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Do you 'infer' or do you 'imply' from an analogy?

>> No.2129244

if it's a logical analogy, yes

>> No.2129255

truman capote's posts imply that he doesn't know much about anything
i infer that james murphy is a slob based on his general slovenliness

>> No.2129262

>>2129255

>implying implications

Basically, can analogies be considered examples of reasoning and therefore logical evidence?

>> No.2129282

help me out here /lit/

>> No.2129294

>>2129262

>implying you can know anything a priori
>implying 'reasoning' transcends empiricism, let alone analogies
>implying i don't hear phillip seymor hoffmans gay voice from Capote every time i read your threads

>> No.2129297

Implying is what the speaker does.

Infering is what the listener does.

>> No.2129302

>>2129297

Ahahahhahahaha thats not what hes axing you nigra

>> No.2129312

>>2129294

>gay voice from Capote every time

Cant.Unhear.

>> No.2129313

>>2129302
The analogy was said to you, ergo you would infer its probable meaning.

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>>2129294

>When we say that a speaker or sentence implies something, we mean that it is conveyed or suggested without being stated outright: When the mayor said that she would not rule out a business tax increase, she implied (not inferred) that some taxes might be raised.

>Inference, on the other hand, is the activity performed by a reader or interpreter in drawing conclusions that are not explicit in what is said: When the mayor said that she would not rule out a tax increase, we inferred that she had been consulting with some new financial advisers, since her old advisers were in favor of tax reductions.

So you can do both. What is implied from the analogy is what is explicitly stated, what is inferred are the conclusions drawn from the reasoning behind the analogy.

>> No.2129320

irl truman speaks with a whisper-like gay lisp. i heard him mumbling to a librarian once.

:D

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>>2129316

mfw this is completely unrelated to what i said

think "epistemic standards", not dictionary.com

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>>2129320

still cutting about with that 90s haircut?

>> No.2129345

>>2129340
;_;

>> No.2129366

>>2129294

I know that observations count as empirical evidence, but can comparisons drawn from analogies count as evidence?

>> No.2129391

>>2129366

no. your evidence has to have some causal connection to the fact which made the phenomenon true.
analogies can't give you more than a general "feel" of the matter.

>> No.2129404

gay

>> No.2129417

>>2129320
>>2129340
lol

>> No.2129420

also, analogies can be arguments. hence "argument by analogy". the strength of the argument depends on the strength of the analogy, the similarities that hold.

I'm not sure where the "feel" is supposed to be in any of this.

shut the fuck up satan

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>>2129420

right on cue.
you never fail to disappoint

also, no one was talking about "arguments" you vagina

>> No.2129872

>>2129420


Arguments =/= evidence

(Unless we're talking about deductive arguments, which isn't the case in this thread)