/lit/ - Literature

>>21357243
Obligatory Vance mention. His world building generally isn't particularly deep, but he brings them to life the way a travel writer might. With snippets about local customs, attitudes and dress, incidents in bars, cafes and lodgings and so on. The books set in the Gaean Reach are probably the best example of this.

Bakker is King

Bakker is KING.

Bakker is the incontestable and exalted Aspect-Emperor of this General, and of 21st century Fantasy.
I miss him, bros. Wish he would come back here some time again.

>>21357714
>>21357691
>>21357690
No-God never ever

I thoroughly enjoyed the Gormenghast books but it doesn't look like Peake wrote any other fantasy. Which of his other novels are worth reading?

>>21357655
The land of opportunity
A golden chance for me
My future looks so bright
I think I've seen the light

I finished my reread of Bands of Mourning. I'm not sure why that one anon found warships to be an incredible feat of technology when the Southern Scadrians already had airships and we knew they were more technologically advanced than the others, before Era 2.
It feels like too much was crammed into BoM, and while things flow well enough, the ending was almost stuffed in, like a complete new Act. I think too much was going on at the temple.
>tfw no Marasi waifu
Now I'll reread TLM. The prologue with Wayne is probably Sanderson's most humorous chapter ever written in anything. Sad we won't see Wayne and Marasi again in a notable significant role.

>goodreads best of 2022 nominees and winners
>at least 95% of the authors are women
/lit/brothers...

>>21358029
Goodreads is like facebook/instagram for nerdy girls and wine aunt/soccer moms
if you're using it as anything but an index for books, you're using it wrong

>>21357655
FUCK he is good.

>Thraxas is a failed sorcerer, retired soldier, a gambler and a drunkard who works as a private investigator in an unremarkable mid-sized city.

>>21356973
The second Dungeon Crawler Carl book is definitely the weakest, the circus quest made me reconsider following the series. Which is a shame, as after that the series goes back on track being the absolutely insane comedic kino.

>>21357690
>>21357691
>>21357714
>>21357732

TWI 8.24

What a fun chapter, I think I'm starting to get used to the pacing and rhythm of this volume (maybe I haven't gotten to the bad parts though lol).
I'm liking the repeated pattern of Knight orders (Petals, Thronebearers, Seasons) as (mostly) honorable good willing goofs.
I spoiled myself on the Tyrion/Ryoka thing and thought I was gonna hate it. Right now I'm completely on board with the ship (even though I still feel like it's not gonna end up properly happening). I don't know what it is but I could see their personalities meshing nicely (specially after whatever reverse aging thing happens with Tyrion).
Raid on the Village was cool, Gladiator Ksmvr fun (Mage-Crafter left a bad taste in my mouth though), IlvrissxLyonette spicy.
Just need a tiny bit more Erin.

Eärwa....home...

Reminder for xianxiafags to read Feng Shen Ji: A full-colored three-part Chinese thing.

Is /hfg/ dead? Haven't seen it for days

>>21358367
yes

>>21357685
I really liked the one that turned into a bizarro football drama for 1/3rd of it while the guy who had been in the space navy tried to get his ranch back from his retarded brother who sold it to some rando.

>Only 500 pages left!
Brandon Sanderson will finish it when he does of fat.

>>21358464
Still on a better pace than Rothfuss at least jej

>>21358464
ASOIAF and Sanderson's Cosmere will both never be completed.

>>21358334
Get a load of this Emwama.

>>21358480
>The cosmere well never get completed
>The output of books will remain consistent but Sanderson will keep getting sidetracked and starting new series and arcs until he dies

Is Cradle actually good or do people just say it’s good compared to the average xianxia webnovel?

>>21357655
Babelchads, how did we enjoy our comfy read? If youre not a Babelchad yet, consider reading them over Christmas for peak comfy vibes.

>>21358520
There's no such thing. If it seems like something you'd like based on what you've read about it, maybe you'll like it. If it's something you're predisposed to dislike you probably won't. If you're looking for moral support, then that's silly.

>>21358558
I'll be more specific, then. I like some xianxia just fine when it at least starts with some idea for making the story compelling and isn't just the equivalent of reading a guy grinding a MMO with some "cheat" ability/item or system, building a harem, getting in slapfights with a succesion of arrogant Young Masters and doing the same thing for as long as the author doesn't get bored. I bounced off all the Er Gen and Coccooned Cow novels I've tried. I am asking how dissimilar Cradle is to that formula. I see people raving about it pretty often but the descriptions I've seen make it look like Naruto meets Generic Xianxia Plot

I am calibrating my expectations of prose, structure and general artistry taking in mind that it's twelve books long and releases twice a year so it's probably written on as tight a schedule as most webnovels if not more so despite being released as actual books, but it'd be nice to know if there's anything interesting or evocative among all that, because I have been wrong before

>>21358707
This author im reading now says he wrote 250k words in 9 days
Western authors are lazy worthless dogs

>>21358707
>prose
not good, but not so bad as to make me drop the series
>structure
for the most part it's very predictable, with just a few curveballs scattered here and there.
>general artistry
eh. it's YA fantasy. no more, no less than what you'd expect. it's at most a good filler series for when you don't know what else to read, but still feel like reading.

>>21358721
will wight is busy playing pokemon violet, give him a break

>>21358554
ITS SHIT although at first it looks like a fantastic book, after the baths it goes to shit and then worse

I’m like 200 something into the first wheel of time book and uh wow this is slow. Does it pick up or is the whole series paced like this?

>>21358707
Cradle has good moments but in general its not great, it also gets much worse towards the end. Will Wight sort of had the right idea at first but in later books he completely forgot what xanxia is all about and just started writing shitty generic western fantasy.

>>21358932
Yeah. Apart from the interesting stuff and confrontations that the filler is building up to. That flashes past blisteringly quick.

>>21358312
Bro, don't put spoilers in your spoilers, or at least mark them accordingly. Not everyone read up as far as you.

Problem with Ryoka and Tyrion is not as much in their 'shipping' (which can be cool and interesting) as in the author's inability for other characters to react accordingly, it makes the entire plotline look unauthentic, weird and cringe. It mostly makes Ryoka extremely hateable in this volume, for various reasons, downrgiht flanderizing her. Which is a shame, because Ryoka is a good character otherwise, but Pirate seems to have been at a lost considering what to do with her.

>>21358964
He typed the chapter he was at, though. Are TWIfags really this retarded?

>>21358707
Cradle is good because it doesn't follow typical chinese xianxia formula, it's of the 'Western Xianxia' branch, which essentialy means it's Xianxia, but good. Chinese cannot write to save their lives. At best they copy good things from other authors, but only the same few everyone else does. That's why Cradle is good (aside from the first book, that one is shit). It has an actual focus on Characters who aren't just random tropes, and a compelling story. You would never see things Cradle does in a chinese xianxia.

I'm finally on Return to the Whorl. It took me 8 months to read the entire Solar Cycle and now I feel more confused than in the beginning... I wasn't ready for these feels either.

>>21358707
It depends on what you mean by interesting and evocative. Cradle isn't really all that similar to a typical xianxia or whatnot, it's pretty much writing strictly from a western standpoint but incorporating many concepts from Chinese novels and the like. Its strengths, I think, are largely in its characters, while they don't necessarily have too much depth to them, they at least all tend to be distinct and well-realised. What it actually is is basically a sort of western fantasy adventure in the skin of a xianxia/shonen anime deal. The quality of books tends to vary a bit (I'd say books 1, 4 and 9 are easily the weakest, but only 4 feels like a book where nothing actually really goes on), but again, good characterisation, coherent setting, etc. It's kinda dumb and trashy in some ways but it's very much aware that it is, and not in a 'wink to the camera' way, more in a taking what it is and owning it way.

I let woke Redditor fags stop me from reading Murderbot Diaries for years. Have been devouring all of it. Wells writes very tight plotting, with blistering pace.

Murderbot succeeds as an action thriller, as a sci fi exploration on corporate totalitarianism and as a heartfelt analysis of human nature / AI. Good shit.

EGAN is KING
Any books out there about vacuum collapse like Schild’s Ladder?

>>21358981
>That's why Cradle is good (aside from the first book
Cradle hasn't been good since Underlord.
If anon who dislikes that insepid fuck who must not be named responds to this post, I'll poke around my old gaydit account and see if I can copypaste where that faggot told me I wasn't allowed to dislike Uncrowned

>>21358980
>He typed the chapter he was at, though. Are TWIfags really this retarded?
I said 'spoiler in a spoiler.' Because he referenced a spoiler he read about what happens far later in the volume, way ahead of 8.22. That was just dumb of him.
Are you illterate, anon?

Wings of Fire 6: Moon rising


To my surprise, I enjoyed this book more than any of the original five though the Darkstalker continues to have been a fucking masterpiece.

The prophecy dragonets from arc 1 were so well developed as they discovered their families and kingdoms that I assumed the next generation would be but a shadow of that especially since these characters are explicitly children. This book did an excellent job of shifting the reader's focus away from the Dragonets of Destiny to a new cast of characters who (thank goodness) are super unique on their own and do not feel like ripoffs of the Dragonets' characters.

Gist of the things: it's a few months after the first five Wings of Fire books, and the characters from that series are teachers now at a school that attempts to mend relationsamong the dragon tribes caused by the long war. Moonwatcher our POV is a Nightwing, and she's the first Nightwing in two thousand years to actually be born with powers of mindreading.
The tone was less world ending here than the previous series. This was probably a good thing as it allowed a more gentle entry into the new arc. There is a new macro arc with Darkstalker's return being imminent but most of this book works well as a standalone mystery story about string of terrorist attacks on the school for former child soldiers.


The mind-reading ability of the main character Moon, made for a powerful crutch and especially enjoyable point of view that bounces around to everyone in the scene. This ability is a powerful tool for exposition, essentially turning the 1st person pov into a 3rd person one and allowed for a huge amount of character development, insight, and backgrounds to be provided for the other characters around her with minimal effort. In fact, I am somewhat worried about losing out on this insightful perk in future books after getting so used to it over Darkstalker and this one. I am also worried about losing Darkstalker as essentially a second main character since he continues to be amazing here as he was in his standalone novel.

rating: 4.7

>>21359014
Hopefully you learned your lesson and will now just ignore the opinions of people you don't personally know and respect.

>>21358520
There's no such thing as a good chinkshit novel. They are all complete garbage.

>>21359155
No I'm intoxicated and I apologize.

>>21358480
Cosmere stands a pretty good chance of being finished, actually. The biggest threats to the completion of the Cosmere are scope creep (adding more and more series to the cosmere, extending existing series further) and distractions (his inevitable Hollywood adaptation of one of his books, plus whatever new series he comes up with in the mean time). But even despite these, Sanderson's got a much higher output than Martin so the prognosis for the series finishing is still positive, if not not completely certain.

>>21359219
>Cosmere stands a pretty good chance of being finished, actually

>two more Mistborn trilogies
>another fifteen years of Stormlight
>plus Dragonsteel
>plus Aether stuff
>plus more Sixth of the Dusk whatever
>plus whatever else comes out of Sanderson's ass in the meantime
'Standalone' projects are why the Cosmere will never be completed.

>>21358964
Really disliked that footfag feminist bitch.
>muh jogging
Wandering Shit is crap.

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War

Unanswered question from previous thread.
In Heretics Of Dune there is this guard to the young Duncan Idaho Ghola named Patrin. Patrin "messes up" one day and Duncan leaves the area he is kept in. Patrin is said to have experienced a "Bene Gesserit Punishment" and never speaks to Duncan again. I've wondered all these years, what was the "Punishment" the Bene Gesserit gave Patrin?

>>21358464
>only

>>21357827
>she-ra reboot pfp
Over before it even began, even if they're right

>>21358932
It gets way, way, way slower. Just drop it. You were warned about this and you didn't listen.

Just finished Primal Hunter 4, comfy

A new Elric novel just released this week, anyone read it yet?, I'm thinking of getting it.

>>21359328

What a waste of time. The twist is fine, but everything that preceded it was mind numbing. This is one of Tchaikovsky's worst. It really didn't need to exist and was clearly written to capitalize on Children of Time's continued success.

>>21358520
it's fun which is why some people here hate it

>>21357746
There's Boy In Darkness if you haven't read it yet, there's also his collection of poems and children books which are kinda Lewis Carroll in style.
And then there's his illustrations for several classic books like Alice In Wonderland, Treasure Island or the Grimm Tales.

worm ouroboros has filtered me

>>21359425
Probably reeducation

>>21359851
Any books with cool chickens and/or ducks?

>>21359937
sixth of the dusk

>>21359425
It's a joke like in Persona 3 when the girls "punish" you for peeking on them while they're bathing in onsen.

>>21359240
wow never seen it laid out like this before, 2058-2072 is a crazy projection

>>21358334
I like the population distribution of cities.
implies 2 major cultural groups those north of the Hethanta Mountains and those south.

>>21359160
is this series made by the same Author(s) that made the warrior cats books? I remeber liking those and it gave the cats a unique perspective and cultural fell. how does it compare?

>>21359937

>>21357655
what would you recommend as a good "generic fantasy" book besides Tolkien. dont want something super far out of the box, just something solid that does itself well. making magic feel magical, heros feel heroic, make places feel alive and characters feel real.

just supremely confident in its own execution.

>>21360107
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
Riftwar
Belgariad
The Blue Sword
The Deed of Paksenarrion
Dragonlance
The Drizzt saga
Song of Albion
Fionavar Tapestry
Chronicles of Hawklan
A Man and his Word
The Tales of Einarinn
Cycle of fire

>21356973
GLURP GLURP
GLURP GLURP

>>21359240
i barely care about stormlight archive now, there's not a chance i'm gonna be reading this YA shit when i'm fucking 80 or whatever

>>21356973
GLURP GLURP
GLURP GLURP

>>21360186
he cute

>>21360186
thanks above and beyond anon.

>>21360186
How is Dragonlance the book series?
THe idea of an rpg actually comming out in tandam with a book seems interesting. Never really got into dragonlance, but if the writtings good it would be pretty neat to be able to jump right into the world on the rpg front.

>>21360296
It's quintessential D&D party stuff, no more no less. Asking if the writing is good you're already off on the wrong track. The question is can the writing support its task of showcasing dragonlance launch and yeah, it can, pretty much. I would say it's more technically skilled than Salvatore's D&D works (drizzt & co), but his are maybe more dork gratification because they aim lower and hit.

>>21360296
The most known and acclaimed Dragonlance character is THE quintessential ambitious power-hungry voluntarily-celibate 4chan arch magus.

>>21360324
Granted, maybe not the right words,"is the writing good", but I guess enjoyable to read, and in what way. Is it simple, but its frankness broach a sort of charming honesty? Does it tend towards a bit of dry humor, does it do characters well or uses a bit of particualrly vivid wording?

I guess im asking if anything particular stood out to you. Like for example, after reading the dying earth, I think the big take away that stayed with me was the vivid descriptions. And from Lotr it was probably how a lot of dialogue was able to express something sublime with rather simple words.

>>21359802
Too busy reading the new Donaldson book

>travis baldree with more votes than The Lost Metal
>sarah j trash best fantasy of the year

wtf is this shit, normiereads dot com now?

>>21360349
Does it feature at least 300 pages of rape and torture?

>>21359802
why does he have the chaos symbol on his chest.

>>21360385
that's where the chaos symbol is from

>>21360411
gw's retroactive copyright really is powerful.

>>21360365
I don't know any of those books. What do I make of this?

>>21360349
Is it good? Love donaldson but the Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant were really bad.
>>21360365
Sarah J Maas may note be the Best writer but she sure is one of the cutest

>>21360365
>woman
>woman
>annual phoned in stephen king novel
>woman
>woman
>woman
>woman
>smut peddler

>>21360562
One solution to that problem would be for you to write something great, anon.

>>21360347
>after reading the dying earth
Jack Vance is an amazing writer. Weiss and Hickman are able journeymen. They are totally undistinguished except by their paint-by-numbers depiction of D&D archetypes. Not to imply I regret reading it at all, but it's not in the same matrix as Vance or Tolkien, and doesn't try to be. It's like a manga of a cartoon of a TV show of a novel that imitated Vance or Tolkien. Which doesn't mean it can't be fun.

>>21360576
No, there's no solution. The Goodreads community is mostly women, hence these results. Actual good books usually don't even get 1000 ratings.

I like nonstandard names for races. Like the Chiss Ascendancy. The humans are just a 'race.' The Chiss are an Ascendancy. The Borg Collective is another good. What are some other good words that you can use in place of 'race' like that? I'm not really sure what to call them.

Read Sabriel.

>>21360723
Don't shit that book up by degrading it to another threadly reminder.

>>21360729
Fuck you bitch.
T&E was alright. I really enjoyed Tizanael.

>>21360594
I very much disagree with this take. you use a term thats effective for what you want to convey. you dont just use “collective” as a replacement for “race”, but because the borg are an actual collective consciousness. And if you do use a term that sounds cool, but is just fluff, it often comes off as pretentious.

I think you might be thinking “forms of categorization or organization”. depending on what you are refering to. as someone might be refering to a race or a kingdom, or a republic or a particular form of life.

And sometimes you might have interchangable terms. you might either call this place a shahdom or a kingdom. Im personally a fan of only using unique words if it’s particularly useful.

>>21360577
ah, ok, I think I got a picture.
Though I guess a thing is that “dnd archytypes” werent all that established when it came out right? either adnd or 2nd edition (though admittedly i don't know much about 2nd). adnd stuff is pretty bare bones and “do it yourself” in mentality when it came to setting up archetypes and interactions. at least from my impressions was that it was much more “get the loot” group of mootly vagabonds in a sandbox kinda stuff at that point while dragonlance, to my knowledge, took it more towards epic fatasy quest stuff.

>>21359747
I’m not sure if I believe you desu. I don’t see how it could possibly get slower. But I don’t think you’re fucking with me so I’m a bit concerned. I do like the characters so far. I’m not quite sure I’m ready to give up on it yet.

>>21360245
I’ll give a +1 for drizzt. It got me into fanstasy and while I dont remembered much about the plot, the world was super cool to me and I still remember a few parts from when I started reading it when I was like 14 maybe.

>>21357655
Go outside and play some sport sometime.

Is Count Zero good?

>>21361035
Better story than Neuromancer, prose is less striking and more conventional

>>21360852
>I guess a thing is that “dnd architypes” weren't all that established when it came out right?

You pretty much had your fighter, ranger, cleric, wizard, thief/rogue, barbarian archetypes locked in by that point, thematically at the very least if you really want to emphasise edition to edition differences in mechanics.

>>21361035
I enjoyed it the most out of the trilogy.

>>21360081
Yes it's by an Erin or at least it's by Tui who is/was one of five og Erins. If you liked how Warriors was, you'll almost definitely like WoF which has a lot of the same dna as Warriors. There are clan conflicts, love graphic violence drama, secrets, more violence etc. broad topic similarities on the surface right down to tribal divisions and the overbearing presence of prophecies.v

I think it's fair to say that WoF is just a straight-up better product in most every way, taking lessons from where warriors flounders with better/fewer characters, a more cleanly built setting with worldbuilding that lends itself to more cleanly generated stories and not having continuity errors turning grey cats into orange cats every other page is also a plus.

>>21358227
I took it at face value as a paltry setup to a larger questline, like the murder at the start of Extinction Curse in Pathfinder. The audio production helped it limp through, for me at least.

>>21359024
I think it finished blowing its wad at Wintersteel and had no idea what to do with itself afterwards, which is a shame. Please tell me you're referring to me and my unending hatred for Travis Baldree. I'd love to see him trying to police content, that miserable fucking faggot.

>>21360215
Suck it down, you dirty dog

>>21360365
If Baldree wins this pozzed shitlib site's award, I'll firebomb his fucking home.

Fall of Hyperion has so much redundant text. Some entire chapters should be nuked, like 28 for their irrelevance to the story.
>herp deep let me waste 10 pages describing EM mat journey that goes through places we've seen before with literally nothing happening

I love how sinister Clarke is able to make faeries seem in Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. I'm at the part where he intentionally goes crazy to summon the Gentlemen with the Thistledown Hair. His appearance in this part is eerie.

Fairies=elves. If your book has diminutive fairies like Peter Pan, then I rate your book 1 star on all platforms.

Fairies=extraterrestrials. If your book has generic woodland humans like Lord of the Rings, then I rate your book 1 star on all platforms.

>>21361535
In what world are fairies extraterrestrial?

>>21361544
Real life.

Here's some books ive read recently
Also recently finished but not pictured:
The City & The City
Iron Council
Hummingbird Salamander

Got any recommendations?

>>21361569
Faerie is terrestrial.

New Tolkien book coming 2023

>>21358334
Was there any mention about what lies beyond the mainland? Eänna for example or the lands to the south. Is what we see on that map the entire „planet“ or is it just part of it like a really big continent?

>>21361643
>dead for 100 years
>keeps writing new books

Honestly, there is no excuse for anons itt not to write their own fantasy epics.

>>21359024
Baldree? Post it.

>>21359802
>>21359802
Moorcock keeps cropping up in my must reads, where's a good place to start? The Elric saga or something else?

I have my eye out the Behold the Man, so I guess sci fi or fantasy.,

>>21361035
Best in trilogy IMO. Neuromancer and MLO kinda fail to make you care about any of the characters

The Results are out

>>21361813
bros bros... did we get too cocky?

>>21361807
>>21361813
women

>>21361807
>>21361813
pee pee poo poo

>>21361813
Sandersoibros.... how can this be happening

>>21361813
And then you look at Amzon's best sellers and see Litrpg, GRRM, Sanderson and Power Progression books. Goodreads is a bubble for women and the books they read. Men use Goodreads mostly to keep track of the books they read.
I wonder if within few years Goodreads puts up a Litrpg&Power Progression category to vote in. It's what men read and buy, not weird books written by women for women.

You guys wanna hear how women break the laws of physics?

>>21361570
have you read Vandermeer's Ambergris stuff?
also highly recommending Veniss Underground if you missed that

Any Ballard enjoyers? I finished Wind from Nowhere, a better than decent little novel considering it was his first and apparently worst. It's basically a what if scenario, what if it got windy, and was windy constantly, everywhere, then steadily continued to get windy until it was upwards of 200mph and the surface of the whole earth was getting stripped away and the sky turned black and cold from all the soil and water it carried.
I personally hate the wind so it hit me hard fr on god.

>>21361807
is sea of tranquility actually good?

>>21361643
Please god no. Now a bunch of fags are going to flock to the battle of maldon and act as though they've always held opinions on it and old English history.

>>21361813
>>21361807
Interesting that there seems to be nearly twice the amount of engagement with fantasy over sci fi.

>>21362153
Vermillion Sands is really good.

>>21362207
My man actually wrote a shitton of short stories didn't he, wow.

do people actually bother reading the side stories in a series?
when I look a series up on goodreads and I see all the 0.5, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, so on and so on I just can't be assed and I'll just pick the main entries to read

>>21361643
>all the saxon poems were written by hackien
Millennials will continue to prop up boomers because they enjoy their forced adolescence, trapped underneath the adults of the last 50 fucking years at least. Zoomer cultural revolution fucking WHEN

>>21361852
>Men use Goodreads mostly to keep track of the books they read.
this is true, at least in my case. occasionally i've also looked at what others in the sffg group have read.

there's an open source alternative to goodreads that you can maintain yourself, i don't recall the name but i looked into it a while ago in order to create a place for sffgW there

us readers, amirite

Recently picked up a couple sci-fi web novels about AI ships dealing with destruction of civilisation and consequences of it, Shipcore on RR and Last angel on spacebattles, and found myself enjoying them, especially last angel, both stories got issues - the former is anime with tone shifting all over the place the latter is a bit too heavy on female characters and in it's third instalment drags on beyond all reason, but overall I find myself looking for more.

In particular looking for some SF that's about spaceships, not necessarily AI, discovery/rediscovery of spacial landscape, with emphasis on interstellar (human, alien or both) politics and consequences they have on the motivations and decisions of protagonists. Would prefer if protagonists are a part of organisation/government establishing itself in the region of space that already has some presence of other powers/polities or encounters them later down the road once established.

Not sure if that's too specific or too broad, don't care if it's webnovel or published works. Anyone got any good recommendations?

>>21362416
>buying books

>>21358464
Sanderson has admitted to never even having read an ASOIAF book, and has said every single time it's come up that he would never consider finishing the series as his worldview is completely imcompatible with GRRM's.

>>21357827
>writing only serviceable
Every person his own liking. I love Sanderson writing style, because I normally read science book and the rule number one in science is "if you can say something without uncommon words or uncommon grammatic, then do it in the easier way". Show me any other author and I can find a way to bitch. Literally not an argument.
>magic problem
Brandon is shit in magic and is literally Tolkien tier of "fantasy".
>Cosmere is never finished
Who cares? It's a fucking fantasy world. Nothing is real tbw
>calculated business decision
WOW! WATER IS WET! Mind=BLOWN!
>sequel to Elantris and Warbreaker
REALLY? What fucking sequel? Elantris was just this useless citiy that was reborne and the story is finished. Warbreaker was just this betrayal shit show with meme magic that had a solid end with the ending of the war.
>MUH semantics
dafuq?
>reading difficulty to low
?????? Really? What is there too low? Fantasy books are about stories. If the writing delivers, it's written great. Have you ever read the highest science books? If I get a book written by a highly praised Professor in his field, and his writing looks complicated, I throw this book into the trash. Writing needs to be as logical and easy as possible and every "complication" is literally just incompetence by the author. Especially the highest scientific texts are easy to read and every "hard word" those texts use have a very specific reason (and even then those words are exclusively used to reduce information overflow, because some scientific words can mean literally books of information).

While this Sanderson "criticism" is bullshit, the real problem Sanderson has is that he is shit in writing about religion and writing about politics. Also all of his books are 95 % filler and the last 5 % the big reveal.

If you are a Sanderson fan, you are a fan because you get constantly new content and know what you get. If you want some over the top art or fantasy, you don't read Sanderson. In fact I wouldn't even call Sanderson books fantasy, because they are rather medieval fiction with minor magic than real fantasy.

lol

who let the sandefags out of the cuckshed

>>21361095
>>21361178
>>21361095
Thanks I’m gonna check it out next

>>21362727
>being poor

after more than 3 weeks I finally finished this and it's one of the worst books I've ever read
the plot, while banal and derivative, is not the problem, but the prose is so torturously braindead I could scarcely manage more than 20-30 pages in an entire day (non-consecutive reading sessions), meanwhile I breezed through Tolstoy's War and Peace in 12 days.
Now I know why R.A. Salvatore is famous - or infamous - for writing the Drizzt novels, the Dragonlance Chronicles were better than this crap

>>21362936
Rich people don't stay rich by spending money, they make other people buy shit for them.
You just proved you are poor.

>>21362285
Ha, You think zoomers could produce something culturally meaty enough to even satiate themsevles? No. They are doomed to sap off the teat of the old and dead. Incapable of developing something to a point of edification before knocking it down for the next slight take on a thing.

>>21357655
Heres a question. Anyone have a rec for an author that uses modern ways of communicating, but does it in an engaging way? By that I dont mean necessarily "modern slang" but a writing style that wouldnt seem weird when spoken out loud, but still has a compelling aspect to it. I kinda want to add something like this to my repertoire for reference to how to write "plainly" but still engagingly.

>>21361776
The Elric Saga or the Corum series are good places to start, the Jerry Cornelius books are also good if you're into weird psychedelic hippie sci-fi. Just keep in mind most of these are very pulpy works.
But if you really wanna read Moorcock at his absolute best when it comes to sci-fi/fantasy you should check out Gloriana and Dancers at the end of Time.

>>21362978
Lmao are you 12

>>21362978
>rich people don’t own things they beg people for things
What

>>21362285
They were written by Tolkien.

>12% finished
>still fighting monkeys

>>21363057
Okay Mr Adult. Please explain why it's the rich people doing most percentage of the shoplifting?
Please don't ask me to post some info spec sheet. I'm not a polly and don't keep shit like that.
>inb4 it's the poors that steal

>>21363140
hahaha whoa little buddy calm down

>>21363139
Hunter 4?

>>21363150
Yes. Fight seems to have ended just there, though.

>>21362974
Crimsom Shadow is by far the worst series salvatore ever made, it's like if John Carter and D&D had a retarded baby

I'm like less than a tenth of the way through Salvation's Fire and despite being written by a woman there have already been completely unnecessary "breasted boobily" type descriptions of characters while the first book (written by a man) had barely any actual physical descriptions, what gives?

>>21363311
if you'd actually read books outside of what retards on 4channel judge to be BASED or CRINGE, then you'd realize that women have always written with more focus on the sexual than men

>>21358707
>Cradle
Cradle is dissimilar to the Arrogant Young Master trope, for sure. I say that aside from the first book where you meet a sort of Arrogant Young Master, the quality of the story stays at the same level which is "Average But Fun As Fuck"
I think you will like it, there's nothing quite like it out there.

>>21360186
what are some books about a guy and his muscle girl companion?

>>21363410
Cradle

>>21363421
but do they have a romantic relationship?

>>21363423
The protagonist is a eunuch, his castration is the focal point of the first book before he meets the girl

>>21363435
damn..

>>21363440
I seriously hope you don't believe this

>>21363457
why wouldn't I believe it, I've never read the book

>>21363282
I've read the John Carter books by Edgar Rice Burroughs and they're great
Crimson Shadow is just fucking terrible, the only books I've read that approach the level of monosyllabic 70-IQ drivel is Roger Zelazny's Amber series, but those are bad (indeed, substantially worse) for an entirely different reason.

>>21358085
See his list (Fifty Fantasy & Science Fiction Works That Socialists Should Read) >>>21362773

>>21359219
Cosmere is just bad anime in text format. Martin writes actual fantasy.

>>21363410
Cleric quintet, his love interest is a martial artist
The Pools trilogy/ The Heroes of Phlan trilogy has an amazonian Mage, and it follows her and her party from youth until middle age
>Shal was a thin and delicate young woman who accidentally changed her body to that of a powerful statuesque warrior.After her transformation, Shal was a tall woman, well over 6feet. Her body was muscled on par with the strongest barbarians, and she weighted over 200pounds. Shal wore her auburn reddish hair at shoulder length. She had pale silky skin and emerald-green eyes.[1]
The Twilight Giants by Troy Denning has Brianna
>Because of the giant-blood running in her veins,[5] Brianna was nearly seven feet tall, with a body as rugged as most human males without sacrificing her femininity. Her face was striking, with clear skin, and she had long blonde hair [3]
Prism Pentad also by Troy Denning has Neeva, a female gladiator and her half-dwarf partner so she seems even bigger when they are together.

>>21363423
yes

Should I buy the full set of LOTM book 1?
costs roughly $40USD equivalent for 8 books

>>21363626
>book

>>21363686
Yes.

>>21363626
I wish the prose was good, otherwise it'd be the best story I've read in years

>>21358749
You will never feel as good as this little piglet.

>>21361513
Are you talking about the love story on Maui-Covenant? I found it comfy

Any other good military sci-fi or fantasy like this?

Only thing I've found that compares is book 2 and 3 of ASOIAF, but those aren't quite as propulsive (I found myself wanting to skip Bran chapters). A Storm of Swords does have a lot of good stuff though.

I also liked The Black Company, but thought it declined pretty bad after the second book and got hackneyed.

Meanwhile, Red Rising gets progressively better after a fun, but not super memorable first book. Better to have the second problem.

Looking for something else since Lightbringer isn't out for half a year. Rereading Dark Age now, the siege of Mercury is amazing. Peak of the series right there.

>>21362974
If you had to pick one Salvatore why did you pick that one?

>>21363421
Except Cradle's main romantic pairing is a huge ripped dude and a fairly tiny swordswoman who has some musculature going on, sure, but nothing muscle-girl-y.

>>21361693
Sranc. Sranc as far as the eye can see. Whole continents made of Sranc interlocking their arms to float in the ocean.

>>21362285
>Zoomer cultural revolution fucking WHEN

Never. You guys are just a Millennial addendum, and Gen A are Bezosbots programmed by Cocomelon streamed into their eyeballs 10 hours a day from the moment they can hold an ipad.

This ship is going down.

>>21364120
I was looking for generic basic fantasy stories with classical archetypes
the plot would have delivered but God DAMN Salvatore's prose is stinky, I have never struggled so painfully to read anything as that

>>21364183
Yeah, but pick one of his that people like, like Icewind Dale or the Cleric Quintet where there's something to make up for his Simple Jack tier prose skills. Now it's ruined for you and you can never like anything he's done.

>>21364213
>where there's something to make up for his Simple Jack tier prose skills
You're telling me ALL his books read like this? What the hell is there supposed to be that cancels out reading that sub-Mickey Spillane animal grunting that masquerades as the written word?

>>21364213
DemonWars was cool too

If I didn’t like mistborn should I never read samdserson again? The world was fine but I didn’t give a shit about any characters.

>>21364221
Like they're written in crayon by a short bus eighth grader. But for "generic basic fantasy stories with classical archetypes" he really hits the mark sometimes. You can't really overstate the impact Jizzt had on the genre. But like I say, he's likely ruined for you. Maybe go back and read old non-curated mid-century pulp to get a real sense of the writing in this genre. It might do a reset on your taste like a sommelier sniffing his forearm. But likely it is lost to you forever.

>>21363435
That sounds interesting. I like it when main characters are crippled in some way. For example, I've got autism.

>>21364281
The Main character of Inda is slightly autistic. Great series and very character driven.

>>21364118
Military sci-fi wise I'll suggest Galaxy's Edge. Not the house of mouse one mind you. There's a crapload of books in the series. For as much as it rides on military, eventually it starts taking a hell of a turn.

>>21357655
Is there much of a market for sci-fi that isn't high tech? I'm talking about stories that might focus on things like how a planet formed and how the evolution of species followed until eventually you have different kinds of societies that maybe aren't even at industrial levels yet.

>>21364274
I already read mid-century pulp. Salvatore makes nitwits like Bradbury and Bloch look like intellectuals, borderline The Eye of Argon tier. At least most high-testosterone, low-braincell-count writers can make their literature thrilling and entertaining. If Robert E. Howard had lived long enough to read The Crimson Shadow, he would have put that bullet into his head before he reached page 2.

>>21362805
>REALLY? What fucking sequel? Elantris was just this useless citiy that was reborne and the story is finished. Warbreaker was just this betrayal shit show with meme magic that had a solid end with the ending of the war.

well, nightblood, the sequel to warbreaker is slated to come out since forever, from brando:

"Elantris/Warbreaker sequels aren’t planned until after Stormlight Five, as I’ve been saying for years now."

nightblood is a dangerous tool in the cosmere, and the nalthians seem relatively cosmere aware, their progress would be a good filler between sa 5 and 6

elantris.. that story is finished, but they might focus on monastery secrets and the domination bit of the cognitive realm, bear in mind that these are intriguing as they are unique in the universe due to having their ando-founders stripped of their powers, this can point to direction of future conflicts

>>21364317
Probably. A decent number of Vance's work focuses on feudal societies, although they're usually regressive rather than evolving

>>21364317
grrm's 1000 worlds / manrealm stories fit right into this slot

>>21364159
>This ship is going down.
god I hope so

*is better than Meme of the Rings*

>>21364456
Rule 2.

>>21364386
>>21364392
Thanks

>>21364356
>I already read mid-century pulp.
>Bradbury and Bloch
No, you don't. You read cherry-picked survivor bias stuff. Pick one of these and read the real thing. https://archive.org/details/amazingstoriesmagazine

>>21360555
To be completely honest with you if you didn't like the Last Chronicles you may not like his new trilogy either. He's pretty much locked into the internal monologue/emotions of the characters and all the "what if" scenarios of things that could possibly be going on. I don't mind it because I find it so refreshingly different and there's always a payout at some point but it's not everyone's cup of tea. But the first book (7th Decimate) is pretty short so you might want to try it out regardless.

>>21364562
I didn't read the Last Chronicles because Asimov made me leery of late-life revisits. Is it worth a shot? I liked the first and second Chronicles, and I liked the Gap. But I really, really, really don't want to engage with something that retroactively shits all over that, the way some authors do.

>>21364604
It's polarizing (I think that applies to most of Donaldson's writing in general) It's not going to be what you expect. I don't want to delve into it further cause literally anything I say could be a spoiler. One part made my heart stop. Another section later on made me tear up it was so breathtaking. I love the series and characters so much I couldn't imagine the Last Chronicles being anything less than the true and worthy successor of 1st and 2nd Chronicles. Donaldson himself said he put off writing the books for so long because he was afraid he couldn't pull it off (and to focus on other genres). So really it's up to you. I might suggest reading his newest trilogy (Great God's War) simply because it's less of an investment and the first book will give you a good idea of whether or not you want to continue.
Also the Gap Cycle is kick-ass holy shit I should reread those.

>>21357691
“He understands he is the base of an invisible pillar, a roiling column of heat, fluted and fanning into the shrouded sky, and he wonders whether a falcon might ride the updraft, the heat of his burning.”

>>21364456
Ok but how does it compare to adult books?

>>21364735
Maybe try reading them and finding out if you care.

>>21364737
Well what the fuck are you good for then? If I wanted recommendations like that is stay on bn.com.

>>21364735
Pretty fucking terrible bro.

>>21364254
mistborn book 2 is legit the worst fantasy book i've read. stormlight archive is ok but has plenty of irritating stuff, it has better world building than mistborn, and its characters are all over the spectrum. some povs are awful slogs, some are pretty cool. i can't speak for any of his other books

Just finished The Scar

I liked it a lot, I think the world-building was it's strongest point, more so than the actual plot. Bellis is a very unlikable, but fairly interesting character. My biggest complaint is probably that I found the ending a bit anti-climatic.

Overall like a 3.5-4/5 for me

>>21365011
DAMN he is not good?

>>21365025
huh?

There's Swords and Sorcery, but what's a book that's just 'Sorcery'? No combat, only wizards.

>>21365011
>>21361570
chinabros, is The City & the City worth reading in translation? I found a sweet deal for a non-English edition but I've never read him so I don't know if he relies too much on linguistic games and all that.

>>21364110
Talking about the second book where Consul is flying in Hyperion.

>>21363478
Whoever designed the cover art, did great job. Except that on the second book the man on the circumfix should be upside down.

The Prince of Something

Total kino. The first third is quite slow and vague, so I thought its gonna be a novel-as-allegory a la Voyage to Arcturus, but then it starts flinging tweest upon tweest and expanding the world rapidly whiie juggling three timelines that kept captivating till the end. The book left me with a nice cozy feeling of finishing something worthwhile that I'll come back to again, last time I felt similar was with Hyperion.

Almost finished Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. Then I shall read Boy in Darkness. Thank you for reading my blog.

>>21366012
I keep trying to get my mom to read this or at least watch the tv show.

>>21366089
I wondered if the TV show was any good.

>>21366130
It's decent

when does the black company fall off? I'm in the middle of book 3 and its kind of just okay now, I liked the first 2 books, book 2 reminded me a lot of Fargo s1 though which is why I liked it

I love robin hobb bros

>>21358334
Am I trippin or is this just Scandinavia and the Baltics with the Ural mountains moved a little to the west?

>>21366726
Earwa is clearly mediterranean basin turned 90 degrees

>>21359866
Is Boy in Darkness actually a horror novel?

>>21359896
many such cases

>>21366647
which book/saga u rec? never read anything from her

>>21366893
Just start with the Farseer trilogy, that should be a great introduction.

>>21366647
She's arguably the best living fantasy writer.

>>21367149
>she
Lol

>21367209
>>>/pol/

>>21367232
Women can’t write books. That’s not politics that’s just truth.

>>21366906
>. Societal prejudice against the ability causes Fitz to experience persecution and shame, and he leads a closeted life as a Wit user, which scholars see as an allegory for queerness. Hobb also explores queer themes through the Fool, the gender-fluid court jester, and his dynamic with Fitz.

>>21357655
Anyone else skip the One-eye vs Goblon illusion duels in black company? Literally no point in them except that one time it made rebels find them

>>21367149
Threadly reminder that Glen Cook isn't dead yet.

>>21357655
For a genre meant to show the future, science fiction is quite dead. Are there good, recent hard science fiction books? I would like to revisit the genre.

>>21366647
>>21367149
I remember loving her books as 17 years-old-something boy, often thinking to myself it's the best fantasy series I've read. Looking back, the way the relationship with the girl was handled was extremely cringe, especially Bastard and the girl meeting again and the blame being put on HIM, and the author seemed to agree with that. That was insane. I still haven't touched the third trillogy, even heard it makes the previous two retroactively bad.
Also, I read the livingships trillogy and was, like, unimpressed. It was decent, but nothing spectacular. Maybe it was the shock factor that made people rate it high, but then women love reading about rape.

Bros, should I read the third trillogy? Is it really that bad?
Also, are the other trilogies in the series' universe good?

>>21367526
The author didn't agree with that, it simply made sense for the two characters. That's what she is so good at: her characters (protags and villains) act in a logical manner (for them), she also puts them through hell.

>>21367503
the most recent Hard science fiction book I can think of is "The Martian"

>>21367503
Xeelee: Redemption was in 2018, the last novel in a ~30 year hard sci-fi series, and Dragons of Marrow was in 2018; both authors continuing to regularly release novels and short stories. Egan put out novels in 2017 and 2021, among other short stories. Reynolds added another Revelation Space novel this year, among other works. And those are just popular authors.
But yeah, /sffg/ doesn't read anything outside of a carefully selected handful of the absolute biggest names.

Is the Elric saga any good?

>>21367503
>For a genre meant to show the future, science fiction is quite dead. Are there good, recent hard science fiction books? I would like to revisit the genre.
There's been very little to no good scifi written in the past decade. Dead genre written by history and english majors.

>>21361693
Humans first game from the east iirc. All of earwa used to be Nonman territory. Then humanity came in, indo aryan style, and settled in the three seas. Pretty sure human cultures are mentioned from outside of the map, but nobody really knows too much and its only in passing.

>>21367880
if you like gay sex, emo elves, and angsty misanthropic misery porn, then yes

>>21367880
He's the og emo white haired protagonist
>>21367503
Scifi died 20 years ago, anon. The only thing we have left are subpar Space operas. Only Old scifi books are worth reading.

>>21367880
i just read the first book last night. It's fine and even if you don't like it it's very short.

>>21367880
Extremely.

>>21364118
Red Rising is my favorite ongoing series, I would recomend dipping into Warhammer 40K and its books. Red Rising is heavily influenced by settings like Dune and 40k. The Adeptus Custodes in 40k are basically the Golds in RR. Start with Eisenhorn or Gaunt's Ghosts, then work your way up to the good books in the Horus Heresy series and whatnot.

>>21367763
>two n-th sequels to 20+ old series by 60+ years old senior citizens
I'm not sure you're proving what you think you're proving here

What a stinker. The whole book is filled with forced references to scientific concepts. Is it supposed to impress the reader that Peter Watts has the ability to skim wikipedia? And why do all these genius characters constantly have these emotional outbursts? Neither of these things are how smart people behave, it's how unimpressive nerds act. And the plot is fucking retarded too. The big reveal is that sentience is just a mistake and you can have intelligence without it. Total nonsense which ends up being irrelevant because they defeat the aliens through kamikaze.

I thought there might be some payoff worth the cringe, but no, this book is distilled midwittery. If you love XKCD and LessWrong you will like this book.

>>21368116
Watts filters another brainlet. Many such cases.

>>21368116
>they defeat the aliens

>>21368186
There's no substance. If you were impressed by the medley of pop-science ideas delivered through cringe dialogue then you should give Godel Escher Bach a go. It's more of that for 700 pages. Or Harry Potter and the Methods Of Rationality.

>>21368254
Bro are you denying game theory? They explicitly invoked game theory at the end. Game theory says humans have won. The smartest theory for smart people. Game Theory. I fucking hate nerds.

>>21368277
I would tell you to read the sequel but you've clearly been filtered hard already.

>>21368289
No substance responses arguing for a no substance book. It's like pottery.

>>21360081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3rTNZ7pjs&ab_channel=B%C3%B3ng%C4%90%C3%A1Fan
Give it a pirated listen and then decide from there if you'd be of a mind to give the series a donation purchase or two and/or make it a christmas/birthday gift. If nothing else and you are left ambivalent by it I would nudge you to just do the Darkstalker novel as a standalone read since that one alone is just a *really* standout bit of fantasy writing regardless of whether or not the Warriors connection is why you were reading it in the first place.

>>21368116
Most Mensa-ites aren't SciFi channel protagonists Anon.

>>21368311
Your review lacks substance. You don't provide any compelling reason for how the book fails to integrate scientific concepts into the plot. You expect the crew of the Theseus to be unemotional, ignoring the fact that they are total strangers in an extremely high stakes situation they are as good as completely unprepared for. Because they are smart. Whether or not you find the concept of intelligence without sentience credible, it is a unique premise that isn't totally without foundation. Suggesting that it is irrelevant because they (apparently) manage to defeat the ayys is like saying that the concept of artificial consciousness is irrelevant because HAL is reduced to his autonomous functions in 2001. The purpose of these books is to explore how these "total nonsense" concepts could play out.

>>21358334
The big glossary at the end of book three describes Kutnarmu as unexplored. Early in book four there is a small mention of herbal medicine from Cingulat though.
>t. two thirds done with book four

>>21368802
>>21361693

>>21361233

I have more nostalgia for Warriors, and have many memories of long forest romps pretending to be kitty cats. I love cats ofc but Wings is the much better series just on account of bypassing most of the janky elements in warriors like clan leaders having nine lives as a haha cutesy homage to that bit of folklore turning into a big lore pit to chew through with leaders being perpetually in a convenient 'og I'm on my last life btw." or the undercutting the series moral of choosing your own path since everything being decided by Starclan whether you like it or not and just being overall more varied things you can do ith scenes using dragons since they can also fly, read and use tools like a human character while cats..can't

>DING!

>>21367149
Bro wtf are you smoking bro?

>>21367149
I love that cute old lady but the best living fantasy writer is Guy Gavriel Kay.

>>21357714
Has Bakker posted here before?

I'm reading Zelazny's Lord of Light and loving it, but I feel like I'm probably missing out on some stuff because I know next to nothing about Hinduism or Buddhism.

Looking for recommendations for books like Blood Song or The Way of Shadows.

>>21369106
Look into Jack Kirby’s art for the movie and how it was used later when you’re done reading for some fun surprises

why did fantasy authors quit giving chapter's titles and just slapping a soulless number on?

>>21369164
Why are you asking this question here when you can just google the answer?

>>21369167
That would force him to find an answer for a question he doesn’t care about.

>>21369167
Why are you posting the exact same question again, after asking this same shit 99999x

Are you dumb? do you think you will change the way this general goes with your act? are you fucking mental?

>>21369167
Some people like to waste hours of their lives not getting an answer, then just spend a minute in google.

>>21369190
Why are you seething?

>>21369206
Why dont you just google and find the answer? :)

>>21369164
I've seen both lately. Just numbers seems to be more common, but titled chapter definitely aren't gone.

>>21369215
Because sadly, google doesn’t allow people to search up the type of faggotry you are displaying.

>>21369223
>google doesn’t allow people to search up the type of faggotry you are displaying.
All right, made me chuckle for a bit. You’re all right.

>>21369167
If that one Anon who remembered everything about a book but the name, is anything to go by, I think using google never crosses their mind.

>>21369114
Check the charts in the OP.

>>21369070
>best living fantasy writer is Guy Gavriel Kay.
Yeah, but no one here read him, let alone talk about him.

>>21369305
Yeah, this place is terrible to talk about more obscure authors.

Eyes of the Overworld kind of sucks so far.

>>21369328
Never heard of that book.

Redpill me on Joe Abercrombie. What can I expect from the First Law trilogy? Also, is he better than Martin in your opinion?

>>21369345
It’s one of Jack Vance lesser known work.

>>21369167
>>21369171
>>21369223
>>21369229
samefag
yikes

>>21369348
>What can I expect from the First Law trilogy?
If you read it, you will know, so how about reading it?

>>21369350
Whatever helps you cope with your stupidity. This will be my last post for you, seems pointless to talk any sense to you.

>>21369348
>What can I expect from the First Law trilogy?
It's shit

>>21369351
Do I really need to read 1000+ pages just to get a little overview of a series? All I'm asking is /sffg/'s learned opinion.

>>21369354
>inspect element
>VPN
Kek

>>21369354
we all know u opened paint faster than ever, no need to cry zoomzoom

>>21369356
What fantasy series would you recommend? Realm of the Elderlings? I'm looking for a good fantasy series.

>>21369361
Check the archive then. Or any site that let people do book reviews since you hold anonymous strangers opinions’ high for some reason.

>>21369368
>What fantasy series would you recommend?
Whichever one you like.

>>21369348
Reading ASOIAF felt like I am reading a holy revelation, it had so many eastern bunnies and hidden well connected secrets that I am surprised how a man could have written this. TFL on the otherhand was clearly written by a man.

>>21369369
you better shut the fuck up before i call pablo and jose you fucking monkey

>>21369361
You should read it and become an hero.

>>21369369
Ok. Had no idea you guys were on your period.

>>21369361
>All I'm asking is /sffg/'s learned opinion.
You're asking too much.

>>21369368
Unironically Stormlight

>>21369361
Why else are you on /lit/?

Gene Wolfe is a dumb reader's idea of a complex author.

>>21369361
>Do I really need to read 1000+ pages
>/lit/ - Literature
This place really is dead.

>>21369384
Yea, you made a thread about it, don’t bring that shit here.

>>21369386
sorry bro, im not a neet like u, i wont waste my time reading 1500 pages just to find the book is a hot pile of trash

>>21369387
I will post it every week here. Get used to it, faggot.

>>21369388
>i wont waste my time
He says, wasting time on 4chan.

>>21369383
To get /lit/'s opinion on what's worth reading. Some people (in the human /lit/ board, not here), have a similar taste than me. So I figured asking wouldn't hurt. Turns out you faggots at /sffg/ act like women in their period, just like the virgins at /a/. Can't ask a little question without getting this pedant neckbeard attitude.

>>21369393
>weekend

Normally people don't work on Sunday, baka neet

>>21369384
Name one (1) author that is a smart reader's idea of a complex author

>>21369415
Terry goodkind

>>21369348
Stupid genius vs smart retard. I'll take Abercrombie on balance, but I don't hold either in high esteem.

WHEN DOES THE KRAKEN WAKES GET GOOOOOOD!?!?

>>21361807
>Feminist Island of Doctor Moreau
C R I N G E

>>21363478
Wat dis?

>>21369595
Books.

>>21369600
'Bout wat?

>>21369305
>>21369318
Rather than complaining recommend his best (starter) books and state why he's so good.

>>21369617
Cuckoldry.

>>21369621
Ew

>>21369618
Why would anyone do that? It's a pointless venture.

When will WoT stop inventing new MacGuffins every fucking book?

>>21369711
Google it.

>>21357655
new thread
>>21369903

>>21369907
wait until page 10

>>21369907
Fags really do just wait to just shitpost in the new thread instead of just talking about books.

>>21369711
Never.

>>21369913
i not the bakker fag . didn't know about waiting till page 10 . sorry

>>21363626
You mean buying the chapters in webnovel.com? Why would you do that

>>21369967
damn I thought he was talking about hardcover releases or something lmao

>>21369969
There are physical books but only in chinese, taiwanese and thai