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Then why do you drool over the same shit when Joyce does it you pseud

Shem the penman and Sindbad the sailor and Tindbad the tailor and Islamabad the Islam mailer and Baden-Baden and Bifur and transition

>>21353304
Tolkien uses modern month names because the text is “translated” from the Red Book of Westmarch. It’s also why characters have names like “Sam” and “Peregrin,” and why Rohirric is rendered as Old English. The in-universe explanation is that Tolkien is translating these words from other languages.

just started reading all 4 while traveling by sailboat. Shit rules. Smoke a joint and get in the mood.

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>>21353304
Cope harder, Bakkerfaggot.

>>21353658
give an example of books that you DO like then. Just so we can make fun of you for liking something written so poorly

>>21354081
>give an example of books that you DO like then
The Darkness that comes before

>>21354189
>The Darkness that comes before
lol, so this guy here >>21353728
totally called you out.

>>21354277
>>21354189 is not me
>give an example of books that you DO like then. Just so we can make fun of you for liking something written so poorly
Gormenghast is far better than anything Tolkien wrote

>>21353304
Anon got filtered.

>>21354296
then go read gormenghast. Are you 8 years old that you can't handle people liking things you don't like?

>>21354311
>give an example of books that you DO like then. Just so we can make fun of you for liking something written so poorly
You haven't made fun of me for preferring gormenghast because it's objectively better than tolkien
stay BTFO

>tfw the spammers of /lit/ are angry about tolkien, whilst the spammers from /pol/ are about peterson
is there some sort of switch that they flip to make people lose their minds over the most insignificant crap that has no effect whatsoever on them personally?

>>21354326
i haven't read gormenghast and i'm not a petulant child that can't handle people liking things that i don't.
i'm happy for you that you enjoy a book i've never read. You can run along now, child

>>21353304
Then why do you drool over the same shit when Joyce does it you pseud

>>21353304
>Every two pages there's a horrendous song.
His songs and poetry are wonderful. I did not immediately begin to appreciate (although I never missed them) Tolkien as a poet. But now I do.
>alks about the month July. Why the fuck would months be named after Latin/Greek gods and people? Why would the days in English be named after Norse deities when those don't exist? The fucker created the Elvish words for shit and cum most likely and left "August" as it.
Moron, for you at the end of the book of the appendix, which outlines the Mid-Zemsky months and days, which are "translated" into the familiar to us.
There is not July but "Cermië", but it does not quite coincide with our month. It's not Thursday, but let's say "Aldúya" is the day in honor of the Two Trees of Valinor.
>Bacon. Fucking bacon in Not!Medieval-Bongland-But-It's-Actually-Tens-of-Thousands-Of-Years-Back
This is not Paleolithic. This is a mythical age, but some lands are relatively developed. There was definitely enough level for bacon. The Numenoreans (this was left in the drafts when Sauron took over) had ships made of metal that went against the wind and darts that flew ten thousand paces. It’s just that some peoples have an early Iron Age, and Gondor or hobbits have practically a Renaissance (minus gunpowder).

>>21353304
It's a kid's book, kid's find wordplay and repetition fun
You pick up a book because it was on tee-vee, don't know what you're reading, and blame the book. You're the one wasting your time

>>21353336
fpbp

>>21353658
Okay that has nothing to do with anything I said.

He was imitating ancient texts like Herodotus and the Bible. If you've never bothered to read things like that, you won't understand. Tolkein had a degree in philology, which is why he had the ability to invent languages for his mythical races. You should at least try to understand the book you're reading (if you're trolling, 6/10 made me reply)

>>21353304
You’re a retarded shitskin don’t bother.

>>21353304
>filtered by a childrens' book

>>21354799
Tolkien was infinitely based for instinctively understanding that myth was based on the wars and glory of pre-ice age or early ice age era high civilization, the remains of which were ground away under the ice. There WAS a Gondor in southern europe and an Arnor in northern Europe, there WAS a numenor in the atlantic islands, there WAS Aman and valar which were the now extinct american giants and there WAS a khand, variags (ANE siberians) and a harad (afroasiatics from the green sahara).

there were druedain (neanderthal) and there were hobbits and there were dwarfs and elves and orcs. Only simpletons deny that any of this happened. Oh, and it did, gandalf, it did... who knew a continent so small, could endure so much history...

educated men know the genetically remembered truth that tolkien relived in his imagination set the stage for the rest of history. sauron literally existed. there were literally trolls and goblins. the red book of westmarch is the most important book in human prehistory.

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Anonymous 12/07/22(Wed)05:38:42 No.21353304>>21353355 >>21353728 >>21354309 >>21354576 >>21354799 >>21354845 >>21355642 >>21356167
>then Bifur and Bofur and Balin and Dolin and Dalin and Galin and Thorin and Oakin and Bilbo, son of Dildo, son Galdo, son of Tholdo, brother of Ordo, went down the Many Directions Path, which was called that because it had many paths which themselves led to all sorts of whimsical directions, and was full of twigs left over from the Great Goblin and Dwarf War, which was called that because it was a Great War fought between Goblin and Dwarves, in the Age Of The Oak, and which would lead them to Mordoth which bordered Morlol which was set up by Mordred...on
>and it was the 10 O'Clock in the morning of August 22
>and so they sand another song about food
This is pure maximum kinosoul and I'm tiring of pretending it's not. No other fantasist has ever come close.

>>21354334
>is there some sort of switch that they flip to make people lose their minds over the most insignificant crap that has no effect whatsoever on them personally?
IT's called having no life whatsoever

>>21353304
Brown hands typed this post. You wouldn’t get it.

>>21356167
I liked the hobbit more than lotr desu.

>>21353355
That's supremely based

>>21354309
It's not "filtered" when you're right.

>>21359384
It's quite cringe. He was too lazy to properly polish "his" universe.

>>21360500
You're really overplaying your hand here. Your trolling is too obviously calculated.

>>21360532
>creates imperfect world
>people point at imperfections
>Oh, that? That's b-because it's a t-translation hehe

>>21360545
Complain about Tolkien's use of names from Norse mythology or something. It's too obvious you're being dumb on purpose when you talk about the in-universe calendar.

>>21360569
That's one of the many faults in Tolkien's pastiche world. If it's a translation that means there's no canon version. What parts are true? What parts were adapted for the modern day? Resorting to a quasi-unreliable narrator when your story is a mess seems rather cheap. What is the purpose of adding mentions of trains, clocks on the mantelpiece, buttoned jackets, months like April, and such and such to a supposedly pre-Historic world? It's almost on the same level as Percy Jackson, that is, equally as vulgar, anachronistic, and chronically modern.

>>21360597
That's much better. You're not overreaching too much, and the more specific references to the text will help convince people you're in earnest. I think if you took this approach in a new thread you'd be more effective in LotR fans.

>>21353658
kek

>>21353363
Bro unironically pick me up. I'll go to the coast and help you out

>>21353304
>Why did this shit even get popular?
Because in the 60s, weed became popular, and being high makes you like these kinds of descriptions.

>>21353336
It's equally unreadable.

>>21353658
debunked