. Stop spitting nails here and get your head on right.

>> No.21375618

>>21375613
>you can sustain yourself on your one self worth
I cant. I see myself as absolutely zero self-worth.

>> No.21375637

>>21375420
>For the last 15 years you’ve had a body chemistry all out of whack
First time I ever had a real soulcrushing existential crisis, accepting what I was and adapting myself to just being a healthy human was the only thing that saved me.

>> No.21375649

I will never publish anything. I fucking hate people too much. I would only publish something that acts like a poison and kills people who see it because that's what the public deserves.

>> No.21375653

>>21375618
How can I reach out to hug you till know you are worth the world. Stop it. Your pain is an ordinary thing people get stuck on all the time, and they shake it off too. Don’t make yourself a casualty of this mistaken frame of mind. Do what you have to do to clean it out. Take care of yourself.

https://youtu.be/cCV7hmd5qaE

>> No.21375663

Man, I really made some mistakes and ended up on the wrong path. Sometimes I feel like I can't recover, let alone meet my ambitions. I have to keep a stiff upper lip though.

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>>21375663
Sometimes you just have to forgive yourself and go with the flow for a while. Refocus somewhere else.

>> No.21375674

>>21375653
>they shake it off too
I havent been able to do so for 15 years.
Am I so defective?

>> No.21375676

>>21375671
I do tend to be really, really hard on myself. But it's less about forgiveness and more about how to reappropriate things to your advantage. When you feel like your life is working against you, that's not a good feeling.

>> No.21375681

HOW INCREASE MY BRAN SIZE? HOW MAKE IT BIGGER? HOW I BE SMART?

>> No.21375686

>>21375674
Not defective, just infected with the wrong mindset and chemistry. Change it.
Take the breathing and cold water exercises from Wim Hof too. We’re sounding like a skipping record here.
If I could, I’d hug you. Nothing else can be done on my end. You can fix this.

>> No.21375695

>>21375681
BE READIN' DEM BOOKS HOMIE

>> No.21375705

>>21375686
Is really simple as taking cold showers and meditating?

>> No.21375761

>>21375705
That starts it.
It’s your mind. I think it’s easier to shift than breaking alcohol addiction, but it can take a while. Work on it. It’s certainly worth it.

I like sharing music. Sue me
https://youtu.be/cFH5JgyZK1I

>> No.21375777

>>21375761
>alcohol addiction
I think I have it.

>> No.21375778

>>21375334
Hidden shepherd
He was always here
We gave him a name
And forgot it the same day

>> No.21375792

>>21375777
Kick that. Cut it out of your life. Good luck

>> No.21375800

>>21375519
Wow, you're so hot!

>> No.21375801

>>21375792
I'm promised myself not to drink till Christmas. I already broken that today.

>> No.21375819

Next time I’m just going to love you and love on you; I’ve already said stupid shit so this can’t be any worse. I need to love you even though I know this will never be anything serious because it hurts too much not to show it eventhough i know this will only be temporary

>> No.21375838

>>21375801
Promise to not drink till you’re 50th birthday

>> No.21375846

>>21375399
Telling me to look up at him (while I was gagging on this dick) because he wanted to see my gorgeous face
I don’t care if he was exaggerating about my appearance - we did have a lot to drink. I will forever hold this memory in my heart because it made me feel pretty for a moment and that’s all Ive ever wanted.

>> No.21375855

>>21375120
What happened?

>> No.21375858

>>21375846
Sorry that you get your worth from being used like a whore.
The first part of my comment was rhetorical and not serious, but thanks for sharing! :D

>> No.21375862

>>21375838
I cant anon. Im too weak.

>> No.21375872

>>21375858
Oh no worth was gained but I knew that going in. Either way it’s still nice to know that I’m no longer an ugly turd even though I can’t seem to shake it from my self conception.

>> No.21375877

When I look in your eyes I can feel myself falling - but I don’t know if you are too?

Can you fall in love without it being a mutual act?

>> No.21375884

>>21373930
i've been learning french for 2 years desu and its been great. I've reached a point where i can watch french media without subs and read any book i want.Look at the refold method , download a premade anki deck with the 5000 most frequent french words and sentences and start watching french youtube pronto. You'll be amazed at the kind of progress you'll make.For the first 2-3 years focus solely in french and then do the same for spanish which will be a piece of cake at that point. Do it its so rewarding

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Subject is to object what object is to subject...

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>>21375862
YOU MUST

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>>21375862
https://youtu.be/iyh0imXACK8

>> No.21375948

Every single autist incel needs an Instant Pot Duo. You can eat healthy and simulate being able to cook with literally so little effort that even a retard like me can do it. This is like a cheat code.

>> No.21375954

>>21375948
What did you cook today, Anon?

>> No.21375956

>>21375872
Look at what social media has done to women.
This is cruel. :c

>> No.21375969

>>21375801
You have to love someone or yourself enough to stick to sobriety. Get disappointed in yourself anytime you see your feet heading to that liquor store. Hate it because you love yourself more and turn right around.
So yeah, establish some self respect, self love to get sober. Fixes the chemical imbalances a lot. You’re just fighting your brain’s addiction. A powerful pathway. You can do it though.

>> No.21376001

>>21375954
Rice, vegetable, and mushroom mix because I'm still a retard and can't do anything else yet

I'm literally too stupid to do this on a stove, I fuck up rice every time, I don't know what saute means, and yet I am making what seems to me like real food. I'm never getting junk food ever again.

>> No.21376067

When I think about my career, I want to shoot myself. I went from a high flyer to the most unremarkable job imaginable.

>> No.21376082

>>21376001
Nice work. If no one taught you, that doesn't mean you're stupid.

https://littlesunnykitchen.com/instant-pot-chicken-with-mushrooms/

Try this one in a few days.

Note: After browning the chicken, it tells you to 'deglaze' the pot with water or stock. That means: pour a little water (or beef stock if you want) into the pot and de-stick the stuff that's stuck to the sides and bottom. Use a spatula or a spoon to scrape any stuck parts. It will dissolve into the water and make a kind of sauce. Do this while the pot is still hot. Once you deglaze, don't dump it out - leave it in the pot and continue to the next step.

Also, it says to serve with butter noodles, but this isn't necessary. You can microwave a whole potato (poke holes with a fork so it doesn't explode) until the potato is soft, usually 5-10 minutes.

>> No.21376101

Ihate my job so fucking much bros I'm going to lose it.

All this digital garbage has only made things take more steps, more difficult, more troubleshooting. It's so fucking gay

>> No.21376196

I don't know if I really don't like her or if it's a cope for breaking up with her.

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https://youtu.be/ucrJhwUWZBQ

>> No.21376303

>>21376101
Quit. What's stopping you?

>> No.21376319

Basedboys on the moon,
Feeling lost and alone,
A deep sense of sorrow,
From being far from home.

No longer by their wife's side,
Or her boyfriend's embrace,
They roam the lunar landscape,
In a lonely, desolate place.

The earth seems so far away,
A distant, distant dream,
They yearn for the comfort,
Of a familiar scene.

But until they can return,
They'll hold on to their hope,
That one day they'll be reunited,
With their loved ones and their soap.

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>>21372868
Decided to goof around a bit with an AI text generator; from some site. Still needs some work, but it's surprisingly not that bad. (in blue).
Decided to share this bit.

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sometimes I look around myself and acknowledge that im surrounded by things I love and that life isn't so bad even though things are rough, and even that most of my real problems and vices are self-inflicted due to my restlessness and inability to just sit back and be content, and I feel a good feeling rising up inside me, but then it just suddenly "destabilizes" and falls apart and I go back to normal. its like my mind physically wont let me hold on to that feeling for more than a brief moment and be happy

>> No.21376386

I necked myself last night.

>> No.21376399

Mario was feeling good today. He had just beaten Bowser in a fair fight and saved Princess Peach yet again. As he was walking back to his castle, he heard someone behind him. He turned around to see Bowser, looking angrier than ever.
'You're going to pay for that, Mario!' Bowser yelled as he charged at Mario.
Mario was ready this time. He dodged Bowser's attacks and then countered with a few of his own. He landed a few punches and then finally managed to grab Bowser's spleen. He ripped it out and held it up for Bowser to see.
'Mama mia,' Mario said with a grin. ' Looks like you're finished.'
Bowser was in shock as he collapsed to the ground. Mario had won yet again and there was nothing that Bowser could do about it.

>> No.21376440

>>21376386
No you didn't
You wouldn't be able to type this now if'n ya had

>> No.21376446

Do I get you a gift? I like giving and I don’t have anyone to give to or rather all the people I could give have expensive taste or want something expensive or I’m just a shit gifter but I have a cute gift for you and if you don’t want fit then I’ll keep it.

>> No.21376454

>>21376446
Sure I'll take it.

>> No.21376494

>>21373487
Depressing shit. All I want is a nice girl who wants to start a family and isn't a hambeast.

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>>21376494
>he isn't hampilled
your ancestors frown upon you

>> No.21376749

I think I'm beginning to go a bit strange

>> No.21376752

A B.S. in Economics doesn't exactly lend itself to any humanities graduate degree.

>> No.21376776

>>21376752
PolSci

>> No.21376785

>>21376749
How long you been out of the refrigerator?

>> No.21376788

Very disappointed with myself and with all this and nothing seems to get better

>> No.21376792

>>21376788
Work on that.
Something to do

>> No.21376795

>>21376736
When that figure was made people weren't stuffing their faces with chemicals and staring at screens all day. Anyone who looks like that these days is a lobotomized heart attack waiting to happen. Not exactly who you want to have kids with.

>> No.21376835

>>21376785
Soon to be 26 years

>> No.21376848

>>21376835
All thawed out. Marinated long?

>> No.21376853

>>21376736
I know it's uncouth, even if she is a statue of a long dead religion, but has anyone considered asking if she's pregnant?

>> No.21376858

>>21375846
Leave him
I could fuck you better

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Next thread

>>21376862
>>21376862
>>21376862

>> No.21376907

>>21376082
Thanks anon, I will try to make this tomorrow. I forgot to ask if you have any tips. I appreciate the advice too. This is my frustration with trying to learn cooking, even the sites you find when you search "foolproof idiot recipes for dummies" still use a bunch of special terms and assume you know how to coordinate 5 different things. When you said you can microwave a whole potato I thought wow, even I can have a potato.

>> No.21376977

>>21376792
What's done is done. No going back.

>> No.21377021

>>21376869
Too early

>> No.21378398

>>21376977
what happend bro?

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>>21373540
Finding tradesmen is a nightmare, brush up on your plumbing, roofing, sparky works.
If you aren't practical just don't bother.
Nature is powerful and there is a reason people don't live there.

>> No.21379192

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This OP cheated by going too early. Where were you then?