/lit/ - Literature

>>21277421
he was too pure for this world.

>>21277421
>He doesn't know about the crazy bitches
Smh fr

>>21277421
He simply fed himself on their suffering. Drukhari.

>>21277421
simp game off the charts
dude would be subscribed to thirty onlyfans' if he were alive today

>>21277455
>>21277463
that's not what simping means

>>21277421
he was too pure for this world.

>>21277513
Because it doesn't mean anything.

>>21277421
Dosto hate threads always emerge around this time, I wonder why.

>>21277546
This. It's man's innate nature to grovel and beg before the altar of Great Vulva.

>>21277421
"I can fix her!"

>>21277553
Not enough sunlight

>>21277553
It's peak European hours. They hate all things Russians because they are going to freeze to death this winter.

>>21277585
Knowing dosto, it was probably more "she can fix me" lol

>>21277421
Dostoyevsky is the GOAT. Simple as

>>21277560
it's white kids stealing more black slang

>tfw no mad, consumptive Russoid gf

>>21277799
niggers use English words rather than ngugu bongo all the time so who cares.

>>21277421
yes
>But that I should feel any resentment against you, Nastenka! That I should cast a dark shadow over your bright, serene happiness! ...That I should crush a single one of those delicate blooms which you will wear in your dark hair when you walk up the aisle to the altar with him! Oh no — never, never! May your sky be always clear, may your dear smile be always bright and happy, and may you be for ever blessed for that moment of bliss and happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart ... Good Lord, only a moment of bliss? Isn't such a moment sufficient for the whole of a man's life?

>>21277939
>Isn't such a moment sufficient for the whole of a man's life?
Still crushes me even ten years later after I first read it, god fucking damn it

>>21277421
So he got some crazy girl pussy, as well as get new material for his books? He remains undefeated, hero

>>21277421
I hate Dostojevsky. His stories are so fucking boring, after half a book I just wanted to neck myself and threw it away.

Fuck him and his hoes.

>>21277979
That was DFW’s approach
>You say you would only love a woman who is a reader and at least as intelligent as you. This is a challenge. Not on account of women, but the condition of Americans generally. If you were a homosexual this would be just as tricky, or maybe a bit less, if only because openly homosexual men tend to be educated. If you were a heterosexual woman, I would tell you to be prepared to settle. You should be prepared for that anyway, in most matters. Doing so defends your sanity.
>Nevertheless, in your search for this woman you must understand that serious reading is ultimately a leisure activity of the upper-middle and upper classes in America. All classes read, many poor kids read voraciously, but their po-dunk and shot-up schools cannot turn the appetite into taste, and by the time they are adults they have turned to the television and magazines. Serious readers are nursed by IB and AP classes and decent liberal arts colleges or very good professors nibbling at the margins of big state schools. You mentioned MFA programs but you are not a writer, and a woman in that sort of thing is more likely to accept a man who is her antithesis, a counterweight - a financial analyst or orthodontist - than she is to tolerate a dilettante and snob like you intruding on her great love.
>You will want a girl with wounded self-esteem and a need to belong - there are plenty of those - but not so many who can discuss Turgenev and Camus earnestly. If you can, I would advise you to get committed to a haute-bourgeois psychiatric hospital like McLean's and make a show of reading easily identifiable works of literary fiction in every common area. Strike up conversations with any girl in the day room who has a notebook or decent novel in her little shaky hands, who has bandaged wrists and insomniac eyes. If you don't have the nerve to go this far, seek out support groups for cutters, burners, or bulimics in and around elite universities and preppy suburbs.
~David Foster Wallace, Fan Mail Response dated 03/09/2004, archived by The Harry Ransom Center

>>21277939
>Isn't such a moment sufficient for the whole of a man's life?
It's really not.

>>21278189
Further evidence, as if we needed any, that Wallace was a man of sublime taste and discernment. There is nothing more satisfying sexually that taking a truly broken women, with multiple suicide attempts to her credit, and slowly reintroducing her to the pleasures of existence via your penis.

>>21278189
He wrote this with a raging boner.

>>21277421
Internet, social media, smart-phones have sucked the innocence and romance out of life

get a fucking clue you inhumane motherless bastards. what have you done for other people, ever?

>>21278453
Life now is more innocent than it has ever been.

>>21278513
If his motivation was so pure and free of lust, why did he only visit the women’s wing?

>>21278593
if his motivation was so pure and free of lust as it was, why wouldnt he?
>>21277435
fpbp

rest of you are sad pathetic sack of self- traitors

>>21277602
Bro it’s almost winter and the Euroids seem to be doing fine.

>>21278882
There was a large men’s wing at the time, if he wanted to help people, why did he ignore them? Because he was sexually attracted to (and probably sexually using) the female inmates.

>>21278884
Two more weeks, comrade!

>>21278907
you think you're smart and that your way of thinking is bulletproof and infallible but for someone with an even a grain of emphaty and hope in his soul its incredibly sad and debilitating. I know that hordes of men think this way and you will find similar- thinkers anywhere- Although im not sure what use would be of 2 people with your attitude being at the same place and conversing. What good could come out of it? What good could possibly come out of interaction with 2 people that have your attitude?
At the end of the day you choose how you view things. You say you view it the way you said you view it. It leaves no room for anything even remotely honest, loving, giving and kind ever happening
At the end of the day you betray yourself and others who need you with that attitude. Its the saddest thing i can imagine happening. But hey, at least you get to mock people like Dosto and you get to not get mocked the way you just mocked him
this goes also to these posters:
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>>21278958
>text text text more text
He used crazy women to coom and even managed to get people like you to defend his actions 150 years later. What a madlad.

>>21277421
Based
>Stop trying to save hoes, Fyodor
Kys

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>>21277602
False
We hate America, it's their fault, as fucking always

>>21277939
pure schlock

>>21279300
It’s better in the original. A lot of the translations are very soapy.

>>21277991
imagine being filtered by crime and punishment

>>21279674
Many such cases. Sad.

>>21277421
/r9k/ thread, not literature. The use of Dostoyevsky’s name is just a ploy

>>21278189
>be prepared to settle
>reading is for the upper class
>others read but have shit taste
>women who read aren’t into guys who read
>just find a really fucked up girl in an upper class area who reads
I don’t really understand. Is he saying intellectuals suck as partners because they’re all damaged? Is he shooting him down by saying only a fucked up, insecure one would want him?

>>21279989
He is saying that it is unlikely that he will find a literary gf, and that he should really not bother. If he is going to bother, and insists on finding a reader with good taste, they will likely be upper class and well educated. They would then probably be out of the guy’s league. The only way to get a well educated upper class woman to stoop so low as to date the average male lit enthusiast would be to find one that is mentally ill. In a nutshell: your brilliant literary fantasy gf probably exists, but she is a high value woman who is probably fucking Chad - to find one who will fuck you, you will need to dumpster dive in your local mental ward.

>>21277939
You just know that Nastenka would be one of those slutty BPD girls with a septum piercing if she was around today.

>>21280029
I would like to hire you to interpret all Dosto's works. What's your rate?

>>21277421
out of all the things in dostoevsky's biography, THIS is what you quote to show he's a simp? bro read more

>>21280189
I'll do it for a gf

>>21278958
Notice the desperate, agressive tone in this man's writing, he is exactly the kind of person being described.

>>21281005
He actually sounds like a Dostoevsky character lol

I unironically want to remove the ligaments of every person in this thread with a hot spoon, why have lit and his become such shit boards

>>21281687
When Reddit cracked down on fringe/right wing subs the refugees came here, but /pol/ is too edgy for them so they shit up the blue boards.

>>21280529
What other examples do you have?

>>21277421
You seem to view common human decency as weakness. I'm not sure why you think this way. Being nice to people isn't "simping," not all good deeds done towards women by men are done with the expectation or even hope of sexual gratification.
>>21278958
This guy gets it.

>>21281687
I feel you.

>>21277421
Wow, sounds awesome. Good on him.

>>21282058
How is this thread even that right wing?
Most of the posts here have just been the usual shitflinging.

>>21278958
BASED
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>>21278512
>Life now is more innocent than it has ever been.
Total bullshit. Prove it, if it is.

>>21280981
wat about gf (male)

>>21277421
le sad russian guy

>>21280029
But I want a cute /lit/ gf....

>>21281687
>why have lit and his become such shit boards

Millennials.

>>21278958
Weird how I see these kinds of posts addressing misogyny but never towards misandry.

>>21277859
>consumptives look like THAT?

>>21278189
His writing was complete garbage though so who cares

>>21283817
People are completely sheltered in the west. Don't have to fight in wars, don't have to face financial hardships or go without food, less disease. I have no idea how you think it could be the other way around, do you think because we have easier access to porn we are less innocent? lmao

>>21284425
I disagree

>>21284449
b-but womens are having lots of premarital sex with men who aren't me!

>>21284469
That's probably because you're an idiot. Even that crap quotation I responded to shows basically everything about his terrible writing. I don't even know what it's derivative of, but it's both derivative and shit.

>>21284476
>I want my future wife to have lots of "experience"
Disgusting

>>21284485
they always do, the only difference is that church girl won't tell you about it lol

>>21284469
>You will want a girl with wounded self-esteem and a need to belong - there are plenty of those - but not so many who can discuss Turgenev and Camus earnestly. If you can, I would advise you to get committed to a haute-bourgeois psychiatric hospital like McLean's and make a show of reading easily identifiable works of literary fiction in every common area. Strike up conversations with any girl in the day room who has a notebook or decent novel in her little shaky hands, who has bandaged wrists and insomniac eyes. If you don't have the nerve to go this far, seek out support groups for cutters, burners, or bulimics in and around elite universities and preppy suburbs.

>>21277421
I read two of his easy books, Crime and Punishment, Memoirs from Underground... good books.

I Started some of his more mature ones but i get stuck in first 100 pages and forget to read them again.
They are boring or to dense and i forget details... Maybe i will let some years to pass.

On the other hand i find Tolstoy more interesting, the story catches me creating and urge to know how where the narrative will go.

What do you think?

>>21284499
John Green is far too much a coward to ever write so frankly about women.

>>21286371
It's not frankly its totally made up

>>21278189
Impeccable observation, but Jesus that is sad.

>>21278189
This is a good set-up for a romantic comedy, something in the vein of Silver Linings Playbook.

>>21277939
>simping this hard
I love dostoyevsky but paragraph is gay as fuck

>>21277421
Being a kind and charitable person out of your own conviction doesn’t make you a simp, and is something above all to be admired.

>>21286657
>lives in a city full of prisons and poorhouses
>only frequents the women’s wing of a mental institution, ignores the men’s ward next door, ignores the other places of need
He was a horny little bastard. Stop denying it.

>>21285879
Have you tried the Idiot? It's probably his most Tolstoyan work.

>>21284449
>pic
isn’t that just because of drugs though? also this is one of the most JUST haircuts I’ve ever seen lol

>>21285879
It always takes me a while to break through the first 100-150 pages, then I can't put it down. I'll read 3-4 other books by the time I get back into it. But once I do, it's always rewarding.

>>21286647
He was a giant cuck prior to going to prison. Then these types of characters are portrayed as spineless cowards instead of acquiring any sympathy.

>>21277421
>Stop trying to save hoes, Fyodor
Never, ever, I repeat, NEVER, EVER, pitty women. You can be compassionate, but NEVER pitiful. If you do it, they'll take advantage of you and destroy you

Threadly reminder that women are incapable of reciprocating sympathy.

>>21278908
cringe

>>21288174
I would imagine be anally raped, by his own admission, at least 40 times would harden a man.

>>21288398
How can a Victoria wrote like this?
>a social value scale that relates to their own egos
It just screams 'millenial'.