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>The Jews are the most fateful nation in world history: their after-effect has falsified mankind to such an extent that today it is possible for a Christian to feel anti-semitic without realizing he is himself the ultimate consequence of the Jews.

>> No.21335751

>>21335679
Ashkenazis are not the Jews of the old testament lmao. /lit/ is /lit/erally retarded

>> No.21335948

>>21335679
They're nothing alike?

>> No.21336009

>>21335948
That's the point. Nietzsche's quote describes Kanye's antisemitism perfectly

>> No.21336149

>>21335751
that's a non-sequitur there, friendo.
just sayin

>> No.21336168

>>21336009
Isn't that quote saying Jews are bad?

>> No.21336193

>>21336149
non-sequitur my asshole nigger

>> No.21336202

>>21335679
It’s like when I see anti-Semites complaining about homosexuality, when anti-homosexual sentiment is a Semitic invention… (Nietzsche also criticises Jews and Christians for this)

>> No.21336206

>>21336202
Take it to counter-currents, faggot.

>> No.21336208
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Jews are Edomites, not Israelites.

>> No.21336209

>>21336202
Wrong. Greek homoeroticism is not homosexuality. Being unable to be attracted to women is clearly abnormal and such a Greek wouldn't even be able to relate to 99% of his myths.

>> No.21336225

>>21335679
Except that 99.9% of modern day "jews" have absolutely nothing to do with biblical jews beyond semantics and similar rituals
Reminder that the majority of living jews today are descendents of 7-10th Italians and Greek converts looking for trading privileges with muslim controlled mediterranean coastal cities

>> No.21336239

>>21336225
Want everybody to have another friendly reminder that European jews are absent entirely in any European history until the 7-10th centuries. There is zero records of any jews in Europe before this period and then suddenly you have multiple accounts. What happened? It's weird, jews tell themselves they were banished from Palestine by the Romans(never happened) yet the biggest jewish revolt in history occured in 7th century Palestine. I thought they all left? Did the muslims kick them out? Wait! The muslims actually gave jews MORE privileges and freedom of movement in Palestine compared to the Byzantines. Why would the jews then, given better privileges, leave Palestine to a much poorer backwater that was the early medieval western and eastern Europe? There are zero accounts of any Jewish migration out of Palestine in this region, and no accounts of Jewish arrivals into Europe.
Hmmmmm

>> No.21336283

>>21336209
>Being unable to be attracted to women is clearly abnormal and such a Greek wouldn't even be able to relate to 99% of his myths.
Sophocles and Zeno of Citium were both known for being exclusive pederasts

>> No.21336287

>>21336209
Several famous Greeks also argued that love of boys was superior to love of women

>> No.21336326
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>>21335679
>We have nothing here to do with the astoundingly varied attempts of speculative human reason to explain the nature of this Son of the God, who walked on earth and suffered shame: where the greater miracle had been revealed in train of that manifestation, the reversal of the will-to-live which all believers experienced in themselves, it already embraced that other marvel, the divinity of the herald of salvation. The very shape of the Divine had presented itself in anthropomorphic guise; it was the body of the quintessence of all pitying Love, stretched out upon the cross of pain and suffering. A—symbol?—beckoning to the highest pity, to worship of suffering, to imitation of this breaking of all self-seeking Will: nay, a picture, a very effigy! In this, and its effect upon the human heart, lies all the spell whereby the Church soon made the Græco-Roman world her own. But what was bound to prove her ruin, and lead at last to the ever louder "Atheism" of our day, was the tyrant-prompted thought of tracing back this Godliness upon the cross to the Jewish "Creator of heaven and earth," a wrathful God of Punishment who seemed to promise greater power than the self-offering, all-loving Saviour of the Poor. That god was doomed by Art: Jehova in the fiery bush, or even the reverend Father with the snow-white beard who looked down from out the clouds in blessing on his Son, could say but little to the believing soul, however masterly the artist's hand; whereas the suffering god upon the cross, "the Head with wounds all bleeding," still fills us with ecstatic throes, in the rudest reproduction.

>The departure-point for the Jews winning a share in a development of the Christian religion lay ready in the historical fact—that Jesus of Nazareth was born in a corner of their little land, Judæa. Instead of seeing in so incomparably humble an origin a proof that among the ruling and highly-cultured nations of that historic period no birthplace could be found for the Redeemer of the Poor; that for very reason of its utmost lowliness this Galilee, distinguished by the contempt of the Jews themselves, could alone be chosen for cradle of the new belief,—to the first believers, poor shepherds and husbandmen in dull subjection to the Jewish law, it seemed imperative to trace the descent of their Saviour from the royal house of David, as if to exculpate his bold attack on all that Jewish law. Though it is more than doubtful if Jesus himself was of Jewish extraction, since the dwellers in Galilee were despised by the Jews on express account of their impure origin, we may gladly leave this point with all that concerns the history of the Redeemer to the Historian, who for his part declares that "he can make nothing of a sinless Jesus." For us it is sufficient to derive the ruin of the Christian religion from its drawing upon Judaism for the elaboration of its dogmas.

CONT

>> No.21336331

>>21336326
>Now if we probe to the bottom of our boasted Civilisation, we find that it really has been made to do duty for the never fully-flowered spirit of the Christian religion, the latter being merely used for hallowing a compromise between brutality and cowardice.

>This cloud is still so dense, that it is truly astounding to see the highest minds of every age since the rise of the Bible enveloped in it, and thereby led to shallowness of judgment. Take Goethe, who held Christ for problematical, but the good God for wholly proven, albeit retaining the liberty to discover the latter in Nature after his own fashion; which led to all manner of physical assays and experiments, whose continued pursuit was bound, in turn, to lead the present reigning human intellect to the result that there's no God whatever, but only "Force and Matter".

>The blood of the Saviour, the issue from his head, his wounds upon the cross,—who impiously would ask its race, if white or other? Divine we call it, and its source might dimly be approached in what we termed the human species' bond of union, its aptitude for Conscious Suffering. This faculty we can only regard as the last step reached by Nature in the ascending series of her fashionings; thenceforth she brings no new, no higher species to light, for in it she herself attains her unique freedom, the annulling of the internecine warfare of the Will. The hidden background of this Will, inscrutable in Time and Space, is nowhere manifest to us but in that abrogation; and there it shews itself divine, the Willing of Redemption. Thus, if we found the faculty of conscious suffering peculiarly developed in the so-called white race, in the Saviour's blood we now must recognise the quintessence of consciously willed suffering itself (des bewusst wollenden Leidens selbst), that godlike Pity which streams through all the human species, its fount and origin.

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