/lit/ - Literature

It’s a conspiracy concocted by your mother just because she hates you anon and wants to ruin your fun video game time

>>21271934
This is the only place you can be respected as a theist because (some) people here actually read.

>>21271941
my mom had be at a very early age, and even though she never said it, I always felt like she blamed me for her bad life, that she I hated me for it. which is a sad thing because no mother wants to hate her child, but that's just the way it is i guess.

The good news must be shared.

https://youtu.be/n1yzqsWxcBY

>>21271934
/lit/ is not your edgy atheist sub-reddit.
/lit/ is a spiritually aware and elevated board (mostly).
If you are pic rel, /lit/ is not for you.

>>21271934
Even worse: they will tell you "you're 15yo" for calling them out.

There are billions of imaginary beings in books but their shit jesus and god story must somehow be true lmao

If god exists he won't let me post this comment. Biblefags btfo.

>>21271934
they're tradcath larpers from /pol/

>>21271958
>Even worse: they will tell you "you're 15yo" for calling them out.
>Constructs the laziest strawman of theism he possibly can
You're either 15 or retarded. Theists are being charitable to you by assuming you just have an undeveloped mind when you post this tripe.

>>21271949
Why not do something to make her proud if you feel you owe her. This seems like a pattern with you where you’re just complaining and sad the world isn’t automatically falling into place around you. It’s pathetic

>>21271976
The reality is that you need to have the mind of a child to believe an Imaginary being like santa clause exists and the only defense you have is to project that onto others.

God exists like dragons or lord of the rings as an imagination in your brain but not as an object.

>>21271976
>You're either 15 or retarded. Theists are being charitable to you by assuming you just have an undeveloped mind when you post this tripe.

>>21271955
> /lit/ is a spiritually aware and elevated board (mostly).
/lit/ is full of ignorant screeching, vulgarity, and racism. /lit/ is really more satanic than Christian when you get down to it.

>>21271934
Incels decided to pretend that the reason they are alone is because they want a trad wife who does not exist and would rather be alone than accept anything else. Don't knock it, it is far better than the incel days.

>>21271934
if you fucking think /lit/ is bad, don't even open /his/.

>>21271934
/lit/ is where fringe larpers get to pretend to be smart, if you're a reddit atheist you'll fit in

>>21271934
Because rules are not enforced. Paranormal/religious stuff belongs on /x/

>>21271934
The bible induced many to look inward and feel a sense of belonging for the first time. They will naturally fixate on it. It is the same with other hobbies. For example, those who turned to weightlifting when they felt disheartened will overemphasize its importance. You should still read the bible and read about christian history because they have been extremely influential.

>>21271934
I hate the antichrist and pray for every lost soul here!

>>21271934
The bible is considered to be the greatest book ever written (at least arguably the most influential and wide spread literary work) so it shouldn't be surprising that it comes up a lot in discussions about literature. Couple that with religion bating being one of the more effective methods of generating (You)'s on this dopamine driven shit show called 4chan and you get the perfect storm of christcuck faggotry.

You guys have been complaining about theists ever since the board was created, and everytime you act as if it was a totally new phenomenon supposedly coming out of nowhere, it's all so tiresome.

>>21272222
checked

>>21271934
read the Bible

Basically because this board in particular is targeted for deradicalization gay ops because it is because of the type of person the posts here and what they will respond to.
What is pushed here on lit is stuff in the Peter Thiel sphere of intellectual diversions meant to take would be radical nazis and turn them into navel gazing, pedantic conservative types who are politically ineffective. They choose this type of edgy, almost radical stuff like trad cath, Junger anarch wankery, BAP homoNietzschianism, and anti tech Kaczynskism because they are depoliticizing dead ends. They also appeal to the right wing instinct that most people here are going to have, so they're more effective at diverting people from Natsoc stuff than leftism. THough you do occasionally find some half hearted lefty pol stuff posted here, it never sticks or succeeds in creating intellectual colonies here like the above mentioned examples.

Christianity has been used as a depolitizing and diversionary tool by the American establishment before, most notably the evangelical moral majority movement that came about after the civil rights movement and took white people's energy away from real world issues affecting them in America. Now of course, since then end of the Bush era, evangelical protestantism has faltered and become too much of a low brow laughing stock to be brought out again. So now, more "aesthetic" forms of Chritianity that are more likely to appeal to the bourgeois sensibilities of the internet intellectual have to be trotted out and presented as the new thing for the man opposed to liberalism, and it seems to be working on some people.

>>21272222
quick search of the archives, 105 ops with "theist" in them, 1385 ops with "atheist" and a quick scan says the "theist" ops are largely pro theist and the "atheist" ops are theists seething. The numbers are fairly clear, keep seething.

>>21272247
I fail to see how that refutes what I said.

>>21271947
>This is the only place you can be respected as a theist because (some) people here actually read.
That's precarious, anon, since most diehard atheists are very well-read in the various religions.

>>21271934
>why is /lit flooded with bible fags?
It's like this: imagine you're Faunus and you're out hunting Panthers with your lagobolon; ifhere are no panthers then you have nothing to hunt and no way to have fun, so you want to encourage the panthers to fill the forest by giving them a sense of security to do so, this means that the forest is now filled with panthers and is rather dangerous 'but' it is only so because Faunus enjoys, from time to time, hunting a Panther or two.

It's kind of like that, wherein I am Faunus and my argument is my rabbit-hunting stick and the Christcuck is the panther. But don't worry too much about this, the Panthers - as with all sectarianism - are to be found killing each other over 'feeding rights' (i.e. you are their prey, do not forget this) when I'm not busy braining them.

there's a cool statue of this, see img.

>>21272273
You can not see why 1300 off topic threads seething about atheists would not cause some animosity?

>>21271934
Angsty neets who have too much time in their hands, so have to dedicate themselves to something.
They hate everything, so they just get extremely dogmatic about their religious belief while jerking off to porn at night.

>>21272082
The problem, though, is that when you ask them about "why (the church is so bad now)" they will immediately blame a third party, and then they're revealed to have no greater depth or consideration to things than the average tv news watcher.

They enjoy to complain about the world and possess an ideology which tells them that doing anything in the world is evil or irrelevant, and they complain, spreading their nihilistic misery, and wait to die.

It's a cope, the holy cope.

And.. of course.. let's all reflect on the absurdity of non-jews adopting reformed judaism and making-pretend that it's 'their culture'.

>>21272298
I see it, but that doesn't have anything to do with you guys pretending that theists are new on this board, we've always been here. You always make the same threads "why are there so many christcucks nowadays?" as if we had just come from under a rock

There's an international effort by the enemies of the west to promote revolutionary violent Christianity to idiots like americans

>>21272319
You're projecting

>>21272322
I don't think I ever read a dumber conspiracy theory, except maybe that time on /X/ when this weird dude told me that nukes weren't real.

>>21272328
You've never read a dumber conspiracy theory? That's such blatant exaggeration that I feel vindicated now

>>21272341
Right, I may have exaggerated things. But it is obvious that the resurgence of theism is a direct organic response to the deviances of the modern world. You don't need foreign powers to make sense of it.

>>21272321
And I would bet (actually I know) the occurrence of those off topic seethe threads have increased greatly in recent times, as has the occurrence of "read the bible" "have fun in hell" and the like in most every thread. OP and threads like OPs are starting to show up because the theists on the board no longer understand what faith is, they need to try and force their faith onto others in order to convince themselves of their own faith.

For you reading the bible may very well be the answer to most any question, for a great many here it is not and the theists of old /lit/ understood and respected that. Relations will improve greatly if christcucks could should some self restraint and consideration for the beliefs of others instead of making it about themselves and their beliefs.

>>21271934
I got meme’d into tradcath then orthobro for a couple of years
I’m just trying to find some meaning. I still believe that there is a God who created the world but not I’m JC being his son

>>21272326
You've got a fair grasp of sophistry, christcuck, but the logos of the thing is self-evident as to how it does apply for the ideo-religious of this particular theology,
"(they) possess an ideology which tells them that doing anything in the world is evil or irrelevant, and they complain, spreading their nihilistic misery, and wait to die."

>no u
Whereas the borrowing of secular language is the act of deflection and projection which is necessitated by 1) being in error, and 2) religiously refusing to admit to being in error, thus you create enmity by being in the wrong and having to make-pretend to others and yourself that you're 'not' in the wrong, and this is a direct effect of your religion.

Thus, you resemble the "nest of vipers" and all likewise sentiments, Christcuck, "you profess to know god, but by your actions you deny him (you deny truth and oppose logic)," and so on.

thanks for letting me expound upon this, I hadn't done so for a while lol

>>21272237
Nobody asked for your blog post

>>21272296
Then why don't atheists criticize Judaism then?

>>21272346
yes, yes. all the inorganic shit thrust upon the internet en masse since 2015 is a coincidence. pay no mind

>>21272361

>>21272361
Again you're projecting, I don't care if you believe in God.

>>21272364
The west doesn't need foreign powers to fuck itself up, and even then, its people becoming spiritually enclined is actually a good way to delay the inevitable collapse. I don't know who would both hate us and want us to prosper, but you're free to speculate.

>>21272363
>Then why don't atheists criticize Judaism then?
I do lol

Probably same answer as everything else related to Jews, the cultural Christcuck society worships Jews ad Gods Chosen Race, so they're fearful to say their name aloud lest other Christcucks descend on them to silence and punish them for whatever reasoning they have from one week to the next. Whilst Christianity has animosity with the Jews historically, Christianity is literally Judaism and they can't be separated from each other.

I don't think that Christianity, for its merits, can even be understood unless a person is already a Jew - at the same time you can't explain how terrible the Abramic (Judaism) theology is and refute Christianity (for Secularism) or Judaism (for Jesus) without actually delving into Abramic (Judaism) theology; and highlighting the various problems of literalism and nihilism expressed by both of the religions.

>Again you're projecting
>(gas-lighting; one-liner responses)
yawn fucking yawn, childlike lies as usual

This is 'your' religion and mentality by the book (acts of vice, disregard for truth, lies, etc.); I don't have a religious doctrine that forces me to be dishonest.

>>21272366
>>21272370
2nd and last response from me, Christcuck, just to point out how you're the only one here engaging in vice by choice :) your actions speak for themselves, disproves your religion (or demonstrates that you believe in Evil) and prove everything I said, as per usual.

>>21272405
No one here is lying, or being dishonest, or being vicious, and nowhere in your large schizo ramblings were you able to provide examples of this.

>>21272412
oh hello christcuck. i dont even have a problem with you castrating yourself and believing homemade wine is the blood of christ. just do it by yourself over there. dont impose it on me. dont pretend your narrative is prime and subsume everything under it. do whatever the fuck you want. just over ther by yourself. thanks

>>21272412
for reals? holy jesus, alright 1 more reply - you don't deserve it though.

I explained how believing in any religion, or ideology (any non-reality based thinking; e.g. leftism, catholicism), which is -not true- forces the follower -as a consequence of needing to reject the truth- into a dishonest position from the outset,
you said I was "projecting",
you said I was projecting again.
I aid you were gas-lighting (accusing me of what you're doing),
then you said,
>No one here is lying, or being dishonest, or being vicious, and nowhere in your large schizo ramblings were you able to provide examples of this.

Again, you're the only one here engaging in vice by choice. You believe it's your job to verbally abuse me because I 'threaten your religion' by saying whatever it is that I say; so whether you're intellectually capable of understanding the process or not, this >>21272319 remains true and >>21272361 this remains true,
w/ this being the sole reason you and those like you engage in verbal abuse,
>which is necessitated by 1) being in error, and 2) religiously refusing to admit to being in error, thus you create enmity by being in the wrong and having to make-pretend to others and yourself that you're 'not' in the wrong, and this is a direct effect of your religion.

>>21271934
it's a memetic virus which propogates itself by causing the host to have feelings of self-doubt anxiety and penance unless the host spreads it continually.

it's really nothing new. does give you an easy benchmark of someones intelligence tho

>>21272412
for reals? holy jesus, alright 1 more reply - you don't deserve it though.

I explained how believing in any religion, or ideology (any non-reality based thinking; e.g. leftism, catholicism), which is -not true- forces the follower -as a consequence of needing to reject the truth- into a dishonest position from the outset,
you said I was "projecting",
you said I was projecting again.
I aid you were gas-lighting (accusing me of what you're doing),
then you said,
>No one here is lying, or being dishonest, or being vicious, and nowhere in your large schizo ramblings were you able to provide examples of this.
obviously, I present examples in every reply so, that's just more gas-lighting on your part.

So again,
you're the only one here engaging in vice by choice. You believe it's your job to verbally abuse me because I 'threaten your religion' by saying whatever it is that I say; so whether you're intellectually capable of understanding the process or not, this >>21272319 >>21272361 remains true, with
with this being the sole reason you and those like you engage in verbal abuse,

"(verbal abuse, dishonesty, disinterest in reality) which is necessitated by 1) being in error, and 2) religiously refusing to admit to being in error, thus you create enmity by being in the wrong and having to make-pretend to others and yourself that you're 'not' in the wrong, and this is a direct effect of your religion."

>>21272412
for reals? holy jesus, alright 1 more reply - you don't deserve it though.

I explained how believing in any religion, or ideology (any non-reality based thinking; e.g. leftism, catholicism), which is -not true- forces the follower -as a consequence of needing to reject the truth- into a dishonest position from the outset,
you said I was "projecting",
you said I was projecting again.
I aid you were gas-lighting (accusing me of what you're doing),
then you said,
>No one here is lying, or being dishonest, or being vicious, and nowhere in your large schizo ramblings were you able to provide examples of this.
obviously, I present examples in every reply so evidently -as anyone can observe- that's just more gas-lighting on your part.

So again,
you're the only one here engaging in vice by choice. You believe it's your job to verbally abuse me because I 'threaten your religion' by saying whatever it is that I say; so whether you're intellectually capable of understanding the process or not, this >>21272319 >>21272361 remains true, with this being the sole reason you and those like you engage in verbal abuse, that is:
"(dishonesty, disinterest in reality) which is necessitated by (you) 1) being in error, and 2) religiously refusing to admit to being in error, thus you create enmity by being in the wrong and having to make-pretend to others and yourself that you're 'not' in the wrong, and this is a direct effect of your religion."

>>21272405
Nice attempt at a burn but I'm actually a Marcionite/Manichean ideologue. I'm gonna be real frank with you chaim, atheists deserve a worse holocaust than the Jews ever got, and I mean that truly. The instant science, academia, and godlessness is banished for all eternity, the better off we will be.

>>21272384
Like I said, barking up the wrong tree. Its like watching a toddler play with its uncles excrement after sucking him off

>>21272452
>someone insults some aspect of religion
>or points out some glaring contradiction
religious cucks:
you deserve death! you must be an atheist! you must have this psychological illness
also religious cucks:
ackshually i believe in this specific variation so everything you said is wrong hahahaa gottem

>>21272467
Its pretty telling you only responded with ad hominems. Go have sex with your mother. How's that?

>>21272439
/thread

>>21272467
And nothing you said is an actual argument. None of it.

>>21272472
who's projecting now cuck? you've been constantly insulting everyone who even slightly mentions something bad about religion

>>21272476
this anon here >>21272450
and the op >>21272082
have already stated their arguments
your response has been:
stop projecting
stop projecting
aaah ad hominem!
you dont have an argument!

>>21272482
The average atheist is more susceptible to polyamory and engaging in risk-intensive behavior. Keep seething. Nothing like catching aids from the town bicycle or shooting up speedballs. Look at what happened to Hitchens and Fisher. Speaking of the latter, you're also more likely to commit suicide too, but pray tell how you're "good without god" ill be waiting.

>>21272477
I said what I said. I don't even like this place I just come here to piss people off because its funny. You guys are entertaining. Keep it up.

>>21272495
the average christcuck is more susceptible to be used - totally - by the creators of your beliefs.
who's engaging in ad hominem now?
wonderful life you must live, when you think that the instant you stop sucking off ancient jewish beliefs you will fuck whores do drugs and kill yourself.
my my if you're so frail that you will do drugs, fuck diseased whores and kill yourself without religion, then please go ahead and believe.
you have proved your frailty and total submission though.
ok enough no point talking to a broken tape recorder. it will just repeat the same thing over and over again.

ed.
>"(dishonesty, disinterest in reality) which is necessitated by (you) 1) being in error, and 2) religiously refusing to admit to being in error, thus you create enmity by being in the wrong and having to make-pretend to others and yourself that you're 'not' in the wrong, and this is a direct effect of your religion."
In many ways, of course, this 'is' the Christcucks historical complaint of Judaism, they're not wrong but they've adopted Jewish Ethnos as the entire basis of their theology - they do the same thing themselves and it is observable constantly.

If a person has gone along with lie, no matter how small, then they've been trapped by the vice of pride; this is where we find these people: childlike and unlearned, lazy and slovenly, possessing no virtue whatsoever (as their actions are constantly observed to be viceful), and their intellectual output consists of simply and suborn insistently over and over and over again that they're 'right' (in whatever opinion comes to them) because 'god exists'.

Whilst, societal-speaking, possessing no means to argue or prove a thing no discipline to encourage a virtuous disposition (which might excuse the flaws of their religion, if they took themselves seriously instead of 'it'), their society is quickly taken over by idiots as the christucks arguments are unconvincing to anybody as, being built upon lies, they are eventually seen through by the follower who then greatly resents being lied to and becomes a diehard atheist; putting his zealotry into raging about the moral merits of using a womans toilet, or something.

It is lunacy upon lunacy, and trust me when I demonstrate myself as an example of somebody not raised anywhere near 'abramism' that your body and mind; and society in turn, is far better off without ever knowing about any of it.

>>21272452
And yet you use a computer designed by atheists. Curious.

>>21272498
more cope.
>you didn't insult me no
>i come here to be retarded
>im being retarded on purpose
>i said what i said ok
>just believe me
>im not cornered
sure ok
talk your other friend here. he needs your support. he might do drugs and kill himself without constant affirmation of your religious beliefs

>>21272498
pretty pathetic senpai

>>21272505
Marcionites don't believe in the old testament moron. Its funny how atheists claim to be so well read yet so ignorant

>>21272508
Whataboutism. Alan Turing castrated himself for the good of mankind because he was a confirmed pederast. Hence, he sacrificed himself for others, which is pretty close to a Christian ethical system

>>21272518
>haha i believe in this specific variation
>that disproves your argument
>even though the new testament is midrash, pagan customs and variants added to the old testament by jewish priests
get a life. seriously

>>21272527
Its okay to admit you're wrong. It wouldn't hurt to do it at least once in your profane to do so. Confess your sins

>>21272518
but notice how you never disagreed with my assessment. you accept that you are so fucking frail and gullible that you desperately need to latch onto a system of false and outside beliefs to prevent you from fucking diseased whores, doing drugs and killing yourself.
im done. fuck this.
like i said earlier, do whatever the fuck you want to and believe whatever you want to believe. just do it by yourself. dont impose it on others. dont subsume the narrative and history into your beliefs. stop proselytizing under the guise of whatever else. fuck off.

>>21272510
I have better things to do than entertain the possibility of entering hell. But thanks for your concern.

>>21272518
Who gives a shit what edition of the Dungeons and Dragons PHB you prefer? Its all written by men and sold by jews

>>21272530
Another deflection to double down on your error and to convince yourself that its others who are wrong. See >>21272535

>>21272535
Oh but I did. The whole "cuck" thing is a projection. Your kind engages in polyamory more often. Five or so men sharing one fat hag. And if you're hung up on "le facts and logic" I can pull up the graphs too.

>>21271934
Tourists should have never been made citizens

>>21272526
What not whataboutism at all. You say that science and by extension technology is anathema, but you're using it. That's base hypocrisy. i dont think you believe any of this crap, you're a contrarian trying to amuse yourself.

>>21272452
>Marcionite
Ah that's interesting, obviously I'm not Jewish like you but Marcion retrospect represents an interesting position w/re: Christianity and 'reformed judaism for jews'. I used to think Marcion and Paul were the worst but in retrospect, as "reformed judaism" they both make a lot of sense.

We could actually talk about this, if you like.


>chaim
lol to be honest, I consider Christians as both Atheists and Jews; with Judaism being an alien foreign theology with a barbarian, highly stupid and dangerously inhuman monotheism (which inherited and cherish as 'literally god'), but that's cool if you want to make-pretend I'm a Jew.

"delenda est" for all of you, in my opinion.

>atheists deserve a worse holocaust than the Jews ever got, and I mean that truly. The instant science, academia, and godlessness is banished for all eternity, the better off we will be.
Maybe so, but the Atheist in a Christian society is still operating under the precepts and social conditioning of Christianity. You calling me a Jew displays this as well; i.e. "either you believe in my cult, or you (whole world outside my cult) are a Jew," it's an extension of solipsism and fantasy narrative.

>>21272452
>Its like watching a toddler play with its uncles excrement after sucking him off
I agree with this, that is what the Christian/Jewish/Atheist trinity is like.


>>21272495
Why do you assume we're 'atheists'? If o recognize the storybook of the Jews is not a true report on the character or actions of sayings of the 'god of the universe' that doesn't mean you need to think the 'god of the universe' concept is completely bunk, you just recognize that one of those religions anchors itself to the 'claim' that 'it' (above all others) is 'literally true (of what god said/wants)'.

Is that overly complicated? I mean, this is why I recognize that Christians 'are' Jews - because the abramic theology is identical with them both.

>>21271934
>why is /lit flooded with bible fags?
I mean, its really not? As a catholic I don't talk much about bible and I don't really see a lot of people do? If anything, /lit/ is one of the most non-christians boards out there.

>>21272087
based

>>21272537
So I guess Germanic or Roman paganism is Jewish too? That's amazing insight you have there, mr. Goldstein

>>21272539
The only one in error is you. Making a claim that all religion is Jewish will need verification of its own, since you seem to posses all the answers

>>21272544
grossly wrong again.
it is you who is compulsively worried about possessing a woman. which is why you desperately cling onto traditional beliefs. which is also indicative of your overall frailty and gullibility.
historically speaking, non chrisitans have been androcentric and have practiced polygyny.
its only the christcuck inversion that creates cucks likes you.
but you still accept that you are afraid that you will start fucking diseased whores, do drugs and kill yourself if you dont believe.
sigh...
it truly is like speaking to a broken tape recorder

>>21271979
>Why not do something to make her proud if you feel you owe her.
Uhhhhhhh
>pride
>putting that in yourself or others
Why, Anon?

Based, there is no god. If there were a god, life wouldn't be as terrible as it is.

>>21272557
fixating on irrelevant points and more deflection.
YOU believe in variants of jewish beliefs. hence the criticism directed towards jewish beliefs.
what a fucking moron

>>21272557
Its all fake shit to explain why there is wind and what stars are for humans who haven't accumulated enough knowledge to explain them physically.

>>21272548
Thats cute. Its also not white either

>>21272553
Would be nice if you cut 90% of the ad hominems out of there and rephrase what you just said and then ill answer you. Your obsession with Jews is borderline pathological, if I must say. Sure they can be awful people, but here's the difference, mine has a basis in theology, whereas yours is solely based on material concerns. Matter isn't actually real.

>>21272577
Jesus is Jew

>>21272452
>Marcion
Marcion, kids, was of course THE FIRST HERETIC in the Imperial Church of Constantine; to have taken Paul or Tarsus an elevated his words above that of Jesus of Nazareth; arriving, essentially, at the later an contemporary position of the later Western Catholic Church (whereby they ignore jesus on his sayings and advise, and go instead with paul who contradicts many of the things jesus said - spawning 'most' demonstrable claims of the bible being full of contradictions).

>>21272558
Well the flipside of that coin, being "androcentrism" is a pathway towards homosexuality, which many pagans practiced in the ancient times in the absence of Christianity, only to be overturned once they arrived from the East. Its not that I'm saying religion is completely devoid of decadence, but if you only speak of empirical facts, they are not in your favor. You believe in math, right? That's what statistics are made out of.

>>21272577
>Your obsession with Jews is borderline pathological
This thread is about Christianity. All of its denominations are based on jewish beliefs which were promulgated by jewish priests at different times. This isn't an obsession. It is a description. Or its a slimey way out for those cornered in an argument. Screaming "anti-semitism" or "obsession with jews" when cornered isn't a counter-argument.

>>21272577
Not true. We wuz Egyptians, also Macedonians and Romans

>>21272581
No, Jesus never had human qualities and belonged to no nation

>>21272583
Well what he proclaimed seems to be very true nowadays with the behavior of the non-Gentile peoples

>>21272589
>religion helps me cure my homosexual thoughts
>religion helps me assuage my cuck feelings
>its empirically provable btw
>my beliefs better save me from impeding degeneracy
>im so weak and frail
>but its backed by empirical data that says the opposite
>im not gay or a cuck though, i belive in christ!

>>21272595
Jesus was born to Mary, a Jew. Making him.......a Jew.

>>21272594
Well its better if you keep that shit to yourself. Besides atheism is a lack of a belief, why should anyone be concerned about the so called "human rights" of people that stand for nothing? The question of Persecution should only be for positive qualities.

>>21272312
Needing an eternal savior to save you from yourself is probably the most detestable aspect of Christianity to me. How can you have any dignity as a man while grovelling with a guilt complex thinking you deserve eternal hell if you don't submit. Grotesquely effeminate.

>>21272603
More ad homs. You didn't read anything I wrote

>>21272606
Were you around back then?

>>21272589
The church of man love is a such a holy place to be -David Bowie

>>21271934
Just ignore their bluepill addiction.

>>21272612
*external savior

>>21272612
Statistics say otherwise. Like I said "facts and logic" something you hold so dearly, is not your favor

>>21272613
I'm just going by the good old Bibble. Besides, dont think the Pharisees would have debated theology with a gentile. If he wasnt a Jew he sure liked cosplaying as one

>>21272237
Do you have any proof for that?

>>21272577
>Would be nice if you cut 90% of the ad hominems out of there and rephrase what you just said and then ill answer you.
>Your obsession with Jews is borderline pathological,
What? Didn't you just say I was a Jew if I disagreed with you, and that needed to be holocausted? If not, stop interrupting when other people are talking.

>Its also not white
oh schizophrenic gas-lighting confirmed lol - if this is the guy I was talking to..

Actually, your misuse of the term 'pathological' and your gas-lighting habit sounds like the Catholic I was talking to on here yesterday evening. If you're not, how come all of you people do and say exactly the same shit? xd man


Okay, let's stick to the subject,
> Sure they can be awful people, but here's the difference, mine has a basis in theology
this is poor use of the English language.

But I will say that you are no better than the worst examples of any badly behaved Jew you could name; you are mentally ill and engaging in willful constant vice against logic, and your 'ideological' basis for your actions stems from stubborn refusal to admit being in wrong. Thus, as I demonstrated earlier,

as you begin from a position of error and have developed a cognitive impairment to admitting you were wrong; reinforced by your religion, you will constantly oppose logic and constantly be the source of enmity in the world. Your religion is your own pride, to put it more simply, and what you call 'God' is merely your own unlearned baseline impulses to do what whatever you can get away with, then complaining of the consequences of your actions; poverty, injury, etc., pretending that it is magic being cast against you by cartoon character.

>>21272614
The church of man, love, is such a holy place to be. He's addressing the listener, to calling for the worship of homosexuality. The next line he addresses the same listener as "baby." I do agree Bowie was a fag enabler though

>>21272356
>but not in JC being his son
Why not?

>>21272040
>vulgarity and racism
You need to go back.

>>21272618
statistics for what?
>yes I'm an incel faggot but statistically I shouldn't be!
gg lmao

>>21272600
Ah, but the non-gentile peoples would be living in tents without the financial and military support of the gentiles. Whatever crimes the bad examples of the Jews have done and are doing, it is because the Christcuck nation considers them to be semi-divine and desires to serve them - either consciously or subconsciously.

>>21272040

>>21272618
The stats prove my point, friend. You are fundamentally broken, but that's beside the point.
I will repeat again: believe whatever, practice whatever, but by yourself. Don't impose it on other. Don't subsume the narrative into your dogma. Don't pretend to superiority.
A characteristic feature of your religion is to proselytization via false exegesis, false criticism and brutal force. This is the part everyone has a problem with.

>>21271934
2016

>>21272650
Wtf I hate neo liberalism now.

>>21272631
Man-love is not separated in the liner notes i have the original pressing, chud. Bowie fucked men.
When he sings it he sings man-love as one word. The song goes "the church of man-love('s) *pause for breath* is such a holy place to be"

>>21272653
good

>Devoting your life to a Jewish cult made by and for the very weakest of arabs 1800 years ago
>Somehow trying to convince yourself that it's not just a cucked version of Islam

At least follow some religion that would make other people respect you if you are too weak to think for yourself.

>>21272650
>A characteristic feature of your religion is to proselytization via false exegesis, false criticism and brutal force. This is the part everyone has a problem with.
And, in defense of the Christcuck, 'this' may be an ethnic trait of the Northern European - the notion of sectarian bickering over identical theological constructs and demanding verbal affirmation of 'belief' only came around when the swamp-monkeys of the frozen north decided to become Christians. Notice that they do this with ideology also, right up to the present day, despite having removed formal religion from their societies.

The christuck cannot wrap its brain around the paradox that it is a tranny and a pedophile; yet it believe it alone opposes those things, rather it will embrace any foolishness or depravity or outright evil, so long as the evil-doer verbally affirms its 'belief in god'.

Hence, nihilism and solipsism (atheism), as was the earliest observation of the Christians; being deranged mad people obsessed with fantasy and wiling to die over it.

2016

>>21272637
Yeah yeah, I'm sure Jesus would want you to spend 10 hours a day writing I HATE WOMEN KILL NEGROS SNEED AND FEED ADHLAKHKEWTLJ on this fucking hellhole of a site.

>>21272566
>If there were a god, it would be sucking our dicks and wiping our asses.
You know how I know you're a useless faggot?

>>21272840
A little triggered there, are we?

>>21272356
this post explains the entire phenomenon decently enough, the stranglehold of wokeshit makes people seek out a community (and dogma) of their own

>>21272222
is missing the point/untrue because no one ever unironically made posts like>>21272312 >>21271976 >>21272087
its post 2016 sickness but honestly /lit/ doesnt get it nearly as bad as /his/

>>21272685
It's baffling to me that there are still Christians when Islam is a thing. Why not go all the way and become a Muslim? It's the updated version of the faith.

>>21272734
this is the correct and underrated answer

>>21272946
Updated to be worse.

>>21271934
Because 2500 ago Plato wrote instructions on how to indoctrinate the cattle. The Hellenized Jews, upon receiving their Classical Greek education in Alexandria, took the hint and implemented the idea.
The consequences of the disaster, we are mitigating still. Mindviruses are that obnoxious.

>>21273029
>Because 2500 ago Plato wrote instructions on how to indoctrinate the cattle
This, religion is just a mechanism of social control.

It's an indicator of difficult times and capitulation. The astroturfing for Christ is almost exclusively from recent converts. These are the same individuals, whom a decade ago, were hardcore atheists that preached the superiority of their independence from a higher authority. Now instead of accepting the reality of their ineptitude in the material world they became self-righteous and shifted the goal post to the afterlife to sustain their perceived moral high ground. Obviously this doesn't apply to Christians as a whole. The rest are trolls.

Tldr - edgy atheists who recently converted to Christianity are astroturfing their beliefs + trolls

>>21271934
Read the Bible go to church.

>>21273074
>Read the Bible go to church.
just like i did!

>>21272635
Better question is why? Xtianity makes the positive claim about Jesus' divinity and the material-historical "fact" of resurrection and then "supports" it with it's own circular reasoning appealing to axioms you have to already accept to even begin the line or argumentation. It's simply not true. Nothing complicated really.

Of course the Bible is excellent evidence of the truth of Xtianity, after all, it's right there in the Bible! It's easy to believe when you already believe it.

>>21271934
They need to larp.

>>21271934
The Bible.

>>21272793
Yes

>Nice attempt at a burn but I'm actually a Marcionite/Manichean ideologue.

>>21273284
This

>>21273303
Sneed

>>21272650
No, they fucking dont. Where is your evidence?

>>21271934
Most people don't read, but there is a high percentage of people who have read the bible and only the bible.
So inevitably, those people come here. There's also the larpers I guess.

>>21273564
>there is a high percentage of people who have read the bible and only the bible.
Anon...

>>21272073
>reads stories that are as real as an 8 year olds day dreams
>MOOOOMMMMYY THEY'RE SAYING I SINNED
>>21272071
It is a staggering marvel of humane socialism that you can even read.
>>21272082
I stopped reading after the first sentence.
>>21272237
>Christianity has been used as a depolitizing
Protestants are as malleable as water.
>>21272296
Your prose reads like someone who hasn't yet worked up the courage to molest a child. Find Christ.
>>21272422
>dont impose it on me
No. Everything you believe that is at odds with the Roman Catholic Church is wrong, makes you less intelligent, and puts your soul and everyone else's around you, at risk.
>>21272439
Memes imitate people not bacteria you absolute midwit. St. John Henry Newman destroyed this Dawkin's misanthropy in the late 1800s in the Development of Christian Doctrine.

god hates tripfags

>>21272506
Somehow you managed to, through shear idiocy, translate raw egomania into English.
>>21272508
>And yet you use a computer designed by atheists. Curious.
Science is a Roman Catholic discipline. Cope harder.
>>21272566
Nice man! Not believing in deities would only get you shunned in every culture ever but I'm glad your Rick and Morty tier theology is comforting.
>>21272685
>if i am not strong then God no gave me the choco milk
Subhuman ego driven self loving drudgery masquerading as masculinity is perhaps my least favorite form of self-deception.
>>21273048
>>21273029
>religion is a mechanism of control
Control in what fashion? You do not understand, simply, that the clause of non-violence is not the definitive format of sociatal control but rather the form of life and all religions demand, and alternative, forms of life. To say that it is a tool of the elites is not only offensive to human history but to common sense. China is the best country in the world to be an elite - why? No Roman Catholics.
>>21273055
Great analysis! Profoundly identified the major dogmas, doctrines, and beliefs of Christianity and dismantled. Oh wait, you just drew a pastiche of pseudo-pyschology to create a blase cause and effect diagram so you can go off and ascribe all religiosity to just being aeffect of your geniusly identified cause.

>>21273629
enjoying your freedom of speech and from persecution, formally recognized by protestants and freemasons? thankfully they paved the way for a world where you can rant on your street corner all you want, and nothing will happen, because there are more pressing matters

>>21273629
Do care to prove any of your claims whatsoever or are you an armchair schizophrenic?

>>21271934
To answer OP's question, it's because /lit/ is a vacuum-sealed truth machine and Jesus Christ's Gospel, and its resultant Holy Spirit, speaks with Authority and Power. This is not only a theological statement but a categorical fact - in the most proper sense in an anonynous free for all Christ's Gospel will win because it is universal, it is the it that is more me than me within all of us, and infallible. Over time, with moderately well-written arguments, the Gospel, its document, and its Church become self-evident because the soul cannot hide one's self in its corresponding prose and the evident confusion, lack-luster insight, and general self-indulgent nature of the prose from all dissenters becomes painfully obvious. They can disagree but that it is their only refuge. They can dislike it but that is their only pleasure. Jesus is LORD.

>>21273677
This is highest compliment have ever received.
>>21273676
Freedom of speech is not relevant.

>>21273705
>in an anonynous free for all Christ's Gospel will win because it is universal
I'm sure it's irrelevant outside of western language forums

>>21273745
The fire speaks in your mother's tongue. Everyone is Catholic at the end of time.

>>21271934
Christians generally read more than anyone, save Jewish people; not necessarily /lit/ type reads, but nonetheless, being readers, we end up here.

Besides, bro, we just want the best for you.

>>21271958
We're not calling you 15 for, "calling us out," you just actually sound like a kid anon, even just reading your one post.

>>21273777
Blessed trips of Truth.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9764987/MyPillow-CEO-Mike-Lindell-Michael-Flynn-pose-bizarre-path-Trump-diagram.html

aka, 2016

Jordan Peterson's legacy

>>21273719
>>21273749
It really is schizo kino. Completely unconcerned with any level of a mutually communicable reality. I appreciate your performance.

>>21273811
pretty much

>>21273833
if this isn't actual schizophrenic behavior, then idk anymore

>>21273600
>Somehow you managed to, through shear idiocy, translate raw egomania into English.
+
>>21273600
>Your prose reads like someone who hasn't yet worked up the courage to molest a child. Find Christ.
Nice to see the only discourse that ever comes from the brain of the christcuck is envy-based verbal abuse based upon its own intellectual and character failings projected outwards, which always appear first of all in the character and actions of his own church members.

The rest of this is...
>Science is a Roman Catholic discipline.
profoundly schizophrenic in its level of reality-denial

>Subhuman ego driven self loving drudgery masquerading as masculinity is perhaps my least favorite form of self-deception.
personally revealing as to personal character

>You do not understand, simply, that the clause of non-violence is not the definitive format of sociatal control but rather the form of life and all religions demand, and alternative, forms of life.
avant garde in its fumbling of the english language and disregard for sequential evidenced-based reasoning

>Everything you believe that is at odds with the Roman Catholic Church is wrong, makes you less intelligent, and puts your soul and everyone else's around you, at risk.
death penalty worthy.


I can't be bothered with the rest. Nice to meet you, Archbishop Christcuck. Good to know that some viceful animal is ever-ready to make all Christians look bad and evil, as if we could ever be allowed to forget that this has been the character of your sort since the very beginning.

>>21271934
ikr? shit is so NOT bussin. like you finna tell me you need some imaginary nigga tell you how to live yo life? smdh

>>21273600
> the courage to molest a child.

"I'm going to be a Catholic, and accuse other people of doing what my organization has been infamous for doing for over eighty years. I am on the side of God, by the way."

you cannot change the mind of someone so thoroughly delusional they believe in things they cannot see, feel, hear, and feel. it is a lost cause.

please top wasting time

>>21273894
>He says, not having seen a single black hole or deep sea creature with his own eyes.
>inb4 "that's different, because.... IT JUST IS OKAY"

>>21273908
We have such sights to show (You)

>>21273894
"let us convince even one such as this (even the most depraved),"
Marcus Fabius,
Institutes of Oratory

"may those ['former'-christians] who, after being freed from [the self-defeating errors of] those by-ways [which had led them to nothing but enmity toward their fellow-man], rejoice [at having been] snatched from a grave illness,"
Galerius Valerius Maximinus

"you thought I was joking when I said I'd come back and crucify you all, didn't you?"
Julius Caesar, in paraphrasis

1. /lit/ loves to talk about books they've never read
2. The holy bible is legitimately one of the greatest books of all time, whether you take it as gospel or fiction.

>>21273888
What.

>>21271955
This unironically

>>21273958
>legitimately one of the greatest books
It's really not, it's a literal collection of the ravings of 1st Century Jews; stuffed together with a ton of contradictions that nobody noticed or cared about until lately, which depict God as a monster and declare the Jews to be the Chosen Master Race. This from a culture who achieved no advancements by the standards of other societies, and it also advocates genital mutilation of ones own sons.

It belongs in a bonfire or museum of "the horrors of primitive superstitions", labelled clearly so as to prevent the most simple-minded of homeless people from mistaking any of it as being non-fiction.

>>21273975
The whole new testament is jews losing God's favor and being called snakes.
The jews even want to put antisemitism warnings in there.

>>21273975
Christianity is Greek.

The most relevant part of the bible is the New Testament, wherein it spends several books explaining just how not-Jewish it is.

Although the story begins with Semitic mythologies, its essence and conclusions are fundamentally Greek.

The climax of this story is the life and death of a Semitic man, Jesus, who in an awesome display of neo-Platonic stoicism, wrestles with His ancestral faith, the laws of the state, and ultimately pursues His own death in the name of what He believed, much like Socrates before him.

When Socrates challenged the state and sacrificed himself centuries prior, we were left with the question: "But was it Good?".

Three days after Christ was murdered, we finally got our answer.

>>21271947
Theism is fine. Bible fagging is something different - like pretending its the word of God and taking whatever appeals to you of it literally. A lot of dogmatic bible stuff pollutes genuine discussions about theism.

>>21274153
Hellenized jews living in Greece in the 1st century AD are not Greeks. Christianity is not Greek. That's like saying AIPAC is American.

>>21273975
Even Nietzsche admitted the bible was the greatest German book ever lol

> For there is no shortage of reasons why it's precisely the German who rarely, and almost always too late, achieves a proficiency in speaking. It is appropriate therefore that the masterwork of German prose is the masterwork of its greatest preacher: up to this point, the Bible has been the best German book. In comparison with Luther's Bible, almost everything else is mere "literature" - something that did not grow in Germany and hence also did not grow and does not grow into German hearts, as the Bible has.

>>21272612
team work is inherently masculine. you have been brainwashed into thinking a man walks alone.

>>21274153
>>21274145
The Romanized Greeks 'rationalized' it this way, centuries later. But it really has nothing for a person who isn't Jewish in the first place; both Jesus and Paul are Jews preaching a kind of secularism, to put it that way, where the primitive superstitions and organized theocracy of the Judeans is done away with and the evils of Abramism is put behind them (genital mutilation, dictatorship by priests, believing in an evil god etc. etc.), "pay no heed to jewish fables," paul, titus 1:16 or 21, this is fair for a Jew but is completely meaningless to a person who isn't already indoctrinated into all the errors of that theology and forced to live under a theocracy.

This is what it was in the first place, prior to the so-called 'gentiles' becoming conversos - however or whenever that even actually happened in the first place.

> snakes.
Jesus is talking to Priests. He is laying waste to a Religious Building. There's far more in favor of this than that 'the Jews' (of whom Jesus and all his followers and all the christians were) were being blamed or attacked in some cosmic way 'by' Jesus. I mean, he beats up Priests personally (ha) but another argument is that the Pilate event is supposed to be read as an invective against ever bringing democratic rule to barbarians. But whichever.

>The most relevant part of the bible is the New Testament, wherein it spends several books explaining just how not-Jewish it is.
lol i know, right?


Okay, this,
>Although the story begins with Semitic mythologies, its essence and conclusions are
..are. entirely alien. There's nothing comparable to the polytheism (of which there turned out to be a universal global shared heritage) of most peoples of the world in the insanity and evil character ascribed to "literally God" in the abramic cults; it is Satanic, and that is entirely why, I think, Men like Jesus and Paul were moved to act against it in the very first place.

i.e. you cannot entertain a love for any of the jewish fables,
>Semitic mythologies, its essence and conclusions are fundamentally Greek.
and really reconcile it with Jesus or Paul. It is 'reformed Judaism' with an anti-clerical stance, being preached to Jews in an era of multiple bloody Jewish rebellions, long before Jesus was born, and which says, to Jews, to "honor and obey the Romans", stop doing these evil cult things and to abandon the rule of priests.


Now..... for, next, random greeks to have picked this up and invented priests and taken the OT as 'literal instruction FOR THEM' is, in lieu of all of this, a fucking embarrassing nonsense which belongs putting away in a drawer and forgotten about.

>>21274153
>>21273975
ed.


(the Roman soldier said) I am under the authority of my superior officers, and I have authority over my soldiers. I only need to say, ‘Go,’ and they go, or ‘Come,’ and they come. And if I say to my slaves, ‘Do this,’ they do it.”
When Jesus heard this, he was amazed. Turning to those who were following him, he said, “I tell you the truth, I haven’t seen faith like this in all Israel!

>>21274210
>the bible was the greatest German book ever
....and you wonder why you lost two consecutive wars against a race of Men who eat jellied-eels and squat up and down puffing on tobacco pipes.

>>21274153
You know what, give me an icon of Christ Priest-Beater and I'll put a coin in the collection box, Patriarch.

>>21274263
The post religious world was promised to have flying cars and plenty.
What we got was a crisis of meaning, unlimited genders, white guilt, and hedonism.

>>21272902
>A little triggered there, are we?
, he lisped.

>>21274271
It’s also the greatest English book as Churchill himself admitted. Check out King James Bible.

Hitler hated the bible on the other hand, which probably explains why he lost.

>>21274210
the lutheran bible was proto-responsible in some ways for unifying germany due to luther's decision to combine multiple regional dialects into a mutually intelligible phonetic system.

>>21272319
> which tells them that doing anything in the world is evil or irrelevant

What are you talking about? Christians today and throughout history have been one of the least nihilistic people in the world.

> Christians ranked as the second most educated religious group (after Jews) around in the world with an average of 9.3 years of schooling.[6] Christians were found to have the second highest number of graduate and post-graduate degrees per capita while in absolute numbers ranked in the first place (220 million).[6] According to the study, Christians in North America, Europe, Middle East, North Africa and Asia-Pacific regions are highly educated since many of the world universities were built by the historic Christian churches.

> Muslims and Hindus have the lowest average levels of higher education than any other major religious group, with only 8% and 10% respectively have graduate and post-graduate degrees.[6]

> The Israel Central Bureau of Statistics noted that when taking into account the data recorded over the years, Christian Arabs fared the best in terms of education in comparison to any other group receiving an education in Israel.[8] In 2016 Christian Arabs had the highest rates of success at matriculation examinations, namely 73.9%, both in comparison to Muslim and Druze Israelis (41% and 51.9% respectively), and to the students from the different branches of the Hebrew (majority Jewish) education system considered as one group (55.1%)

>>21274350
>>21274210
So it's both an English book and a German book. That's nice.

You kind of remind me of the whacky Muslims who, child-minded, say things like this of their fanfic with blurry eyes and think it doesn't make them look gullible and demented.

Neetch Churchill Hitler, its actually like you're going through a list of "which race is this person" until you find one that you think I'll agree with, this is very insulting to my intelligence.

>>21274381
Hitler obviously lost cause he didn’t posses the victorious Christian spirit. If Hitler was a Christian in spirit, he would have very likely won the war.

>>21271934
Because this site is a Jewish honeypot.

>>21274376
>the least nihilistic people
MUH FACTOIDTH
No, christcuck.

It's easy to demonstrate the sick bent to the average christian by being on this place; the christian is the first to begin verbal abuse, the first to gas-light, the first to disrupt any conversation; it's a constant here - probably I've experienced, including elsewhere, 10,000 sociopaths - the most evil people outside of a prison - who identify as proud Catholics; and they're always into neo nazism (usually former nazis) and when we talk about psychiatry or anything to do with the church they tell me that I'm a Jew and that "anything bad" is a jewish conspiracy against them.

and so on and so on and so on.

>>21274399
The war was won by the USSR, I don't think they possessed a Christian spirit.

>>21272734
This. Tradcath larpers are just under the umbrella of the bigger issue

>>21274376
ed.
incidentally I work in mental health treatment and recognize all the signs of their disorders. There's literally no other group I've ever encountered who has embodied such hubris; being the worst people around whilst demanding they be called holy and pious.

This is a brainwashed rabble operating in a state of dissonance, not least in part instilled in their via that religion of theirs.

>>21274428
They were communist so they definitely did posses some of the Christian spirit, which is why they won.

>>21274437
Lmao

>>21274428
Good point Stalin-anon,

also,
>>21274399
>If Hitler was a Christian in spirit, he would have very likely won the war.
You are disgusting and belong in some sort of industrial meat grinding machine.

>>21272296
>most diehard atheists are very well-read in the various religions
lol. Lmao, even.

>>21274419

Nice try. Christians can’t be Nazis. Nazis don’t posses the Christian spirit.

>>21274303
you're still going into the meat machine, but before you do,
>What we got was a crisis of meaning, unlimited genders, white guilt, and hedonism.
all of these camefrom abramic positions in the first place; white guilt is just original sin .2, for example, and 'hedonism' comes from people being babies and denying heterosexuality, as the church did, until going mad and raping a nun or a child.

also the church were making eunuchs well into 1900s, fyi, on genders.

>>21274456
China had eunuchs until the 20th century. It doesn’t mean they were trans people, genius.

>>21274451
>nu uh no neo nazi can't be a christian
Well if you're denying the reality of the culture of todays young and aging white american then you're definitely going into the meat grinder.

>Nazis don’t posses the Christian spirit.
look, you're a cute shabbas goy, goy, but you're kind of beneath me to be talking to.

My advise would be a rope around the neck if you really believe you're going to be rewarded when you die or talking to me like this.

>>21274469
uh.. 'trans' 'people'? were talking about gelding children and the penchant of the mentally sick to do such things. If you want to be inclusive and claim this as a win for the 'tranny' team, go right ahead, I didn't.

>>21274456
> the church were making eunuchs

You do realise it wasn’t literally the church itself who castrated the Castrato, right? The church employed Castrato for music, but didn’t personally have them castrated.

>>21274491
I am certain Michael Jackson was fucked with so his voice didn't change.

>>21274469
>women can't sing in the sistine chapel, that's heretical
>we'll chop off the penises of little boys to fill the soprano role instead

>>21274486
I’m saying eunuchs aren’t exactly trans people. Most of them didn’t dress up as women and then claim they are literally women. In fact if you want a culture most similar to that of modern transgender people, you can find it in Hinduism called Hijra, which the British tried to suppress in colonial times.

>>21274510
Like I said, the Castrato weren’t only for church. They were used for operas. The church employed them, but didn’t castrate them. They tried to have them banned in the 18th century, but they were too popular among the public.

As for castrating boys, it was a common practise for slavery across the world. Don’t know why you’re singling out the Church when the biggest critics of Castrato were other Christians like the Protestants. Castrato was a common Protestants scare mongering tactic. There’s even a whole novel about it written by a Protestant.

>>21274557
yet it took an edict from the pope for its cessation. whatever you have to do man, keep justifying mutilation of prepubescent boys by your organization.

>>21274376
>found to have the second highest number of graduate and post-graduate degrees per capita while in absolute numbers ranked in the first place
Higher education level always means more atheism. Those people are only "religious" on paper. Like how anyone who wants to get elected president has to come up with a church he belongs to. The "uneducated" Hindus and Muslims you mention, I don't think anyone could dispute, are more religiously observant than educated Western Christians

>>21272612
>grotesquely effeminate
>imma strong independent man who don't need no God

lol
lmao even

>>21274570
And the church helped to ban slavery so it banned the most common way that people were castrated in the past, so you keep coping. The Romans, Muslims, Chinese all castrated young boys so I guess that makes them trannies

I also don’t see you criticising them. You’re just a hypocrite.

>>21274607
>strong independent man who don't need no God
this but unironically, no need to sell your soul to some volcano demon

>>21272056
dont remind me

>>21274618
>but they did it too
you don't seem to be getting the point here. we're talking about you. all you can talk about is the catholic church this whole time, all the sudden you want to change the subject when we mention the catholic penchant for nutless prepubescent boy choirs, which is very unique to roman catholicism, mind you, and a tradition of over 300 years. how do we know you aren't aiming to restore the practice?

>>21274620
The most masculine men in history have been religious. You have the same worldview as a black woman

>>21274491
>the Castrato
> The church employed Castrato for music, b
lol actually the history will make you sick if you don't know about it, and why would you?

Universally, gelded children (i.e. gelded and sold) (i.e. where the practice wasn't violently put-down) were raised to be kind of "living machines" to be single-minded servants. The notion was that without the toxic masculinity that a child would be malleable and easily ordered around, but in reality many simply went mad as they aged; gathering reputations as being corrupt government sorts and slaves to every other of their lusts as they were filling the void of the primary lust. Anyway the Church, starkly, endorsed this practice fairly early on...... but inherited it, technically speaking, and anyway in Europe, from the Greek-Anatolian cult of Attis where the 'ghastly priests with filthy fingernails' were ritually castrated to become 'proper priests'.

It is perhaps the worst kind of slavery ever devised, carried out against child, etc. etc. the worst thing, however, is that the Catholic Church was still doing this in the 1900's. If it was literally to "make people sing better" then it deserves so much punishment as it is perhaps the most petty reason to do such a thing to another human being, on the part of a depraved celibate priest.

>>21274513
Oh I getcha, yeah I suppose the real point was that the Christians were proclaiming "there is no Man nor Woman, all are one in [insert ideology here]". In addition to the eunuchry thing.

Also, if you read Paul in Malta, he accuses many of his followers of being cross-dressers and male prostitutes. Which is just psychologically funny in this context.

"abusers of themselves with men! such were ye! then ye had a bath (and were saved),"
that line

pauls funny.

>>21274638
You’re the one who brought it up, idiot. You were literally suggesting that trans people came from Castrato. I then pointed out that many cultures practised castration of young boys, but does that mean those cultures were pro-trans?

> To the classical world eunuchs were figures who haunted the courts of oriental monarchs. The Persian king employed them prominently as guardians of his harem and loyal protectors of his throne, even exacting boys for castration as tribute from some subject peoples (Hdt. 3. 92). The disgust expressed by Classical authors at the alien customs of Persia was tempered by an acknowledgement of the trustworthiness which the eunuchs displayed to their royal masters (Hdt. 8. 105; Xen. Cyr. 7. 5. 58 ff.).By the time of Augustus eunuchs had begun to enter the households of some leading Romans, notably imperial associates like *Maecenas (Sen. Ep. 114. 6) and *Sejanus (Plin. HN 7. 129). Later the praetorian prefect of *Septimius Severus had a hundred Roman citizens castrated to provide eunuch attendants for his daughter (Cass. Dio 75. 14). The presence of eunuchs around prominent courtiers reflected the trend set by emperors themselves: *Claudius already had a favourite eunuch (Posides) among his freedmen (Suet.)

Was supposed to say they give you some religion knowledge (t.atheist in non-western country) but then realize I learnt nothing from this board and knew much more stuff from reading the damn thing itself (decent but doesn't deserve all its hype if you ask me, all because of how much it is referenced rather than the work itself is any good). /lit/ spam shit all the time anyway, I remember there was a time they clogged the board with Deleuze shits. Maybe just enjoy it while it last.

>>21274659
>obsessed with appearing masculine for costume purposes
>larping as religious fundamentalist
You are literally homosexual

>>21274691
Go off queen.

>>21274659
>the manly man, muh manly men
Only a waifish boy would say this.

>>21274513
You just reminded me,
>In fact if you want a culture most similar to that of modern transgender people, you can find it in
Ancient Athens during the Roman period, they were called 'Greek Men'. ha

>>21273975
bruh, you have to be 18 to post here

>>21271934
>why is /lit flooded with bible fags?
most people here are election tourists, and most election tourists are unironical christians

>>21274682
>more squirming
can you have even a shred of accountability for the thing you've been espousing the entire thread? i guess it's back to the drawing board for this topic eh, irl you would have already been laughed out of the room, your voice would be cracking and everything

>>21274682
>Castrato
You're talking to two people, or more, evidently. You replied to me with that first, and I replied here: >>21274676

And no, I didn't even bring that up. Also nobody cares about the pro-trans politics of you boring lower middle class americans; you christcuck point 2 dogmatists, you.

>>21274703
>bruh, you have to be 18 to post here
sounds like you're shit out of luck for your childgrooming exercises today then, muh catheter man.

>>21274247
There's no teamwork with Christ, it's submission. What the fuck are you talking about?

Not sure where either of you are going with this discourse, but here's some food for thought—gender reassignment surgery is the new holy stigmata, and anyone who undergoes it is celebrated by the "church."

>>21274682
"VERBALLY AFFIRM MY NON-SCIENCE BASED NON-EVIDENCED BASED FANTASY BELIEFS - OR I'LL CALL YOU A NON-BELIEVER AND TRY TO HARM YOU"
every one of this type for 2,000 years

the ideology is interchangeable, the actions are the same.

>>21274659
Black women are the most religious demographic in America today, retard.

>>21274676
> Oh I getcha, yeah I suppose the real point was that the Christians were proclaiming "there is no Man nor Woman, all are one in [insert ideology here]". In addition to the eunuchry thing.

Okay but where did Christians in the past 2000 years practise actual transgenderism as we now know it? There’s literally more evidence of other cultures practicing it like Hinduism.

Yeah and Paul also condemns effeminacy (Malakos) and then snidely tells those who preach circumcision to chop off the rest of their dick, suggesting he didn’t approve of either.

>>21274740
Can i get uh amen? Praise the lawd

>>21274730
>the "church."
and Circei led travelers into her hut whereupon she made them into pigs and beasts, no longer possessed of the reason of Men.

>>21274742
>where
Don't all the priests and monks like to play dress up?

>>21274742
>Yeah and Paul also condemns effeminacy (Malakos) and then snidely tells those who preach circumcision to chop off the rest of their dick,
That's what I mean, he's hilarious. I used to think St Pauls should be torn down when I was younger because of how bad he was, but .... eh ... he's pretty funny. I guess.

>Okay but where did Christians in the past 2000 years practise actual transgenderism as we now know it?
>Okay but where did
> literally
Literally nobody cares. BUT you know what, personally, I see a lot of BPD types amongst the Christians so I'm pretty sure they're cross-dressing as a kink behind closed doors 24/7.

so off topic though

>>21274721
> Also nobody cares about the pro-trans politics of you boring lower middle class americans

I’m not American. I don’t care about trans people. It’s you guys who are obsessed with them and always seem to bring them up.

>>21274735
The point being? You can say that for all religions throughout history as they all believe in superstitious stuff that isn’t backed by science.

>>21274730
Agreed. Some comparison might also be drawn between the theatre's role (and perhaps film) in replacing some of the church's function -- although of course the Church is larger and more diffuse than that:
https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2022/10/06/shakespeares-globe-theatre-trans-people-are-sacred-we-are-the-divine-n1635103

>>21274770
>implying there's any degree of separation between being a hardline catholic and having q talking points
what an interesting structure your posts have though. very well thought out, though not without holes. use ad hominem as covering fire while you move to your next topic. very cool

>>21274774
Certainly television and cinema are further reaching than theater—and more repetitive too. If anything replaced—to isolate a particular aspect of the church—the mass as a weekly serial whose function lies in imparting a worldview and specific values, it would be television programming. And this replacement was obvious to religious people at the time and so they pushed for a production code to govern what made it to the screen.

>>21271934
>like for real
zoomer moment

>>21274770
>You can say that for all religions throughout history
SNORT remind me to give you a lecture on what the function of a Municipal God is sometime, barbarian scum. How dare you compare even for an instant-

>I’m not American. I don’t care about trans people. It’s you guys who are obsessed with them and always seem to bring them up.
Okay thanks for derailing the thread by going onto a tangent about Castrato for no fucking reason then. You're welcome for the history lesson on the entire subject, as well. I find it one of the most disgusting and miserable topics to have to recollect. So I'm glad to know you made me go into for what turned out to be no fucking reason.

Maybe I'll make your young relatives "sing better" one day you fucking farm animal-


>>21274777
lolz

>>21274774
Oh don't forget the pulpit. That's the News Desk, btw.

>>21274774
Funny as the Puritan Christians absolutely hated the theatre because of men dressing as women

> By the time of Charles I the transvestite controversy appears to have died down-at least the pamphlet polemic was muted-but it was revived in 1633 by a new spate of puritan attacks on the theatre. William Prynne poured scorn on men who would "adulterate, emasculate, metamorphose, and debase their noble sex" by acting womanish parts or putting on female costume. Like Gosson and Stubbes before him, Prynne cited Deut. 22:5 to prove that "God himself doth expressly inhibit men to put on woman's apparel, because it is an abomination to him." Even someone "who puts on a woman's raiment but to act a part, though it be but once, is doubtless a putter on of woman's apparel . . . and so a grand delinquent against God." The effect of such abominable behavior-inevitably in Prynne's view-was to shame nature by making men monstrous and effeminate and to unleash the sins of lustfulness, sodomy and self-pollution.

There’s even a 17th century puppet show making fun of puritans for being against cross-dressing. It’s truly hilarious, and ends up with a Puritan preacher (Zeal-of-the-Land Busy) who attacks the theatre as lascivious, getting in a debate with a puppet. A wicked satire on Puritans. A quote for the play:

> Busy: "Yes, and my maine argument against you, is, that you are an abomination: for the Male, among you, putteth on the apparell of the Female, and the Female of the Male.
...
> Puppet: "It is your old stale argument against the Players, but it will not hold against the Puppets; for we have neyther Male nor Female amongst us. And that thou may'st see!"

Your obsession with trannies in the theatre is Puritanical Christian if anything

>>21274805
I’m not the one who brought up the Castrato, idiot. I didn’t derail anything.

>>21272296
>That's precarious, anon, since most diehard atheists are very well-read in the various religions.
It's funny to me that someone out there actually thinks this. I know you don't, but someone does.

>>21274815
>across all cultures and religions, people who don't like weird pedophiles mutilating children tend to be in favor of strict gender/sex roles
Wow, who could have thought!

>>21274856
it's as if the whole thread never occurred. might as well talk to AI

>>21274730
> reassignment surgery is the new holy stigmata

Not really. Trans do what they do for their own happiness and pleasure. They don’t believe they are punishing themselves. They believed they are celebrating their true self. For trans people, not undergoing transition would be “holy stigmata” for them. That would be actual punishment and suffering for them in their minds.

>>21274770
>you boring lower middle class americans
Shalom, rabbi, how are you preparing for Hanukkah?

>>21274742
The Skoptsy, various Gnostic sects, literally every other Church Father if literally every Church Father is to be believed, and various monastic Saint cults. More broadly, a Catholic monk/nun/clergymen is a eunuch. They aren't physically castrated, but spiritually, they are a eunuch.

Now having said that, much like how you can find Gnostic parallels with Liberalism, or Buddhist parallels within certain Christian sects, this is a case of convergent evolution. By definition, no one "was Transgender" before Jewish psychologists invented it in the early 1900s. But, again, through convergent evolution, if you start out with a certain set of basic assumptions, the product will be similar to another religious tradition adopting those basic assumptions.

For example, if you believe that souls are genderless and pure, and that sexuality is inherently evil, you're going to setup the groundwork for weird cults where castration becomes a high-status symbol (in part because it forces the castrated to commit to the cause). Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, whatever, these basic premises (pure genderless soul, sexuality bad, body bad) result in the same outcomes.

>>21274856
Who is mutilating children? Children are not permitted sex reassignment surgery.

Most trans are gay anyway and I honestly don’t care about gay men chopping off their dick

>>21274865
>Trans do what they do for their own happiness and pleasure. They don’t believe they are punishing themselves
but you'll go to heaven if you join the masochistic conquest fantasy where we love a man who looks suspiciously like the inspiration for il principe and we prefer the company mutilated boys to women until the pope tells us to stop

>>21274876
>if you believe that souls are genderless and pure, and that sexuality is inherently evil
its not belief anon, where do you think these things come from and how they keep appearing? humans are wired to feel uncomfortable with their own bodies and sexuality. a really stupid animal

>>21274896
>humans are wired to feel uncomfortable with their own bodies and sexuality
The vast majority of people do not feel this way. Have you thought about cutting out porn and exercising?

>>21274876
> literally every other Church Father if literally every Church Father is to be believed

You mean like the church father Clement of Alexander who spent his time complaining about men shaving and becoming effeminate

> such an extent, then, has luxury advanced, that not only are the female sex deranged about this frivolous pursuit, but men also are infected with the disease.[1] For not being free of the love of finery, they are not in health; but inclining to voluptuousness, they become effeminate, cutting their hair in an ungentlemanlike and meretricious way, clothed in fine and transparent garments, chewing mastich,[2] smelling of l perfume.[3] What can one say on seeing them? Like one who judges people by their foreheads, he will divine them to be adulterers and effeminate, addicted to both kinds of venery, haters of hair, destitute of hair, detesting the bloom of manliness, and adorning their locks like women….But for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, to arrange his hair at the looking-glass, to shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them, how womanly! And, in truth, unless you saw them naked, you would suppose them to be women.

> But life has reached this pitch of licentiousness through the wantonness of wickedness, and lasciviousness is diffused over the cities, having become law. Beside them women stand in the stews, offering their own flesh for hire for lewd pleasure, and boys, taught to deny their sex, act the part of women.

> Luxury has deranged all things; it has disgraced man. A luxurious niceness seeks everything, attempts everything, forces everything, coerces nature. Men play the part of women, and women that of men, contrary to nature; women are at once wives and husbands: no passage is closed against libidinousness; and their promiscuous lechery is a public institution, and luxury is domesticated…

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/clem-ped-3-3.asp

>>21274899
>The vast majority of people do not feel this way

wow you live under a rock or are horrificly delusional. deoderant, hair cutting, manscaping, obsessive bathing behavior, angst and frustration at their own bodies and sexuality, etc. etc. unable to talk about sex and dating directly.

you're blind anon.

>>21274907
I was more so referring to the fact that every Church Father accuses every other Church Father of being a satan worshiping cannibal eunuch as a joke, but given how many of the Galli converted to Christianity, combined with the anti-sexuality views of the Church, I have to imagine that the practice continued in secret, but yeah sure, that works.

>>21274908
Trannies are less than 1% of the US population despite being the object of veneration of the State Cult, so yes, by definition the vast majority of people do not feel this way. No, hygiene is not the same as cutting your penis off and taking immunosuppressants so as to keep an open wound from healing. In fact, given that you are trying to keep an injury dirty, it's literally the opposite.

And you didn't answer the question: have you tried taking up exercise and cutting out, or at least even reducing, your porn consumption? Maybe you would feel better about yourself if you took better care of yourself.

>>21274917
prostrate

>>21274908
your desire to be slovenly and a transexual person's desire to be the opposite gender are the same thing to you?

>>21274876
> if you believe that souls are genderless and pure, and that sexuality is inherently evil,

I’m not sure about other religions but the body is connected to the soul in Christianity. That’s why when the resurrection happens, your body will also resurrect.

> Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies. - 1 Corinthians 6:19-20,

>>21274836
It's odd to me that you'd pretend it wasn't true, given as how we 'all know' that any former Christian or Muslim or Lucky-Dip variant is 'former' because they've actually read the bloody book and chosen not to ignore the parts that speak nonsense.

>>21274815
>> Puppet: "It is your old stale argument against the Players, but it will not hold against the Puppets; for we have neyther Male nor Female amongst us. And that thou may'st see!"
I always liked puppets.

>>21274833
>Castrato
You keep using this word.. they're 'eunuchs', anon. A castra-to is a diminutive person who inhabits in a castles jail - possibly jail-keeper (lat. it. castra, castra+to, castra+do), or something close to this anyway. The PR job about "singing" made no sense when they popularized it, if you insist to keep speaking about it.

>>21274917
> but given how many of the Galli converted to Christianity

Never have I read this anywhere. I searched it up and nothing comes up. Why are you making shit up? There was no mass conversion of Galli to Christianity noted by anyone. Most of it is just church fathers seething against Galli as a religion.

If anything, it was the pagan emperor Julian who really liked Galli more than anyone before him did.

> The cult of Phrygian Cybele the Mother of the Gods, known to the Latin world as the Great Mother, Magna Mater, was the first foreign religion adopted by the Romans. In the Fifth Oration, which is, like the Fourth, a hymn, Julian describes the entrance of the Goddess into Italy in the third century b.c. In Greece she had been received long before, but the more civilised Hellenes had not welcomed, as did the Romans, the more barbarous features of the cult, the mutilated priests, the Galli, and the worship of Attis. They preferred the less emotional cult of the Syrian Adonis. In Athens the Mother of the Gods was early identified with Gaia the Earth Mother, and the two became inextricably confused. But Julian, in this more Roman than Greek, does not shrink from the Oriental conception of Cybele as the lover of Attis, attended by eunuch priests, or the frenzy of renunciation described by Catullus. Julian refers to the castration and emasculation of the priests as “that holy and inexpressible harvest.”

>>21274940
>I’m not sure about other religions but the body is connected to the soul in Christianity. That’s why when the resurrection happens, your body will also resurrect.
Yes, but from the very beginning Christians have been trying to get away from that view. Even in the early Church, this was a debate. Presumably there are other views that cause this slippery slope to be more a lower energy state. Something similar happened in Buddhism, where it became quite popular to argue that humans have a pure immaterial original true nature in spite of the whole "Sunyata" thing.

Abstracting this from the tranny subject, I think that this is an interesting thing that religions, cultures, ideologies, etc do, where they attempt to reach a state of lower energy (this does not mean static, but more stable), and the question is one of path dependency. It's like there's an energy well to get over, whether that's the path itself ("how do I argue for a pure true uncreated eternal nature AND Sunyata") or another view ("how do I get past bodily resurrection").

>>21274945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato
The term derives from usage in Latin, where the term "castratus" was used to refer to someone who was castrated. Its usage dates to around the 10th century.

>>21274960
anon there were no mass of the galli, they were an incredibly minor cult who got noted for being weirdos

they also werent the first foreign cult adopted by the romans lmfao stop quoting wikisource you pleb

>>21274961
I agree that many Christians (in the part and today) end up adopting a gnostic view of the body without it even realising it.

I remember listening to a podcast about Charles George Gordon, who was Protestant yet ended up adopting a gnostic view of the body. He’s an interesting study.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-rest-is-history/id1537788786?i=1000548766777

>>21274997
*past

>>21272728
>the notion of sectarian bickering over identical theological constructs and demanding verbal affirmation of 'belief' only came around when the swamp-monkeys of the frozen north decided to become Christians
lmao you are historically illiterate
wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

>>21275013
It goes back even further into Judaism too.

>>21274961
>The term derive
> 10th century.
i.. the components are older than that, ffs.

whatever, jail-keeper.

>>21275013
lol you waterbrained cretin, how does a link to "ARIANISM" refute anything I said or even address the points raised? You think I haven't already studied that? Stupid monkey.

here's a link to something random,
wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_Price
OWNED -_-

urgh all your points are just shit, I don't think you're an adult, I think you're a praxis-machine who mimics the habits it oversees in a blind fashion. that is to say sir you are a child

my wiki link is very apt in your case, small person


>>21275023
yeah, good point. I suppose it does in a way but...... the verbal affirmation thing isn't exactly the same as outright rape and genocide; it's a weirder thing that seems to be a constant ethnic trait of the monkey. Like, if you defeat someone in battle, you enslave them or kill them maybe, you don't set out to wage war and defeat them so they will say "i agree with your belief system about the notion of your religious characters", you know what i mean.. it's a weird kind of thing. I mean, the Jews raped and killed but they didn't seek at any point in time to 'convert' others,
you see the difference?

It does exist and it is subject to looked at.

>>21272537
>anything after OAD&D is legit
ngmi

>>21271955
What you just said is the religious equivalent of the image you posted.

>>21271934
Why is it filled with nigger dick sucking kikes like you?

>>21271934
innitency

year/translations

trichinosis chookie

>>21271964
But they don't even follow the basic doctrines of Christianity, why are they even larping.

>>21276076
as a reaction to "liberals". they don't actually give a shit, but "tradcaths" are extremely conservative, so they stand in opposition to liberals and therefore based.

it's actually extremely cringe. it's the chud version of "I'm not like all those other girls"

>>21271934
They like to play pretend.

>>21276076
>>21276130
They're almost the same as those people who fake mental disorders or wear a skirt one day; they've grown up and eventually (cos it took their thick skulls a while) figured out that they can just parrot the claims of the minority and shield themselves for a little bit from being pissed on by the state or their employers,
"muh religion"
'cept it doesn't actually work, unless they go really extreme and mutilate their genitals.

I used to listen to those podcasts once in a while; the clowny 'far-right' american nerds, and the path from neo nazi to larping catholic is one of the most common motifs.

As you'll notice by keyword scanning this page, or looking only a few posts above, >>21275642
>>>21271934 (OP)
>Why is it filled with nigger dick sucking kikes like you?
they're the same people, just wearing a different kind of womens clothing.


>>21275074
>It does exist and it is subject to looked at.
nota bene.

>>21276076
>>21276130
It's literally just Warhammer 40k. The Imperial Creed is a parody of Christianity, the Imperial Creed is based, therefore they are Christian to get lcose to that.

>>21271949
>>21272564
Every son should make himself a good investment for his parents. Daughters are guaranteed to be useless but sons are expected to do something worth being proud of. Can't you just be a good son and make your mother's life a little less miserable than it already is?

>>21276877
>Daughters are guaranteed to be useless

>>21276865
yet even this is a funny joke on them; takes about 60 seconds to learn that the Emperor was a secular rationalist who burned down churches and hated religion,

"conquer the chaotic parasite infesting your brain and retake it with an iron fist,"
"the gods need you and your pitiful unstable emotions to exist in the first place,"

The Man-Emperor of Mankind


I think, to be honest, it's not this but the word 'Roman' in 'Roman' Catholicism. Rome is the echo, in every real way, of the Great Times; and many people have used the name to borrow from its legacy over the centuries.

>>21272296
>That's precarious, anon, since most diehard atheists are very well-read in the various religions.
Kek'd
>>21274444
Checked.

>>21276913
>yet even this is a funny joke on them; takes about 60 seconds to learn that the Emperor was a secular rationalist who burned down churches and hated religion,
Also, this may prove another point: they latch onto things like that "muh image" without delving far into any of it, then they look stupid.

It's almost like this is a common habit or failure in logic on their part; a flaw in their general character type, I WONDER IF WE CAN THINK OF ANYMORE EXAMPLES OF THIS DYNAMIC OCCURRING SUCH AS THEIR RELIGION

>>21273167
lmao this guy doesn't get it at all

>>21273958
Bible isn't literature, you should read more books if you honestly think that

The Bible is the cornerstone of Western literature. I don't know why anyone would complain about it on a literature board.

>>21274469
Wouldn't it be hilarious if they were though? Zipperdicks

>>21277191
Buzz off

>>21272645
Christianity is an equally individualist religion.
You niggers just shit on everything and never take a hard stance unless it's to shit on someone else for the keks. You live in a perpetual state of Schadenfreude. What a niggerly creature you lot are

>>21277191
In that it exemplifies the cuckoldery to foreign weirdos that goes screechily denied by people with their fingers in their ears, sure. It was probably the first of, anyway, many cowboy jobs on the original cornerstones.

there is no heckin goderino

>>21271934
/lit/ is filled with passive anons who can’t better themselves so they use religion as an armor. They are lying and coping to themselves. Most are just incels who are undesirable but don’t want to or can’t admit it to themselves

>>21271934
Because you should anon.

>>21271958
You're clearly 15

>>21277826
thanks reddit, very nice!

>>21271934
Generally speaking, when you invest that much time into something it’s gonna become a part of your personality one way or another.

>>21274865
It's in both cases ideological body modification done in the name of truth and union with the divine form.