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books for this feel Anonymous Wed Nov 30 19:38:04 2022 No.21323741 [Reply] [Original]

I realize now that all of our higher faculties are enslaved by the passions, which burble out of somewhere so deep and ancient in the brain that it isn’t even recognizable as oneself. I get depressed during the Winter, and I can feel it starting in my body well before the frontal lobe starts to emit ruminations. Our most vital and primal impulses feel so alien to us that the Christian tradition variously attributes them to demons or to St. Paul’s dualistic “body of death”: the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

But reflecting on it, I really struggle to believe in the human soul. Honest reflection leads me to think that my consciousness consists almost entirely of other people’s fears, desires, hopes, and dreams suffused into my mind through participation in society. “Personality,” wrote Durkheim, “is the individual socialized.” Freud similarly identified the superego as emerging from socialization. And as I reflect on it more, the less it seems that there’s a homunculus, unified self, or incorporeal soul pulling the strings, but rather that the brain is just working to mediate between these constituent parts and conjure an illusion of selfhood.

And yet here I am, perceiving and experiencing all of this. So what am I really? I really don’t understand. Is Buddhism just the ultimate truth about everything? Sorry if this comes across as a schizopost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 19:40:06 2022 No.21323751 you need to get a gf and smash that pussy until you stop thinking

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 19:48:12 2022 No.21323775 >>21323751 You are correct but my point still stands

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 20:17:25 2022 No.21323898 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 20:19:46 2022 No.21323909 >>21323741 dubs and OP dies in his sleep

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 20:20:53 2022 No.21323911 >>21323909 very close

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 20:22:35 2022 No.21323917 >>21323741 shun them further. ask God for strength to do so. you get to see what Paul means. it's a strange feeling to truly understand that you are fighting against your own desires.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 21:03:57 2022 No.21324074 You are everything and nothing. dubs and I die in my sleep.

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Anonymous Wed Nov 30 21:49:26 2022 No.21324276

>>21323917
How can *you* identify with the part of *you* that’s shunning them, though? The superego, the conscience, the higher-level activity taking place in the frontal lobe, whatever you want to call it, is absorbed from your participation in society and similarly at the mercy of the passions. Which one is “le real you” is arbitrary and just depends on who you ask. JJ Rousseau, perturbed by his own sexual impulses, came to believe that they had been implanted in him by the corruptive influence of cosmopolitan society. In the 1960’s, baby boomers seeking to explore their sexual desires decided the opposite: sexual repression had been imposed on them by society, and needed to be scraped away to discover the true self.

These are just different outcomes of the same process in which the brain is mediating between all of these competing impulses to generate an illusion of the unified self. Ego dystonic psychological phenomena are just assumed to be coming from somewhere other than the self, but in reality the distinction is completely arbitrary.

So if *I* am an illusion, then how am I perceiving any of this stuff? That’s what I really don’t understand. Hope this makes sense.

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× I V R I ࿇ N E M O × !!GgBWHLRiayD Wed Nov 30 22:41:15 2022 No.21324531
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>>21323741

You do not convert your impulses through high engagement, therefore, you cannot see your reflection in the prospiration of your spirit, therefore, you naturally tend toward material reductionism, and conceive of the soul as something that is supposed to be cruder than it actually is, and of the self as being something more phantasmal than it actually is.

Verdict: you are spiritually deficient.

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Anonymous Thu Dec 1 00:06:39 2022 No.21325111

>>21324531
>You do not convert your impulses through high engagement

I sublimate my impulses into the arts and athletics. Try again.

>you naturally tend toward material reductionism

I disbelieve the narrative created by the brain about the existence of a unified self, but that doesn’t preclude there being an immaterial dimension to consciousness. I’m able to perceive and observe these things.

>>	Voluntary Fool Thu Dec 1 00:33:59 2022 No.21325284 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM

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× I V R I ࿇ N E M O × !!GgBWHLRiayD Thu Dec 1 00:43:19 2022 No.21325335

>>21325111
>I sublimate my impulses into the arts and athletics.

Evidently, that is not high enough for you.

>I disbelieve the narrative created by the brain about the existence of a unified self

1. You mean: "the mind", not: "the brain".

2. The three partial selves —the unconscious/essential self, the consious self, the imaginal self— unite in the selfconscious self/the person —the soul.

Anyway: remember that the only ones who thrive in Winter are those who plant their seeds in the heart.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 1 02:18:06 2022 No.21325791 >>21325335 >1. You mean: "the mind", not: "the brain". No, I don’t. Look into some of the literature on people with split brains.