/lit/ - Literature

The lib. mind is crazy.

Twitter filled with public, praised, loved snuff videos of Russians getting killed (when the same people loving these videos can't even tell them apart from the Ukrainians without a description of the video in text).

But then you suggest, what if you kill a nigger, as a prank, and all hell breaks loose and you get deleted from Twitter as if you committed the a crime against humanity, unspeakable.

I was probably born in the wrong time, I cannot look at this shit and think "hmm, yeah, this makes sense", I just see insanity.

>>21285212
>Write What's On Your Mind
slampig sexo

I missed the love. It hurts but I need to make the peace with this simple fact.

>>21285252
You'll never reach the highs of teenage romance, but you can certainly fall in love later in life as well - especially if you lack previous experience (and heartbreak).

>>21285277
>You'll never reach the highs of teenage romance
That alone is making me to give up on love altogether.

>>21285280
Don't be silly, just socialize with women and let it happen.

>>21285228
Half of them are NSA bots herding the other half, the weakest minds in the world use Twitter. The stronger minds, the ones talking at least some sense, are suppressed. This is how fascism starts up. Deception is how they get their followers. Weak minded fools

>>21285233
Hey. She’s a shortstack, not a slampig

>>21285288
Anon, I'm a wizard. That's not happening and women know that there's something wrong with me.
especially when I do not flirt. ever.

>>21285288
This. 80% of the job is just literally being there, like in actual physically available proximity (work, hobby, class room etc).

I think I've finally snapped. Im going to send a resignation email to my boss. I don't care that I have less than a thousand dolors in the bank. My girlfriend doesnt love me anymore so Im going to leave her to make room for her to find someone she does love. Her happiness being the only thing I've been clinging to when it comes to getting out of bed for this shit show some would call a "noble profession." I will leave this shit hole state (probably for another one if Im honest with myself), get a membership at a gym with lockers and showers, get a storage unit for my books, and live in my car until I either die or find something I can be convinced is worth carrying on for. If I get close to dying I will post the storage unit location so some anon can get some good books on the cheep. Wish me luck lads.

>>21285299
Keep training your social skills, not necessarily flirting. If relationship is what you truly desire, it's only a matter of effort and practice (assuming you aren't physically deformed). It's also possible that you don't actually want to get involved with women and look for excuses to give up. The most important thing is to have clarity in your goals.
>women know that there's something wrong with me
That's just body language and small talk, nothing else. Both can improved significantly by learning some theory and practicing it regularly.
>I'm a wizard
Women after 30 tend to become much more realistic and don't chase casual Chad cock anymore. Most of them will be far more accepting of slight awkardness and inexperience than they'd be at 20. Their time is running out much faster than yours, always keep that in mind.

>>21285326
>The most important thing is to have clarity in your goals.
Also this. Do not get confused.

Bros I find so much genuine joy in synthesizing "nonsense". Deliberately putting together seemingly absurd combinations of words that still have a very solid meaning in head and delivering them to strangers has been a fascinating experience. A lot of people legitimately get mad about nonsense! They hurl insults and threats at you just because you're being odd ; I do make sure not to be obnoxious or annoying about it by looking for a good inoffensive opening, but man do some guys hate it kek. Strangely enough they don't shut it down, as in they don't find the right sentence to kill my obviously fragile ego and send me packing, despite it being such an easy target to hit. But as much as I relish the nuclear heat, it's finding the people that play along or try to figure out the puzzle that is even more rewarding. I have been blessed enough to make good friends through this.
Sometimes I splash a bunch of words in front of me and try to assemble some sort of story out of them. Or a joke, usually. I probably would have gone insane, succumbed to suicide in my early adulthood if I hadn't found this love for words and symbols. I'm not very proficient mathematically, but I also enjoy finding absurdity in geometric shapes. Still, my preferences in the art that I interact with tend to lean more towards the down to earth, realism focused, non-comedic than the "quirky". You're more likely to catch watching a Costa-Gavras film than a Wes Anderson oddfest.
When I talk with the people that know me, friends and family and workmates and such, I rarely ever indulge in nonsense, mostly because that part of my mind gets shut down and I feel incapable of producing anything resembling those escapades. Maybe it's due to a sort of "reaction" driven passive personality that is more likely to adapt to its environment than assert its preferences over those who have "authority" over it, for lack of a better term.
Sorry for going on and on about myself, just wanted to share this deep love for word association. I understand that this might all be perceived as a "th3 penguin of d00m" type of situation, but based on people's general reactions and my gut feeling in general, it feels much more different than that. If any anons have a love relationship with words etc, i'd really to hear your experiences with this. This shit can be soothing to the soul.

>>21285326
>don't chase casual Chad cock anymore
Why bother being some random experience?

>>21285354
Nobody says you'll be random, and since we can never fully understand and know each other, experiencing each other is the only reliable form of communication )

>>21285349
"This post was copy-pasted from GPT-3"

>>21285370
I did get confused for a bot before

>>21285361
I dont know anon, I dont know anything. Why I wasnt grated the love in the past 30 years when others were? I'll never know nor anyone give the real answer. There's the deep seated sensitive feel of an injustice like a nerve of tooth. Thanks for trying anon.

I don't love her but I want her to love me

>>21285392
Narcissism. Get over yourself. Learn to love others.

>>21285387
This is fundamentally a non-productive way of looking at things. World is an angry, evil, cold, hostile place, it owes you nothing. You'll die and nobody will remember you. It is what it is.

I personally have the exact opposite view to yours. I keep thinking: "what right did I have a to be an incel neet for 10 years from 18 to 28, potentially forcing my future wife to not find love and children", like I probably made a woman wait for years by being a recluse myself like that. Counter-factual morality, not a light thing. Really warped my brain.

>>21285396
How do I even start with that? I want to be loved in the way I love others, and that seems pretty impossible from past experiences. My ex, the one my previous post is directed to, just used me to get over her own ex. I gave her my heart and expected the same in return. Now I don't love her anymore, but I wish she still loved me for the sake of me feeeling loved.

>>21285410
Find self respect and raise your self esteem by working on what you love. That's what work is supposed to be, giving. Then, hopefully, you would be able to give love to a person. Good luck.

>>21285403
>"what right did I have a to be an incel neet for 10 years from 18 to 28, potentially forcing my future wife to not find love and children",

I mean that, I probably robbed someone from love by being so selfish as I was, a shutin neet incel etc. Or you can just think about friends I missed when I pulled off the 10 year cocoon mode. There's probably someone out there whom would have liked to hangout with me, but I denied them by being stupidly selfish for no reason whatsoever. This perception really did something to my brain. It was like looking myself outside-in and seeing what I was, a sick and very selfish person for conmitting such an act.

There's probably a word or concept that describes this. I call it counter-factual morality in lieu of a better one. I think it really hit me when I thought what I would say to my new born baby: "I only wish we met when I was younger"

>>21285326
>Women after 30 tend to become much more realistic and don't chase casual Chad cock anymore.
Imagine settling with a loose cumrag who's hit the wall. Men like this should be euthanized. Hire a hooker when you need "love" and never look back, it's the same shit anyway except they're 20 and not 30 and you don't need to commit.

>>21285403
>World is an angry, evil, cold, hostile place, it owes you nothing. You'll die and nobody will remember you. It is what it is.
I just cannot refute this cold reality fact. Every single tear of hope just evaporates instantly.

>>21285462
Here's the good news: you don't owe anything to the world either.

>>21285462
Let's off ourselves together, fren!

I think I'd have a lot clearer picture of what to do next if I hadn't already spent the last 4 years working in academia but had rather done something else.

>>21285462
I don't mean it as an edgy thing or a thing to be refuted. I just personally cannot understand the world view where the world would owe me a thing just because I'm a result of a middling orgasm on a Christmas eve or something.

If you demand something from the world, you have to take it by will, like the Khan when he killed millions of people.

>>21285463
It doesnt set me free.
>>21285464
Soon anon, soon.
unironically

>>21285479
If you really wanted to kys, you would put your will to use and just fucking do it. My friend took knives when he was like fucking 14 because a "girlfriend" left him and stuck the knives into his neck, messy fucking suicide but got the job done. Amazing strength of will, can you imagine, 14 and the fucking guy shoves knives into his neck.

As for me, the idea of suicide and thinking "what if" helped carry me over some bad nights. It was always an affirmation more than anything, that I am in control, I am here out of my own volition currently, and I can just check out. Now, a very selfish thought, but it carried me over the bad nights.

>>21285498
Not the quoted, but I relate to you. I wish I had the constitution for suicide. It seems like there's still a bit of hope inside of me - or I'm just a faggot.

>>21285507
Well, I don't really wish I had the constitution for suicide and I never had - or I would have done it. And it is usually good if you can't override your self-preservation instinct deep down in your lizard brain.
I am also a completely hopeless hopeful romantic (I cover over it with heavy misanthropy and nihilism so people don't catch up to it).

>>21285498
I've always seen myself a guy who could easily kill myself over failed relationships. What if my wizardhood is the only thing that keeps me alive?

>>21285498
People try to hold back because killing yourself leaves a permanent mark of shame on your family. We're not in Asia you fucking slimy tranny. Sadistic faggots like you is why America deserves public shooters.

If I rely on my gut feeling to orient myself, does it become possible for my stomach to steal my mental energy? Am I retarded?

>>21285277
teenage romance happened three times in my life, and every single one of them fucked up my ability to intimately love someone. fuck was wrong with me that i was dating clinically insane bitches. i was a retard, thats why i suppose. maybe i still am one.

i know plenty of guys and girls who had similair experiences. i know it is an huge and important thing while growing up, but it often comes with huge amounts of pain, sometimes trauma even

>>21285551
*a huge thing, obviously. baka. my english got really bad over the years huh

>>21285549
"Anon uncovers why a woman can steal a man's heart via cooking and food"

You've heard of the matching temperature of thyroid theory of relationship, that is the gut microbiome theory

>>21285551
>>21285554
No doubt about that, I had two short-term gfs and a long-term one I lost my virginity to. The latter was the most intense experience of my life, a year of absolute ecstasy of love and nonstop teenage fucking, then another year of manipulation, accusations, lying, cheating, mutual emotonial abuse. Overall I'm definitely glad it happened, but it left a scar that won't ever disappear.

>>21285569
>The latter was the most intense experience of my life, a year of absolute ecstasy of love and nonstop teenage fucking

>>21285581
in love with this pic, lmfao. i can vividly remember the confusion while being drunk as a mf when a randomly met guy and girl sitting next to me around 2am at a party making out.

thank you for the post anon, it gave me a nice grim on my face

>>21285581
>then another year of manipulation, accusations, lying, cheating, mutual emotonial abuse
It all comes at a price

>>21285592
*started making out, obviously

>>21285593
Is it better to love and get hurt or never been in love in the first place?

>>21285598
I like to think so, not that I have a choice now.

>>21285605 (Me)
>I like to think so
*That it's better to love and lose

>>21285605
>>21285609
I see. That makes sense.

>>21285619
I don't think I'll ever fall in love again at this point and it's been a long while since high school. If you're the wizard Anon, all the magic you've missed out on can still happen to you. Appreciate what you have, in this case it's no emotional baggage from failed relationships.

Are there any examples of successful businessmen, entrepreneurs, industrialists, etc. who also had success with literature?

>>21285632
Yes, I'm the wizard anon. The one thing (of many) that's stopping me is the complete lack of experience. Even if I get with women, what then? It's like being a complete naive idiot among the people who know the real world. I'd be the easiest prey to manipulate on. I have no point of reference besides gut feeling.

>>21285651
Rimbaud. However his financial success did come after abandoning literature.

>>21285277
>You'll never reach the highs of teenage romance
People who say shit like this obviously didn't have a teen romance. Yeah you're passionate but you're also completely fucking stupid. Lots of strife for no reason. My adult relationships have all been better.

>>21285653
>I'd be the easiest prey to manipulate on
This is the only real problem you might have. Everything else either comes naturally once you're dating, or you simply won't click with the woman and move on - don't blame yourself if that happens. Manipulation on the other hand is genuine danger because vast majority women won't hesitate to dissimulate or gaslight if they can extract any resource from you, even if it's just attention. They're ruthless social predators. Don't expect the first relationship to work out, expect to get hurt, and bail out as soon as you observe any foul play on her part. It sucks, but it's one of the fundamental aspects of Human Experience™.

I'm gonna go use a miter to jerry-rig a shim jamb strap hinge quarter-round soffit two-by-six dowel cherry-picker flim-flam.

>>21285670
Stupidity, hormones and inexperience are exactly what makes teenage romances so intense and unforgettable. Mature and mutually beneficial relationships are much easier now, sex lasts longer and the technique is superior, but I couldn't possibly replicate the fire I had for my 16 yo gf as a retarded horny teen.

>>21285673
It already hurts to know.

im literally in love with a schizo girl

she rejected me twice

books for this feel ?

>>21285664
I'm more interested in people who were businessmen first and then found success in literature.

Have you ever looked at a beautiful creature and couldn't believe that it was real? That's how I felt when I saw a red panda.

>>21285228
If you can think rationally, you will eventually come to the conclusion that nearly everyone else is crazy.
Not crazy in the "they are evil" sense, for they are not, but crazy in the "they are completely arbitrary and illogical" sense, because they are.
They make the laws, they rule the world, and you are subject to their rule. This is why the majority of mathematicians, physicists, logicians, programmers, formalist poets, Ancient Greek readers, harpsichordists etc. tend to either isolate themselves from the world (often in a big city), like Pessoa and Grygory Perelman, or else frequent solely the company of those who are similar to them in terms of sensibility and mindset, which is where Plato's academy, research departments, French salons and cafés, English clubs, and obscure internet forums come from.

>>21285690
Eh for me that passion on its own is not worth much

>>21285228
Also, it's not the "lib. mind", it's the average person's mind. It just so happens that in Twitter the average person is a lib. If you went to a Mormon forum, you'd feel a similar disgust.

The right-left distinction of politics in it's modern form of degrees of state interventionism is completely outdated and a poison to the mind of any would be dissident. The state and corporations are the same entity, run by the same people. The recent FTX scandal should be proof enough that this nominally incestuous relationship is the normal order of things in our oligarchy.

Modern Marxist and NRX have more in common with each other than they are ready to admit because of this fiction that the State and the Corporations are different, when really they are complaining about the same people. All that stands in the way of this realization that managerialism is their true common enemy is the cultivated hatred of previous third way movements who sought, or still seek to pin the commonality on race, when it is at best a proxy for a multiethnic ruling class of managers.

>>21285693
Go for it, Anon. You can seethe and whine with the rest of us in /wwoym/ if you get cucked and dumped, but at least you won't have any regrets thirty years down the line once you're old and impotent.

I wish someone had told me how much where you go to university matters, not necessarily financially, but socially.

>>21285752
This is very different depending on culture and country. But yeah anon, prestige is prestige.

A lot of my regrets have to do with the jobs I've had. I find my work history unremarkable at best and embarrassing at worst.

>>21285702
you have to be soulless to be successful financially. or at least devoid of a sense of aesthetics. this is life, my friend, you cant have it all

>>21285770
What jobs embarrass you? Sometimes I will feel a bit of judgement from people when I say that I was a janitor and a dog walker, but I try to recognize this as me judging myself or if it's really obvious that they do think less of me, I just say fuck em and get on with my life

>>21285651
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nescio

>>21285718
Not him but yeah I think normalfags are like animals. Their mental process is all a long string of disconnected cope, say they have been told to care about sustainability except it's about buying disposable products that are "biodegradable" and they want to care about what they're buying but at the same time they don't read the label to see what they're buying and the label says that you can't compost the product so it might as well be a plastic chinkshit thing, oh but it's not like they care about compost or sorting out the trash, also they have kids and complain that the world is getting more and more polluted and there's chemical shit everywhere but they don't give a shit about nature, also their kids should love nature and animals because it's something the kids must do but not too much because animals are too eat, actually nature is shit and it would be better if none of it existed and it was just houses and factories making plastic shit but while she's thinking about this she says good Timmy draw the bee it's a cute bee he loves to draw bees I need to get him to stop drawing or he'll want to take it seriously also bees are dangerous deadly monsters and I want him to go to college and become an engineer, engineers make money, is it engineers now? I want Timmy to be the job that is the future. Also look at the cartoons he's watching, there are boys kissing because the company states he wants kids to become gay, what do you mean boycott the channel? I don't want my kid to become a weird kid. If he becomes gay that's OK I don't care I mean I would hate it but I would accept it because in the end there are so many right now, he's my son so even if I don't do anything he will get a nice girl and he'll give me nephews and I'll get taken care of when I am old, I am very important because I have a vagina, money is important I wish I made more money Timmy will give me money Timmy is an investment I am sending Timmy to church even if I don't believe in God because people in this country still do it so it would be weird if I didn't. I don't want people to think bad things about me.
And so on.

>>21285774
I don't know if that's true.

>>21285817
Not so much the job itself, but how I did it, how I left it. I think nowadays sort of like really lame office jobs look worse than jobs like janitor or dog walker as well.

>35 year old me, athletic and kinda charming (border dark triad personality)
>My girl of 6 years lets me fuck around
>On a solo trip back home try to hook up with a 21 yo I had hooked up the year before
>She left me on read
>We ran into each other on one of my last days there and had to be around the same place
>Mostly ignore her but made some small talk
>Thought everything was at least friendly
>Try to be too cool and just say good bye in a warm way
>"See ya later" (could have sounded like a question, but I don't know)
>"You want to meet up later?"
>"See ya later"
>"oh ok, see ya"
>"Hope everything goes well" (this was said in another language, not sure I slurred my words but I'm pretty sure I didn't)
>"What?"
>"Hope everything goes well"
>"You wish things don't go well" (in the language spoken it could have sounded like that"
>Turn around and look annoyed, repeat everything slowly
>As I finish talking, I stare at her.
>She looks quickly and then looks down again
>Come back home
>My girl is comforting me for feeling rejected and telling me to look through dating apps
>Can't find anything

We're taking dance lessons in a couple weeks and then we're taking some shibari courses early next year. But I still can't get over being left on read. I'm so fucking crazy. Still trying to find someone to fuck. I can't stop thinking about the 21 year old. At one point when we were together she said "don't have anything better to do" then laughed really loudly. Was she making fun of me or just trying to banter? Before we started fucking last year, she had told me that she would only make fun of me because of our age difference. But something changed. She was stand offish. For sure she belongs to the streets, as the youth say. She's absolutely gorgeous and filthy minded.

I don't know where to find anything like that around me. I can't stop thinking about it.

>>21285880
He's right, the only way to advance in modern society in any way is to be utterly and completely prostituted. It is so important to be a fully compliant little whore that it is more valuable than your skills.

>>21285904
I'm sure a lot of that happens, and history is filled with examples of robber barons who were extremely wealthy but otherwise despicable people, but there are also a few who project some sense of dignity and respect. There's something admirable about a man who plays to win and project some degree of noble bearing, even if the game isn't that noble.

>>21285887
based 21 year old girl for immediately catching on to you being a piece of shit

>>21285887
You are ill

>>21285949
I'm going bang her again

>>21285212
Why do I care so much about the slightest criticism or pressure at work? Not even criticism, just someone passive-aggressively reminding me of an upcoming deadline (which I am on track for, so it’s not even an issue), and for some reason I want to shoot myself. I feel physically sick with guilt over potentially not working quite as fast some random rich asshole wants me to work. That’s wild. Why do I care so much what my boss thinks?

Any other /VV/ fags here? Value Village has legitimately been an indispensable resource for me for finding books and I could never do without it.

>>21286013
this is more of a vvv venlo board

With every coming day my eyes have become more and more clear to the reality of the world. I am but flesh, bending and probing an inert, unfeeling world. I realize that there is no inherent "meaning" in the world other than that produced by the unknowable machinations of my consciousness: it is simultaneously nothing and insignificant yet infinite and all encompassing, impossible to find in the outside world as it is produced within myself. My goal is to align myself with my inner compass and seek a straight path through the void to infinity. Right now, my inner yearning is to seek to connect with other people, to love and suffer. Once I have that I will pursue my artistic pursuits to their finality, and once I am done with that I may starve myself in a monastery.

Anyway anyone have any tips on how to make friends?

I'm reconnecting with my inner teenage boy and it's incredibly liberating
>>21286327
touch grass fag

>>21286358
you weren't kidding about the reconnecting with your inner teenage boy part

im not religious but I went to a Russian orthodox funeral today and it was quite moving.
the church was pretty and I enjoyed the chants.
anyways afterwards I drank a bunch of vodka and drove home through the countryside

>>21285887
What the fuck am I reading

I need to tilt my head when browsing books lined up on a shelf. Am I retarded?

>>21285233
I love women, but they don't love me back.

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What should I read next?
My options are
>Tristam Shandy
>Oliver Twister
>The crossing

>>21286619
isn't tristram shandy like 10 volumes or something? why would you read that, because of some dude memeing it on /lit/?

>>21286619
oliver twist sucks

>>21286619
any of these are better than reading 4chan posts every day

>>21285212
are there any sci-fi stories as unapologetically racist as Chinese ones?

what I mean by this, is that whenever you read Chinese science fiction novels, you come to recognize a pattern: every antagonist or otherwise morally reprehensible character will always have a non-Chinese name, and their race will not be Chinese. In fact, it will be up to the glorious Han Chinese main protagonist to stop their treasonous plot against humanity(the Chinese).

Is there anything similar to this in the West?

>have to grade papers
>want to shitpost on 4chan
lit for this feel?

>>21286358
God bless you, faggot

I wish I had health insurance so I could see a smarter therapist.

>>21285212
Society places far too much weight on romantic relationships; I don't want that.

My ideal world is a tight-knit community of friends and family. After work my days would be spent in the company of like-minded individuals, and we would grow and adapt within a mutually beneficial social framework.

Our groups would resemble the size hunter-gatherer tribes of old, because biologically what really has changed? Close-knit bands of 50-100 people would live out their lives in the company of people who care for them. Their familiarity would span generations, without arbitrary nuclear cores superseding everything else.

Friends. I want platonic friends to be the bedrock of my social strata. I want to know people from different generations; I've never had a good talk with an elder outside of my family, and currently I don't know how I would fix that.

The friends that I do have are pairing up and leaving the world behind. They form their lives in systems of coupled-parts, and I don't think there's room for me in that. Is my relationship with others lesser, just because I don't foresee sex or romance in it? Is there no form of bond that can be formed without exchanging bodily fluids?

-T. a frustrated aro-ace

>>21286771
>Is my relationship with others lesser, just because I don't foresee sex or romance in it?
Yes.
>Is there no form of bond that can be formed without exchanging bodily fluids?
Only with members of the same sex.

>>21286776
It's just depressing. I've kept up close friendships for more than a decade, but that's superseded when someone comes along who's down to fuck. When push comes to shove horniness always seems to win

>>21286808
Have you tried not being a flaming faggot

is paul allen the only entrepreneur in history who was successful but didn't fuck? seems like every other successful businessmen in the last 100 years was a horndog who got it in at will. uptight protestants from like 200 years ago don't count.

>Light of my life, fire of my loins.
>(L)ight (o)f my (li)fe.
Bravo, Nabokov.

I finally found the hentai I was looking for locked behind a paywall (fanbox) and now, I'm left with an unsatisfied feeling.

>>21286619
If you're up for some ye old shit posts then go for tristam.

I'm reading Treasure Island and it's quite comfy and kino if a bit indecipherable in places due to the anachronistic language. I like it though. I've been wanting to read it for a long time.

>>21285228
violence against the out group is chemically rewarded

>>21285726
absolutely agree with this, one only needs a cursory familiarity with the machinations of government to readily observe just how intimately entwined with private interests it really is and how thin the pretence of legitimacy really is.

I'm feeling very down on myself for a bunch of reasons.

>>21285233
>>21285228
>>21285291
spot on

>>21287004
What kind of reasons?

>>21285396
>>21285233
No

>>21285349
le rhizome

Gonna an hero in a few days, ama

>>21287090
How about you listen to some Bun B? His voice is awesome

>>21285212
I need to get her out my mind

>>21287090
ur an pussy

>>21287090
Where?

I can't figure out what God expects of me. Why are we left to ourselves? For how long will this go on?

>>21285212
She doesn't even give me the read receipts in chat.

It is beyond over.

>>21287152
Dude don't worry about that. That's good. If anything. If you're talking about iMessage and her just having read receipts off, rather than her generally not seeing your messages. Chill. You got this, you can do it. We were all virgins once (except for some very sad cases).

Pre-requisites to reading Aquinas?

Listening to the Socratics great courses on audible, then want to dive into the dialogues and re-read the Republic (got filtered by jumping into it too quick). Idk about Aristotle.

Read Confessions, loved it, will probably re-read along with City of God.

Anything else I am missing before diving into Summa Theologica? I'm just reading modern apologetics by CS Lewis and Chesterton, but want more foundational Christian texts outside of the Bible.

>>21287156
Hmm.

>>21287097
He's not bad
>>21287121
right
>>21287124
secret

well I was fine this morning but was suddenly hit with chills, then a dreamy drowsiness and a feeling like i weigh a tonne of bricks and now my back aches. I habe decided that I am literally dying, or just got the flu going around. or covid. either way, good luck to everyone

i want to be a singer songwriter and an indie filmmaker and a top melee player but i don't think i'll ever be any of those things and i'll probably lead a dull life a mediocrity

>>21287191
Damn, when random people say shit like this, with me lacking much context (except that the triad aint a great one),it makes me feel like im also doomed to mediocrity and we’re all churned out into sausage like the rest

>>21287158
if you want, Philo of Alexander and some Maimonides (just look in the norton anthology of theory, the maimonides selection is good)
but you dont have to. philo of alexander is pretty instrumental in the ancient world, but if you've read augustine then you're probably fine

>>21285212
So being engaged in anything could be reduced as an individual media event???? Really??? I'm never truly reacting to information but instead it's passive marketing dynamics

>>21285212
I always embarrass myself by oversharing.
Also I need to stop drinking coffee but i love it so much even though it makes it so i cant sleep and i become super neurotic

>>21287191
nigga just try it. record with your shitty phone and own that aesthetic. START THAT SHIT. its better than wasting away and whining on here, is it not?

>>21287201
what's wrong with the triad?

>>21287224
this sounds dumb, but get a journal
when you feel stupid for oversharing, write what it was that you overshared
as time goes on, maybe you'll figure out what it is that tends to get you to overshare, i.e. anxiety, stress, depression, etc. If you manage to write it down as it comes up, you can settle the part of your mind that wants to share it with others

>>21287227
i don't know how to get people to be in my movie

Do crooked teeth really affect saliva build up and breathing control all that much? I've recently felt things getting tighter around my palate, to where my tongue feels more uncomfortable up there than it ever did, and after that I caught myself accidentally spitting while talking a couple of times which made me be more careful with my enunciation as i have a pretty quick cadence of speech, which also rarely ever happened before. I really didn't want to get braces because of how much it's going to cost me (we have no dental insurance around these parts of the world) and how long the process typically lasts, but I might not have another choice if things keep deteriorating. Looks wise they aren't too crooked, and I've even been told that they added a certain charm, so refusing to get them was fine on an aesthetic standpoint. But I guess crooked teeth are much more than a mere cosmetic issue.

>>21287224
Oversharing is really annoying because it is so self-indulgent. This girl keeps telling me how she keeps crying when I have never even told her anything similar and keep it professional. Get a husband or something and share it to him, fuck.

Can’t keep going on like this. It’s been the worse year of my life. Each passing year becomes the worse one. Can’t really push through much longer. Nothing has been working for so long now. Don’t really care about myself anymore.

>>21287243
you could begin by experimenting on your own, splicing together your own footage and archival stuff that interests you from internet. crafting a narrative out of pure editing is a very fascinating albeit tiring process, that's some dziga vertov type of innovation. you would be sharpening your skills. limits are creatively enticing. you could also make a video diary sort of film, think jonas mekas and pierre clementi, use your entourage, friends, family, in a laid back environment. if you do have nice enough friends, there's a very good chance that they wouldn't rebuff the light of the camera being pointed at them. you could challenge your comfort zone by initiating conversations with strangers, especially during or after events, and see how that goes for you. chris goddamned marker made a lauded masterpiece out of a bunch of still photographs and clips of him and his friends shooting the shit about people (si j'avais quatre dromadaires). all the cult filmmaker you could think of, john waters ; jean pierre jeunet; kenneth anger ; shinya tsukamoto, started out by filming their entourage. nothing stopping you from doing that other than your own deepest fears. you won't know if you'll ever get a chance at trying things out ever again, there is a possibility that you could literally slip in the shower and get crippled next week. get over the neurotic bullshit and try, test yourself. there is so much that you could do. be real.

I feel like if I spent 10 minutes on this girls phone, I would be able to kill all the hope I have of making it work.

>>21287087
please elaborate

>>21287090
I think people should ask some better qs

>>21287090
Why?

>>21287191
I have a similar sentiment. There's so many things I want to be as well: a composer, an author, a poet, a game developer, and yet I feel like I lack the necessary creative drive to make anything good. Even if I had all the time in the world to master each of those arts I would never make anything worthwhile.

>>21287261
I don't irl. Irl im incredibly reserved. It's on here i overshare. And occasionally when i have coffee in the morning

>>21287334
Why be concerned about oversharing on here?

>>21287319
Really I'm just sick of playing the game. Wins feel hollow, losses feel worse. Also it's not like I haven't tried, I've just realised that it isn't worth it and the idea of keeping playing makes me feel nauseous.

>>21287334
Well this is just the toilet wall, who cares about this. I meant IRL people myself.

>>21287339
Can't argue with that. Sounds like you're pretty set on killing yourself. I wish it's quick and painless for you.

These threads are containment for the /r9k/ types, but containment never works because it simply fosters the community allowing it to fester grow. These people are here out of a superficial perceived self-interest in "literature" and "philosophy" when in all actuality they are no better than again, /r9k/ types who go onto anonymous imageboards to confess what they are too cowardly to express in the real world where their actions are remembered. It's cheap and self-serving, the anonymity saves us from the commitment and vulnerability of real relationships where you have a face and reputation, with the cost of preventing those real relationships from actually forming. Remember this: Skin in the game. Suffering is the form God's mercy takes on this earth. Get off this board and find a place where you can show who you truly are, in its bare, naked realness, and build something real.

>>21287282
But do you really want to kill all the hope that you have in your heart? You have to be kind of stone cold to do that. To practice pragmatic, ultra hard, nihilism. Not many people can do it. There's always some hope, somewhere, buried in them.

>>21287352
>These threads are containment for the /r9k/ types, but containment never works because it simply fosters the community allowing it to fester grow. These people are here out of a superficial perceived self-interest in "literature" and "philosophy" when in all actuality they are no better than again, /r9k/ types who go onto anonymous imageboards to confess what they are too cowardly to express in the real world where their actions are remembered.
Based and true
>It's cheap and self-serving, the anonymity saves us from the commitment and vulnerability of real relationships where you have a face and reputation, with the cost of preventing those real relationships from actually forming. Remember this: Skin in the game. Suffering is the form God's mercy takes on this earth. Get off this board and find a place where you can show who you truly are, in its bare, naked realness, and build something real.
Cringe.

It makes me feel sick whenever I think about those final words. I can’t stop wishing that you would take it all back and say that you didn’t really mean it. It will not happen.

>>21287322
Man i make some genuinely terrible shit (shorts and writing prose & poems) but i still delude myself into thinking i could be the very best even for just one second if i make things tighter the next time. This gets accentuated whenever i encounter somebody who is considered good irl, i want to be competitive and smoke those guys, make them come across as parodies of art. I understand that it's not how you have to interact with art, i don't see it as this quantifiable thing ; it's just gut feeling, you get it.
It is 100% unwarranted. It has next to no basis in reality. It is arrogance. But it keeps me going.

>>21287358
Your cheap slang is meaningless. You provide no explanation I can work with, and after all, random social shaming is useless on the internet considering that you could be a random crackhead using the wifi at mcdonalds. You're a typical coward.

>>21287352
i'm just here to practice

>>21287351
Thanks lad. Hope you have a happy life.

>>21287358
You are additionally a great example of the cowards that frequent this site, as you not only contribute no unique idea that expresses yourself and would make yourself vulnerable, you also hide behind slang terms that have social weight. You fall into the herd because you would be nothing by yourself.

.>>21287380
This is fair, but I wouldn't consider this an ideal simulation of socializing. You don't have to deal with reputation, consequences of your actions, people remembering you for what you said. It's like a big mask party. You can just close the tab if you embarrass yourself and never learn a lesson. Theres plenty of forums out there where you can form alias accounts and make friends that last over time and get real practice, which is what i need to do. making friends is probably the only way to find out if youre actually a really insufferable person

>>21287372
Alright.
I agree that these threads are not a positive for the board. I myself am guilty of dumping /r9k/-tier depressed ramblings onto these threads myself, usually when I'm too lazy to find my pen so I can write it all in my diary desu instead. I think your post really should've ended after those first few sentences. You really hit the nail on the head and actually called out repetitive ruminators. Hence why I called it based.
The second half just comes off as any other generic mootivator/self-improovment shit. It's cringe. No one posts here to escape from the real world. They post here to get some relief for their real world problems. People in here aren't avoiding real relationships because they aren't open enough in the real world or whatever. Rather, I feel that we all have hurt our real world relationships by being too open. There's a certain level of callousness everyone, but especially young men, are expected to hold up in social interactions, no matter how private they may be. These threads are some of the most sincere and vulnerable on this entire website. It's a misunderstanding of what actually drives people to post in these threads. If I could be this honest to everyone I know in the real world I could. But I have had friends leave me because I'm "too real". Other people are the ones scared of connections, not me.

>>21287395
I initially wanted to type out a full response to your posted but simply went with "based" and "cringe" for the sake of brevity. I agreed with the first half, disagreed with the second half. It was that simple.

>>21285212
j. peterstein

>>21287414
Find another site to sully, you evil coward.

>>21287395
See I'm blessed enough to have very good friends in real life, some of whom used to frequent this website. I practice writing (ESL) and venturing out of conversational comfort zones (for both myself and what i try to gather from the anon I'm talking to). I do the same with chatrooms. It's like a baby's challenge, as I admit to being more of a coward in my day to day interactions, but I've noticed some improvements. Besides, this grand old masked ball in the digihalls has a very unique appeal that isn't so damaging if you're fortunate to be doing okay socially. Outside of these particular threads, I love a specific niche of art that I only get to talk about at length and have fun exchanges with on this website. Do you really not think you could 'maximize' the 4chan experience to be fruitful at all? Even if you're just lurking this particular thread, you're getting a glimpse at people being vulnerable and somewhat sincere ; compared to /r9k/'s well established groups and rules and love for what I call the dead cycle of internetspeak, this is like a confession booth ; and I find this to be genuinely lovely. I feel things from these threads in my heart, sometimes carrying particular posts with me throughout the day's tribulations. It's not so bad, brother.

I cant sleep without waking up a several times per night. Nor valerian root, nor alcohol helps.

>>21287447
Do you take melatonin? I used to take melatonin because I thought it would help me sleep better, but it doesn't, instead it just made me fall asleep sooner but I would wake up several times at night instead. So if you use that supplement you should try sleeping without it for a couple of weeks.

>>21287401
Thanks for taking the time on your reply first of all. My thoughts on this subject aren't fully formed and may ramble at times, as I am currently trying to figure this out myself.
I disagree when you say we cannot be honest with others in the real world. My mistake was seeking validation from those who would never give it, growing up, and scorning those who seemed to truly want my attention. My thoughts on that are that I assumed those people to be "losers" because they valued my attention, all due to my tremendous insecurity.
I believe honest relationships must be sought out. Having friends who will not stay by you when you express real vulnerability, when you need help, is as bad as being alone, and I am sorry you've experienced that. I don't expect living this way to produce a large number of friends who I can share my deepest self with, I always expect that number to be low. And for me personally, my own happiness depends on me living in alignment with what I value, and that means saying and appearing as I really am when I can. It just so happens that this is hard and at times painful, but so far its always worth it. Maybe I am still too young, but I've had my falls. It has certainly improved my relationship with my father, who I can finally say I do in fact love, considering how poor my relationship was with him growing up.

>>21287423
Yeah I will confess that I am hard on myself on trying to make friends and learn to socialize, as I am a late bloomer, which comes out in these very judgemental spiels on this website from time to time. I shouldn't dismiss it. You are right, these threads do produce quite amazing things. Beautiful things.
But I yearn to be amongst people like me who can be actual parts of my life, and no matter how wonderful a time I have here, I can never take these people with me when I leave. Though, this is probably a me problem. I can just post on sites where I have a name. I'm just struggling right now with figuring that out, and sometimes take that out when I see people here who I feel have given up completely.
You write great English by the way.

>>21287451
I did took melatonin. All it did was like you said - get asleep sooner but still woke up several times at night. Im really out of options.

>>21287480
See that? This is beautiful and sincere. We dropped the pretenses and standoffish attitudes, and everything has become crystal clear. You were being "aggressive" with good intentions. I like to think that we all realize the possibility of catching certain malignant parasites out of this place, as we all admit that it's a cesspool and have seen a fair share of despicable posts full of smugness, so naturally we're afraid of stooping low or worse, remaining stagnant in these lower realms, so to speak.
I wish you the best fortune that life could offer you, man. You spoke about God's mercy, and I hope that you will always find it within your reach. There's a beautiful sunrise over here that I'd like to share a photograph of, but unfortunately the ip range ban prevents it from being posted lel.
And thank you for your compliment, it is much appreciated.
Have a very good day, lads.

I'm 28 and I want to get into MMA with 0 prior fighting experience, but I also don't want to get brain damage and my nose is too beautiful to ruin. What do?

>>21287512
learn how to wrestle first. make that into your main focus, then you'd be in a better position to judge if this is worth continuing or not.

>>21285228
If you said that America was doing good when they put all the Japanese residents in labor camp these guys would jump at your throat but at the same time they unironically call for deporting Russians because they're the bad guys right now. It's pretty insane how readily these people support the things they claim to loathe, wholesale and without thought. The majority of people are like literal fucking cows.

>>21287495
Thank you for your post, it's a breath of fresh air to experience such goodness on this site. Even if this moment will only ever exist here, I will remember it.

>>21287512
>>21287519
This and don't get embarrassed if you get hard sometimes. It happens to everybody.

>>21287352
>These threads are containment for the /r9k/ types, but containment never works because it simply fosters the community allowing it to fester grow. These people are here out of a superficial perceived self-interest in "literature" and "philosophy" when in all actuality they are no better than again, /r9k/ types who go onto anonymous imageboards to confess what they are too cowardly to express in the real world where their actions are remembered. It's cheap and self-serving, the anonymity saves us from the commitment and vulnerability of real relationships where you have a face and reputation, with the cost of preventing those real relationships from actually forming. Remember this: Skin in the game. Suffering is the form God's mercy takes on this earth. Get off this board and find a place where you can show who you truly are, in its bare, naked realness, and build something real.

It is the hour between night and dawn. My writing tonight is synchronized to WPFW89.3 radio's African chants and traditional oral rigmaroles. Last week, I burned a bridge with a friend whose sister was six years younger, and a most pristine lass to eye. With this friendship gone, I will be bereft of any opportunity to gaze at her mahogany hair and thin legs again, lest by some fateful chance God reunite us at some social function. It is there and then that I will profess my interest in locking lips with her, and ready myself for the disgust she will indubitably reflect at such a socially problematic proposition. Upon this remark, displeasing as it may be, my attention will turn to her older brothers, who having learned of my indecorous behavior, will clock me and, lest God should avail, spoil my physical disposition with a myriad of bruises. These events will go down just as I have posited them now. My nonsense is pre-ordained.

>>21285280
it's still worth it desu

I'm reading books so that I can cultivate a patchwork of intelligent sounding things to say to ordinary people which will make the intractable conflict of interacting at all with other people easier. If I can just fake being smart, I will have value, and my taciturnity will be seen as a virtue rather than strangeness. If I make them think I am smart, while retaining my politeness, I will have value. I won't chafe against anyone's ego, but I won't leave a memory either. I just need to deceive them, so that they don't dig deeper behind my boring demeanor. They will leave me alone.

>>21287550
Is it? putting a jaded veteran and naive fool together never seems like a good idea.

>>21287569
It's more about being clever than intelligent. If we take it all as a game of deceit, then cleverness is pulling off little tricks, smoke and mirrors ; whereas an intelligent person is someone who is wholly capable of pulling a great big swindle on a large group of onlookers. Scale. But you know what's also important ? The little tricks convey confidence. Not telling you to overthink this shit, rather tipping you off to honing reflexes and reactions over planning. Good luck m8.

>>21287339
what game is it you believe you're playing?

>>21287577
Not romance with a highschooler, just romance in general. dont get caught up in a fantasy that was sold to you, love is hard for everyone

Everything is work. I won't make another year. I'm again for the thousand's time am considering suicide dialy multiple times. Life just isn't worth it. I thought it would be with a gf but still it just sucks to be alive.

>>21287583
Other people seem to be able to get IT when it comes to love.

If you only feel peace at night when everything is silent and black, why live?

>>21287604
so you can look forward to creeping into a warm and comfy bed at night

>>21286913
I had to find a TV special in the middle of a series by trawling porn sites. It's not even a particularly R rated special, but I think the internet decided to only store it on porn sites because the title has the word nut in it. The only hope of my being able to watch the series through is based on the habits of mass porn downloaders and reuploaders who hopefully never notice.

>>21287591
I'm in the exact same situation. Each time I look at the clock when I wake up I just get so agitated.
What's all this grinding for?

I feel perfectly sane, in fact I know I am perfectly sane, yet if I were to talk to anyone about what I believe or what I feel they would think I am undeniably a loony.

>>21287706
kek, this is how I wound up being paid by the government to go away. People just don't like frank conversation.

>>21286808
It’s not horniness retard, there’s a level of closeness you can only have with your partner that supersedes all else

>>21286940
Wanted to read something about Evo bio, better the lectures or the book?

>>21287582
The chase desire - fulfil desire (or not) - find new desire game. Not a fan.

>>21287358
You have them reversed anon.

When I was 26 or 27 I had a personal crisis moment. I didn’t realize until now that I was supposed make a choice and change my life at that moment.

>>21288138
What change anon?

>>21288270
Go somewhere else, do something else.

Have you ever fallen out of love with the person you want to spend your life with for just one day? Lost all feeling out of nowhere for no reason? Knowing it would return but for that single day feeling nothing. Doing nothing about it but waiting for it to pass.

>>21285212
Is Alice in wonderland worth reading?

Will you get much out of it as an adult?

>>21288280
No. I'm not a teenage girl. For millennia, people married for good breeding, for political alliances, for business alliances, or simply to stave off loneliness. If love exists, it's a lasting thing that sort of just exists in the background, and it's cultivated in that over the decades. It's how you love a family member. What kind of fool would I be to suppose that it's different for me for some reason?

Somehow, I've ended up in a public service career. It's not so bad. I just wish I had done something more remarkable while I was young. Looking at admirable figures from the last few centuries, I can't help, but feel like this biography is more filled out in an undesirable fashion than I'd like it to be.

>>21288280
yeah
married 6 years (almost 7 now)
it passes
usually when i see her smile

>>21288355
mega based. wish you guys the best.

At least literature didn't get as irrevocably fucked by technology as classical painting did.

It is way too easy for young men to squander young adulthood today.

>>21288401
You don't think it did? Many would insist that a really great work of literature hasn't been written since the 90s at least.

I had wanted to study overseas, but I can't quite do that in a law degree.

day 2 of trying to cure loneliness by consuming alcohol.

>>21288403
I've just been thinking about it a little recently, after I watched a documentary on Picasso. Technology, specifically cameras, were a primary motivator for his modern cubist style. The artists felt what was coming, and knew how radically technology would change things. Literature I think is more robust, I like a lot of post-modern writers and don't think they are as far removed from what I consider to be writing, as painters are from painting.
I realize this isn't a very well thought out idea yet, and I'll admit I haven't really looked much into modern painting anyway, but it's just been on my mind. I have plenty of faith good literature will keep being written.
Who is the Pynchon/McCarthy/Houellebecq of painting?

>>21288429
I also dont mean to imply anything bad about Picasso, I think he is great. I am mostly talking about people from Warhol's era and beyond

>>21288418
Stop being an idiot

>>21288429
Probably Gerhard Richter.

>>21288452
why?

>>21288429
I agree with what you're saying in some sense though. Literature has a place as long as communication and ideas have a place. It doesn't mean it will be good or lasting, but it will be there. Meanwhile, visual art has been devastated. You can make an argument, however, that literature has always been more highly valued in our culture anyway so that was inevitable. Maybe another culture would've adapted painting to all this better. There are some interesting things still happening in visual fine art over in Asia.

>>21288455
Cool, I like this one.

I cut myself again because I’m so fucking bored.

>>21288465
>literature has always been more highly valued in our culture
See, this is another thing that has been on my mind. Which between the two is more fundamental? More pure? It's undeniably visual art (e.g. Lascaux). I can't say for sure how the two are measured culturally today, but if it's on an economic scale VA wins there easily. This painting >>21288483 for example is worth $700000. Either way, I am going to start paying a little more attention to the art world and see what's up.

>>21288509
The point I am trying to make is:
Visual art is Better than literature, because we could paint before we could write.
Am I right?

Tips for lasting longer lads? The kegels aren't working that well

>>21288527
just go for a second round. if not, there are ejaculation prolonging creams.

>>21288540
I'm so horny I go off quick on a second round at the moment. Not fucked for a month. I'll try the creams though thanks

>>21285212
I did recreational doses of tramadol for the last ten days. It's an OK high for me. The NRI action of it actually makes me kind of productive. I've decided to give it a break though, and I am feeling absolutely zero cravings or withdrawals. Did have non-stop extremely vivid dreams the first night after stopping though, it was great.

However, I am about to take my first shit for some twelve days, and I have unironically bought anal lube to put on my asshole, because this one is going to be a bleeder.

/literary lifestyle/, now and forever.

>>21288662
highest of high peaks
reddest of the red shits
/lit/

>>21288662
happens to me with kratom lol

>>21288402
how so?

What's on my mind right now is a poem I just wrote. Care to rate it?

My name is Xi Jinping.
Coming straight from Beijing.
The gweilos are my king.
We had a homo fling.
I sucked their ding a ling.
And I love ass play too.
White fingers make me sing.
My nickname's Pin Ki Ring.
But NATO cock does sting.

I have an opening scene about Nikolas Cruz I wrote too. Could you rate the quality of the writing?

An empty man called Nikolas Cruz is sitting in a cell pondering the mark he's left on the world. Fantasizing about the 17 people he murdered. In his mind he's a god. And sadism is his religion. Somewhere deep in the annals of his mind he knows fighting the death penalty and spending the rest of his young, long life in this hellhole was a mistake. But he can't face the alternative. As his train of thought drifts to his new cellmate, a boyish looking fellow who couldn't be older than 19 or 20, he starts to get an erection. Nick has plans for him.

list of good things

1. short songs
2. cocaine
3. in conjunction w above: cigarettes, coffee, work
3. running from problems
4. acting unfazed & just acting
5. keeping secrets
6. not having individual secrets
7. love
8. exclamation points in emails
9. never explaining
10. this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w15oWDh02K4

>>21288809
good song

>>21288820
an all-timer

>>21288827
are you doing lines rn?

>>21288509
In Western culture, it's music or literature. Western culture is like the musical and literary culture par excellence.

>>21288832
yeah

>>21288744
There's nothing for them to do but go to school, chase after mediocre careers, and play video games. In the past, they could start businesses and get rich if they were so inclined, but even that is increasingly off the table.

I can't believe that there was two dozen anons having a genuine meltdown because of people dogging them on a show for being addicted to scat and tranny porn over on /co/. I know it's 4channel, the original hotbed for depraved shit in the 2000s, by my goodness did it make me realize the difference between the different boards' attitudes. The whole "no it's not a problem, you're just a bunch of neo-puritans" kind of thing. Not that I relish in smugly making fun of people's fetishes, I personally prefer talking things out calmly and trying to find the root of the issue. It was just the clearest manifestation of the pre-2016 nolife spirit that I've seen in a while.

>>21288859
what if I dont want to settle for mediocre way?

>>21288866
I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer.

>>21288401
a lot of those classical paintings weren't very good to begin with.

>>21288874
I understand. No one has the answer.

This is a poem I wrote about writing. The ending is stronger than the rest of it.

In coming up with that next line.
One must be sure to cut it fine.
I've got to carefully refine.
The verse that makes you feel sublime.
Shall I dream up that final rhyme?
Or has this poem run out of time?

>>21287593
Key word there is SEEM. A lot of couples are only there for their own pleasure and not for the other person. People settle a lot in love and while that makes them happy for a bit, it bites them in the ass later. I've seen couples that were together for years break up and a week later they were with different people, meaning there was nkt that much of a connection there in the first place. Ultimately, you have to decide what you want out of thia relationship and how best to make it work, for both you and your partner's sake. This is something that people don't seem to understand at all nowadays. They understand what they want, but not how to give.

Thanks to the anons who replied my Pillars of the Earth thread yesterday. Didn't have time to take a look at it before it was pruned

>>21288924
Anon, I've never been in a relationship (or love). I'm too naive.

>>21288859
It was always easy for them to squander young adulthood, because guess what, people are lazy. Never changes. It's easier to do nothing than do something. The future is uncertain but doing nothing is a certainty

>>21288906
I don't know if there is "the answer", or even "an answer". I can only say how things were for me and what I wish I had done.

>>21288949
There's no use sitting around wishing either, because that's also a waste of time. You might as well try building a time machine in that case because it's an impossible time wasting task

>>21288943
I disagree. I firmly believe that civilizations offer or deprive certain opportunities and this is a civilization of deprivation for young men. The possibilities of one time and place and the possibilities of another are different and they're not necessarily zero-sum.

>>21288953
I agree.

>>21288941
Neither have I. Frankly, if you have zero hope something is going to happen, it won't. I'm not saying it will be easy to find love, but you have to have hope you can find it and you have to have the willpower to make it last if it is an especially good relationship with an exceptionaly good woman. I've come to understand that life is full of chances and oppurtunities we don't see unless we either make them or we seek them out. Unless something is actually logically or physically impossible, never say never. You never know how life can change, but it all starts with saying "Anything van happen".

>>21288957
It's not civilization's problem you failed to live up to your own sense of personal responsibility. Why should civilization offer you a chance to become a writer, artist, or live out your dreams? You have to do that yourself and most people aren't willing to make the sacrifices to their free time

Who drives consciousness of the collective megamind of 4chan ?

>>21285233
anyone still going strong with nnn

>>21288964
I had these situations where she felt something to me and vice versa. It was not meant to be. I ended up as a wizard.

>>21288972
shills and special interest groups like the DS 4gets who spam threads and make pretend controversy to increase viewer engagement. Anon is played like a fiddle

>>21288965
I think you're just projecting now.

>>21285212
What does t. stand for? truly yours?

>>21289012
You were the one who implied 'civilization' should offer young men more opportunities. All I said was it's their responsibility

>>21289004
You're not dead yet and there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of young women out there. There's a time to give up but that only occurs when you are genuinely elderly and even then there's still a ghost of a chamce that you can find true love. The thing is, you'll have to fight for it and if you give up now, you'll never find it. Whether you are content with defeat via giving up or still contentness in the search itself is up to you. I can't choose what you will do, but if I were you, even that small glimmer of hope to find true love in this cold and hostile world world be enough to keep me going. It certainly is better than nothing or brooding over past relationships for my entire life.

Believe me, people are much more satisfied with sitting around doing jack shit than getting up and doing something with sustained effort over a long period of time

>>21289032
Can it really happen anon? Can it? That like releasing me into den of lions.

>>21289035
>>21289027
>>21288965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp5JNxfhOcc

>>21289027
It's their responsibility to seize upon possibilities, but which possibilities are available to them, that's largely a consequence of things like when and where they live.

>>21289041
Stranger things have happened. A person finding true love late in life is not the most improbable thing to ever have happened. Hell, I'm pretty sure shit like that takes place everyday and uncointable times throughout history.

>>21289074
Just make sure you aren't resigning yourself to fate or a self-fulfilling prophecy, that's all I'm saying

Wasn't meant to be I guess. Maybe without COVID pause things would be different, but oh well.

>>21288402
If the young men are too weak to seize the day then why the fuck should anyone defer to them

>https://www.iwf.org/2022/09/14/nicholas-eberstadt-on-the-rising-non-working-class/
this is a fun read that was on the frontpage of hn for about an hour before it got flagged.

>>21289086
You can never make sure of that.

>>21289132
Do they suggest the cause?

>>21289081
but can it happen to ME?

>>21288859
>>21288957
You can start a business now, people start businesses every day. If you're gonna get all misty-eyed for days gone by, at least pine for something that you legitimately can't do today

>>21289132
hn?

>>21289192
Yes, but you have to actually go out into the wprld and look for what you want. It may be scarier, but the alternative is even more abhorrent (to you and to me), so the lessons learned along the way are worth it, no matter the how paingul they might feel. I mean, between being alone fpr the rest of your life for certain if you don't act and possibly finding the love of one's life, which one spunds more pleasing to you? Whichever one you choose, make sure you do what you need to do to achieve that goal.

>>21289232
Being used seem much worse than being alone. I'm just looking for love but it seems like being a sheep who's thrown into den of lions.

Trying to look for DIY home tips for dental care with dentist tools is turning me libertarian. Every single website it brings me to is some whiny coward writing paragraph after paragraph about how I should never do it myself and absolutely should see a dentist. I just want to scrape of my calculus with one of those stabby tools the dentist uses, but even searching for options to buy one of those, Big Dentist has rigged the SEO to bring me to their boring blogs about how you should never do DIY dental care.

Halfway there to just doing it with an unfolded paperclip while blasting Rage Against the Machine, fuck their paternalism.

>>21289237
>Being used
What does this even mean?

>>21289258
Its simple. I have no relationship experience hence I'd be used by any girl whos socially cunning.

>>21289237
>>21289265

I'm not saying there's 0 risk involved with finding love. But, it's better to have make an honest attempt to find it amd not than to never find it and wonder what if. Most people are cruel, hostile and frankly animalistic. That doesn't mean there aren't women put there that aren't beautiful, caring, nice and literal factories of the most enlightening joy. Again, if there is just one woman like that, I would take that chance. A recommendation I would give you for a good read is The Story of a Soul by St Therese de Lisieux amd Ghost Rider from Neil Peart. Both deal with the theme of loss and how from that loss and self-isolation, the author grew as a person via a spiritual journey that makes them more of an actualized person by the end of a journey. Life is a road full of vipers and wolves, but if we just stay in onr place and sulk, it's probably worse since there's not even the oppurtunity to grow. You can't live a meaningful life being afraid of what can go wrong all the time. Save that mentality for when things are absolutly dire. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not just endured.

That being said, in order to find true anything and npt be used, you will have to know who you are and set boundaries as soon as you think someone is taking advantage of you. That's the best defense against someone using you as a tool to enhance their life at the expense of yours. Life is too short to constantly wprry. Think of it this way, there are people livong and since deceased that would love to have the life ypu have right now. You are pretty lucky that finding love is your boggest concern at the moment. You aren't starving or looking for shelter from the elements or in a brutal war (from what I can gather). Start seeing what has gone right in your life and then from there you'll eventually see things you did right in the past and maybe that woll gove you the confidence to strike out and look for ways to make your life evwn better.

>>21289287
Thank you for effortpostinhg.
>what has gone right in your life
honestly? nothing. I have a fools hope but at the same time Im saying to myself, not to expect anything just not to be hurt any more.

I've recently noticed that zoomers often append their statements with question marks, to imply a sort of "yeah ackschually you're wrong".
While omitting them on actual questions.
Weird.

I was reading all the chat backlog I've acquired with her along the years. Man, I fucked up big time. She always tried to be nice and prevent conflict even tho I insisted on it. I understand why she hates me now.

>>21285212
I'm tired of being weak, really. The worst part of being weak is that you can somehow convince yourself you already lost too many things to get this far and it'd be a shame to throw them away in a fit of anger. I have this strange mental barrier that prevents me from defending myself whenever someone is disrespecting me.
>No, you can't beat the shit out of [x] and [y] even if you really want to and they deserve it, because they'd call the cops.
>No, you can't fuck your relationship because [x] is friends with [y] and [z], and that would end your social life.
Why does it feel so wrong not to do anything then? Why do I feel the urge to vomit whenever I think of my moments of weakness?

Sometimes it seems like the world really wants to fuck with me and sends me the worst people so that they can make my life a living hell without suffering any consequence. Why is justice on the side of bullies? I sometimes say I wish I had a throwaway life to freely slap the shit out of the ones deserving it but, deep down, I know it is not the right answer either. What should I do then? Live my life like I'm a guy playing GTA? Punching drunkards in the chin and risk my life for a cigarette? Take the middle ground, pick my battles? What about the cops?

I wish I was as fearless as my dad was. He probably didn't think of that shit when he was my age.

>>21289265
Used for what, is what I'm wondering

It's funny what people say to cope with a small shlong.
>Doctors have this term "micropenis"
>You don't even have this condition lmao so what's the problem?

It's like if someone was sad they were short and you said "Lol but you aren't even a lilliput" or if a girl didn't like having small tits and you said "But at least your boobs didn't have to be amputated completely because of cancer or some shit.
It's absurd
>lmao you don't have a serious medical impairment, what's the deal

>>21289384
How small are we talking here

rock bottom makes solid foundation or is this a cope?

>>21287751
I did both and found the lectures great. The book is punishing in parts, dense with acronyms for brain regions and processes, and long. I need to re read it, definitely worthwhile though.

I feel like I got stuck in career limbo.

>>21289386
I mean doesn't matter, just when someone has complexes over it.

>>21289427
>it doesnt matter
Tell me your a dicklet without saying youre dicklet.

>>21289451
Go back to tiktok, you must be 18 to post here.
Like what do you mean, of course I am, but that wasn't the point of the post.