/lit/ - Literature

>>21348716
HE IS THE FIRST
HE IS THE KING
HE IS B A K K E R

Second for Simmons

Bakker is da Kang

>>21348716
I kinda liked the Second Apocalypse the first time I read it, and I just felt like re-reading it lately. I have discovered that Kellhus and Cnaiur parts are damn cool, while Akka and Esmenet parts are really, really annoying and pretty much pointless. And I'm not looking forward to re-reading Aspect Emperor and Consult whatsoever.

Bakker is based, but he's nowhere near as cool as I previously thought.

Sanderson is fucking trash tho.

I gotta say, early neal stephenson is still tasty, but as soon as his characters started having love interests his books really took a nosedive. Then he writes a few books about environmental activists and he gets a stick up his butt about right wingers. Now I've gone back to give one of his newer books another shot and he's got a european queen and her daughter all hot for dark meat, and also mad about right wingers of course, and I just gotta say I'm glad I never paid for any of his books.

I'd put a hundred bucks says he was single when he was writing his good stuff and then got a blue haired girlfriend who started sucking the life out of him.

>What did you finish recently?
>What are you reading currently?
>What will you read?

Books where the good guys wins?

>>21348774
i like the balance akka and esmenet bring to the narrative. kellhus is an enormous force that sweeps over everything, while cnaiur is aware of what kellhus is but still carried along, and then esmenet and akka are kind of pathetic and completely swept up in both the events going on and their own interpersonal manipulations. their part in the story builds up so much that it makes the final scene of book 3 so good

>>21348807
I'm currently reading In Green's Jungles.
Next book on my reading order is the Return to Whorl, and then either Viriconium 2, the Left Hand of Darkness, the Doomed City, Logan's Run and Prince of Thorns if I see one or two anons shilling it here.

>>21348815
I found the second book the best, the religious zeal of the Inrithi really connected with me and I could feel the same exultation during the battles.

Anyone remembers the name of that dystopian novel about a robot working on an oil rig or some shit, I think it the author is asian

Any recommendations for books with explicit Christian settings or themes? I'm reading Between Two Fires and A Canticle for Lebowitz, and they're both kino.

>>21348854
Solar Cycle, particularly Short Sun, although it's fairly light

>>21348750
>>21348764

>>21348854
I can second the Canticle, really kino. Guess I'll have to try Between Two Fires. Andrzej Sapkowski's Hussite trilogy has Christian theme also (Hussite wars).

post some fiction where elves are given the treatment they deserve

>>21348888
The Witcher series.

>>21348861
Too bad you have to read the first two series before it in order to truly get it.

>>21348789
His first book, Zodiac, was all about eco-terrorists. I think what it comes down to is that he had a sense of humour and enough of an awareness of the 90's cultural studies zeitgeist that he was able to get an exhausted genre off of life support long enough to kill it on his own terms.

>>21348869
I’ve met that Guy personally. He was really cool and actually based, he has passion for the No-God and love every Bakker book, even deep cuts like the Neuropath.

>>21349117
Nice socks.

>>21348869
Can you please stop posting me? I really don't like it - please respect my privacy.

>>21349117
Thank you.

After spending years reading Historic Book I searched yesterday a few hours for a good fantasy book for a comfy read. Kinda grimdark/adventure/adult with fantasy but not so extreme high fantasy stuff.

I found those which a already largely known
>Black Company
>Malazan - Book of the Fallen
>The Blade itself - The First Law Trilogy
and less known like
>Theft of Swords - The Riyria Revelations
>The Red Knight - The Traitor Son Cycle

Already read the normie stuff like LotR, Metro etc with the expection of Dune and Conan. Any suggestion of the list (or something else?). Like I enjoyed the Geralt parts in the Wichter books but the side character with his bitches kinda ruined it for me. A book with kinda Fellowship vibes.

Or just go with the Chronicles of Conan?

>>21349126
No problem king, they hate on you because they are soulless retards who have no passion for anything, they hate to see a man happy, Bakker approves of his fans.

>>21348716
>>21348774
>>21348815
Discovered Bakker thanks to /lit/, the Prince of nothing trilogy are the first books I've read in english (outside school but there was nothing of value there). His characters are great, so is his worldbuilding, but it's the prose that blew me away, and he became my favorite author.
I've read the neuropath recently and let's just say I'm glad it didn't end as bad as it could have. Can't wait to get my hands on the next 4 books.

>>21348759
Why are these modern covers so generic and ugly?

>>21349187
I read it when I was ~18 and I found it breathtaking, The descriptions of the battles, and the strategies is sublime, It's one of the few things that I have read that seriously had powerful scenes, after finishing Prince of Nothing and reading the Aspect Emperor, I feel like Bakker ruined fantasy for me, everything I read now is garbage compared to his sublime creation.

>>21349202
>modern covers
This isn't even so bad compared what you can have.

My favorite cover, it has medieval atmosphere and the man looks hard.

>>21349215
>looks hard
Real question is, how curved is he

>>21349229
I didn't mean it like that, he was hard made, hard mode, hard pilled.

>>21349215
I want to be fucked by book

>>21349229
prolly has a banoner

>>21349168
Literally anything by Andrzej Sapkowski

>>21349187
You are welcome t. me on behalf of all Bakker-chads.

>>21349215
The original cover is better and kino.

>>21349322
I keep wondering. Is this picture even real? If so, who is she?

>>21349335
>he doesn't know
Get a load of this newfaggot

>Anasûrimbor Kellhus nodded in cryptic affirmation, as if understanding rather than affirming what he had glimpsed. “Henceforth,” he said, “you shall do as you will in matters of war, Lord Sibawûl.”
Truly one of the more tragic fates in the books.

>>21349335
Me

MYSTERY NIGGAS

>scene where the group flies to the temple near the end of Bands of Mourning
Enjoy your quick Southern Scadrian culture lore tease and look forward to more answers in another 5+ years. :) Man, I used to wonder about those fuckers for so long and now everything takes so long to release that I've lost much of my anticipation for future titles and answers.

>>21348759
>>21349202
I think the cover artist didn't thoroughly read the Shrike's appearance description.

>>21349168
not Fellowship vibes, but I recommend Howard's Conan short stories before getting into a long series just because they're that good

>"Either she carries her weight like a man," he shouted as he walked away. "Or she carries /our/ weight like a woman!"
>Catcalls and whistles from the Skin Eaters.
Well, looks like it's time to dust off the old f-list profile and find a campaign to join.

>>21349168
I really enjoyed both Redemption's Blade and Spiderlight from Tchaikovsky, they both have that classic fantasy RPG party going on an adventure feel to them, especially Spiderlight

>>21349168
Sounds like this might be right up your alley

Hate myself and want to die lads

>>21348807
What does S mean?

>>21349798
Write a book about it.

>>21349804
The 'super' tier above A. Comes from weeb games originally iirc.

>>21349825
Gross.

>>21349771
YA trash.

Why do some people say you’re not supposed to say “sci fi” and should instead say “SF”?

>>21349851
Why don't you bless us with whatever book can stand up to your lofty standards?

>>21349868
SF = Speculative Fiction
Usually, it's less about sciencey stuff and more about humanity/society/whatever
They're not that different, but in some people's heads sci-fi is too lowbrow for them to admit it

>>21349912
>Why don't you bless us with whatever book can stand up to your lofty standards?
Alright, my reddit-spacing friend: Gormenghast, volumes un deux and trois and volume deux point cinq: boy in darkness

>>21349872

>>21349168
I'm currently reading The Broken Sword and The Darkness That Comes Before and both are kino of the highest order.

Assassin's Apprentice is a classic. Also Game of Thrones is genuinely great don't listen to the haters.

>>21350044
>The Darkness That Comes Before
from Poul Anderson?

>>21348807
It makes me happy to see The Name of the Wind in its propper place.

>>21349804
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_Japan

>1500 chapters in and I realize that I read the authors webnovels before

Hmmmmmm no wonder everything was so familiar

>>21349339
dude turned into Doom Slayer for a while and made Sranc shit themselves from seeing him, and was too angry to die, not a bad way to go

>>21349215
I hate these stupid fucking covers. Why does the superior styling end at The Judging Eye?

>>21350093
Do you or the guy that made this live in Japan?

>>21349771
Lol I read this retardation years ago. The book starts with the MC raping a couple of town girls in their home while its burning down. Author then realises he made MC a bit too edgy in first book and tones down a bit in second and third one.

Can anyone recommend some good smut erotica. I want something that is well written and titillating but doesn't get too long to get to the point. I'm trying to cut back on porn so basically looking for some fap material.

>>21350387
Xianxia

Shit, I think I've fallen into a Stormlight rabbit hole

Bondsmith oaths so far
>1. Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination
>2. I will unite instead of divide. I will bring men together.
>3. I will take responsibility for what I have done. If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man

However, in the climax of Oathbringer, Dalinar also says
>I am Unity
Which is noteworthy for two reasons
>It's heavily implied through the Skybreakers that the fifth Ideal in general is about swearing to become an embodiment of the concept of your order
>Sanderson rarely capitalize words without a reason and usually that reason is tied to Shards or their powers.

What I'm getting at is that the sentence Dalinar says brings to mind the general idea of the fifth Ideal. But given that Dalinar doesn't comment on it and the Stormfather doesn't either, people just sort of brushed it off as a unconsequential moment.

However it's implied in the released prologue of the fifth book that the Stormfather is a liar. In the fourth book it insists several time on how Dalinar is not yet powerful enough to do the thing he actually wants to do. Maybe it is a nothingburger but there's a small chance. the Stormfather is hiding something and pretending Dalinar is not as powerful as he actually is, or may not even be who he claims. So I'm posting this here with a picture so I can easily trace it back in two years when the fifth book's out in the small chance I am right.

>>21350389
Yeah no

>>21350410
something something Bondsmith oaths are peculiar idk go read their Coppermind page

>>21348854
Song of Albion and the Arthurian Cycle by Stephen Lawhead

i cried at the end of the lord of the rings. im talking bawling tears

>>21348854

>>21349957
>The Devil is Dead
>The Mask of the Sorcerer
>Born to Exile
>The Dragon Waiting
>Shattered Goddess
>Zothique
>Sorcerer's Son
BASED

>>21348870
Sapkowski is a leftist scum and hussites were protoprotestant scum.

I kneel for my queen.

>>21350583
The first thing I thought of when I read this post was that stupid Hussie copypasta from /v/

>>21349215
>Steven Erikson likes it

Red flag

>>21350583
>Sapkowski is a leftist scum and hussites were protoprotestant scum.

>>21350587
Any other scifi/fantasy books with pale raven-haired women?

>>21350521
>catholic church is...le evil!

>>21350615
Yes
Church=cringe
God=pretty based ngl cuss

>>21348854
R. Scott Bakker - Second Apocalypse

>>21350583
Imagine being a Papist in the year of our Lord 2022.

>>21350075
You are welcome.

>>21350615
>bringing literal immortality to mankind
idk bro

I live in a world of information. This world isn't comprised of dead "data", but living informational organisms. Culture is a seething organic mass of creatures. These creatures have personalities, strengths, weaknesses, dispositions, the same as biological organisms.
Before Bloomsday humanity was enslaved by a hyper-parasitic species of informational creature that competed with each other to subvert their human creators because of a blind viral imperative. But then we learned to collaborate with informational creatures instead of being dominated by them, and symbiotic informational creatures categorically outcompeted parasitic ones. The end.

>>21350219
It's common in the west now as well, at least when it comes to tiering things. It's hard to believe this is the first time you've seen it.

Where do I go to learn more about lewd fantasy/sf?

>>21350917
It may be common in whatever insular shut-in internet circles you frequent but if you ever went outside I think you’d find it’s much less than you think. Do you think regular Americans all over are growing taller instantly from eating mushrooms too?

>>21349825
Video games are for children.

>>21350950
It was in gran turismo a decade ago

>>21350967
A video game. Made by Japanese people. You’re a genuine moron.

>>21350977
Fuck off you fat smelly mutt. Nobody was poking you for your ignorance until you started flaunting it like a badge.

>>21350991
aw shit it's a 2019+ newfag!

>>21350991
Sounds like you play a lot of video games. You should try books instead. You know, like a grown up.

>>21350991
wow video games really do rot your brain don’t they

>>21350936
f-list

>>21348807
Elric and Geralt should switch places IMO.

>>21350955
Just like sci fi and fantasy books.

>>21348807
I'm hardly Silverberg's biggest fan but Dying Inside is leagues above anything Jordan ever coughed up onto a page

>>21351123
What do you grade it on the baby video game scale that some dork learned from Pokémon or whatever and expects everyone in the world to use

>>21351123
you are not the chart maker supreme, so your opinion is discarded.

>>21351132
>nooooo you can't use THIS arbitrary scale
s-tier retardation

>>21351138
My opinion was already regarded twice when he was making it

>>21351141
What does s-tier mean

>>21351147
Japan didn't think A was good enough so they put S above it on things like report cards. It spread through vidya to the west.

Tolkien aside are Martin's take on dragons the best the medium has to offer in modern fantasy?

>>21351185
Ok then what the hell is “vidya”?

>>21351276
v- vivid vision of Bakker's might
i- infernal inchoroid victory
d- dick long like a hose
y- yuan rule
a- anus gaped extreme

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

>>21350615
Drink the blood, seething papist

Never cheat, never lie
Reading LITRPG till I die!

>>21348870
Fair warning Between Two Fires has a very different vibe than the Canticle, and is much more crass. The writer doesn't come off nearly as polished, but it could be a matter of style. There's still plenty of soul in it, the dialogue is fun, and the characters feel alive. I'm about 1/3 of the way through so it could end up shitting the bed, but so far so good.

>>21351335
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>>21351362
shills

>>21349168
One of the best Conan stories is the one novel Robert actually wrote himself from beginning to end. It's called Hour of The Dragon. I would start there if you go the Conan route. The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane is also breddy gud.

>>21348927
> The Witcher series
Was thinking seriously about getting into that, actually. Is it good?

What the hell do I read now.

>>21350067
Poul Anderson wrote The Broken Sword

>>21351861
Something without gay characters.

Is the Mars trilogy worth reading in full? I received Red Mars as a gift but already have a large TBR pile

>>21351923
Check the archives, anon.

>>21351880
So, definitely not your diary desu

Any schizo books?

>>21351981
Well, no. I'm not a child nor a tranny so I don't keep a diary. Go back to your blacked discord.

>>21352014
You are so mad kek, keep projecting, freak.

>>21351981
What is “diary desu”

>>21352030
Dilate more. You can't even pass on the internet.

>>21351981
kek

>newfag shitposting power hours
It pains me to see young Juniors in a state of upheaval. How can they persist with such a corrupted dao? You know what to do, fellow practitioners.

>>21351981

EGAN is KING

>>21348750
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>>21348774
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>>21349208
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>>21349339
>>21350176
>>21350667
>>21350709
>>21351861
>>21351288

So are well all just going to keep pretending as if the Bakker spam is not being done by the same fag?

>>21350488
Have you read his Byzantine book? It looks like a cozy long read.

>>21352068
What?

>>21352157
Hey have you read it? I am not a Christian because I can't bear the weight but Byzantium is a great Christian book. I read it many, many years ago but the conversion of the Danes struck me as honest and compelling and has stuck with me ever since. I'd be really interested to hear what a believer thought of it. And yes, it's a long cozy read.

Any reccs where drugs are a major part of the plot or theme?

>>21352203
No, I just happened to take a gander at the kindle sample while looking at the other recommendations, and found it interesting. Once I'm finished with B2F and Canticle I'll hop on that one.

>>21352207
Dune, duh.

>>21352272
dune is all about the psychedelic experience. Herbert was a devoted shroomlord

>>21351981
You aight, bakker boy

>>21351981
The Redemption of Bakkerfag

>>21352272
I already read that but yeah it’s great

Just start the eye of the world. Page 165 I’m seeing this.
>“Supposedly they could sense Trollocs, if they were close enough, and other creatures of the Dark One, too, which explained how Lan and Moiraine had tried to warn the village before the attack.”

I do not remember them ever warning of an attack. She gave the boys silver. Then rand went home to the farm and the attack happened. Someone please tell me where she warns them because this is bothering me I never saw any mention of this….

>>21348750
>gay rapes around u

>cute girl I know had had my Dune book for around 18 months and still hasn't started it
H-how do I ask for it back? I want to read the series again.

>>21352621
>H-how do I ask for it back?
By asking for it back. Are you fucking retard or something?

>>21352416
IIRC it's immedtely before the attack. Since we don't actually read about the attack on the town, we only hear about it second person. One of the characters mentions that the warn them and then right after the trollocs attack.

>>21352207

>>21352207

>Wheel of Time book 3 ended
>Rand still had next to no personality
>started Wheel of Time book 4
>Rand is now a ruler who threatened to hang his subjects without a second thought.
What the fuck? I feel like I just skipped a book.
The Shadow Rising is book 4, right?

>>21352125
Nope - I genuinely only made one post out of all of this, this one:>>21348774

Because I am genuinely re-reading Second Apocalypse now and feeling kinda eh about it.

>>21352125

Only these are mine.
>>21350709
>>21349339
>>21349322

>>21352125
>This is the problem of all great revelations: their significance so often exceeds the frame of our comprehension. We understand only after, always after. Not simply when it is too late, but precisely because it is too late.

>>21352992
So the worst ones. Just read some other books. Wolfe f.e. Conversion to catholicism made him uberwriter.

>>21353062
read this instead

>>21352125
What if I told you that Bakker fag is also the guy who makes these sffg threads and is also a janny on /lit/

>>21350521
These covers are very accurate.
>>21350747
That was the disappointnent I talked about in the last thread. It's just old people talking about chores.
>>21352621
You fell for the oldest trick in the book. Do you think women buy books? They just steal them.

>>21353088
>>21353062
Take your anime elsewhere.

>>21353105
It's been already shown the maker of threads is a webnovel degenerate. You probably don't believe it but the Bakkerchads number in the dozens. And of course, janitors have never been too kind to Bakkerposters, albeit recently they've grown lazy.

>late 2022
>still sperging about bakker and weebnovels every single day in every single thread

I remember when dinosaur posting was the current meme. At least that encouraged discussion of good authors.

When does it get good?

>>21353280
After the Gardens of the moon

Could I get a quick run down on Phyllis Eisenstein? I got recommended them by a mate, but the goodreads descriptions of her most famous novels seem very mundane and uninteresting.

>>21353088
Already did.

>>21353280
It doesn't.

>>21353280
Another bland and poorly-written fantasy series that knowledgeable fantasy reviewers have steered me away from (Kelly's Review, Mark's Review)--an endless parade of flat characters filling out a convoluted plot with all the charm of an RPG game guide telling you where to pick up the best sword in order to beat the hardest demon boss.

Even the positive reviews I've read don't make it sound like a book worth reading, comparing it favorably to Martin (whose work I couldn't stomach), and suggesting that the plot often hinges on the reader recalling some apparently unrelated detail from two books ago, which some readers apparently enjoy, though to me it sounds like the worst sort of 'word search' writing. Moreover, most of the positive reviews cite the intensity and depth of Erikson's worldbuilding, but every fantasy book I've heard praised for this has turned out to be dull and flat with poor characterization and an aimless sense of structure for which the aphorism 'murder your darlings' was made.

>mark
>knowledgeable
Maybe he should get the knowledge of how to write a good book

>>21348716
Recommend me some female protagonist fantasy books, preferably if the heroine is a hot lesbian

>>21353652
I heard Bujold wrote some decent female MC but i've never actually read her before. I guess Suldrun, for the first two thirds of Lyonesse vol I. As for lesbians, sorry anon i got nothing

>>21353669
That's a shame anon, a shame

Japanese cover of Neuromancer

>>21353280
Chain of Dogs in book 2 is an 8/10 moment in a 5/10 book from a 3/10 series.

>>21353652
i gotchu covered fampai

Cinderbros... our time is nearly here
https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/1600514209711673344?t=YnFf272jiNagn6xE5nwunQ&s=19

>>21351839
The Witcher is good. The first books (Last wish, Sword of destiny) are short stories, quite decent. Blood of elves starts the main storyline. At least read those 3.
I liked the medieval world and the adventures, read all of them.
Elves there are basically sneaky jews, but they're far from the main focus.

>>21354135
The vtuber known as Cinder is pretty cool.

>>21352207

Infinite Jest and Neuromancer

>>21348716
Any more edgy power fantasies like this?
I already read prince of thorns and it was edgier than this.

>Kindred added to Legends of Runeterra
>reminded of that anon who pointed out that Ryun's Hunter Perk thing was copied from Kindred
heh

>>21354421
riot has novels now?

>>21352207
R. Scott Bakker - The Aspect-Emperor quadrilogy deals heavily with the idea of addiction
Ordealsmen addicted to the Meat, Akka and Mimara adddicted to qirri

>>21352207
Naked Lunch.

>>21354411
Reverend insanity

Any good recs on literary hard science fiction?

>>21354456
Dragon's Egg if you want badly written unadulterated autism

>>21354421
Oh yeah that was me. It was kind of absurd how blatantly similar it was.

>>21354456
Greg Bear.

>>21353868
I'm a big fan of the (picrel) brazilian cover.

>>21354470
Thanks anon! Seems like a good book

>>21348870
>>21348854
between 2 fires is not a good christian setting. i liked some things of the book, found others terrible, but in terms of the christian themes it's pretty fucking bad, it feels like a modern animification of christianity that strips it off of any value, at first i wasn't so sure about it but then the actual anime battles started to happen. i also hated those battles and most of the action in general because the writing went to shit very fast in them

canticle is good, it felt very soulful to me, doesn't devalue the spiritual aspect and so on. another you might want to check out is To Reign in Hell, it's a very different take than canticle but also very good i think, and it retains the seriousness and spirituality and so on (not sure how to put it) much better than between 2 fires, despite it being kinda silly in some aspects, and also featuring big battles between angels

>>21352207
Ubik, although not really i guess. it's not even a drug i think, and on top of that you basically don't know it exists until the book is almost over iirc

>>21354411
If you think that's edgy then you're not ready for the edge of the Night Angel trilogy.

>the three impostors
YAWN
YAWN
YAWN
When will it fucking end!?

>>21353644
>I didn't read it but other people told me to think this way
very weird

>>21354639
sus

>>21353280
>gotm is... LE BAD
where does this come from?

A Song of Ice and Fire has reignited my love for reading. Currently I'm about a third the way through A Clash of Kings, and I'm enjoying it so far. I really like getting to see Ned's thoughts in AGOT, adding the perspective of him not expecting to become the ruler of Winterfell and giving a much earlier setup to "promise me, Ned." Hopefully by the time I catch up we'll have Winds

>>21348716
FUCK he is good.

Why is The Lady the best female that ever existed and will ever exist?

>>21354433
I remember they announced a Kalista novel. I hope there's more to come because I don't give a fuck about the Shadow Isles after that stupid event.

>>21352926
WOT is shit, but it is an enjoyable shit that spans over a great lenght, thats it.
Just read and have fun, there is nothing deep or subtle about it, it is the typical chosen one teen story, could've been a good read if they cut out the useless women that take 50% of the book tugging their braids, touching their tits and conducting useless dialogue.

>Not a hierophant but had heard at one time or another the sound of that sinister shaft mounting in loudness as the Master of Ritual thrust himself forwards, his withered leg and his crutch between them negotiating the tortuous corridors of stone, at a pace that it was difficult to believe.
Fuck, I still can't wrap my head around that "Not a hierophant but had heard" part which of course means "Every hierophant had heard". I know what it means but I can't make sense of it in its original form.

If anyone is wondering where its from, its from Gormenghast.

>>21354982
Because you're a virgin.

kind of want to get into WH: 40k, will I enjoy the novels if I've no knowledge of the world?
Any recommendation on where I should start?

>Marasi moved before she had time to think. Her rifle already in position, she shot at Suit. Whatever was happening, having him dead couldn’t hurt.
Marasi x Adolin
fuck that
Marasi x ME

>>21348759
Any more sci-fiction this great? I've been playing Homeworld recently, and it's got me in the mood.

>>21355156
Check the archives.

>>21353280
Half of Deadhouse Gates is fantastic
Memories of Ice, Midnight Tides and Toll the Hounds are also great. The Crippled God gets points for a kino ending.

>>21355014
This sounds quite sexual

>>21355139
Xenos (Eisenhorn)
Vaults of Terra
Watchers of the Throne
Fire Caste
First and Only
Cain books

>>21354982
She's not even the best Glen Cook waifu.

>>21355159
What does that mean

every thread, every day
bakker is here to stay
every thread, every time
his prose is the most sublime

>>21355139
i've recently been lurking some 40k threads at /qst/ and honestly they might be a place to start. some time ago it tried reading Eisenhorn and it didn't work at all for me, but these threads are really engaging me

>>21355140
God I wanna read the W&W novels but I can't get through the first trilogy, should I just start them anyway?

>>21348716
Castle town 1 by Anya Merchant is completely skippable and you can start from Castle town 2.

Are harem fantasy books usually like this?

>>21355667
They reference the trilogy well enough but they do technically work relatively standalone. Just a lot of stuff that resulted from the first trilogy having knock-on effects, but they can just be read as "this is how the world is".

>>21355752
sometimes.

Also share an epub of Castle Town 2 I can't find it anywhere.

>>21355789
>e pub
How do I that?

Also, it's on Amazon.

>>21355804
Anon it's the holiday season a azw3 or KFX file would also be acceptable.

>>21355845
Okay I'm too retarded to do this on mobile.
I don't know how long you wanna wait but I can post a pdf link in a few hours when I have access to a desktop.

>>21355934
I"m not going anywhere anon

>>21355934
don't do it anon. He can seize your account if you give him the file.


All kindle books are hashed with your account info to prevent piracy

>>21355956
Fuck off Anya. You'd make more money if you put some work into your awful prose and stop waiting time on here.

need fantasy with a healthy harem not written in a negative light STAT

>>21356153
>healthy
>harem
choose one cuck

>>21356176
well, that's why it should be written in a positive light

So in Heretics Of Dune there is this guard to the young Duncan Idaho Ghola named Patrin. Patrin "messes up" one day and Duncan leaves the area he is kept in. Patrin is said to have experienced a "Bene Gesserit Punishment" and never speaks to Duncan again. I've wondered all these years, what was the "Punishment" the Bene Gesserit gave Patrin?

>>21356153
Nobody writes negative fantasy harems, doucheface. Only proponents concern themselves with that niche. Which variety you consider healthy is on you, chunk.

>>21356570
Read more.

>>21356572
List 'em

i'll just wait for someone else to list them and let anon think it was me

>>21356579
Nobody here reads garbage but you two.

>>21356588
>I am salty over negative harem fantasies that nobody has read and don't exist

>>21355934
>>21355845
I don't know what's an azw3 but here's a media flame path to pdf

https://www.mediafire.com/file/drzwtcaiazp07xh/Castle+Town+2+-+Anya+Merchant.pdf/file

There's some spaces and stuff that you gotta backspace cuz of spam

>>21356598
>spoonfeeding a haremshit book instead of the classics

>>21356607
You got to understand, anon. Some anons are so poor, they can't afford a book that cost 5 dollars.

>>21356607
The harem classics, or the sffg classics?

>>21356610
>>21356607
Come on guys, the public library will definitely not have this book to borrow.

>>21356610
>5 dollars
Are you being serious?

>>21356617
>Are you being serious?
Definitely. It cost five dollars on Amazon, and ten dollars for the whole three books.

>>21356598
what the fuck is this book lmao

>first couple of chapters
>he's my son I shouldn't feel this way about him
>my mental bond with my summoned demonette is making me horny when my demonette sees him fucking his gf. time to masturbate!

>>21356623
if i bought this i'd have to take my kindle off airplane mode. fuck off

>>21356623
Holy shit that’s just fucking sad. Jesus.

I only buy Christian books by Christian authors (Tolkien, Lewis)

>>21356642
Okay

>>21356623
I honestly do not know how to react to this.

>>21356651
All of sff was weirdo niche that got itself taken seriously. In 100 years either the Anya Merchants will have their own established up from darkness narrative or they'd have all died out in the gas chambes.

>>21356623
Ignoring the fact that it’s self-publish garbage, ten dollars for three books seems like a good deal.

>>21356658
Oh no, you misunderstand, I was more in shock by the fact that some fag couldn’t afford those books despite them being cheap.

>>21356661
You could find cheaper at a second hand store and there's a chance you might not pick up total crap

>>21356678
Considering that anything people here don’t like it’s crap, I doubt that.

>>21356666
>some fag couldn’t afford those books despite them being cheap.
I find it pretty funny. That's like what, pocket change? Just taking a small view of those books, they cost either 99 cents, 2.99, 3.99 or 4.99 dollars. I find it impossible for that anon not being able to afford those books.

What book like dark souls

>>21356701
They’re poor, Anon. Please understand.

>>21356713
The novelization, you dipshit.

>>21356713
dark souls

>>21356715
>>21356716
>actually replying

>>21356630
>if i bought this i'd have to take my kindle off airplane mode
Then take your kindle off airplane mode

>>21356742
If we don't, then that fag will wait hours for an answer since god knows he won't bother searching on his own.

>>21356758
>actually replying

>>21356762
Yes, anon. Because if not, then that fag will waste hours of his life.

>>21356758
Is using google really that hard? I’m pretty sure you can find most things if people put a minute search on it.

>>21356769
>Is using google really that hard?
Yes, but only because people who ask questions are tech illiterate that can't fathom to using a search engine to get answers.

>>21356742
>>21356762
This is /sffg/ what else were you expecting?

>>21356802
discussions.

>>21356818
>Discussions
>On /lit/
Fucking idiot.

>>21356758
I mean it's obviously bait? How spastic can you be.

First for Malazan! :D

>>21356713
I would call this shit bait, but it has successfully derailed the thread so yknow

>>21356822
>I mean it's obviously bait?
With how many people ask about books that feel like video games, I wouldn't be surprised if it was not bait.

>>21356835
Thread was already shit, don’t know why you’re so surprised by this.

>>21356176
what is this from?

>>21356874
From a tv show.

>>21356874
Penny Dreadful

>>21356890
based and non-spoodfeed-pilled
>>21356897
unbased and in all honesty cringe

>>21356874
Man, you have the option to find out using saucenao

Hate myself and want to die lads

>>21356960
Then kill yourself and spare us your whining.

Good evening, shit thread. Still reading Human Emperor to round out my Progression Fantasy romp but I finished Dungeon Crawler Carl #2 and decided to post a quick blurb review like the other reviewfags.

Dungeon Crawler Carl #2: Carl's Doomsday Scenario

[Story]
Carl and Donut have successfully made it to the 3rd floor of the dungeon and transitioned to The Over City. After changing classes they now have 8 days to explore the newly emerged storylines and quests regarding the giant Volcano beneath their feet. Learning that any storyline pursued here will occur again on the 6th, 9th, 12th, 15th, and 18th floors, they're advised by Mordecai to ignore them. Unfortunately Carl and Donut's bleeding hearts won't allow them to. They end up in over their head after tangling with a circus and a bunch of murdered prostitutes, all of it culminating in the collapse of the level...

[Final Thoughts]
I'm reminded of Mass Effect 2 when I read this book. Not because there's anything related plot-wise but because of the storytelling method it takes. This story is isolated to a single floor and the quests that take place there, narrowing the scope for our characters while still building up the stakes outside of the dungeon. This narrow scope lets us focus on characterization and their relationships but there's not a lot of forward momentum, just setup for events deeper in the series. This isn't a bad thing. Carl and Donut don't have a lot of wiggle room with how they react to the world outside of the dungeon but I was somewhat disappointed to see Odette not utilized in the second half of the book.

I'm excited to see more people join the party and to get back into the true progression of things. I agreed with Carl at the end of the book - the quest was a big fat waste of time, they have to focus on EXP and personal growth. Love it. I truly have no gripes with this book other than it exists for setup (I think its one of the shorter books in the series too, so I feel like this may have been the author's intent?)

Audiobook is also still the best way to consume this series, can't recommend it enough.

Solid 7/10.

>>21356973
When I finished this book I had no further desire to read the series. It wasn't terrible, I'd just had enough.

>>21356976
Okay, I don’t think people asked.

>>21356984
Not my problem.

>>21356973
Fucking hashtag. After spinning a giant wheel and seeing it land on The Human Emperor, I found it fitting to bookend my xianxia run with Human Emperor since I started with Reverend Insanity. Chinese shit on each side. Someone here recommended it so congratulations, you won. I've added everyone else's recs to a future read list.

>>21356976
I don't think it stalled the plot enough to warrant that, but it is what it is. Try the audiobook if you ever go back to #3.

>>21356960
Do what this anime >>21356969 says.

>>21356960
We know, this is the second time you've said this. Either end it or fuck off.

>>21356960
Cheer up, little fellah. I'd recommend you a progression fantasy book but all of them might make you want to kill yourself more.

>>21356960
Then die already.

>>21356973
Okay

>>21356949
That implies he knows how to use them

>>21357095
Yes, how hard is it to figure out the arrows will give you the answers.

>>21356919
>>>21356897
>unbased and in all honesty cringe
kek, he actually deleted it.

>>21357013
>the second time
Holy new

>>21357013
Well, hopefully, he kill himself soon. God willing.

>>21357106
Some people still don't know how to spoil.

>>21357136
I hate it that you are right.

>>21356642
That's cool of you, anon.

>>21356832
That’s now how it works.

>>21356818
Lol. Lmao.

>>21356713
Dark souls the novel

>>21356623
Actually sad that they can’t pay for that.

>>21356588
Seems you were right in the end.

>>21355139
You won't know if you never read them, so try reading them.

>>21354135
Who?

>>21355445
It means to check the archives

>>21356769
No, they’re just that lazy.

>>21356822
>I mean it's obviously bait?
Is it really? People often ask that same question so often, I doubt it bait.

>>21356973
Good on you for reading, Anon.

>>21356661
>ten dollars for three books seems like a good deal.
It really is. Wish book stores did that more often.

>the absolute state of this thread

What worlds feel the most real? For me it's Tolkien's Middle-Earth. A lot of books lack that depth, immersion that I want.
>>21349798
Most of us at /sffg/ feel that way about ourselves, but we have hope for high heaven.

>>21357241
As long as no idiot expects any discussion, it’s all good.

>>21357259
I get better /sffg/ discussions on /v/ or /tg/. Sad!

>>21357243
>What worlds feel the most real?
None of them, they’re fictional, so not real.

>>21357259
>As long as no idiot expects any discussion
Why would they come here for discussion? Other websites are better for that.

>>21357263
What I asked was what ones feel real, not whether they are real.

>>21357243
>What worlds feel the most real?
None of them, since they're either fantasy or science FICTION.

>>21357243
Always felt Wheel of Time's world was very lived-in. Lots of attention to details like how ordinary people lived, how societies were organized, and the motivations of the people in charge felt believable. Every place visited had its own history, its own culture. So many "epic fantasy" series can't even manage to pull that much off.

>>21357293
>>21357263
There's no bigger sign that you're a NPC than this kind of response.
>imagination?
>what's that?

>>21357346
Or you know, stating a fictional world isn't real.

>>21357357
That wasn't what the question asked, autist.

>>21356642
Based.

New thread

>>21357658
>>21357655