/lit/ - Literature

try Diary of Drug Fiend by Crowley.

>>21337441
Kierkegaard either/or

Passolini oil

>>21337441
Aristippus

>>21337441
Works by Epicurus, The Way Things Are by Lucretius.

>>21337548
They Epicureanism or negative hedonism. And specifically not what OP is asking for.
Maybe you should read them sometime. They’re really quite good.

Better yet how can you all of that while remaining a good christian ?

>>21337441
believing in hedonism doesn't automatically translate to a hedonistic lifestyle.
either way start from ancient greek ethics. The Morality of Happiness by Julia Annas is pretty thorough and all you really need to read.
>>21337520
he didn't write anything tard

>>21337575
And there’s no book on anything he ever said?
Tard

>>21337441
>I want something that can convince me to stop being spiritual.
Once you know the truth, you cannot forget/ignore it permanently. If you do, it was not the truth.

I would love to eat her beave and cum on her face

>>21337441
That's a man and he looks terrible.

>>21337712
it's a woman
>>21337595
stop being weird, it's /lit/ not /r9k/ we're supposed to be cultured, and smart.

It'll happen naturally if you're a handsome sociopath.

>>21337441
that's the default tendency for human beings, why on earth would you want to encourage it?

if you are suffering from bad spirituality occluding into nature then you need therapy, probably. true spirituality is enlivening, makes you happy, joyous even.

>>21337441
Hedonism isn't a philosophy/doctrine. I'd advise listening to pop music about partying and being younger than 20, though many people persist in chasing these pleasures for much longer; I've known many tragic party animals in their late twenties and it's a sad look. The satisfaction just isn't worth the effort/come-down, and most people grow out of it not because they think it's wrong but because they become too cynical to the outcome of their exertions, which are huge compared to the efforts required for other pleasurable pursuits. Once you know you can't fill that hole with drugs/sex/clubbing you start grasping for the whole and when you recognize you can't grasp that then you're left with this emptiness in a world full of blind void stuffers whose efforts are swallowed by time without leaving a single, permanent, imprint of joy on their psyche. TV, Games, Books and masturbation are much easier so most people just take that route to shelter from the suffering, like me for example. Have a nice life.

>>21337726
>/lit/
>cultured and smart

lmao how new are you?

As >>21338362 points out: it's already the case. Humans inherently indulge and seek those things; either as a death anxiety outlet or just unconscious consumerism.

>>21337441
you don't need books for that. you only need to go to /gif/ and fap until your brain drains. This is not a suggestion.

>>21337574
there's no greater hedonistic pleasure than moving a lawn and lifting weights. I'm pretty sure those are allowed by god

>>21338539
>moving a lawn

>>21337441
Obviously de Sade.

>>21338625
oh sorry, I meant moeing a lawn

>>21338539
>mowing
>lawn
ngmi

>>21338761
White people invented a thing called a lawnmower, chang.

>>21338785
>Lawns
Stupid waste of space

>>21338785
i know, that's why you walmartians look the way you do and real white people are attractive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ31uqH07E and actually have a garden

>>21338656
Doesn't help your case.

>>21337441
Why do you need a book for that? You already know what you want. Just fucking do it. These "i need a book about x" threads need to fucking die.

how do you /make/ yourself hedonistic, you either are born to indulge or you're not you fuckin loon

>>21337726
Fuck this guy I like books and sex

>>21338833
>Eastern European is white but blonde Germans in central US aren't
nice cope

>>21337497
that had the opposite effect

The Holy Bible

>>21339183
>germans
>in us
are they visiting?

>>21337441
unironically basketball diaries or watch the movie.
pray that you can do 10 bags of heroin everyday and live off the royalties of your autobiography
or
you can just keep doing what you've been doing, like posting that lust provoking image and keep on fapping brother.

>>21337571
Positive hedonism outstrips negative hedonism by far. Negative hedonism is completely irrational in comparison, or at least it entirely relies on the Epicureans' inability to admit that they're simply too afraid or cucked to actually take what they want.

Socrates compared people who pursue bodily pleasures to animals. He is right too. An animal that wants sex will do sex. An animals that wants food will get food. You’re a literal dog if you think pursuing every pleasure makes you enlightened. Marcus Aurelius said people who commit a wrong doing out of anger or a wrong in the past are more noble than people who do it out of pleasure

Hedonism is a state of degradation.

>>21337441
All the books that are warnings against hedonism and just ignore the warning itKS0AXself

>>21337441
try Diary of Drug Fiend by Crowley.

>>21339347
Both of these statements would be true in the world where there is objective morality. Since there is no objective morality or even objective reality anymore these statement don't mean anything for the people of the god forsaken 21st century.

>>21339347
Socrates was full of shit
animals RUT others go in heat , it's seasonal, biological, used for reproducing.
Instinct

>>21337575
check out The Birth of Hedonism: The Cyrenaic Philosophers and Pleasure as a Way of Life by Kurt Lamp, he gives a decent reconstruction of Aristippus' philosophy from the various pieces of writing about him from other authors

the answer is obviously MARQUIS DE SADE. cant believe no one else has said it yet. read Justine. its pure hedonism. and 120 days of sodom I guess. Justine's better though.

>>21337441
That's a man.

>>21337441
Get a prostitute, there is almost always at least one in any good book. If you think there is some kind of secret way to get pussy, you are wrong.

>>21341066
You're dumb

>>21341427
>Get a prostitute.
I can get pussy easily, but I will feel guilty. Something in me is like "This is not a proper way to live" I want to kill that part with hedonism.

>>21337441

>>21341697
poor anon
he's not meant for this gay earth

>>21341697
why? it is a normal feeling to have. have some shame. put up with it you weak disgusting man

>>21341697
FUCK A PROSTITUTE>feel guilty>fuck another prostitute>slowly but surely you will accept your new life
But you will become a degenerate. And you will deny yourself some other opportunities, and you will know it. It's not like you can just not know what filthy scum you are, nevertheless in my opinion it is possible to accept it and not feel guilty.
It is truly a cowards way, reading about all that instead of DOING IT

>>21339191
that's the point, why would anyone want to turn into an hedonist

>>21339197
based and blessed

>>21341890
Why would someone want to turn away from pessimism, death worship, and mindless slavery?
HMMMMMM I wonder!

>>21341904
death will come for you in the end, and then the eternal flames of the netherworld that you deserve

Is the picture a man or woman?

>>21342051
a wo(man)

>>21337517
anon, got a pdf of this book? or at least care to elaborate more about it...? including your reference to Petrolio if I understood correctly?

>>21337441
zorba the greek

>>21337441
i always thought this was the premise of knausgard's shit but i've never actually read his works

Just go out into the world and get shit on
Come face to face with true failure
Pursue something and fall short time and time again

Drinking / drug abuse are pretty stupid though. I grew up dirt poor and fell into addictions at an early age and conquering those was the best thing I’ve ever done. Now women are basically my greatest sin.

>>21337441
You don't need to stop being spiritual in order to enjoy life as a hedonist.
Read Evola's Yoga of Power - it is a nice intro to tantrism and in the first few chapters explains why us humans of the Kali yuga must undertake the active path to enlightenment through bodily pleasures and working with what the world of "le illusions" aka maya offers us.

>>21343162
Could you post some of it?

>>21337441
anything beatniks

>>21337441
You don't need to read books to be a hedonist.

Just watch anime.

>>21339313
>OP tries to become hedonist
>becomes a coomer instead

>>21343439
>The analysis of the last age, the 'dark age' or Kali Yuga, brings to light two essential features. The first is that mankind living in this age is strictly connected to the body and cannot prescind from it; therefore, the only way open is not that of pure detachment (as in early Buddhism and in the many varieties of yoga) but rather that of knowledge, awakening, and mastery over secret energies trapped in the body. The second characteristic is that of the dissolution typical of this age. During the Kali Yuga, the bull of dharma stands on only one foot (it lost the other three during the previous three ages). This means that the traditional law (dharma) is wavering, is reduced to a shadow of its former self, and seems to be almost succumbing. During Kali Yuga, however, the goddess Kali, who was asleep in the previous ages, is now fully awake. . . . let us say that this symbolism implies that during the last age elementary, infernal, and even abyssal forces are untrammeled.
This is about our condition and limitations as men of Kali yuga, and the shift in our methods that needs to be made so we can achieve what ancient people could do through detachment from this world.
>In regard to hatha yoga, one of the first applications of this instrument concerns one's own body. The goal is to gradually acquire a subtle perception of it and of the forces acting in it. One of the misunderstandings that the yoga practiced in the West has generated is to believe in the existence of physical methods leading to spiritual realizations. This is absolutely preposterous; when the Hindu texts speak about the physique, they are actually referring to something very different from what our contemporaries, especially modern Europeans, mean by that term.
And there he goes on about his occult anatomy which is basically hermetic view of physical, astral and spiritual body being linked etc.
Tbh I just like to bang my gf and feel the power as her ass transforms into an ass of a goddess in front of my eyes because we're both in a liminal state. Psychedelics can enhence this feeling with visuals if you need a jump-start.

>>21344607
>Tbh I just like to bang my gf and feel the power as her ass transforms into an ass of a goddess in front of my eyes because we're both in a liminal state. Psychedelics can enhence this feeling with visuals if you need a jump-start.
Holy Based, do you actively close the circuit and feel the Sympathetic vibrations?

>>21341697
I'd say the more you do it, the easier it becomes. Just a guess.

I'd do it sober though, mixing drugs in will just amplify the guilt on the comedown etc. etc.

>be me
>become hedonist
>get fat

wtf bros it was meant to be like this

>be me
>become hedonist
>get fat

wtf bros it wasnt meant to be like this

>develops anhedonia

>>21343162
Don't read Evola read this

>>21337441
I encourage you to test your theories but at the same time I want you to be aware of your natural self. There is no agenda in what I just said, if you think so then maybe you need to evaluate your mental/spiritual? state. The answer is there. We all need to stop wasting our time with superficial satisfactions

>>21337441
you can't post that without giving source

>>21344620
Sounds about right. And you actually start seeing colors and shapes, like the power is overflowing into your consciousness.
But this is not hedonism in the sense of overindulging until you get sick or banging random whores without any feelings. You use everything sex has to offer. It's about maximizing pleasure for the sake of pleasure and then identifying with this principle.

>>21344658
Thanks for the recommendation. I only know tantrism through Evola but it might be outdated and faulty. I only recommended it because it summed it up nicely in the first few chapters.

>>21342267
Anon pls. What is it?

>>21345763
it's a man(woman)

>>21345867
Biological male turned female..? I was hoping it would be not this because I cannot imagine nothing more depressing..

>>21337441
so is it a man or what
i'm having a crisis deciding to save the image

>>21337441
Henry Miller - Tropic of Cancer