/lit/ - Literature

>>21329895
Because, half the time, Fascism doesn't exist.

>>21329895
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>>21329895
>no fascist art or literature
whar is fascism

>>21329895
This is bait. I'll reply anyways.

https://www.italianfuturism.org/manifestos/foundingmanifesto/

>>21329903
Fpbp

>>21329895
Every American film has ripped off Nazi films.

There were a few notable modernist artists who were either fascists or fascists or fascist sympathizers.

>>21329895
Because they can’t create.

>>21329895
A lot was destroyed. A large portion of the art is thanks to the catholic church.
But I can assure you that there is still a lot of "fascist" literature, because it is on my shelf. Note that "fascist" is in scare-quotes, much like "far-right" would be, because very little fascism truly exists. I'll drop the scare quotes for now. You have British fascism (Oswald Mosley), who was more of a national syndicalist than a fascist, Italian fascism (Mussolini), which held a lot more marxist ideas than anyone would be comfortable with admitting, and Irish fascism, under Gearóid Ó Cuinneagáin, Eoin O’Duffy, and Frank Ryan. They weren't so much fascists as they are hardcore traditionalist militant Republicans that helped Francisco Franco out a bit and they were anti-Marxists, which is probably why people think of them as fascists. I know more about Irish fascism than the three I mentioned, with a small mention towards Spain's falangism, which I would still not really consider fascism. All mentioned were third position through and through, though, and had a lot similarities and overlap mentioned in Giovanni Gentile's book and Benito Mussolini's ideas of what fascism is. There is a cruel irony in Mussolini not following his own ideas, but he was pretty much just learning as he went and did the whole "fake it 'til you make it" routine, since he was relatively very new to the world of "right wing" anything. But that's out of the scope of this discussion.
>>21329907
That's a decent, fast read over. You should check out Giovanni Gentile's Origins And Doctrine Of Fascism for a better grasp of the foundations of Italian fascism. Hopefully this won't be confusing, but it's also a decent third positionist foundational book.
>>21330472
Ezra Pound comes to mind.

All real artists who had a perception of Beauty were essentially right-wingers.
Marxist, being equalitarian resentful subhumans, are unable to percieve beauty (nor truth). They can only make piles of systematic lies to destroy the world (theory), which is their only desire. Marxists can subvert, not create, destroy, not build.

>people WILL fall for OP's bait

>>21330575
Marxists tend to not believe this, but their worldview is a rejection of beauty from the simple fact that beauty means yet more hierarchy.
>>21330590
You call it bait, but I call it a good discussion starting point.

>>21330611
>Marxists tend to not believe this, but their worldview is a rejection of beauty from the simple fact that beauty means yet more hierarchy.
Exactly. Egalitarianism a conspiracy of bugs full of resentment against truth and beauty.

>>21330572
>Ezra Pound comes to mind.
Weirdly enough Gertrude Stein too. Hell, she kept praising Petain after the war ended for some reason.

>>21329895
Of all that is written I only love what a person writes in his own blood.

>>21330549
What a brainwashed npc response. Fascist artists were at the cutting edge of modernism. D'Annunzio, Marinetti, Breker, Pound, Drieu la Rochelle, and Wyndham Lewis being some of the most famous and still influential to this day. There's a thriving fascist underground art scene going on right now too. Many of the artists are forced to remain anonymous unfortunately, but you can find them if you look.

>>21329895
Who's a fascist? Knut Hamsun won the nobel prize for literature and was a noted fashy supporter. If you believe the left anything neoclassical is fascist art. Lefties can't go two seconds without calling something fascist normally, from military Hollywood movies to any author who has a binary view on good and evil.
It's only when they want to pretend they didn't spend years saying that, that suddenly there are no fascist artists. Sudden convenient amnesia is very common to leftists.

>>21331354
You can also have Malaparte and Ungaretti, but the fact remains but surprisingly few of the best artists where on the fascist side. And ones Nazism took over the movement shed most of its intellectual support.
I've actually read some of Mussolinis novel, and it's much better than it has any right to be.

>>21331384
I also thought of Pirandello, he's a fascist as well although I can't imagine he knew anything about the movement.
Guy lived in his own little world.

>>21331354
Where?

>>21331354
Where would one find the art of the underground fascists?

>>21329895

>>21329903
>Because, half the time, Fascism doesn't exist.
>>>
Lovely. As Lenny Bruce, the jew heroin addict comedian famously said: "There's only two kinds of people that go to neo NAZI meetings; Jews and FBI agents". In the case of Frank Collins the NAZI leader was the jew.

He ended up being kicked out for kiddy diddling then later turned up as a writer of pseudo magical archaelogy books on ancient Egypt and Mayans with a big dose of Atlantis thrown in.

>>Upon his release from prison, Collin "reinvented himself under the pseudonym of Frank Joseph, a New Age writer and pagan worshiper."[16] His time in the Pontiac Correctional Facility in Illinois had coincided with the period when Russell E. Burrows worked there as a prison guard.[17] He subsequently wrote many books and articles in support of Burrows Cave, an alleged cache of ancient treasure in an unrevealed location, supposedly discovered by Russell Burrows in southern Illinois."[18] In 1987, he had his first New Age book published, The Destruction of Atlantis: Compelling Evidence of the Sudden Fall of the Legendary Civilization.

>>He wrote articles for Fate magazine, and he was also the editor of The Ancient American magazine.[19] The Ancient American focuses on what it says is evidence of ancient, pre-Columbian transoceanic contact between the Old World and North America, with the implication that any complex aspect of indigenous culture must have originated from other continents. The magazine's claims are similar to discredited nineteenth century theories, and are considered dubious or exploitative by scholars.[20]

>>21330572
Top quality post. Very informative. Thanks

>>21331566
>In the case of Frank Collins the NAZI leader was the jew.
>He ended up being kicked out for kiddy diddling
Holy based jew

>>21331575
>Holy based jew

I'm still convinced that the rise of the NAZIs in Germany and their attack on the USSR was really a Trotskyite attempt to retake the revolution back from Stalin through a straight up assault.

The big mistake honest (naive) people make to to refuse to see the degree to which this world is replete with duplicity.

>>21329895
Because fascism is about conforming and doing what your told. And like most con jobs, the people at the top of the pyramid aren't constrained and are free to create art.

The fascism fantasy is a lot like the zombie apocalypse fantasy: everybody thinks they'll be in charge of their own destiny and not just a zombie.

>>21331583
Martin Bormann was a soviet agent.

>>21331590
>Because fascism is about conforming and doing what your told
That's liberalism and the social contract.

>>21331594
>That's liberalism and the social contract.
You use words the way a woman would place scatter cusions. You don't know if they work, you just cover the wholes in your life.

>>21329895
fascism is inherently atheistic.
Fascism didnt exist before atheism.
Fascism is the atheist version of monarchy: being obsessed with being told what to do by a few generic bureaucrats turned into control freaks in order to secure their positions, since fascism being part of atheism and its circlekering over bureaucratic trifles, they have no external supernatural justification for being here, contrary to kings who claimed God put them in charge.
any solution to atheism will not be found with an new -ism from the plethora of -isms the atheists created due to their freedom of opinion and freedom of speech.

>>21329895
>literature
Have you ever read Yeats or Hamsun?

>>21331737
Conforming and doing what your told for the good of society IS liberalism and the social contract you fool.

>>21331525
>>21331540
For new fiction there are publishers like Counter Currents and Antelope Hill. For other arts there's The White Art Collective, really tons of musicians, painters, animators, etc. Many can be found on Telegram, Bitchute, Odysee, and the Fediverse.

>>21331591
ok schizo

There’s plenty

Pound
Heidegger
Marinetti
Benn
Yeats
Mishima
Wyndham Lewis
Chirico
Blanchot

>>21332151
Read russian archives blyat

>>21331583
You are definitely a jew

Nazis don't get art because Goering ate it all

>>21329895
Simply wait a generation for everything from the earlier time to be re-evaluated as being fascist.

>>21331566
Dude looks like a Mel Brooks character. The fuck is wrong with American reaction, it was dead in the womb. This is why people name jews.

>>21329895

>fascist anon scrolling by
>sees this post
hello fascist fren, have a nice day and congratulations on being a fascist

here's a nice rhodesia song for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM_0hRTSiA

>>21333465
>congratulates someone on a mental deficiency
You don’t know they were created as a defense mechanism for liberalism yet, do you?

>>21331772
Any government wants you to conform and do what you are told. No matter what the ideology is. How can you be this naive?
The only two questions you have to ask is: "What's in it for me?" and "Which is the lesser evil?"

>>21329895
>Why is there
Because there either not translated, banned, or censored? you won pic answers your own foolish question.

https://fascio.substack.com/p/the-best-book-recommendations-on

>>21330359
That painting looks Jewish; that manifesto is cringe; Futurism is retarded.

>>21329895
Oh, maybe that’s because they lost the most important wars of all time and was destroyed for it? Read pic related.

>>21333502
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>>21329895
Id label Mishima as a quasi fascist author desu

>>21333493
what about this one, made by olaf willums who was a member of national samling

why doesnt anybody care about the falangists?
jose antonio primo de rivera for example.

>>21333583
I was just reading Evola's assessment of him and the Falange, good shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zn2fpOUHuU

>>21329895
>Hi can I publish this here
>no that's illegal in this country
>"ah okay I'll do it elsewhere then"
>Hi can I publish this here
>"No that doesn't represent the values of this publihing house"
>"Ah okay, I'll do it on my own"
>Okay I'm publishing this on my own
>"Hi! this business doesn't align with the values of our banking services."
>Okay I'm going to do it all myself and for free even
>"The court finds the defendant guilty of violation of the civil rights act."

>>21329895
There are many different definitions and interpretations of the term "fascist," and different people may have different ideas about what constitutes fascist art or literature. However, it is generally true that fascist regimes and movements often seek to suppress or control artistic expression, and that artists who are critical of fascist ideologies may face persecution or censorship.

One reason why there may be relatively little fascist art or literature is that fascist regimes and movements often prioritize ideology and propaganda over artistic expression. In many cases, fascist regimes have sought to control and regulate the arts in order to promote a particular political agenda, and they have often sought to suppress artistic expression that is deemed to be critical or subversive. This can make it difficult for artists who are critical of fascist ideologies to create and distribute their work, and it can limit the range and diversity of artistic expression that is available.

Additionally, the aesthetic and artistic values associated with fascist ideologies are often at odds with many of the principles and values that are associated with art and literature. Fascism is often associated with authoritarianism, nationalism, and militarism, which are not typically seen as conducive to artistic creativity and expression. As a result, fascist regimes and movements may not prioritize or support the arts in the same way that other political systems do, and this can limit the amount and quality of fascist art and literature that is produced.

Overall, the reasons for the relative scarcity of fascist art and literature are complex and varied. Fascism's often hostile attitude towards artistic expression, along with the aesthetic and ideological values associated with fascist ideologies, are among the factors that may contribute to this scarcity.

you know how many people have been radicalized by Antifa chimping out in just a handful of years?

>>21329895
Because they don’t create.

>>21329895
I am not a fascist but there have been plenty of great fascist artists. Ezra Pound, Louis Ferdinand Celine, Pierre Drieu La Rochelle, Knut Hamsun, Lucien Rebatet, Gottfried Benn, Yukio Mishima, the list goes on. Unfortunately /pol/tards are too dumb to read these. the calibre of person involved in fascism has really declined

>>21335633
>thread naming dozens of great fascist artists and detailing the suppression of their works
>they don't create art

Actually, besides Ezra Pound, in Brazil there are at least a few good and repected ones (even by commies) out of the Integralist Movement: Adonias Filho, Gerardo Mello Mourão (whom Ezra Pound considered the best poet ever wtf lol) and Plinio Salgado

>>21335633
this

>>21331743
This desu desu

>>21334408
This too