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Pic related is from a tiktok I saw that was showing famous peoples last words. I have 2 questions. Who was this student Hegel supposedly spoke to and how can we make sure we understand hegel?

>> No.21346221

That famous student? Karl Marx of course.

>> No.21346222

>>21346198
It was me

>> No.21346232

>>21346221
That wouldn't even make sense, it would be Feuerbach.

>> No.21346345

While Kierkegaard and Schopenhauer sat at the back of class throwing shit and the teacher’s pet

>> No.21346417

>>21346221
pretty sure the students name was albert einstein

>> No.21346516

>>21346221
And that student was Andrew Tate

>> No.21346618

>>21346198
cap, had hegel lived to see the majesty of my genius he would have known that a true heir to his project would come

>> No.21347639

>>21346345
Absolute chads

>> No.21347663

>>21346198

The quote was:
>"There was only one man who ever understood me, and even he didn't understand me."

Obviously unclear who, but could be:

>Goethe
He rewrote the phenomenology after seeing Goethe's work on intuitive science.

>Fichte
A lot of Hegel's philosophy is in a sense a development / correction / amplification of Fichte's wissenshacftslehre project.

>Böhme
Hegel was famously influenced by Böhme, though he held that mystical experiences of the Absolute are indeed accessible for us through reason, unlike hermeticism / rosicrucianism / mysticism.

>> No.21347753

>>21347663
Bohme was dead before he wrote. Fichte and Goethe were also older than him and didnt really interact with his work

>> No.21347786

>>21347753
You're acting as if you've never exclaimed to yourself, as you read an extremely enlightening thought belonging to another, 'He understands me'.

I am suggesting that perhaps Hegel thought that those men understood/did not understand him, where 'him' is interpreted as the idea guiding his work.

The support for this is his usual treatment of ideas that came before him--he will admire them, praise them, but find them in some sense lacking. Hence, in praise, they understood him, yet, in failing to trace the idea to its end, they did not understand him.

>> No.21347806

>>21347753
He knew Goethe quite well

>> No.21347821

>When you're a retarded mysticfag who conflates the essence of things with thinking

>> No.21347836

>>21347821
>When you're a retarded naive-realist empiricofag who conflates the essence of things with mere sense-certainty

>> No.21348003
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>>21346198
It's Schelling. In their university days, Hegel was roommates with Holderin, and the somewhat younger Schelling -- in their formative years, they were fast friends.
Schelling raised the most important and immediate objections to Hegel's Science of Logic -- that, in a completely presupposition-less framework, there is no reason that the thought of pure being should reveal itself to be nothing.

>> No.21348300

>>21347836
kek

>> No.21348343

>>21346198
Christian Hermann Weisse is one possibility

He and Hegel had some famous correspondence while Hegel was on his deathbed.

"You yourself, honored teacher, once orally indicated to me that you were totally convinced of the necessity of further progress and newer embodiments of the world-spirit, which would go further than the completed embodiment of science that you yourself had brought about. But you were not able to give me any further account of this."
[To which Hegel responded that there are bound to be many new shapes of spirit that he couldn't anticipate]

If I happened to get this right, don't let it reflect positively on /lit/ as a resource, these people are dumb as fuck and I only come here every now and again to answer questions

>> No.21348348

>>21348003
>Hegel's favorite student
>schelling

seriously dude
like 1. you completely made up this answer, you had no basis except that Schelling was a more important one of Hegel's billions of acquaintances 2. You couldn't even get as far as processing the actual question posed, which was about one of Hegel's students, of which there are many, and of which Schelling is OBVIOUSLY NOT ONE

>> No.21348350

>>21347821
How is Hegel mystical?

>conflates the essence of things with thinking
? Isn't it the opposite? An analysis of all the ways in which thinking misses its essence?

jk I know you don't know anything about this hahaha

>> No.21348758

>>21346198
Posting TikToks on 4chan should a bannable offence. Sage

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>>21346221
And that student was Albert Einstein

>> No.21349198

Eduard Gans

>> No.21349495

Schopenhauer

>> No.21349541

He was referring to me. His intellect allowed him to predict the future, where he saw me.

>> No.21349567

i am the favorite student

>> No.21349589

>>21346198
>>21347663
>There was only one man who ever understood me, and even he didn't understand me
Isn't that contradictory? What is he trying to say.

>> No.21349646

>>21349589
perhaps he understood, but came to the incorrect conclusion.

>> No.21349752

>>21349589
It's just a 'bon mot' you autist, it's supposed to be ambiguous but suggestive. You seriously can't parse together what he meant?

>> No.21349760

>>21349752
He sounds like a woman.

>> No.21349802

There's nothing transcendental or objective about Hegel's phenomenology of spirit, it's purely subjective.

>> No.21350246

>>21349802
why?